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Re: Renowned Evolutionist Turns Creationist And Christian by butterflyl1on: 7:38pm On Oct 11, 2017

ScienceWatch:
You right butterflyl1on, Science is a MAFIA gang. This professor is one of the rare brave souls that prefer truth above a career.

This brief extract from the OP reveal a very rare quality among hardened Atheists. This Atheist was creative and flexible in spite of the shackles of rigid scientific indoctrination. He broke free, He had conscience.

Dr. Richard Lumsden was professor of parasitology and cell biology at Tulane University. He served as dean of the graduate school, and published hundreds of scientific papers. He trained 30 PhDs. Thoroughly versed in biological sciences, both in knowledge and lab technique, including electron microscopy, he won the highest world award for parasitology. All through his career he believed Darwinian evolution was an established principle of science, and he took great glee in ridiculing Christian beliefs.

One day, he heard that Louisiana had passed a law requiring equal time for creation with evolution, and he was angry– how stupid, he thought, and how evil! He used the opportunity to launch into a tirade against creationism in class, and to give them his best eloquence in support of Darwinism. Little did he know he had a formidable opponent in class that day. No, not a silver-tongued orator to engage him in a battle of wits; that would have been too easy.

This time it was a gentle, polite, young female student.

This student went up to him after class and cheerfully exclaimed, “Great lecture, Doc! Say, I wonder if I could make an appointment with you; I have some questions about what you said, and just want to get my facts straight.”

Dr. Lumsden, flattered with this student’s positive approach, agreed on a time they could meet in his office. On the appointed day, the student thanked him for his time, and started in. She did not argue with anything he had said about evolution in class, but just began asking a series of questions:

1) “How did life arise? . . .
2) "Isn’t DNA too complex to form by chance?"
3) "Why are there gaps in the fossil record between major kinds?"
4) "What are the missing links between apes and man?”

She didn’t act judgmental or provocative; she just wanted to know.

Prof. Lumsden, unabashed, gave the standard evolutionary answers to the questions. But something about this interchange began making him very uneasy. He was prepared for a fight, but not for a gentle, honest set of questions. As he listened to himself spouting the typical evolutionary responses, he thought to himself, This does not make any sense. What I know about biology is contrary to what I’m saying. When the time came to go, the student picked up her books and smiled, “Thanks, Doc!” and left. On the outside,

Dr. Lumsden appeared confident; but on the inside, he was devastated. He knew that everything he had told this student was wrong.

IT IS VERY RARE TO MEET AN ATHEIST WITH A CONSCIENCE !


It took the honest simple questions from his own student to wake his conscience up. God can use anyone to set anyone straight!
Re: Renowned Evolutionist Turns Creationist And Christian by ScienceWatch: 8:00pm On Oct 11, 2017
butterflyl1on:



It took the honest simple questions from his own student to wake his conscience up. God can use anyone to set anyone straight!

Allow me to differ on this Sir. No one can set a Low-Level Atheist straight. Anyone that has studied the mind-set of Nairalands
Low-level Atheists know that they would have torn that young lady to shreds like hungry wolf at a kill.

If you dont believe it, I beg you to simply put those four simply questions to indoctrinated Low-Level unregistered Atheists.

1) “How did life arise? . . .
2) "Isn’t DNA too complex to form by chance?"
3) "Why are there gaps in the fossil record between major kinds?"
4) "What are the missing links between apes and man?”

The answers to those simple questions set a hardened, Genuine Atheist free, but it will drive a low-level Atheist insane.
Re: Renowned Evolutionist Turns Creationist And Christian by butterflyl1on: 8:03pm On Oct 11, 2017
ScienceWatch:
Allow me to differ on this Sir. No one can set a Low-Level Atheist straight. Anyone that has studied the mind-set of Nairalands
Low-level Atheists know that they would have torn that young lady to shreds like hungry wolf at a kill.

If you dont believe it, I beg you to simply put those four simply questions to indoctrinated Low-Level unregistered Atheists.

1) “How did life arise? . . .
2) "Isn’t DNA too complex to form by chance?"
3) "Why are there gaps in the fossil record between major kinds?"
4) "What are the missing links between apes and man?”

The answers to those simple questions set a hardened, Genuine Atheist free, but it will drive a low-level Atheist insane.


you have a point. the "low level" fledgling atheists would go full vitriol on you at those questions.
Re: Renowned Evolutionist Turns Creationist And Christian by analice107: 8:05pm On Oct 11, 2017
ScienceWatch:
Your question has been effectively answered a billion times in history, Dalaman.

A professor said to Greg, “I hear you won an award, how did you do that ?
Greg replied, “It is God that is doing everything for us sir.”
Professor, God ?
Greg, Yes sir
Prof, “Which God ?
Geg, He is in heaven,
Prof, can you see your God ?
Geg, No sir.
Prof, Can you touch your God
Greg, No sir.

Prof says angrily, Then there is no God !!!
Greg looks surprised by this s0-called intelligent mans opinion.
Prof then says that science has proven it, that anything you cant see or touch does not exist. Therefore you don’t have a God !!!! I am a Prof, I know things that you don’t.

Greg recovers and asks, Prof how do you know there is no God ?
Prof says, Common sense, I use my sense.
Grey asks, where is your sense ?
Prof says, It is up here, pointing to his head.
Grey asks, Can you see your sense ?
Prof says, No.
Greg asks, Can you touch your sense ?
Prof says, no.
Greg says, That means that your sense don’t exist, because according to science anything you cant see or touch does not exit. Therefore you don’t have any sense prof.
Re: Renowned Evolutionist Turns Creationist And Christian by analice107: 8:06pm On Oct 11, 2017
ScienceWatch:
Your question has been effectively answered a billion times in history, Dalaman.

A professor said to Greg, “I hear you won an award, how did you do that ?
Greg replied, “It is God that is doing everything for us sir.”
Professor, God ?
Greg, Yes sir
Prof, “Which God ?
Geg, He is in heaven,
Prof, can you see your God ?
Geg, No sir.
Prof, Can you touch your God
Greg, No sir.

Prof says angrily, Then there is no God !!!
Greg looks surprised by this s0-called intelligent mans opinion.
Prof then says that science has proven it, that anything you cant see or touch does not exist. Therefore you don’t have a God !!!! I am a Prof, I know things that you don’t.

Greg recovers and asks, Prof how do you know there is no God ?
Prof says, Common sense, I use my sense.
Grey asks, where is your sense ?
Prof says, It is up here, pointing to his head.
Grey asks, Can you see your sense ?
Prof says, No.
Greg asks, Can you touch your sense ?
Prof says, no.
Greg says, That means that your sense don’t exist, because according to science anything you cant see or touch does not exit. Therefore you don’t have any sense prof.
Wonderful, Just wonderful.
Re: Renowned Evolutionist Turns Creationist And Christian by ScienceWatch: 8:11pm On Oct 11, 2017
butterflyl1on:



you have a point. the "low level" fledgling atheists would go full vitriol on you at those questions.

Dont get me wrong Sir, at the same time I absolutely agree with your profound statement that," God can use anyone to set anyone straight!"

But Low-level (fledgling Atheists) are not "Anyone." By their own classification they are not created beings, but rather accidental, random offspring of two rouge planets that went out of orbit and crashed billions of yrs ago.
Re: Renowned Evolutionist Turns Creationist And Christian by butterflyl1on: 8:15pm On Oct 11, 2017
ScienceWatch:
Dont get me wrong Sir, at the same time I absolutely agree with your profound statement that," God can use anyone to set anyone straight!"

But Low-level (fledgling Atheists) are not "Anyone." By their own classification they are not created beings, but rather accidental, random offspring of two rouge planets that went out of orbit and crashed billions of yrs ago.

grin grin

You got that spot on.

They are a product of a primordial soup. cheesy

I wonder what the soup was eaten with.
Re: Renowned Evolutionist Turns Creationist And Christian by analice107: 8:20pm On Oct 11, 2017
ScienceWatch:
Allow me to differ on this Sir. No one can set a Low-Level Atheist straight. Anyone that has studied the mind-set of Nairalands
Low-level Atheists know that they would have torn that young lady to shreds like hungry wolf at a kill.

If you dont believe it, I beg you to simply put those four simply questions to indoctrinated Low-Level unregistered Atheists.

1) “How did life arise? . . .
2) "Isn’t DNA too complex to form by chance?"
3) "Why are there gaps in the fossil record between major kinds?"
4) "What are the missing links between apes and man?”

The answers to those simple questions set a hardened, Genuine Atheist free, but it will drive a low-level Atheist insane.
Very true.

These atheists are a mostly rebellious homeless kids claiming a life online. Offline they are nobodies.
Re: Renowned Evolutionist Turns Creationist And Christian by ScienceWatch: 8:35pm On Oct 11, 2017
butterflyl1on:



you have a point. the "low level" fledgling atheists would go full vitriol on you at those questions.

That young females easy question No 4 will be a no-brainer.

4) "What are the missing links between apes and man?”

Answer: Low-level Atheists.
Re: Renowned Evolutionist Turns Creationist And Christian by Ericsunday619: 8:40pm On Oct 11, 2017
ScienceWatch:
Allow me to differ on this Sir. No one can set a Low-Level Atheist straight. Anyone that has studied the mind-set of Nairalands
Low-level Atheists know that they would have torn that young lady to shreds like hungry wolf at a kill.

If you dont believe it, I beg you to simply put those four simply questions to indoctrinated Low-Level unregistered Atheists.

1) “How did life arise? . . .
2) "Isn’t DNA too complex to form by chance?"
3) "Why are there gaps in the fossil record between major kinds?"
4) "What are the missing links between apes and man?”

The answers to those simple questions set a hardened, Genuine Atheist free, but it will drive a low-level Atheist insane.
please stop calling great atheists like Richard Dawkins, seun, Charles Darwin and Harris low level people. What have you achieved in life?
Re: Renowned Evolutionist Turns Creationist And Christian by ScienceWatch: 8:43pm On Oct 11, 2017
analice107:

Very true.

These atheists are a mostly rebellious homeless kids claiming a life online. Offline they are nobodies.
Aaaaah, I see. Then lets find homes for them ?

Get their details, I know it could be a very long, long list but not be tolerated.
It does not matter if they are no-bodies, we understand that that is how they have defined themselves. They say that they are no beings that accidentally appeared on planet earth after two rouge out of orbit planets crashed billions of yrs ago.

They are homeless indeed ! Show mercy !
Re: Renowned Evolutionist Turns Creationist And Christian by analice107: 8:50pm On Oct 11, 2017
ScienceWatch:
Aaaaah, I see. Then lets find homes for them ?

Get their details, I know it could be a very long, long list but not be tolerated.
It does not matter if they are no-bodies, we understand that that is how they have defined themselves. They say that they are no beings that accidentally appeared on planet earth after two rouge out of orbit planets crashed billions of yrs ago.

They are homeless indeed ! Show mercy !
Give me a little more time, i'm putting things together to begin picking kids off the streets, i shall pick them all off the streets and give them a home. They need love and care, then they'll know that life is not so empty without a purpose.

The absence of a Father figure in their lives is the result of their anger against God. But, i shall give them the love they need.
Re: Renowned Evolutionist Turns Creationist And Christian by ScienceWatch: 8:53pm On Oct 11, 2017
butterflyl1on:


grin grin

You got that spot on.

They are a product of a primordial soup. cheesy

I wonder what the soup was eaten with.
Someone said that to turn from Christian or Muslim you must have eaten your primordial soup with Chinese Chop-Sticks.
Re: Renowned Evolutionist Turns Creationist And Christian by ScienceWatch: 8:58pm On Oct 11, 2017
analice107:

Give me a little more time, i'm putting things together to begin picking kids off the streets, i shall pick them all off the streets and give them a home. They need love and care, then they'll know that life is not so empty without a purpose.

The absence of a Father figure in their lives is the result of their anger against God. But, i shall give them the love they need.

Mmmm, you have very deep understanding of the real cause of these spiritual problems. Respect !
We should lawfully give absent fathers 300 lashes then chain them to their kids for 90 days.

Yes, it is a very painful experience for kids when the home is broken for any reason.
Re: Renowned Evolutionist Turns Creationist And Christian by analice107: 9:05pm On Oct 11, 2017
ScienceWatch:
Mmmm, you have very deep understanding of the real cause of these spiritual problems. Respect !
We should lawfully give absent fathers 300 lashes then chain them to their kids for 90 days.

Yes, it is a very painful experience for kids when the home is broken for any reason.
The fathers needs love themselves. We shall have a home for the elderly too.
Re: Renowned Evolutionist Turns Creationist And Christian by ScienceWatch: 9:33pm On Oct 11, 2017
Ericsunday619:
please stop calling great atheists like Richard Dawkins, seun, Charles Darwin and Harris low level people. What have you achieved in life?
Ericsunday619 what the hell is wrong with you ?
You are the one mocking Atheists ! After examining your sick, rude, religious hate, vulgar, childish mentions that you vomit all over Nairaland, readers know that you dont belong on the Romance, or religion sections of Nairaland.

This is what you had to say about Jesus Christ - "That Jewish bastard die for the Jewish people not me."
"Joseph masturbate himself and put the sperm in Mary pus*y when she was sleeping"

Ericsunday619 you belong in the Porn section. I notice you are good at getting other Atheists BANNED. You are a bad influence.

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Re: Renowned Evolutionist Turns Creationist And Christian by JackBizzle: 12:26am On Oct 12, 2017
grin grin

Butterflyl1on and his shameless fake news.

Richard Lumsden died in 1997 and he didnt publish any scientific paper for about 20 years.

His last published papers were in the 70s. It was in the 90s that he became a creationist after he lost his sense to bad habits such as alcoholism.


Lol....butterflylying couldnt find a better or more current "world renowned" scientist?


Stop copying fake news from creationist sites
Re: Renowned Evolutionist Turns Creationist And Christian by butterflyl1on: 7:40am On Oct 12, 2017
JackBizzle:
grin grin

Butterflyl1on and his shameless fake news.

Richard Lumsden died in 1997 and he didnt publish any scientific paper for about 20 years.

His last published papers were in the 70s. It was in the 90s that he became a creationist after he lost his sense to bad habits such as alcoholism.


Lol....butterflylying couldnt find a better or more current "world renowned" scientist?


Stop copying fake news from creationist sites

You are such a mega Jumbo dumbo. cheesy

Ogbeni entered research lane to try and discredit Lumsden. Lmao

From the OP.

Unfortunately, years of unhealthy habits as an unbeliever, including alcohol and tobacco abuse, took their toll on his body, and he died too soon, at age 59, in 1997. His students miss him very much.

That's at the end parts of my OP.

Someone also tried to discredit him just like you and they carried out investigative journalism and later came back to apologise to Lumsden. Read the link.


http://scienceagainstevolution.info/v19i11c.htm

Richard D Lumsden) received the highest award from ASP [the Henry Baldwin Ward Medal] in 1975:

Here is a link to the list of those given such an award


http://amsocparasit.org/node/63 and http://www.k-state.edu/parasitology/wardmedal.html

Attached is his name and year screengrabbed from the above link.

From this link
http://www.bio.net/mm/parasite/1997-January/001947.html here is an extract below

Dear all, I hope this is not inappropriate, but I feel that it has
meaning to the parasitology community.

It is with great personal sadness that I report the death of Dr. Richard
D. Lumsden (age 59, on January 12, 1997). Dr. Lumsden was a cell
biologist, molecular biologist, and a superb electron microscopist. He
had many published papers in many peer-reviewed journals.


Dr. Lumsden, was as well, a world-class parasitologist. His name is
known around the world in parasitology circles. He published some 90
peer-reviewed papers, mostly in parasitological journals often
describing new species, and presented over 100 program abstracts of
papers read. He won the Henry Baldwin Ward medal. He received over 21
Research Grants and Contracts from such organizations at the National

Institutes of Health, The National Science Foundation and the FDA. He
was a trainer of Ph.D.'s - having trained some 27 of them over his
career as Dean of the Graduate School at Tulane.
He was a member of the American Society of Parasitologists, the American
Association for the Advancement of Science, the American Society of
Zoologists, the Society for Cell Biology, the Helminthological Society
of Washington, the New York Academy of Sciences, The Southwestern
Association of Parasitologists, the Louisiana Society for Electron
Microscopy, the Electron Microscopy Society of America, the American
Association of University Professors and Sigma Xi.

Mark Armitage
Azusa Pacific University




You have failed! grin

Re: Renowned Evolutionist Turns Creationist And Christian by JackBizzle: 7:43am On Oct 12, 2017
butterflyl1on:


You are such a mega Jumbo dumbo. cheesy

Ogbeni entered research lane to try and discredit Lumsden. Lmao

From the OP.



That's at the end parts of my OP.

Someone also tried to discredit him just like you and they carried out investigative journalism and later came back to apologise to Lumsden. Read the link.


http://scienceagainstevolution.info/v19i11c.htm

Richard D Lumsden) received the highest award from ASP [the Henry Baldwin Ward Medal] in 1975:

Here is a link to the list of those given such an award


http://amsocparasit.org/node/63 and http://www.k-state.edu/parasitology/wardmedal.html

Attached is his name and year screengrabbed from the above link.

From this link
http://www.bio.net/mm/parasite/1997-January/001947.html here is an extract below

Dear all, I hope this is not inappropriate, but I feel that it has
meaning to the parasitology community.

It is with great personal sadness that I report the death of Dr. Richard
D. Lumsden (age 59, on January 12, 1997). Dr. Lumsden was a cell
biologist, molecular biologist, and a superb electron microscopist. He
had many published papers in many peer-reviewed journals.


Dr. Lumsden, was as well, a world-class parasitologist. His name is
known around the world in parasitology circles. He published some 90
peer-reviewed papers, mostly in parasitological journals often
describing new species, and presented over 100 program abstracts of
papers read. He won the Henry Baldwin Ward medal. He received over 21
Research Grants and Contracts from such organizations at the National

Institutes of Health, The National Science Foundation and the FDA. He
was a trainer of Ph.D.'s - having trained some 27 of them over his
career as Dean of the Graduate School at Tulane.
He was a member of the American Society of Parasitologists, the American
Association for the Advancement of Science, the American Society of
Zoologists, the Society for Cell Biology, the Helminthological Society
of Washington, the New York Academy of Sciences, The Southwestern
Association of Parasitologists, the Louisiana Society for Electron
Microscopy, the Electron Microscopy Society of America, the American
Association of University Professors and Sigma Xi.
Mark Armitage
Azusa Pacific University




You have failed! grin


Please, find a reputable scientist with currently published papers and not someone whose brain expired in the 70s abeg. I don't respect alcoholics
Re: Renowned Evolutionist Turns Creationist And Christian by butterflyl1on: 7:47am On Oct 12, 2017
JackBizzle:



Please, find a reputable scientist with currently published papers and not someone whose brain expired in the 70s abeg. I don't respect alcoholics


so now you can no longer claim the nonsense you said earlier? grin lwkmd

Now it's alcoholism that's the next focus ba? Incidentally it was atheism that led him to alcoholism but Jesus set him free.

Atheism and negative lifestyle has always been 5 and 6.

You are a man-child and I do not respect man-child minded dumbos
Re: Renowned Evolutionist Turns Creationist And Christian by JackBizzle: 7:50am On Oct 12, 2017
#unfollowing for too much foolishness and fake news.

Bye!
Re: Renowned Evolutionist Turns Creationist And Christian by butterflyl1on: 7:51am On Oct 12, 2017
JackBizzle:
#unfollowing for too much foolishness and fake news.

Bye!

You better unfollow to save yourself further embarrasment of your stupidity. grin

Re: Renowned Evolutionist Turns Creationist And Christian by butterflyl1on: 10:01pm On Oct 12, 2017
They keep running from darkness to light.

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