In 1945, atheists in North Korea established a religious free utopian society based on 'science and reason.' Today their progress can be seen from space.

And they take out their frustrations on Christians

OLAADEGBU , in the same atheist nation North Korea , its president Kim Jong-Un takes little girls as sex slaves

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/perverted-north-korea-leader-kim-11206069

KingEbukasBlog:


And they take out their frustrations on Christians

Inspite of all the persecution the North Korean Christians are still hungry for the Word. Click on the link to see how we could help them.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/north-koreas-christians-hungry-for-the-word-203160/

I am not an atheist, but I think your premise is based on a fallacy. North Korea should not be a yard stick. There are many other countries that do not highlight religion, but are doing well better than Nigeria.

"Finland has the most stable economy in world today. There are less than 20 churches in Finland.

Switzerland has the second most stable economy in the world. Switzerland has less than 30 churches.

Denmark is the third most stable economy in the world. Denmark has about 23 churches in it.

These are countries considered largely atheist in nature, yet so blessed.

Come to Owerri town, SE Nigeria, from MCC junction to Toronto junction, there are 36 churches. That stretch of about 5 km harbours 36 churches, more churches than the entire Switzerland.

Between Owerri and Mgbidi l counted 97 churches and gave up. According to CAC, Nigeria has over 23,000 registered churches.

We have more churches than schools and hospitals combined. More pastors than doctors and teachers combined. Everyone is born again. All are covered in the blood of Jesus. All are filled with the Holy Spirit.

Yet none of those claims reflects in the expected moral elevation of society. We are still one of the greediest, laziest, corrupt, deceitful, hypocritical and hateful set of beings on the planet today, with all our Christ and Holy spirit.

Our people need to draw the line between religiosity and spirituality." - Kelechi Ekezie

oake:
I am not an atheist, but I think your premise is based on a fallacy. North Korea should not be a yard stick. There are many other countries that do not highlight religion, but are doing well better than Nigeria.

"Finland has the most stable economy in world today. There are less than 20 churches in Finland.

Switzerland has the second most stable economy in the world. Switzerland has less than 30 churches.

Denmark is the third most stable economy in the world. Denmark has about 23 churches in it.

These are countries considered largely atheist in nature, yet so blessed.

Come to Owerri town, SE Nigeria, from MCC junction to Toronto junction, there are 36 churches. That stretch of about 5 km harbours 36 churches, more churches than the entire Switzerland.

Between Owerri and Mgbidi l counted 97 churches and gave up. According to CAC, Nigeria has over 23,000 registered churches.

We have more churches than schools and hospitals combined. More pastors than doctors and teachers combined. Everyone is born again. All are covered in the blood of Jesus. All are filled with the Holy Spirit.

Yet none of those claims reflects in the expected moral elevation of society. We are still one of the greediest, laziest, corrupt, deceitful, hypocritical and hateful set of beings on the planet today, with all our Christ and Holy spirit.

Our people need to draw the line between religiosity and spirituality." - Kelechi Ekezie

One of the better posts on Nairaland. This is objectivity and enlightenment admixed together.

Bros, kudos to you. We really need more serious minded people like you at the forefront of enlightenment.

Be prepared for bashing though.

oake:


"Finland has the most stable economy in world today. There are less than 20 churches in Finland.

Switzerland has the second most stable economy in the world. Switzerland has less than 30 churches.

Denmark is the third most stable economy in the world. Denmark has about 23 churches in it.

These are countries considered largely atheist in nature, yet so blessed.

Are these countries largely atheistic ? No . Being secular does not mean they are atheistic . These are Christian-dominant nations


https://www.cnbc.com/2015/01/14/the-religion-of-millionaires-.html


Whereas North Korea is officially an atheist nation where there is no freedom of the religion or having the belief in God .

oake:


I am not an atheist, but I think your premise is based on a fallacy. North Korea should not be a yard stick. There are many other countries that do not highlight religion, but are doing well better than Nigeria.

"Finland has the most stable economy in world today. There are less than 20 churches in Finland.

Switzerland has the second most stable economy in the world. Switzerland has less than 30 churches.

Denmark is the third most stable economy in the world. Denmark has about 23 churches in it.

These are countries considered largely atheist in nature, yet so blessed.

Come to Owerri town, SE Nigeria, from MCC junction to Toronto junction, there are 36 churches. That stretch of about 5 km harbours 36 churches, more churches than the entire Switzerland.

Between Owerri and Mgbidi l counted 97 churches and gave up. According to CAC, Nigeria has over 23,000 registered churches.

We have more churches than schools and hospitals combined. More pastors than doctors and teachers combined. Everyone is born again. All are covered in the blood of Jesus. All are filled with the Holy Spirit.

Yet none of those claims reflects in the expected moral elevation of society. We are still one of the greediest, laziest, corrupt, deceitful, hypocritical and hateful set of beings on the planet today, with all our Christ and Holy spirit.

Our people need to draw the line between religiosity and spirituality." - Kelechi Ekezie

What do the flags of Finland, Switzerland and Denmark have in common and what do they stand for? What is the national anthem for Denmark, if you know? What is the sign of the red cross and why do Muslims in the middle east hate it? You should now the difference between religion and Christianity before you begin to mix up your facts.

OLAADEGBU:


What do the flags of Finland, Switzerland and Denmark have in common and what do they stand for? What is the sign of the red cross and why do Muslims in the middle east hate it? You should now the difference between religion and Christianity before you begin to mix up your facts.

Also , their rich Christian heritage and history

KingEbukasBlog:


Also , their rich Christian heritage and history

Good job.

KingEbukasBlog:


Are these countries largely atheistic ? No . Being secular does not mean they are atheistic . These are Christian-dominant nations


https://www.cnbc.com/2015/01/14/the-religion-of-millionaires-.html


Whereas North Korea is officially an atheist nation where there is no freedom of the religion or having the belief in God .

This is not true. In North Korea their supreme leader is their God. People are encouraged to worship him and his family members before him (father and grandfather) as Gods.


"In the past, the people were told to worship the Kim family as their god, but many North Koreans no longer respect Kim Jong-un. That means they are looking for something else to sustain their faith.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/841793/north-korea-news-latest-kim-jong-un-god-religion-citizens


North Koreans believe and worship a God who happens to be their leader. He like other Gods such as Yahweh will not tolerate his subjects worshipping other Gods because he is a very Jealous God like Yahweh. If you worship any other God like him, you'll be killed just the way Yahweh did to his subjects in the bible as we are told. Kim is only following the footsteps of other Gods like Yahweh .

Dalam0n:


This is not true. In North Korea their supreme leader is their God. People are encouraged to worship him and his family members before him (father and grandfather) as Gods.


"In the past, the people were told to worship the Kim family as their god, but many North Koreans no longer respect Kim Jong-un. That means they are looking for something else to sustain their faith.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/841793/north-korea-news-latest-kim-jong-un-god-religion-citizens


North Koreans believe and worship a God who happens to be their leader. He like other Gods such as Yahweh will not tolerate his subjects worshipping other Gods because he is a very Jealous God like Yahweh. If you worship any other God like him, you'll be killed just the way Yahweh did to his subjects in the bible as we are told. Kim is only following the footsteps of other Gods like a Yahweh .

Atheistic evolution is pagan worship of bogus science.

OLAADEGBU:


Atheistic evolution is pagan worship of bogus science.

Read what you are responding to na. What is the link btw my post and the nonsense you just typed?

Dalam0n:


Read what you are responding to na. What is the link btw my post and the nonsense you just typed?

that guy is like science.watch, wouldn't read your post before replying, only this one uses less words and talks like a robot

KingEbukasBlog:


Are these countries largely atheistic ? No . Being secular does not mean they are atheistic . These are Christian-dominant nations


https://www.cnbc.com/2015/01/14/the-religion-of-millionaires-.html


Whereas North Korea is officially an atheist nation where there is no freedom of the religion or having the belief in God .

What is Secular? Denoting attitudes, activities, or other things that have NO religious or spiritual basis.

Making North Korea a yard stick for atheism is a fallacy! There are atheists everywhere and most of them are living a life of bliss you can only imagine.

hopefulLandlord:


that guy is like science.watch, wouldn't read your post before replying, only this one uses less words and talks like a robot

The thing weak me. Abeg stop mentioning science . . . . WAAATCH. The guy will come and mention you 20 times. I can't deal abeg.

Dalam0n:


This is not true. In North Korea their supreme leader is their God. People are encouraged to worship him and his family members before him (father and grandfather) as Gods.


"In the past, the people were told to worship the Kim family as their god, but many North Koreans no longer respect Kim Jong-un. That means they are looking for something else to sustain their faith.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/841793/north-korea-news-latest-kim-jong-un-god-religion-citizens


North Koreans believe and worship a God who happens to be their leader. He like other Gods such as Yahweh will not tolerate his subjects worshipping other Gods because he is a very Jealous God like Yahweh. If you worship any other God like him, you'll be killed just the way Yahweh did to his subjects in the bible as we are told. Kim is only following the footsteps of other Gods like a Yahweh .

The Juche Ideology used by North Koreans doesn't see the Supreme Leader as a deity , his role in their economy is so important because He controls their means of production . He is venerated and even worshiped but this does not make him a god or deity just like the ancestral spirits and forces of nature are venerated and worshiped in Confucianism and Han folk religion because of the roles believed to be played by them in their adherents lives , this does not mean they are deities to the adherents .

North Korea is officially an atheist nation - one that holds no belief in a deity or promotes religious intolerance . Please keep your misinformation to yourself .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism

oake:


What is Secular? Denoting attitudes, activities, or other things that have NO religious or spiritual basis.

Making North Korea a yard stick for atheism is a fallacy! There are atheists everywhere and most of them are living a life of bliss you can only imagine.

I don't think you understand what's going on here . Ignorant Nigerian atheists attack religion and blame it for being the cause of the situation in the Nigeria , the attack has been mirrored and North Korea as an official state is being referenced as a nation without religion yet doing so bad economically and otherwise .

If religion is the cause of the problem in Nigeria , then atheism is a cause of the problems in North Korea since it is an atheist state officially.

Dalam0n:


Read what you are responding to na. What is the link btw my post and the nonsense you just typed?

Either you like it or not you are bound to worship one thing or the other. It's either we worship God or any of His creations. You can even worship yourselves as we all know that at the heart of atheism is the love and adoration of your sinful lifestyle.

KingEbukasBlog:



The Juche Ideology used by North Koreans doesn't see the Supreme Leader as a deity , his role in their economy is so important because He controls their means of production . He is venerated and even worshiped but this does not make him a god or deity just like the ancestral spirits and forces of nature are venerated and worshiped in Confucianism and Han folk religion because of the roles believed to be played by them in their adherents lives , this does not mean they are deities to the adherents .

North Korea is officially an atheist nation - one that holds no belief in a deity or promotes religious intolerance . Please keep your misinformation to yourself .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism

Will you keep quiet. Their leader is their deity.

"Officially regarded as an omnipotent genius, he is worshipped like a god and shown constantly surrounded by people, including his highest military officers festooned in medals, laughing or clapping, or shouting hysterically."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/godlike-kim-worshipped-by-his-people-as-an-omnipotent-genius/news-story/139f52bbcf50d25335b8d12e92c9309a

Reports after reports from credible news agencies have stated clearly that he is a God in North Koran and his people worship him. They hold some special beliefs about him.

For example they believe he doesnt defecate and urinate. They believe he doesnt function as a normal human being.

"According to the secretive state, the Kim family is too perfect to need the toilet like the rest of us.

It’s a claim repeated in an official biography of the late leader Kim Jong-il and confirmed by North Korean concentration camp survivor Kang Chol-hwan.

In his memoir, the Aquariums of Pyongyang, Mr Kang writes: “[They] were perfect beings, untarnished by any base human function."

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/520819/Kim-Jong-does-not-poo-pee-urinate-defecate-weird-facts-mother-boobs-breast-golf-books


They also say he has special powers and is not a normal human being. They believe he is a special being and he is their God. He is worshipped by all of them and revered greatly. Kim Jun Un is their God. They are not atheist since they worship their leader.

Dalam0n:


Will you keep quiet. Their leader is their deity.

"Officially regarded as an omnipotent genius, he is worshipped like a god

You are struggling to understand this simple concepts of deification and cult of personality . Worshiped like a god does not mean he is a deity

Mary is worshiped like a god in Catholicism , does that make her a deity to the Catholics ?

The Confucians worship ancestral spirits like gods too , this does not ancestral spirits are deities to them .

If North Korea wasn't officially an atheist state , Juche Ideology wouldnt have been referred to as "state-sanctioned atheism" .


The North Korean government promotes the cult of personality of Kim Jong-un

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_personality

Please understand what this means before you respond . Its all making use of propaganda and creating god-like perception of the Supreme Leader since they are a totalitarian government

KingEbukasBlog:


I don't think you understand what's going on here . Ignorant Nigerian atheists attack religion and blame it for being the cause of the situation in the Nigeria , the attack has been mirrored and North Korea as an official state is being referenced as a nation without religion yet doing so bad economically and otherwise .

If religion is the cause of the problem in Nigeria , then atheism is a cause of the problems in North Korea since it is an atheist state officially.

Lol @ "Ignorant Nigerian atheists".

Well, I don't think that is what the Op means, but if it is, then know that in North Korea, the one and only God is Kim!! So, they do have a "religion" after all.

oake:


Lol @ "Ignorant Nigerian atheists".

Well, I don't think that is what the Op means, but if it is, then know that in North Korea, the one and only God is Kim!! So, they do have a "religion" after all.

Political religions are used by totalitarian governments to subdue the masses . They are not the religion we know like state religions and personal religions

KingEbukasBlog:


You are struggling to understand this simple concepts of deification and cult of personality . Worshiped like a god does not mean he is a deity

Mary is worshiped like a god in Catholicism , does that make her a deity to the Catholics ?

The Confucians worship ancestral spirits like gods too , this does not ancestral spirits are deities to them .

If North Korea wasn't officially an atheist state , Juche Ideology wouldnt have been referred to as "state-sanctioned atheism" .


The North Korean government promotes the cult of personality of Kim Jong-un

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_personality

Please understand what this means before you respond . Its all making use of propaganda and creating god-like perception of the Supreme Leader since they are a totalitarian government

Reputable news outlets have stated that he is worshipped by his people. Even Dennis Rodman said he is God to the people of North Korea when he visited. He said he is the only God man he knows.

Their supreme leader is their God and they worship him. They do NOT take him to be a normal Human being. They believe he doesn't poo poo or urinate and has special powers. He is their God.

OLAADEGBU:


Either you like it or not you are bound to worship one thing or the other. It's either we worship God or any of His creations. You can even worship yourselves as we all know that at the heart of atheism is the love and adoration of your sinful lifestyle.

Be there worshiping the ideas, imaginations and fictional make belief mythology of the ancient Jews.

Dalam0n:


Reputable news outlets have stated that he is worshipped by his people. Even Dennis Rodman said he is God to the people of North Korea when he visited. He said he is the only God man he knows.

Their supreme leader is their God and they worship him. They do NOT take him to be a normal Human being. They believe he doesn't poo poo or urinate and has special powers. He is their God.

I understand you are trying so hard to make atheism in North Korea disappear but it won't because of the Juche Ideology which is a variant of Marxism-Leninism(totally atheistic) and cult of personality(used mostly by totalitarian governments to instill fear and subdue the masses ) are core principles North Koreans adhere to .

And I strongly believe you are smart enough to understand what I'm saying but the irrationality of being an atheist wont just let you shine

KingEbukasBlog:




I understand you are trying so hard to make atheism in North Korea disappear but it won't because of the Juche Ideology which is a variant of Marxism-Leninism(totally atheistic) and cult of personality(used mostly by totalitarian governments to instill fear and subdue the masses ) are core principles North Koreans adhere to .

And I strongly believe you are smart enough to understand what I'm saying but the irrationality of being an atheist wont just let you shine

People believe that their leader is a diety and they worship him, instead of acknowledging you are busy trying to impress yourself with English. Na wa ooo.

KingEbukasBlog:


Political religions are used by totalitarian governments to subdue the masses . They are not the religion we know like state religions and personal religions

Article 4 of the 10 Principles for the Establishment of Monolithic Leadership System stipulates a mandatory provision that "People shall faithfully revere the Great Leader and comrade Kim Il Sung". If this is not state religion, I wonder what it is.

And perhaps, is it not possible that it is the "totalitarian" nature of North Korea's government that is the cause of the country "doing so bad economically and otherwise" and not atheism as the OP so claimed?

Dalam0n:


Be there worshiping the ideas, imaginations and fictional make belief mythology of the ancient Jews.

cold blooded

Using North Korea as an example of an "atheist" country is a complete fallacy - "Juche" and the rigid ideology of the dictator state mirrors hardcore religion completely in it's restrictions and zealotry.

Actually, some of the most intelligent moments in human history have seen huge explosions in atheism, such as Pre-Platonic Greece with Democritus and the like, ancient India (which may or may not have had ancient Greek scholarly contact), The Islamic Golden Age (many Islamic scientists, poets and mathematicians were atheists, with many more taking an extremely critical take on the Quran, such as with the Mutazliah school), and the Enlightenment, the French Revolution and the rise of Socialism.

Far from being Dark Ages, these events were gasps of human ingenuity and hope, which were immediately followed by violent religious and political crackdowns, book-burning and whatnot.

KingEbukasBlog:


Political religions are used by totalitarian governments to subdue the masses . They are not the religion we know like state religions and personal religions

if Kim is the God of north Korea, what is bad? At least he is a living god and not some dead Jewish man

Dalam0n:



People believe that their leader is a diety and they worship him, instead of acknowledging you are busy trying to impress yourself with English. Na wa ooo.

hehehehe