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Fighting The Disbelievers In Islam by proudlyYoruba(m): 9:44pm On Oct 19, 2017
A certain piece (picture) is used by non Muslims to shame Muslims on this forum. I laid my hand on one of the piece and i did a thorough translation of the verses quoted therein (I will attach the picture at the end of the piece) by giving full translation of such verses and secondarily putting into consideration the context; which could be the time the verse was revealed or by taking into consideration the preceding and seceding of that particular verse.

2 v 191And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al fitnah is worse than killing. And fight not with them at Al Masjid-Al-Haram unless they fight you there. But if they attack you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.


3 v 28. Let not the believers take the disbelievers as supporters or helpers instead of the believers, and whoever does that will never be helped by Allah in any way, except if you indeed fear a danger from them. And Allah warns you against Himself (His Punishment) and to Allah is the final call.

3 v 85. And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.

5 v 33. The recompense of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger (S. A. W) and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off from opposite sides, or be exiled from the land. That is their disgrace in this world, and great torment is theirs in the hereafter.

8 v 12. (Remember) when your Lord revealed to the angels, 'Verily, I am with you, so keep firm those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved, so strike them over the necks, and smite over all their fingers and toes'
NOTE: THE VERSE WAS REVEALED AFTER THE BATTLE OF BADR REMINDING THE MUSLIMS THAT WINNING THE QURAYSHIS WHO CAME TO ATTACK THEM WHEN THEY HAD NO WEAPON WAS NOT BY THEIR MIGHT BUT ALLAH'S POWER. SO THE MUSLIMS SHOULD NOT BE AFRAID TO RESIST THE QURAYSH IN THE BATTLE OF UHUD CAUSE HE IS WITH THEM

8 v 60. And make ready against them all you can of power, including steeds of war to threaten thereby the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others besides them whom you may not know, (but) whom Allah does not know. And whatever you shall spend in the cause of Allah, shall be repaid to you, and you shall not be treated unjustly.
NOTE: The seceding verse maintained ' But if they incline to peace, you also incline to it, and (put your) trust in Allah. Verily, He is the All-Hearer, the All-Knower.

8 v 65. O Prophet (S. A. W) Urge the believers to fight. If there are twenty steadfast persons amongst you, they will overcome two hundreds and if there be a hundred steadfast persons, they will overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they are people who do not understand.
NOTE: MUSLIMS DURING THIS TIME ARE NEW CONVERTS THEY DON’T HAVE ANY TRAINING. 'UNDERSTANDING' HERE MEANS MORALE THAT IS MORALE MAKES A MUSLIM STRONGER THAN A DISBELIEVER.

9 v 5. Then when the sacred Months have passed, then kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush. But if they repent and perform As salat and give Zakat live their way free. Verily, Allah is Oft Forgiving, Most Merciful.
NOTE: THIS SURAH HAS BEEN USED BY TERRORISTS TO JUSTIFY THEIR ACT HOWEVER THE PRECEDING VERSE STATED 'Except those of the disbelievers with whom you have a treaty, and who have not subsequently failed you in aught (anything), nor have supported anyone against you. So fulfill their treaty to them for the end of their term.' Surely Allah loves the pious.

9 v 30. And the Jews say: 'Uzair is the son of Allah' and the Christians say: 'Messiah is the son of Allah'. That is their saying with their mouths, resembling the saying of those who disbelieved aforetime. Allah's curse be on them, how they are deluded away from the truth.

9 v 123. O you who believe ! Fight those disbelievers who are close to you, and let them find harshness in you:and know that Allah is with those who are PIOUS
NOTE: THE DISBELIEVERS IN THIS VERSE ARE THE HYPOCRITES THOSE WHO PRETEND TO BE MUSLIMS BUT ARE NOT. THE SUCCEEDING VERSE STATED THAT ' And whenever there comes down a surah some of them (hypocrites) say: Which of you has had his faith increased by it? As for those who believe, it has increased their fight' . THE WORD HYPOCRITES AND DISBELIEVERS WERE INTERCHANGED HERE. HYPOCRITES ARE NOT BELIEVERS

22 v 19. These two opponents (believers and disbelievers) dispute each other about their LORD: then as for those who disbelieved, garments of fire will be cut out for them, boiling water will be poured down over their heads
NOTE: DESCRIPTION OF HELL FIRE

47 v 4. So, when you meet those who disbelieve, smite their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (take them as captives). Thereafter either for generosity or ransome, until the war lays down its burden. Thus, but if it had been Allah's will, He Himself could certainly have punished them. But in order to test some of you with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost


OUR RELIGION SHOULDN'T BE IMPOSED FORCEFULLY ON PEOPLE, SURAH 80. ABASA 7-13 says 'WHAT DOES IT MATTER TO YOU IF HE WILL NOT BECOME PURE (from disbelief: you are only a Messenger, your duty is to convey the message of Allah). BUT AS TO HIM WHO CAME TO YOU RUNNING. AND HE IS AFRAID (of Allah and His punishment). OF HIM YOU ARE NEGLECTFUL AND DIVERT YOUR TO ANOTHER. NAY(do not do like this) ;INDEED IT (this Quran) IS AN ADMONITION. SO WHOEVER WILLS LET HIM PAY ATTENTION

Sissie , mukina2

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Re: Fighting The Disbelievers In Islam by Nobody: 10:25am On Oct 20, 2017
Am i the ftc?

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Re: Fighting The Disbelievers In Islam by blackbelt(m): 10:25am On Oct 20, 2017
May Allah guide us
Re: Fighting The Disbelievers In Islam by Proffdada: 10:32am On Oct 20, 2017
What happens to apostates of islam and what is Taqiyya?

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Re: Fighting The Disbelievers In Islam by harmeadA(m): 10:33am On Oct 20, 2017
May Allah bless you for the write up but as you know no Matter how much you try to explain ,majority of them won't read to understand. They read to reply or find another twist.

Jummat Kareem.....

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Re: Fighting The Disbelievers In Islam by nathdim: 10:34am On Oct 20, 2017
My Muslim brethren please enlighten us and dont shy away ooo
like it or not these verses are really affecting billions of life around the globe both muslims and non muslims

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Re: Fighting The Disbelievers In Islam by OgologoDimkpa: 10:48am On Oct 20, 2017
This religion is not made for modern day people shocked So archaic!

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Re: Fighting The Disbelievers In Islam by Nobody: 11:08am On Oct 20, 2017
donjazet:
Your religion is very archaic and barbaric, take it or leave it. Your religion is responsible for more than 60% of deaths in the 21st century. Such a shame.

The world is what you see as it is

You guys just intentionally wanted to see the bad side.

Most of the verse you guys use against the religion are just snippet, now the OP brought out full meaning

Well done OP
As a matter of fact, am saving this bookmark both its url and as offline page

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Re: Fighting The Disbelievers In Islam by BenzEne1(m): 11:09am On Oct 20, 2017
These verses were all revealed in times of battle, apostacy or when treaties were signed and there after broken. It doesn't mean that muslims should kill a disbeliever on sight. There mist have been a precedence. And just to point out to an earlier comment Islam isn't responsible for killings in the 21st century. You have no proof of that, so dont mislead people abeg. Allahualam

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Re: Fighting The Disbelievers In Islam by proudlyYoruba(m): 11:25am On Oct 20, 2017
donjazet:
Your religion is very archaic and barbaric, take it or leave it. Your religion is responsible for more than 60% of deaths in the 21st century. Such a shame.
Archaic? Should i tell laws of engagement in the 7th century, the first Khalifah ar rashidun told his forces going to battle; do not kill animals except for food, do not burn houses and trees, do not kill children and women, and if you man doing what he knows how to do confined away from the world (monastery) let him be, and many more. In the 21st centuries how many countries have this type of law? In Sha Allah i will open another detailing the lifes of Khalifah 's and their engagement with their subjects (muslims and non Muslims). I won't deny some enemies of Islam have used Islamic cloaks perpetrate their evil? Just so you know their are certain months Muslims don't fight which month ISIS DOESN'T BLOW PEOPLE UP

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Re: Fighting The Disbelievers In Islam by NotComplaining: 11:32am On Oct 20, 2017
donjazet:
Your religion is very archaic and barbaric, take it or leave it. Your religion is responsible for more than 60% of deaths in the 21st century. Such a shame.

And your religion is man made. There are children books more coherent than the bible.

Harry Potter novels are no different from todays assorted bibles, full of magic and wizardry.

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Re: Fighting The Disbelievers In Islam by blacktoy(m): 11:34am On Oct 20, 2017
Subhana llah.......may Almighty Allah increase u in knowledge
Re: Fighting The Disbelievers In Islam by wittyt98(m): 12:17pm On Oct 20, 2017
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Re: Fighting The Disbelievers In Islam by wittyt98(m): 12:20pm On Oct 20, 2017
grin

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Re: Fighting The Disbelievers In Islam by kingsmaila(m): 12:22pm On Oct 20, 2017
We have similar verses like these in the Bible so don't be deceived.
Re: Fighting The Disbelievers In Islam by proudlyYoruba(m): 12:40pm On Oct 20, 2017
ivolt:
@OP, you have two choices.

Be proud of the misogynistic war manual and believe
that muhammad, a 7th century slave raider who married
a 6 year old Aisha is the best of humans

OR

Accept that the Quran is the outdated musing of a 7th-century man
who thinks he is the best of humans and realize that belief system
contained in that document is not applicabel to a modern
21st-century society that seeks progress.
Thanks. Let me tell you something about right and wrong, RIGHT AND WRONG is determined by the dominant force in the world, democracy is the best bla bla bla however do you think there is a correct way of thinking. The correct way will be determined by the ruling hegemony with the media im tentacles dictating what should be broadcast an dwhat should not. So take chill pill and try to see what is wrong or right in the next 1400 years. For rasulllahi's wife age we treated that in this thread https://www.nairaland.com/4086011/prophet-islam-w-did-not. Read

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Re: Fighting The Disbelievers In Islam by ivolt: 12:52pm On Oct 20, 2017
proudlyYoruba:
Thanks. Let me tell you something about right and wrong, RIGHT AND WRONG is determined by the dominant force in the world, democracy is the best bla bla bla however do you think there is a correct way of thinking. The correct way will be determined by the ruling hegemony with the media im tentacles dictating what should be broadcast an dwhat should not. So take chill pill and try to see what is wrong or right in the next 1400 years. For rasulllahi's wife age we treated that in this thread https://www.nairaland.com/4086011/prophet-islam-w-did-not. Read

Who told you that democracy is the best?
I have never heard any informed person make such a claim.

How do right and wrong relate to democracy?

I don't know about you, I don't need media or a book to
tell me that killing and stealing is wrong.

Just because you have the power to bring harm to another person
without consequence does not mean you are right, that is what
muhammad failed to understand. He believed that might is right.

As regards Aisha's age, it is only a debate among internet pseudo-scholars,
No Islamic scholar worth its salt would even devote time to disputing Aisha's
age given the overwhelming evidence that Muhammad married her while
she was still a 6-year-old child.

To me, that is even the least repugnat thing Muhammad was reported doing.

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Re: Fighting The Disbelievers In Islam by abduljabbar4(m): 1:11pm On Oct 20, 2017
CeeJay9ja:
There are controversial activities that can be debated on the Islam section but due to the stupidity of the moderators and owner of this forum plus his biased and hate for Christianity, we are forced to swear a
disgusting oath before we can air our view.

If Seun or the Islam moderators were a president of a country, tell me why they won't be worse than a dictator?

Silly Hypocrites.



Like swearing an undocumented oath online makes me any less a Christian....duh! grin


So now that you have the ability to comment, is this all that you have to offer? The truth about majority of you christians on this forum is that you have zero tolerance for other religions. You call others devils and even atheists are not spared. Majority of you are unintelligent and you dont contribute anything meaningful. Just look at what the fools posted on this thread. So many insults but none of you has even made an attempt to counter the op. useless people
Re: Fighting The Disbelievers In Islam by abduljabbar4(m): 1:14pm On Oct 20, 2017
ivolt:
@OP, you have two choices.

Be proud of the misogynistic war manual and believe
that muhammad, a 7th century slave raider who married
a 6 year old Aisha is the best of humans

OR

Accept that the Quran is the outdated musing of a 7th-century man
who thinks he is the best of humans and realize that belief system
contained in that document is not applicabel to a modern
21st-century society that seeks progress.

Shut up. at least he is a human being. What can you say about a god that impregnated an innocent virgin, killed millions of people for minor reasons and instructed his followers to rape virgins while killing the others

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Re: Fighting The Disbelievers In Islam by abduljabbar4(m): 1:19pm On Oct 20, 2017
OgologoDimkpa:
This religion is not made for modern day people shocked So archaic!

so is christianity. A religion that believes in witches and senseless miracles. Im sure you believe that apostle sulaiman really brought that corpse back to life and healed a blind woman. lol

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Re: Fighting The Disbelievers In Islam by proudlyYoruba(m): 1:39pm On Oct 20, 2017
ivolt:


Who told you that democracy is the best?
I have never heard any informed person make such a claim.

How do right and wrong relate to democracy?

I don't know about you, I don't need media or a book to
tell me that killing and stealing is wrong.

Just because you have the power to bring harm to another person
without consequence does not mean you are right, that is what
muhammad failed to understand. He believed that might is right.

As regards Aisha's age, it is only a debate among internet pseudo-scholars,
No Islamic scholar worth its salt would even devote time to disputing Aisha's
age given the overwhelming evidence that Muhammad married her while
she was still a 6-year-old child.

To me, that is even the least repugnat thing Muhammad was reported doing.
Psuedo Islamic scholars like maulana Muhammad Ali. The democracy as the best form of Government was propagated by US. Democracy conspiracies in the Middle east prolly brought most of the conflict there, a system alien to them. Nobody told you stealing and killing were wrong? Sir how did you form that perception. You prolly killed an ant and you were corrected saying it is not good, you prolly chased chicken with the intent of killing it before an adult cautioned you that it is not right 'can you accept if someone does that to you' they tell you. Stealing you prolly stole a meat and u were cautioned. The elders perception have been shaped with their interaction with other society which could be from experience, books and consequences of this act. What was right now was scorned in the 9th century, what is celebrated now prolly could lead ur death in the 19th century, human were killed for ritual then and it was normal, now it is barbaric.
Your assertion of 'might is right' is to a man who ran away from his property with just 300 followers which an armed army of 1000 was raised against. Should he sit and cross leg for him to be crushed. The same reason that drove the isrealites to protect themselves against the philistine drove him to protect himself. The spirits that drove the Romans, British, Genghis Khan, Alexandra the great to conquer territories and expand his rule drove Muslims conquerors in history. Sit down and think how old was my great great grandma when her marriage was consummated to her husband? Then compare to 1400 years ago. I will condemn any fool that marry a 9 year old now
Re: Fighting The Disbelievers In Islam by trigonometry: 1:47pm On Oct 20, 2017
see, una go just kill unaselves for no reason, hate it or love it Islam has come to stay and its not going anywhere so be used to it. it will do u guys a lotta good to just stay away from islamic threads cos after going thru the pain of swearing the oath, u guys will still come and read an article that will pain u guys more again. i can imagine how traumatizing it is. sorry folks................. Islam is spreading like a wild fire and y'all have to deal with it to have urselves some peace of mind at least.
how many times have u seen muslims storm christian articles to come and be spewing hate speeches?? we have learnt not to bother ourselves with something that doesn't make sense to us, so y'all should do the same.................. just a candid advice from someone that cares a little.

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Re: Fighting The Disbelievers In Islam by Nobody: 1:57pm On Oct 20, 2017
CeeJay9ja:
There are controversial activities that can be debated on the Islam section but due to the stupidity of the moderators and owner of this forum plus his biased and hate for Christianity, we are forced to swear a
disgusting oath before we can air our view.

If Seun or the Islam moderators were a president of a country, tell me why they won't be worse than a dictator?

Silly Hypocrites.



Like swearing an undocumented oath online makes me any less a Christian....duh! grin

seu!n must have been threatened to put that oath there, my brother.

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Re: Fighting The Disbelievers In Islam by Nobody: 2:12pm On Oct 20, 2017
Tuham:


The world is what you see as it is

You guys just intentionally wanted to see the bad side.

Most of the verse you guys use against the religion are just snippet, now the OP brought out full meaning

Well done OP
As a matter of fact, am saving this bookmark both its url and as offline page
what good side should we see in the activities of boko harm and Isis, Which are products of Islamic indoctrination? sad

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Re: Fighting The Disbelievers In Islam by nellyelitz(m): 2:23pm On Oct 20, 2017
BenzEne1:
These verses were all revealed in times of battle, apostacy or when treaties were signed and there after broken. It doesn't mean that muslims should kill a disbeliever on sight. There mist have been a precedence. And just to point out to an earlier comment Islam isn't responsible for killings in the 21st century. You have no proof of that, so dont mislead people abeg. Allahualam
you're right, i see bokoharam, Hezbollah, isisi etc all quoting Bible before slitting the infidels throats and when detonating bombs just to meet their share of 70 virgins.

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Re: Fighting The Disbelievers In Islam by Olizey(m): 2:59pm On Oct 20, 2017
Truly, this words posted by the op show a lot of violence. It's the backbone of terrorism nowadays. But not muslims support violence. atleast my mum doesn't. I am Christain and i believe all religions have their basis whether traditional or modern. Nigerians just have a closed mentality. And to the oath before comment, IT IS TRASH.

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