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Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by damascuskyi: 12:15pm On Oct 27, 2017
NotComplaining:


If I insult your mother, your father, siblings and those who you hold dear, will it harm you?

And those are only people loved by a mere nobody, talkless people loved by billions.

You need therapy.
Wrong analogy. My family is not God. My family will not encourage me to kill someone who insults them. My family would forgive those who insult them because that is what we are taught. And on my own, if you insult my family I will not kill you, I would give a greater insult that would make you cry your heart out. If your family encourages you to kill those who insult them, then they are vampires.
That been said if your god(g) needs you to kill those who insult him then he is an idol.
As for needing therapy, I think those who worship a god that needs protection by humans need the therapy more.

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Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by gabe: 12:16pm On Oct 27, 2017
we need more bold imams and sheikhs to speak this laudable truth to the muslim umma.
Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by Ridwanna(m): 12:17pm On Oct 27, 2017
Egein:
Quite obviously, the cause of Islamic fanaticism, zealotry and suicide terrorism is rooted in the Holy Qur’an (9:111; 3:169; 4:74; 4:95). Terrorists like Shekau, Osama, the lads ISIS and others are the victims of Quranic scriptural immoral teachings. They believe Quran by their hearts and try to follow the Quran in Toto! But the general born Muslims do not follow Quran at all, and that is why they believe in their own peaceful illusionary vision of Islam, which never existed in the history of Islam.

Shekau and Osama are true Muslims who follow the Quran and hadiths in ‘Toto’ and these heros of Muslim interprets Quranic verses and hadiths as per the needs of Islamic Umma, and of course, as per the real spirit of medieval Islam.

Essentially, yes, the Qur'an supports suicide bombings and utter violence.

What is dis one saying now. It is vivid that u know nothing bout Islam.
And if u're a Muslim, u need to be reset by whipping.
Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by damascuskyi: 12:23pm On Oct 27, 2017
aril:


See it is this simple... For the fact that you speak English doesn't connote how intelligent you are. Infact if you hold a Phd it doesn't define you as intelligent.

Learn and continue to learn... You can't give what you don't have. If you don't know anything about islam learn from people who are knowledgeable about it.. Stop using your shallow logic that makes you look silly..

Reply to you respond..

Commanding what is right and forbidding what is wrong provides a mechanism whereby the Muslim Ummah can fight off various social, moral and spiritual ills and maintain a healthy and dynamic life. For an individual, too, the practice of this principle provides both a source and an indication of spiritual and moral health. If we ignore this principle and in the face of wrong we do not react in any way, then this means that in a spiritual and moral sense we are dead. `Abd allah ibn Mas'ud was once asked, "Who are the living dead?" and he replied, "Those who never command something good and never forbid something bad". A similar point is made in that well known Hadith in which the Prophet (pbuh) is reported to have said:

"If one of you sees something wrong, let him change it with his hand; if he cannot, then with his tongue; if he cannot, then with his heart and this is the weakest faith." Some versions add: "there is no part of faith behind that, not even so much as a mustard seed.

Peace...
So there is a part where you are asked to change it in your heart, but you choose the first option which is to change it with your hand. What would also happen if you choose the second option which is the voice option? But no. Violence and killing those whom you accuse of blasphemy is your choice.
Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by Egein(m): 12:31pm On Oct 27, 2017
Ridwanna:


What is dis one saying now. It is vivid that u know nothing bout Islam.
And if u're a Muslim, u need to be reset by whipping.
I should be whipped if I'm a Muslim? Proves my point of the organically embedded violence that Islam encourages and prescribes. Quite sad.
Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by murjaatu(f): 12:47pm On Oct 27, 2017
QueenOfNepal:
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I'm not sure it's haram because it's the only common thing we ve been seeing in Islam
If you dnt knw anything in Islam y dnt you just shut ur trap up and learn instead of posting rubbish
Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by aril: 12:47pm On Oct 27, 2017
damascuskyi:

So there is a part where you are asked to change it in your heart, but you choose the first option which is to change it with your hand. What would also happen if you choose the second option which is the voice option? But no. Violence and killing those whom you accuse of blasphemy is your choice.

Whatever rocks your world bro. I ain't here to discuss with you about what you don't know. Did you read the part I said u can't give what you don't have?

Sadly you didn't read my reply well enough. Your mind is filled with hate and you never sees any good things to talk about about islam.

You cannot give what you don't have. Understand this line.....

Whatever option I chose is my business and as long as you lots here won't stop slandering my deen I will not just look and ignore like it doesn't concern me. I will do the little I can through phone.

Peace....
Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by akigbemaru: 12:50pm On Oct 27, 2017
Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by murjaatu(f): 12:51pm On Oct 27, 2017
emmygzy:
Na lie jor. It's common thing in Islam with a promise of fvcking virgin Pusey in paradise. Islam is a religion of killing and war.
it's obvious you knw nothing.I am a muslim,and I have read my Qur'an times without number, there is nowhere that supports terrorism in the holy book of Allah. So dnt judge my religion becus of some set of ignorant ppl.
Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by Mutigadara1: 1:08pm On Oct 27, 2017
Please do not condemn Islam based on some few bad peoples and their actions. If that's the case we could have condemn Christianity as a religion of prostitution base on how Christian girls dress nowadays,but we know that's not how your religion says that you should dress.pls let us understand each other. Thank you
QueenOfNepal:
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I'm not sure it's haram because it's the only common thing we ve been seeing in Islam
Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by Nobody: 1:15pm On Oct 27, 2017
murjaatu:
If you dnt knw anything in Islam y dnt you just shut ur trap up and learn instead of posting rubbish
look at the person I'm fighting for her survival grin
Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by Nobody: 1:16pm On Oct 27, 2017
Mutigadara1:
Please do not condemn Islam based on some few bad peoples and their actions. If that's the case we could have condemn Christianity as a religion of prostitution base on how Christian girls dress nowadays,but we know that's not how your religion says that you should dress.pls let us understand each other. Thank you
You spoke well but indecent dressing is not a Christian thing Rather it's Liberalism in action
Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by abduljabbar4(m): 1:32pm On Oct 27, 2017
Egein:

Mumu. Hitler never killed in the name of Jesus, or any god for that matter. All suicide bombings and generally carried out by Muslims are done, as prescribed in the Qur'an, in the name of allah.
Of course, there are also Christian-inspired terrorist groups, like The Lords Resistance Army (formerly known as Holy Spirit Movement) which as a heterodox Christian cult; so I my comment was in response to the post's topic, and not in juxtaposition to Christian terrorism. So you see, I'm not biased, you slowpoke. I'm not a Christian.

You are brain dead. So what do you have to say about the bloody christian crusades? didnt they do that in the name of their lords? Thank God you even acknowledged that there are Christian terrorist groups. That means you have absolutely no moral right to accuse Islam. Dakiki dabba
Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by murjaatu(f): 1:35pm On Oct 27, 2017
QueenOfNepal:
look at the person I'm fighting for her survival grin
pls you can never fight for my survival pls kindly fight for ur dumbness
Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by damascuskyi: 1:37pm On Oct 27, 2017
aril:


What prophet are you talking about... You don't wake up out of the blues and say something against any prophets... Muslims won't tolerate it, I won't keep quiet about it.

We respect all the prophets of Allah we(Muslims) won't be muted reading anyone saying something against them..

Peace..




Uncu, I am still waiting for you ooo
Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by murjaatu(f): 1:44pm On Oct 27, 2017
princeade86:
am a real Christian, buh i believe dat islam is not a terrorist group, buh ignorant people among them misleading them.
bros I wish I can like ur post a million times but I can't

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Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by NotComplaining: 3:01pm On Oct 27, 2017
damascuskyi:

Wrong analogy. My family is not God. My family will not encourage me to kill someone who insults them. My family would forgive those who insult them because that is what we are taught. And on my own, if you insult my family I will not kill you, I would give a greater insult that would make you cry your heart out. If your family encourages you to kill those who insult them, then they are vampires.
That been said if your god(g) needs you to kill those who insult him then he is an idol.
As for needing therapy, I think those who worship a god that needs protection by humans need the therapy more.

Clearly you grew up having no honor for your loved ones... Pity. But most atheists indulge in apathy... Bipolar?

I grew up in a time when insulting someones mother equalled a busted lip. Maybe time changes, but principles dont.

If you feel the world rotates around your amoral perspectives then put them to the litmus test, go to any non-Muslim and insult his generation. I'm sure you wouldnt dare it, yet you want to test the zeal of religious fundamentalist who are orthodox in belief and action.

You live in your own ideal world, so no your vote does not count.

If you were to enter any institution for the mentally deluded and deranged you will find it filled with many hopeless, like-minded wandering souls, unable to identify their mission in this "purposeless" life.
Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by NotComplaining: 3:04pm On Oct 27, 2017
Rashduct4luv:


KINDLY EXPLAIN HOW I LOST AND WHY THE QUR'AN IS LIKE A NOVEL...THE HADITH GOES THUS:

It was narrated that Abu Hurayrah said: The Messenger of Allaah (S) said: “Whoever throws himself down from a mountain and kills himself will be throwing himself down in the Fire of Hell for ever and ever. Whoever drinks poison and kills himself will be sipping it in the in the Fire of Hell for ever and ever. Whoever kills himself with a piece of iron will have that iron in his hand, thrusting it into his belly in the Fire of Hell for ever and ever.”

Narrated by al-Bukhaari (5442) and Muslim (109).

And the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said, as was narrated from Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him): “Whoever kills himself with a piece of iron will have that iron in his hand, thrusting it into his belly in the Fire of Hell for ever and ever. Whoever drinks poison and kills himself will have his poison in his hand, sipping it in the Fire of Hell for ever and ever. Whoever throws himself down from a mountain and kills himself will be throwing himself down in the Fire of Hell for ever and ever.” And it was narrated from Jaabir (may Allah be pleased with him) that a man killed himself with a broad arrow head and the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) did not offer the funeral prayer for him. Narrated by the group except al-Bukhaari.

And in Tafsir Ibn Kathir, the exegesis of the Ayah goes thus:

(And do not kill yourselves.) by committing Allah's prohibitions, falling into sin and eating up each other's property unjustly, (Surely, Allah is Most Merciful to you.) in what He commanded you and prohibited you from. Imam Ahmad recorded that `Amr bin Al-`As said that when the Prophet sent him for the battle of Dhat As-Salasil, "I had a wet dream during a very cold night and feared that if I bathed, I would die. So I performed Tayammum (with pure earth) and led my company in the Dawn prayer. When I went back to the Messenger of Allah , I mentioned what had happened to me and he said, (O `Amr! Have you led your people in prayer while you were in a state of sexual impurity) I said, 'O Messenger of Allah! I had a wet dream on a very cold night and feared that if I bathed I would perish, and I remembered Allah's statement, (And do not kill yourselves. Surely, Allah is Most Merciful to you). So I performed Tayammum and prayed.' The Messenger of Allah smiled and did not say anything.'' This is the narration reported by Abu Dawud. Ibn Marduwyah mentioned this honorable Ayah and then reported that Abu Hurayrah said that the Messenger of Allah said, (Whoever kills himself with an iron tool, then his tool will be in his hand and he will keep stabbing himself with it in the Fire of Jahannam, forever and ever. Whoever kills himself with poison, then his poison will be in his hand and he will keep taking it in the Fire of Jahannam forever and ever. Whoever kills himself by throwing himself from a mountain, will keep falling in the Fire of Jahannam forever and ever.) This Hadith was also collected in the Two Sahihs. Abu Qilabah said that Thabit bin Ad-Dahhak said that the Messenger of Allah said, (Whoever kills himself with an instrument, will be punished with it on the Day of Resurrection.) This Hadith was collected by the Group....

Not knowing something and then posting material you do not understand does not make you any more knowledgeable.

Men amd women who embark on what might seem to you as a perilous journey to destruction arent as naive as you think and certainly have a grasp of the language and Religion.
Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by damascuskyi: 3:34pm On Oct 27, 2017
NotComplaining:


Clearly you grew up having no honor for your loved ones... Pity. But most atheists indulge in apathy... Bipolar?

I grew up in a time when insulting someones mother equalled a busted lip. Maybe time changes, but principles dont.

If you feel the world rotates around your amoral perspectives then put them to the litmus test, go to any non-Muslim and insult his generation. I'm sure you wouldnt dare it, yet you want to test the zeal of religious fundamentalist who are orthodox in belief and action.

You live in your own ideal world, so no your vote does not count.

If you were to enter any institution for the mentally deluded and deranged you will find it filled with many hopeless, like-minded wandering souls, unable to identify their mission in this "purposeless" life.
It's a pity you were brought up with violence, and from the way you sound, one could tell that you grew up a bully because you need to assert violence to drive home your point since violence is the only language you understand. Sorry bro I am not responsible for your misfortune.
Nonetheless, if I decide to take any action to defend my family name, that is on me my mother would never encourage me to spill blood because she was insulted. Same as my religion. Even when Peter used violence to protect Jesus, he was rebuked. But if your god(g) encourages you to chop off the head of those who blaspheme, then you need to ask yourself what kind of god you serve.
Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by Vutseck(m): 4:09pm On Oct 27, 2017
lilcashking:
Allhamdullihai Terrorism have no place in islam

there wouldn't be need opening a thread on terrorism if it has no link with Islam

it is noted that Allah alkbar must be proclaimed before and after they hit their target
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Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by NotComplaining: 5:00pm On Oct 27, 2017
damascuskyi:

It's a pity you were brought up with violence, and from the way you sound, one could tell that you grew up a bully because you need to assert violence to drive home your point since violence is the only language you understand. Sorry bro I am not responsible for your misfortune.
Nonetheless, if I decide to take any action to defend my family name, that is on me my mother would never encourage me to spill blood because she was insulted. Same as my religion. Even when Peter used violence to protect Jesus, he was rebuked. But if your god(g) encourages you to chop off the head of those who blaspheme, then you need to ask yourself what kind of god you serve.

Are you trying to claim xtianity, an offshoot of judaism is non violent and preaches tolerance for blaspheme? If that be your claim, you are truly deluded.

How many failed crusades were launched against heathens? What does excomunnication mean? How were blasphemers and heretics prosecuted?

You need to stop spewing ignorance and kiss the truth.
Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by abduljabbar4(m): 5:02pm On Oct 27, 2017
Egein:

You're a zilch-witted fool! This post is not about Christianity, it's about the violent Islamic religion. Of course, Christianity, through history, thrived on terrorism and violence also; but Islam takes the biscuit! Next time, stay within the topic's scope; don't deviate. The topic is an enquiry re the Qur'an and its support for suicide bombing, so why are you talking about Christianity? Your parents must be siblings, cos you're quite imbecilic! Quote me again if you're mad!

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Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by emmygzy(m): 5:10pm On Oct 27, 2017
abduljabbar4:


Christianity contains more violence than the Quran. In fact if you go through its history you will be shocked

haha! Which history? Jesus never killed to propagate Christianity, his 12 disciples too, no record showed they killed to propagate Christianity. On a contrary, Mohammed killed and assassinate to propagate Islam, his disciple, abubakr is even worse, a serial killer and war monger. Get that into your skull.
Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by Nobody: 5:11pm On Oct 27, 2017
jidxin:



pls explain d 72 virgins

also explain why m
proph mohammad said he doesnt know weda hez going to heaven or hell

further clarify why it was written in quoran dat all muslims will go to hell first but dey will later be saved by the dark sport on their fore head.......i know u re a muslim scholar. pls explain
Lol. Pls show me where you saw that o biko. Be saying things you don't know! Outrageous!!!

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Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by Egein(m): 5:21pm On Oct 27, 2017
abduljabbar4:


You are brain dead. So what do you have to say about the bloody christian crusades? didnt they do that in the name of their lords? Thank God you even acknowledged that there are Christian terrorist groups. That means you have absolutely no moral right to accuse Islam. Dakiki dabba
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Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by abduljabbar4(m): 6:07pm On Oct 27, 2017
emmygzy:


haha! Which history? Jesus never killed to propagate Christianity, his 12 disciples too, no record showed they killed to propagate Christianity. On a contrary, Mohammed killed and assassinate to propagate Islam, his disciple, abubakr is even worse, a serial killer and war monger. Get that into your skull.

Do you have any knowledge about the atrocities of your god and the massacres that he ordered?
Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by yazach: 7:19pm On Oct 27, 2017
Rashduct4luv:


Are you sure the verses has errors or it's your brain that has error?

Check and recheck! it should be the latter.

his brain needs to be formatted
Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by Rashduct4luv(m): 7:48pm On Oct 27, 2017
NotComplaining:


Not knowing something and then posting material you do not understand does not make you any more knowledgeable.

Men amd women who embark on what might seem to you as a perilous journey to destruction arent as naive as you think and certainly have a grasp of the language and Religion.

I see no correlation in your post and mine! Are you sure you are in the right thread? Abeg, look for someone else to step on.
Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by emmygzy(m): 6:53am On Oct 28, 2017
abduljabbar4:


Do you have any knowledge about the atrocities of your god and the massacres that he ordered?
lol. Haha, so it's not the same God again, sebi Mohammed said it's the same God that created Adam that we're serving and even mention Jesus in the Quran and how is Israelites war to protect themselves relates to Christianity, they were not fighting for religion. If enemy wants to attack them, they simply ask God that weather they will win and he will tell them and they will go and finish their enemies. You're a confuse being. Our prophet never killed, likewise his disciples, while yours killed to impose the religion on people, the results is those Islamic countries in the middle east and north Africa. Islam has killed people more than any other religion. Killer religion.
Re: Islamic Ruling On Blowing Oneself Up by abduljabbar4(m): 7:08am On Oct 28, 2017
emmygzy:
lol. Haha, so it's not the same God again, sebi Mohammed said it's the same God that created Adam that we're serving and even mention Jesus in the Quran and how is Israelites war to protect themselves relates to Christianity, they were not fighting for religion. If enemy wants to attack them, they simply ask God that weather they will win and he will tell them and they will go and finish their enemies. You're a confuse being. Our prophet never killed, likewise his disciples, while yours killed to impose the religion on people, the results is those Islamic countries in the middle east and north Africa. Islam has killed people more than any other religion. Killer religion.

Dont be silly. Is Islam not the symbol of violence? so why are you shying away from the crimes of your god? The god that sent bears to kill young kids for mocking a bald man. So did he use weather when he sent the Israelites to kill the innocent Canaanites and rrape their virgins? Muhammed was never this evil and animalistic

Your bloodsucking religion also led to the death of many scientists for contradicting your buy bull and during the 17th century you killed millions of people in the name of crusades. killers

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