Dominoifet:

Coaching in the game of football and playing the ball are two different things. Maybe he could be an exception who knows?

~Bluetooth:

all political nairalanders are politicians.how does that sound?.politics itself is a career and that distinguish it from some of us who only made political comments.

tkb417:

yes, different
Sir Alex ferguson was a very good striker and he became a successful coach.

Im sure you know Zola, Tony Adams, Roy Keane, Ole Gunner Solksjaer, Pep Guordiola, Lauren Blanc, Rijkaard, Zico, Stephen Kesi, Daniel Amokachi.  .   .  . i can list a 1000 footballers who turned a coach

nothing stops Soyinka from going a notch better than sitting on the fence and trying to actively be involved in shaping the course of 9ja
its a laudable move and ill support with all i have

biina:

U don carry your manU fanboism come enter politics.
SAF a very good striker?
wetin im accomplish as a striker? how many times did he play for the scottish NT?
I beg carry your Useless Obertan behind comot jare

Yes! Thank God! , I can now start voting in Nigeria, I was forced to vote in 1983 when I was still under the voting age in Nigeria by my uncle who was an NPN chairman of our town then, I remember filling a whole ballot box alone inside our room that day, I cried afterward because although my uncle was a staunched NPN member but my interest was with the UPN and I knew I could not vote because of my age, I was 12yrs, yet I was forced to vote, I actually filled a whole ballot box alone.

netsurf:

Yes! Thank God! , I can now start voting in Nigeria, I was forced to vote in 1983 when I was still under the voting age in Nigeria by my uncle who was an NPN chairman of our town then, I remember filling a whole ballot box alone inside our room that day, I cried afterward because although my uncle was a staunched NPN member but my interest was with the UPN and I knew I could not vote because of my age, I was 12yrs, yet I was forced to vote, I actually filled a whole ballot box alone.

Since that day, I swore never to vote under that circumstances again, I was going to change that stance when Abiola came up but I stood my grounds.

Now, if truly, prof. wole has formed a political party, I will be willing to vote, we need to root out the infidels called PDP in this country.

Dr Know:

Sometimes I wonder  if Nairaland is not a breeding ground for dumbwitted nonentities judging by the above posts.
Prof Wole Soyinka is a Nigerian who has every right to form a political party. What is wrong for a critic to forrm a party from which platform he could legitimately mount a strong opposition to the excesses of the so powerful PDP brigand? Change will never come if the polity is dominated by these self - centered greedy bastar.ds

tkb417:

apart from the responsibilities bestowed on Soyinka as a nobel prize winner, all he does full time is politics
yes hes a politician full time. He has always been a member of pressure groups in Nigeria, he was the head of FRSC a long time ago, he was at the vanguard of people that wanted Abacha ousted and you say hes not a politician?
i laff in egba. U dont know what ure saying hombre.

The man has only take it a step further by forming a party, all he should now do is bring intellectuals into the party and we'll be ready to vote PDP outta power.

biina:

where are talking about defining 'politician' and not 'politic'. Whats next, everyone that doctors something, is a doctor?
Provide a definition for the word 'politician' and stop trying to get in thru the back door. Abi na u create the word?

FYI, a more detail description from wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politician):

A politician or political leader (from Greek "polis" is an individual who is involved in influencing public decision making. This includes people who hold decision-making positions in government, and people who seek those positions, whether by means of election, coup d'état, appointment, electoral fraud, conquest, right of inheritance  (see also: divine right) or other means. Politics is not limited to governance  through public office. Political offices may also be held in corporations, and other entities that are governed by self-defined political processes.

Considered a politician
* In a state, a member of the executive branch of government, or the office of Head of State, as well as the legislative branch, and regional and local levels of government.
* Any person influencing group opinions in his or her favor can be termed a politician. For example, a worker participating in office politics is a politician, but only so far as the operations of his or her workplace are concerned.
* Some law enforcement officers, such as sheriffs, and many judges who are elected or appointed because of their political views or popularity.

Not considered a politician
* Members of government who serve purely functional roles, such as bureaucrats.
* Members of the judicial branch, law enforcement, and the military are not usually regarded as being politicians since they are generally executing or adjudicating established law and custom.
* Ordinary citizens with the power to vote cannot properly be called politicians even though they can participate in group decision-making. A politician participates in public debate that leads to a group decision being reached, while a voter is simply responding to that debate.


So please provide a source that supports your definition of a politician.

biina:

where are talking about defining 'politician' and not 'politic'. Whats next, everyone that doctors something, is a doctor?
Provide a definition for the word 'politician' and stop trying to get in thru the back door. Abi na u create the word?

FYI, a more detail description from wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politician):

A politician or political leader (from Greek "polis" is an individual who is involved in influencing public decision making. This includes people who hold decision-making positions in government, and people who seek those positions, whether by means of election, coup d'état, appointment, electoral fraud, conquest, right of inheritance  (see also: divine right) or other means. Politics is not limited to governance  through public office. Political offices may also be held in corporations, and other entities that are governed by self-defined political processes.

Considered a politician
* In a state, a member of the executive branch of government, or the office of Head of State, as well as the legislative branch, and regional and local levels of government.
* Any person influencing group opinions in his or her favor can be termed a politician. For example, a worker participating in office politics is a politician, but only so far as the operations of his or her workplace are concerned.
* Some law enforcement officers, such as sheriffs, and many judges who are elected or appointed because of their political views or popularity.

Not considered a politician
* Members of government who serve purely functional roles, such as bureaucrats.
* Members of the judicial branch, law enforcement, and the military are not usually regarded as being politicians since they are generally executing or adjudicating established law and custom.
* Ordinary citizens with the power to vote cannot properly be called politicians even though they can participate in group decision-making. A politician participates in public debate that leads to a group decision being reached, while a voter is simply responding to that debate.


So please provide a source that supports your definition of a politician.

Kilode?!:

@ biina I have provided as much explanation and sources as I can, You don't have to agree. I stand by what I posted earlier.

BUT, I disagree with your description of Soyinka as a bureaucrat at FRSC, the Max Weber(father of Bureaucracy) definition of a bureaucrat is more of a career, public official, or a professional with a technical knowledge of a field or office, that FRSC job was a political appointment. Soyinka was not a road safety Professional.

As to his bringing a menace by forming the Pyrates, that is just delving into urban myth, as far as I know, he formed a student organisation infused with political and social ideals to fight for what he sees as an injustice, he was not the first to form a student fraternity, it is unfair for us to equate that with student cultism and not recognize that similar student fraternities exists in universities all over the world doing good works by giving students an avenue to develop their leadership skills, network, participate and push for social causes they believe in.

There is no sensible correlation between Soyinka forming the Pyrates and the unfortunate metamorphosis of some Nigerian students organisations and Student fraternities into banditry, violence and pure hooliganism, it's like condemning an inventor simply because people use his/her technology and ideas to perpetrate
evil and fraud.

Also, good followers of US judicial politics know that Supreme court justices are sometimes full fledge politicians, a recent example is retired Supreme court justice Sandra Day O'connor who was twice elected to the Arizona state senate, there are other examples, you can look it up on your own. Politics of the US judiciary is a major part in the study of US Jurispudence.

Urban myth? Pyrates was the first confraternity, and even though their initial goals were lofty and noble, they left the door open for miscreants to abuse the opportunity they created. He should dedicate himself to kicking those miscreant out and closing that door.

Wrong. No pyrates = No bucaneers = No airlords! The idea of confraternity was foreign, and like most imported things in naija, was adopted poorly.
I will condemn any inventor who creates a weapon of destruction and does not restrict who has access to it. Soyinka and co let those miscreants in.
The right analogy is that of some one who gets a gun permit and buys a gun, only to leave it unguarded and let a criminal use it in a murder.  The owner of the gun can be charged for negligent homicide.

Seems you miss the word 'entire'  

trust_me:

let me first thank Dr know and Kilode,  THANK YOU

what is wrong with some of these nairalanders? who,truly, are a good reflection of many Nigerians. Nigerians are born complainers. you do, they complain,  you dont, they complain. what solution have you put beside your criticisms? NONE. really  i dont get it.

what do you people really want? you want to battle over the true meaning of the word 'politician' or do you really want change. do you want PDP to continue to flow unopposed or do you want a party  that can challenge it 'man to man'.
come to think of it, who ma be saint? even you wey dey complain about government day and night, you might even be worse. how many times you don pay your way thru? na only u fit answer that one.

ma point is: wole soyinka is no saint and he does not claim to be one. if he steps into government he will still not be one. he will still have some of his selfish desires to settle. but if he works for the masses, runs an open government, settles some of our aching needs, what more will we want? the fact that fashola, (or amaechi or peter obi)  is working for the people doesnt mean they are completely free of all fraud. they might still be funding their end small small but no one is complaining because eye can see that they are working for the people.
the bottom line is WE ARE TIRED, WE ARE FED UP, WE ARE SICK TO OUR STOMACHS with this political recycling, with unopposed corrupt leadership, with tea drinking and glass clinking and conference-holding politicians. all they are known for is TALK.
corruption will not be cleansed overnight, but people will be held accountable for their actions, they will be made to face the consequences of their actions. that is the beginning.
Wole does not even need to run for any position, i will prefer him bringing on board people that have worked and made an impact in their political endeavourswas soyinka forming into the party so that they can build an extremely strong opposition and i am not talking about those political pro, stitutes who change parties like they change their underwear.

davmor:

I am a member of the Soyinka's political party and our aim is to format Ñigeria totaly.