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| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:15am On Aug 27, 2014 |
agaugust: 2 Likes
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| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:22am On Aug 27, 2014 |
agaugust: Hawk jet is British made, South Africa imported CKD parts and assembled them, Togo and Congo can do that too. Thats how you are building your Gun boat. So what is the difference? And no, they could not Olifant tank is a British made tank, South Africa imported it and later upgraded, anybody can weld new metals around an existing MBT tank. Im not talking about the Olifant, and we put composite armor on when we upgraded it, not more steel. Im talking about pic 2 South Africa got Israel to help them build a nuclear bomb, not a missile, South Africa NEVER built any ICBM. What is pic related? Yeah, its as close to an ICBM as we needed at the time. Yes, the Jews designed it, but we improved it to the point where we were getting ranges on it that they could only dream of. And we had limited Isrealy help with our Nukes, and unlike Nigeria, we actually had Nukes and still have the facilities and skills to build them again. Over-rated defence industry of ANC Republic.... Which is among the 20 biggest arms manufacturers in the world I just d.e.m.olished all your posts in 5 minutes Maybe Nigeria should have a viable finished product, and then you can come post here.
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| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:26am On Aug 27, 2014 |
Make way, plebs Best Navy in sub-saharan Africa coming through 1 Like
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| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Donian007: 3:06am On Aug 27, 2014 |
patches689:HOHOHOHO! My boy it seems you know little or nothing about NIGERIA-BRITAIN relationship. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Helghast: 5:56am On Aug 27, 2014 |
[quote author=agaugust][/quote]lol this guy is hilarious |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 6:51am On Aug 27, 2014 |
agaugust: Exactly what is it that you are trying to protect from your rag tag army? We are not convinced chief, not at all. You know well that BH has hijacked a lot of your equipment and hardwares. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Helghast: 6:59am On Aug 27, 2014 |
*Unrelated to topic* Y'all should checkout the U.S navy seal film 'Act of Valor' and the French Special forces film 'Forces Spéciales' Cool movies. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 7:28am On Aug 27, 2014 |
agaugust: SA IS NOT SHIPPING ANYTHING IN THE COUNTRY FROM FINLAND. THE ONLY THING THAT THEY SHIPPED IN WAS JUST A PIECE OF PAPER WITH A PATRIA DRAWING. REMEMBER THAT SA HAS AN EXPERIENCE OF BUILDING HARD SKINS. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 7:42am On Aug 27, 2014 |
agaugust: ARE YOU SURE THAT ALGERIA WILL DEFEAT SA. NOPE, I DONT THINK SO, ALGERIA CAN NEVER DEFEAT SA AT HOME. THE ONLY TIME SA WILL BE DEFEATED BY ALGERIA WILL BE IN ALGERIA. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 8:16am On Aug 27, 2014 |
Donian007: HOHOHOHO! My boy it seems you know little or nothing about NIGERIA-BRITAIN relationship. When all else fails, pull the 'hater card'. And when challenged, 'laugh in tears' like 'ho ho ho ho'. Yes, clover-denone. We see you. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 8:18am On Aug 27, 2014 |
agaugust: YOU ARE GETTING HELP FROM CHINA TO BUILD YOUR WARSHIP YET YOU CLAIM THAT NIGERIA IS BUILDING THE FIRST MODERN WARSHIP IN AFRICA. SO NOW ON THE SAME BREATH WHAT IS WRONG WITH SA TO DO THE SAME. SOUTH AFRICA BUILT ICBM, FINISH AND KLAAR. GO AND CHECK THE RSA TYPE MISSILES. 2 Likes |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 8:21am On Aug 27, 2014 |
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/167337-boko-haram-apc-tackles-jonathan-over-escape-of-nigerian-soldiers-into-cameroon.html#sthash.AlUWj24h.dpbs The All Progressives Congress (APC) has described as an unprecedented national embarrassment the increasing seizure of Nigerian towns by the terrorist group Boko Haram and the reported fleeing of 480 Nigerian soldiers to Cameroon during an attack on a military base in Gamboru-Ngala on Monday. In a statement issued in Lagos on Tuesday by its National Publicity Secretary, Lai Mohammed, the party called on President Goodluck Jonathan to urgently address Nigerians on the worsening security situation in the northern part of the country that has allowed Boko Haram to proclaim its rule over a part of the nation’s territory. It said in the face of the biggest threat to Nigeria’s unity and territorial integrity since the country’s civil war, President Jonathan must also put partisanship aside and rally the nation against Boko Haram, which by all indications seems to be getting bolder and stronger, to such an extent that the group is now hoisting its flag over parts of the nation’s territory. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 8:21am On Aug 27, 2014 |
agaugust: . THE LAST TIME I CHECKED CONGO WAS NOT SA. 1 Like |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 8:24am On Aug 27, 2014 |
Kak military. http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2014/08/26/nigeria-soldiers-who-fled-into-cameroon-head-home MAIDUGURI, Nigeria (AP) — Nigerian government soldiers, who witnesses said fled into neighboring Cameroon during a clash with a large number of Islamic fighters of Boko Haram, handed over their weapons to Cameroonian authorities and were on their way back to Nigeria, the Nigerian defense headquarters said. Basuma Muhammed, a resident of Gamboru-Ngala, a town neighboring Cameroon where the clash took place Monday, said soldiers joined hundreds of civilians who fled into Cameroon. Cameroon army spokesman Didier Badjek, in an interview with the BBC, put the number of Nigerian soldiers who fled across the border at 480. Nigeria's defense headquarters said in a statement posted on the Internet Monday that the soldiers were on their way back to Nigeria after following protocol by handing over "their weapons in order to assure the friendly country that they were not on a hostile mission." Initially, the soldiers in the town were able to repel an attack by Boko Haram, killing many of their fighters, Muhammed said. "But hours after the attack, a bigger number of the Boko Haram gunmen arrived from the other side of the town and engaged the soldiers who could not stand their superior force and had to join us in running into Cameroon." 3 Likes
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| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 8:42am On Aug 27, 2014 |
Cameroonian authorities have repatriated about 480 Nigerian troops who had previously fled into the country after a fierce gun battle with Boko Haram insurgents. They arrived in the country through Mubi, Adamawa State. A resident of the town (name withheld) told the Hausa service of the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) that the troops arrived in Mubi, some with guns and some without guns while others were with armoured personnel carriers (APC). http://allafrica.com/stories/201408270223.html?aa_source=mf-hdlns |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 8:48am On Aug 27, 2014 |
agaugust: BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!! JAPAN MANUFACTURE CARS BUT IT STILL IMPORTS MORE OF THEM. SAME AS AMERICA MAKES MRAPS BUT STILL IMPORTS MORE OF THEM. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 8:50am On Aug 27, 2014 |
THE BEST HEALTH SYSTEM IN THE WORLD....VIVA NIGERIA ACCORDING TO @AUGUSTUS...THE JACK OF ALL TRADES AND MASTER OF NOTHING Nigeria was free of Ebola until the late Patrick Sawyer, the Liberian-American, imported Ebola into Nigeria on July 20. Mr Sawyer was reported to have been terribly ill on his flight and was rushed to the First Consultant Hospital Obalende, Lagos, where he was diagnosed as having Ebola. He died on July 24. From that single imported case of Ebola, Nigeria has had, till date, 14 confirmed cases of Ebola (including the 2 cases confirmed today out of the secondary contacts), out of which 5 deaths [including the index (imported) case] was recorded. 5 confirmed cases of Ebola made full recovery and have been discharged while up to 213 contacts are on follow up. Few days ago, Nigeria’s Health Minister, Prof Onyebuchi Chukwu described the way Nigeria has managed the imported case of Ebola so far as a "success story". With all due respect, I beg to disagree with the Prof. I think we FAILED and I will point out the different levels of failure below. 1. The index case of Ebola was already sick when he arrived the Lagos Airport on July 20. If the Port Health Authorities were alive to their duties on that fateful day, perhaps the late Sawyer would have been quarantined immediately, especially since there was already a widely reported ongoing epidemic of Ebola in Liberia since March this year. Therefore, the Port Health Authority FAILED at this level. 2. Late Patrick Sawyer was rushed to First Consultant Hospital, Lagos, on arrival. It was reported that Sawyer was initially assessed and treated for malaria, hepatitis, etc. The assessment and diagnosis of Ebola came later. The junior and senior doctors that managed Sawyer at the First Consultant Hospital FAILED at this level. With history of acute fever (plus other symptoms) and recent arrival from Liberia, the diagnosis at presentation ought to have been ebola viral disease (EVD) UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE. However, the hospital should be commended for making the diagnosis of EVD eventually and alerting the Lagos health authorities. Otherwise, things could have been worse. 3. The failure of the the First Consultant Hospital to make the diagnosis of ebola promptly can also be linked to failure of the state and federal health authorities to sensitize the private and public hospitals on the possibility of ebola outbreak in Nigeria considering the fact that neighbouring west African countries have been battling with ebola epidemic since March this year. The state and federal health authorities FAILED in this respect. 4. The other level of failure is the way we have managed the primary contacts of the index case. I believe that the primary contacts ought to have been categorized into high risk and low risk contacts. The low risk contacts will include, for instance, all those that flew in the same aircraft with Mr Sawyer. The high risk contacts should include the person who sat next to Mr Sawyer in the aircraft, those who helped him all the way to the Lagos hospital and all the health workers that took care of him when his condition was still unknown. All those who fall into the high risk group ought to have been quarantined compulsorily immediately because they are at high risk of EVB. On the other hand, those who fall into the low risk group can be followed up at their homes since they are at low risk of developing EVD. This strategy has the following benefits: - since we cannot quarantine all the primary contacts because of logistic challenges, those at high risk, who are few, can be quarantined. - high risk individuals who develop EVD while on quarantine will not transfer the disease to secondary contacts. That way, secondary contacts will be minimal or zero. If this strategy was adopted, the 213 secondary contacts that are currently on follow up and the 2 confirmed cases of EVD among secondary contacts would not have arisen. The above suggested strategy is better than the strategy adopted by Nigeria's health authorities, which is simply to follow up all contacts from home. This has led to what looks like a cascade of 213 secondary contacts and 2 confirmed cases of EBV among the secondary contacts. And God forbid, if we continue this way, we will soon be talking of tertiary contacts, quaternary contacts, and so on, with resultant ballooning morbidity and mortality. In conclusion, if we have this level of mortality and morbidity from a single imported case of Ebola, just imagine what will happen if, God forbid, we have infiltration of several Ebola cases into Nigeria. Note: this article is a critique of the system, and does not necessarily suggest the author would have done better than the various actors under the same circumstance. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 8:50am On Aug 27, 2014 |
THE BEST HEALTH SYSTEM IN THE WORLD....VIVA NIGERIA ACCORDING TO @AUGUSTUS...THE JACK OF ALL TRADES AND MASTER OF NOTHING....THIS ARTICLE WAS WRITTEN BY A NIGERIAN Nigeria was free of Ebola until the late Patrick Sawyer, the Liberian-American, imported Ebola into Nigeria on July 20. Mr Sawyer was reported to have been terribly ill on his flight and was rushed to the First Consultant Hospital Obalende, Lagos, where he was diagnosed as having Ebola. He died on July 24. From that single imported case of Ebola, Nigeria has had, till date, 14 confirmed cases of Ebola (including the 2 cases confirmed today out of the secondary contacts), out of which 5 deaths [including the index (imported) case] was recorded. 5 confirmed cases of Ebola made full recovery and have been discharged while up to 213 contacts are on follow up. Few days ago, Nigeria’s Health Minister, Prof Onyebuchi Chukwu described the way Nigeria has managed the imported case of Ebola so far as a "success story". With all due respect, I beg to disagree with the Prof. I think we FAILED and I will point out the different levels of failure below. 1. The index case of Ebola was already sick when he arrived the Lagos Airport on July 20. If the Port Health Authorities were alive to their duties on that fateful day, perhaps the late Sawyer would have been quarantined immediately, especially since there was already a widely reported ongoing epidemic of Ebola in Liberia since March this year. Therefore, the Port Health Authority FAILED at this level. 2. Late Patrick Sawyer was rushed to First Consultant Hospital, Lagos, on arrival. It was reported that Sawyer was initially assessed and treated for malaria, hepatitis, etc. The assessment and diagnosis of Ebola came later. The junior and senior doctors that managed Sawyer at the First Consultant Hospital FAILED at this level. With history of acute fever (plus other symptoms) and recent arrival from Liberia, the diagnosis at presentation ought to have been ebola viral disease (EVD) UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE. However, the hospital should be commended for making the diagnosis of EVD eventually and alerting the Lagos health authorities. Otherwise, things could have been worse. 3. The failure of the the First Consultant Hospital to make the diagnosis of ebola promptly can also be linked to failure of the state and federal health authorities to sensitize the private and public hospitals on the possibility of ebola outbreak in Nigeria considering the fact that neighbouring west African countries have been battling with ebola epidemic since March this year. The state and federal health authorities FAILED in this respect. 4. The other level of failure is the way we have managed the primary contacts of the index case. I believe that the primary contacts ought to have been categorized into high risk and low risk contacts. The low risk contacts will include, for instance, all those that flew in the same aircraft with Mr Sawyer. The high risk contacts should include the person who sat next to Mr Sawyer in the aircraft, those who helped him all the way to the Lagos hospital and all the health workers that took care of him when his condition was still unknown. All those who fall into the high risk group ought to have been quarantined compulsorily immediately because they are at high risk of EVB. On the other hand, those who fall into the low risk group can be followed up at their homes since they are at low risk of developing EVD. This strategy has the following benefits: - since we cannot quarantine all the primary contacts because of logistic challenges, those at high risk, who are few, can be quarantined. - high risk individuals who develop EVD while on quarantine will not transfer the disease to secondary contacts. That way, secondary contacts will be minimal or zero. If this strategy was adopted, the 213 secondary contacts that are currently on follow up and the 2 confirmed cases of EVD among secondary contacts would not have arisen. The above suggested strategy is better than the strategy adopted by Nigeria's health authorities, which is simply to follow up all contacts from home. This has led to what looks like a cascade of 213 secondary contacts and 2 confirmed cases of EBV among the secondary contacts. And God forbid, if we continue this way, we will soon be talking of tertiary contacts, quaternary contacts, and so on, with resultant ballooning morbidity and mortality. In conclusion, if we have this level of mortality and morbidity from a single imported case of Ebola, just imagine what will happen if, God forbid, we have infiltration of several Ebola cases into Nigeria. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 9:17am On Aug 27, 2014 |
agaugust: There are no civilians in GWOZA. Damboa strategy created capital damage and was very costly. Today as we speak Damboa is no more. The same strategy will not work in Gwoza. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 11:02am On Aug 27, 2014 |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BlackBaron: 11:14am On Aug 27, 2014 |
Still arguing?... My own take is that no one in the Nigerian Armed Forces is taking notes and developing new technologies. Most of SA's in house hardware were developed while in the middle of the Bush Wars. Same can't be said for us... 1 Like |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:11pm On Aug 27, 2014 |
patches689: [size=14pt] Bwahahaahha  Patches Patrikoko does not know what a ZSU-23-4 is.... See his own photo of ZSU-23-4... An old ancient generation 'light tank' that is NOT used by Nigerian army !!!! Imported by Boko Haram from wherever in this world Go use google d1ck.Head See why your girlfriend like me so much Patrick has the usual undernourished South African brain [/size]. 1 Like
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| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 1:16pm On Aug 27, 2014 |
agaugust:Nope,did you see the weapons your soldiers left behind? |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 1:17pm On Aug 27, 2014 |
[quote author=agaugust][/quote] Lmaaoooooo!!  . Let the facts sink in. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 1:22pm On Aug 27, 2014 |
patches689: Madam Maxeke - one of the most feared submarines in Africa, confirmed by NATOThis remind me the fact that South Africa is the only country in Africa that produces submarine periscopes. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:23pm On Aug 27, 2014 |
. [size=14pt] 480 Nigerian Army Heroes Invade Cameroon.... As NA Soldiers Pursue Fleeing Boko Haram Cowards Nigeria displays world class army tactical maneuver.. [/size] Director of Defence Information, Maj. -Gen Chris Olukolade, said the soldiers strayed into Cameroon and therefore were not “deserters.” "The presence of the Nigerian troops in Cameroun was as a result of a sustained battle between the troops and the terrorists around the borders with Cameroun which saw the Nigerian troops charging through the borders in a tactical manoeuvre." Badjek told the British Broadcasting Corporation on Monday that the disarmed Nigerian soldiers were being accommodated in schools in Maroua, about 80 kilometres from the Nigerian border. “But some soldiers later emerged with their Cameroonian counterparts and continued the battle with the insurgents. But in Abuja, Olukolade told one of our correspondents that the 480 soldiers strayed into Cameroon while in pursuit of the insurgents. He said the soldiers were on their way back to the country and would soon be reunited with their units in the North-East. The army spokesman stated further that it was the standard practice for soldiers who strayed into a foreign but friendly country to be disarmed. “These are normal procedures; when an Army enters a country and are not on a hostile mission; normally, they won’t fight back. The DHQ later issued a statement in which it again explained the presence of Nigerian soldiers in Cameroon. “The presence of the Nigerian troops in Cameroun was as a result of a sustained battle between the troops and the terrorists around the borders with Cameroun which saw the Nigerian troops charging through the borders in a tactical manoeuvre. “Eventually, they found themselves on Camerounian soil. Being allies, the normal protocol of managing such incident demanded that the troops submit their weapons in order to assure the friendly country that they were not on a hostile mission.[/color] http://www.punchng.com/news/bharam-480-nigerian-soldiers-flee-to-cameroon/ . 1 Like
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| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 1:26pm On Aug 27, 2014 |
agaugust:Just go the SAAF museum there's one ICBM on display. The Olifant is South African MBT. |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:30pm On Aug 27, 2014 |
MikeZA: Just go the SAAF museum there's one ICBM on display. The Olifant is South African MBT. Dud dead ICBM, never flew, which continents did your inter-continental ballistic missile fly across? Anybody can weld long tube shaped metals together for a museum and claim ICBM that never crossed any continent....propaganda . 1 Like |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:32pm On Aug 27, 2014 |
MikeZA: This remind me the fact that South Africa is the only country in Africa that produces submarine periscopes. You could not make the submarine itself 1 Like |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:34pm On Aug 27, 2014 |
MikeZA: Nope,did you see the weapons your soldiers left behind? Sure SANDF left them behind, I see no Nigerian service number or ensign on any weapon in that hollywood video 1 Like |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 1:37pm On Aug 27, 2014 |
agaugust:Nope,that's the Shilka SPAAG your army still uses them. . |
| Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 1:41pm On Aug 27, 2014 |
agaugust:Israel has ICBMs which continents did the Israeli ICBMS fly across? LOL!!!b Desperate. |
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