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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 12:23am On Mar 03, 2015
Kukawa,geri and gujba in yobe state have been liberated by nigerian troops,cordon and search operations are still ongoing.
[Source: DHQ]

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:11am On Mar 03, 2015
agaugust:


15 million South Africans have never seen one electric light bulb in their wretched lives.

35 million South Africans survive on candles, thanks to ESKOM daily punishment of load shedding tonguetongue

Nothing will change for many years to come, NYSC...Now Your Suffering Continues....

More Nigerians have never seen a light buld than there are actual South Africans

Nigeria produces ;less than 3% of the power South Africa does

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:12am On Mar 03, 2015
agaugust:


You were here when Southies posted 3 different OPV options for SAN to buy, they confessed not sure which on your broke navy may buy....SANDF is broke.

You envy Nigeria's new purchases especially our missile armed drones that South Africa will not have tonguetongue
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Because, unlike Nigeria, we do not have any arms embargoes placed upon us.

The tender is open and there are many bidders (6-7 shipyards have been named) the winner will be announced by the middle of the year
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:17am On Mar 03, 2015
EVarn post=31247231

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Kukawa,geri and gujba in yobe state have been liberated by nigerian troops,cordon and search operations are still ongoing.

[Source: DHQ]

[size=20pt]90 % of all land combat....Nigerian army !

99.99% of all air combat....Nigerian air force

We own this war, we control this war, we order Chad, Niger and Cameroon around on border lines !

90 % on land...99.99 % in air, giant slice belongs to Nigeria

We rule Africa....Giant Nigeria

We will soon answer the call to help mighty Egypt in Libya to delete ISIS !

We are Nigeria....Giant of Africa...no controversy !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by overhypedsteve(m): 3:24am On Mar 03, 2015
agaugust:


[size=20pt]90 % of all land combat....Nigerian army !

99.99% of all air combat....Nigerian air force

We own this war, we control this war, we order Chad, Niger and Cameroon around on border lines !

90 % on land...99.99 % in air, giant slice belongs to Nigeria

We rule Africa....Giant Nigeria

We will soon answer the call to help mighty Egypt in Libya to delete ISIS !

We are Nigeria....Giant of Africa...no controversy !
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lol. you almost got me running around tables singing gyration songs cus of this your post. nice one bro.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:46am On Mar 03, 2015
agaugust:


$2 billion dollars was released by Nigerian president 6 months ago specially for new weapons purchase only, and after the release, NAF announced it will buy JF-17 Thunder.

No argument needed!

SANDF is reported broke and will soon retrench soldiers en-mass, plus self imposed embargo on new weapons purchases.

Now go jump into river orange with a bag of Dangote cement strapped to your back tonguetongue
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How is the $2 billion released from your government different from allocations made by our minister of defence?

How could you contradict yourself so hard?

SANDF is not broke - the budget has gone up - is not retrenching soldiers (it just recruited 4000 college graduates)

It has continued with arms aquisitions - Badger IFV, 6 new vessels, new state-of-the-art heavyweight torpedoes, new patrol aircraft for the 2015/2016 financial year, A-darter production, GBADS Phase 3, Marlin Development, upgrades to Rooikat and G6 etc etc etc

Augustus, I demand that you stop trolling this thread and pulling down standards with troll posts
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:46am On Mar 03, 2015
agaugust:


Thanks for quoting that United Nations say the Hind is better.

Ukraine flies older generation Hinds , but Nigeria flies new generation 2014 Hind E versions with the most modern and sophisticated Russian avionics
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Ok

So how are the avionics better than the Rooivalk?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:48am On Mar 03, 2015
agaugust:


I said the airframe design is obsolete and I stand by it, a 20 year old design is obsolete today. Tell me a Toyota Camry 1995 model is a modern design

Hinds Airframe is from the 1960's - so well done on destroying your own argument



agaugust:

I posted photos of both Rooivalk and modern version of Hind for you to compare, I said look at the tyres/landing gear, but as a life-time member of the 3-blind-mice society of South Africa, you failed to see that the obsolete Rooivalks tyres hang outside permanently like an old horses' dîck, while the modern Hinds tyres are invisible as a retractable landing gear.

How does a lack a retractable gears make it obsolete?

You post like a child.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:48am On Mar 03, 2015
agaugust:


SAAF has no A-Darter in service today.

By the time you buy any single A-Darter, NAF JF-17 will have BVR missiles with 100 km range so your unlucky Gripen jet will not even be able to launch any of it's unlucky 22 km range A-Darter missile before it gets shot down by NAF JF-17 Devastating Thunder jets
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A-darter goes into production this year

JF-17 is a dream for you
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:52am On Mar 03, 2015
agaugust:


Modern Hind wheels are now retractable, fool.

Your Rooivalk fixed wheels will break of by force in a crash land.

A-129 is a 1980 design, so you can compare your obsolete Rooivalk....birds of same feather flock together.

Yes, and a Hind will break its airframe if it crash lands. Rooivalks wheels will help cushion the fall.

The Hind is an older design than the Rooivalk - by allmost 20 years - you imbvecile

agaugust:

Apache landing gear is underbelly NOT glued to wing area airframe....open your eyes...don't be like the 3-blind-mice

And so? How is this relevant? How does it make it obsolete?

agaugust:

Rooivalk helicopter airframe is obsolete design, alone has scared every potential customer....NOBODY IS GONNA FVCKING BUY YA FVCKING OLD ROOIVALK TURKEY tonguetonguetonguetongue
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Rooivalk bid for Turkey failed because Turkey had an embargo on French defense components and the Rooivalk contains components from french engine manufacturers.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:55am On Mar 03, 2015
agaugust:


Nigeria and Russia now own new Hind E versions with reduced IR signature from the exhaust. Hind E has changed the Hind into a far better helicopter than Rooivalk will ever be.

Multirole aircraft are always superior to single role aircraft

Hinds are multirole, Rooivalk is a single role waste of money....$40 million fvcking dollars, price of Su-30 Flanker jet !
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Russia and Nigeria do not use the same Hinds - you use the monkey model

Hind is nothing to be proud of, neither is the Russian airforce

Rooivalk is a dedicated attack helicopter - every single gram of it is designed with one thing in mind - attack

Hind is not purpose built, it is not specifically designed. Thus, as an attack helicopter, it is inferior.

How is it inferior?

- worse performance stats, bigger traget, cant hover in combat, smaller weapons payload, poor cabin lay-out, no crew redundancy, no slaved weapons, poor agility, poor situational awareness
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:56am On Mar 03, 2015
agaugust:


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South Africa may, likely, planning to, trying to....Blah Blah Blah.

Do you know what Nigeria too is planning? AWACS aircraft! Just waiting to confirm details from inside sources.

Today, SAAF has NO single A-Darter and MARLIN missile does NOT even exist.

Case closed[/size]
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Nigeria has not announced aquisition of AWACS and has not announced that AWACS is going into production.

Both have been done for the A-darter.

Deal with it
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:57am On Mar 03, 2015
agaugust:


I never disputed that. I always said NAF and SAAF are stuck with short range missiles with equal air to air power
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I have shown (dozens of times) that this is false.

Gripen is superior to the F-7, our missiles are superior to yours.

Air-to-air power is heavily in our advantage.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:58am On Mar 03, 2015
agaugust:


Thanks for stylishly admitting South Africa is afraid of NAF buying JF-17 Thunder especially if a BVR missile comes with it, you go peepee for ya shokoto and pata gringrin

We are not afraid of myths
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:59am On Mar 03, 2015
Henry120:


The Rooivalk is an obsolete French Helicopter. That Helicopter has been involved in 14 failed bids.

That's a record.

How is it obsolete?

Yeah, well, not suprised its bids failed when it only became militarily operational 4 years ago. And the helicopters it was competeing against had decades of operational history.

How it is french?

Dont bother answering, I know that you are unable to substantiate what you say with any proof or evidence whatsoever.

Troll.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:00am On Mar 03, 2015
agaugust:


[size=20pt]90 % of all land combat....Nigerian army !

99.99% of all air combat....Nigerian air force

We own this war, we control this war, we order Chad, Niger and Cameroon around on border lines !

90 % on land...99.99 % in air, giant slice belongs to Nigeria

We rule Africa....Giant Nigeria

We will soon answer the call to help mighty Egypt in Libya to delete ISIS !

We are Nigeria....Giant of Africa...no controversy !
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[citation needed]

Why is it that you start winning as soon as Chad and Cameroon begin offensive operations?

Chad and Cameroon are liberating Nigeria!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:02am On Mar 03, 2015
Henry120:


The Rooivalk is an obsolete French Helicopter. That Helicopter has been involved in 14 failed bids.

That's a record.
what factors led to that? And no it wasn't 14 bids.

Selling attack helicopter is a different ball game, from selling vehicles which even the poorest country can keep them running without the OEM's support.

Obsolete? Yes, the Apache might be ahead in terms of target acquisition or stuff. But in terms of the hardware or flight performance the Rooivalk comes out tops.

Put in mind that sensors and avionics of the Rooivalk can be upgraded.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 6:15am On Mar 03, 2015
Patchesagain:


How is it obsolete?

Yeah, well, not suprised its bids failed when it only became militarily operational 4 years ago. And the helicopters it was competeing against had decades of operational history.

How it is french?

Dont bother answering, I know that you are unable to substantiate what you say with any proof or evidence whatsoever.

Troll.

The only bid I'd say it failed was the Turkish again.

From 1991-94: who would buy an attack helicopter from a country on the brink of civil war? Would the manufacture able to support that system for 20+ years?

1994-99: Asian Financial crises, possibility of SA falling into instability.

2000^ Massive cuts on the defence force the project takes years to mature, Denel even announces that it will halt the development of the system.

If funding remained the same, and Rooivalk was operationalised earlier with all intended systems like radar. More would've been bought.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 7:09am On Mar 03, 2015
Patchesagain:


[citation needed]

Why is it that you start winning as soon as Chad and Cameroon begin offensive operations?

Chad and Cameroon are liberating Nigeria!

Don't be silly! How often do you want to be spoon fed? What does it take to understand that the common borders and escape routes for BH need to be blocked so that death is meted out to them wherever they run to when come under NA's pursuit?

Use your coconut head Mr ********.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 7:16am On Mar 03, 2015
SANDF

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 8:02am On Mar 03, 2015
jln115:

"you have not been to war, you have 0 experience or capability fighting terrorist insurgents of the 21st century. YOU AREN'T QUALIFIED DEBATING MILITARY MATTERS WITH NIGERIANS."
Would you look at that! a another Nigerian boasting about the fact that their in a civil war, if you didnt know its a good thing to be at peace, it means the DEFENCE force is doing a good job DEFENDING the country and safeguarding its boarders and citizens.
Civil war? Where?

Which country fighting a civil war undertakes
general elections?

Soldiers are made in times of crisis. And the reason this insurgency has not destabilize Nigeria is due to the gallantry of the Nigerian military.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:26am On Mar 03, 2015
Patchesagain:


How is it obsolete?

Yeah, well, not suprised its bids failed when it only became militarily operational 4 years ago. And the helicopters it was competeing against had decades of operational history.

How it is french?

Dont bother answering, I know that you are unable to substantiate what you say with any proof or evidence whatsoever.

Troll.


Denel has now decided that the Rooivalk, on whose development the government spent R8bn, is not commercially viable and it will not spend any new money on the helicopters.
Armscor and the defence department will now have to decide whether to subsidise the maintenance of Denel's Rooivalk capability so that it can continue servicing the 12 helicopters bought by the South African Air Force over their 25-year lifespan.
The other option would be for the air force to mothball the helicopters and for the costs to be written off entirely.



"Liebenberg said that after Denel's failure to win the $2bn Turkey tender for 50 helicopters after giving it its best shot, the company realised that it would not be able to sell the Rooivalk anywhere else and that it could not sustain the project commercially."



After 14 failed bids, there is no doubt in my mind that buyers rejected the Helicopter because it is obsolete.





As to how it is French, we've been proving this over the years.

There isn't any proof to show the apartheid regime could independently conceptualise and build an Helicopter.

That Helicopter was built entirely on french expertise, same as on the Super Puma.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 8:36am On Mar 03, 2015
lezz:
Civil war? Where?

Which country fighting a civil war undertakes
general elections?

Soldiers are made in times of crisis. And the reason this insurgency has not destabilize Nigeria is due to the gallantry of the Nigerian military.

Definition of a civil war: a war between citizens of the same country,(thus regardless if you undertake general elections or not)
If im correct most of Boko Harm fighters are Nigerian, are they not?
Conclusion: Nigeria is in a civil war, and you Defence force is doing a poor job protecting your citizens.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Troop101: 8:45am On Mar 03, 2015
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 8:49am On Mar 03, 2015
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 9:18am On Mar 03, 2015
Henry120:


Denel has now decided that the Rooivalk, on whose development the government spent R8bn, is not commercially viable and it will not spend any new money on the helicopters.
Armscor and the defence department will now have to decide whether to subsidise the maintenance of Denel's Rooivalk capability so that it can continue servicing the 12 helicopters bought by the South African Air Force over their 25-year lifespan.
The other option would be for the air force to mothball the helicopters and for the costs to be written off entirely.



"Liebenberg said that after Denel's failure to win the $2bn Turkey tender for 50 helicopters after giving it its best shot, the company realised that it would not be able to sell the Rooivalk anywhere else and that it could not sustain the project commercially."



After 14 failed bids, there is no doubt in my mind that buyers rejected the Helicopter because it is obsolete.





As to how it is French, we've been proving this over the years.

There isn't any proof to show the apartheid regime could independently conceptualise and build an Helicopter.

That Helicopter was built entirely on french expertise, same as on the Super Puma.

Thank you for posting an article years and years old. An article from f*cken 2007!. That decision not to spend any more money was long overuled. This article was even before the lastest block Rooivalk which the airforce currently uses. Denel spent a bunch of money on Rooivalk after this ancient article of yours. Next time do some research before you come running here with a useless article.

Rooivalk only uses French components in it's engine. The airframe, optronics and weapons systems are South African. No amount of your jealousy will change that.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 9:39am On Mar 03, 2015
Nigerian military employ the use of military hovercrafts to ward off boko haram attacks in adamawa state.
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http://leadership.ng/news/414909/73-insurgents-killed-in-failed-boko-haram-konduga-attack
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Military hovercrafts throw bombs into bushes surrounding gombi town in adamawa state.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 9:46am On Mar 03, 2015
saengine:


Thank you for posting an article years and years old. An article from f*cken 2007!. That decision not to spend any more money was long overuled. This article was even before the lastest block Rooivalk which the airforce currently uses. Denel spent a bunch of money on Rooivalk after this ancient article of yours. Next time do some research before you come running here with a useless article.

Rooivalk only uses French components in it's engine. The airframe, optronics and weapons systems are South African. No amount of your jealousy will change that.

It's a 2007 article. So tell us what how things have gone better?

Since the article.........

*The Rooivalk has gone on to fail miserably other bids.

* The Production has since been closed

* The SAAF now only have 10 Helicopters in service for an over 1.2 million KM square area, as a Rooivalk was damaged beyond repair and another used in an institute.

* The Rooivalk again showed it's an expensive piece of obsolete metal, with a high running cost running cost and poor outdated avionics.


The article may have been written in 2007, but it is as up to date as a few seconds ago.

The Rooivalk is more of a french helicopter than South-African. I'm only stating the facts, and understand that it hurts.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 10:06am On Mar 03, 2015
Henry120:

It's a 2007 article. So tell us what how things have gone better?
Since the article.........
*The Rooivalk has gone on to fail miserably other bids.
* The Production has since been closed
* The SAAF now only have 10 Helicopters in service for an over 1.2 million KM square area, as a Rooivalk was damaged beyond repair and another used in an institute.
* The Rooivalk again showed it's an expensive piece of obsolete metal, with a high running cost running cost and poor outdated avionics.
The article may have been written in 2007, but it is as up to date as a few seconds ago.
The Rooivalk is more of a french helicopter than South-African. I'm only stating the facts, and understand that it hurts.

How desperate and jealous can you get?


Your PRIMARY and LEAD argument was that the decision was taken that the Rooivalk is not commercially viable.

Now that you can't hold on to that argument, you desperately try to move in another direction.

Be a man and stick to your guns and battle against this 2014 article below:

[b]Cape Town - Government will push state-owned arms manufacturers Denel to increase production of the Rooivalk attack helicopter, Defence Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula said on Monday.

“We have to push them to do it and by doing so we have to assist them in whatever way to manufacture more because... everybody now wants a Rooivalk and they want a Rooivalk from South Africa,” she told journalists in Cape Town.

“The Rooivalk Attack Helicopter was for the first time deployed by the UN... and played a pivotal role in the demise of the M23 rebel armed group in the eastern part of the DRC,” the minister said.

The UN mission in the Democratic Republic of Congo, known as Monusco, has praised the effectiveness of the attack helicopter. Its success generated interest from elsewhere in the world, meaning the defence industry would have to increase manufacturing capacity.

“Our defence industry has no choice. Even if we did not have the capacity to do some of these things the truth of the matter is wherever you go right now people are talking about the Rooivalk and people would want to order the Rooivalk... so our defence industry must be beefed up, must be assisted as we have been doing,” she said.

Sales of the helicopter would boost the economy and the standing of the country's defence industry.

“I think it's good for the country. It's good for our economy,” the minister said.

“It's good for the defence industry... because there's a lot of competition out there. It's good that they are beginning to identify South Africa as one of those countries that can play a very key role in supplying some of that equipment.”

Sapa[/b]

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 10:22am On Mar 03, 2015
Henry120:


It's a 2007 article. So tell us what how things have gone better?

Since the article.........

*The Rooivalk has gone on to fail miserably other bids.

* The Production has since been closed

* The SAAF now only have 10 Helicopters in service for an over 1.2 million KM square area, as a Rooivalk was damaged beyond repair and another used in an institute.

* The Rooivalk again showed it's an expensive piece of obsolete metal, with a high running cost running cost and poor outdated avionics.


The article may have been written in 2007, but it is as up to date as a few seconds ago.

The Rooivalk is more of a french helicopter than South-African. I'm only stating the facts, and understand that it hurts.

Your article said no further money is to be spent on Rooivalk from 2007. Why post that if it is no longer valid? Production has close since when? Were they still producing Rooivalk airframes when that article was written? You see how you keep talking out your a.ss?

You havent the slightest clue about Rooivalk avionics and when they were upgraded so keep your ignorance to yourself.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dieantwordRSA: 11:09am On Mar 03, 2015
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Boko Haram beheading two men....we're counting its week 1 of March grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

As USA,UK,RSA,Chinese etc..analysists said Boko Haram is a result of SOCIO ECONOMIC PROBLEMS in Nigeria. The north and central Nigeria has the highest POVERTY 80%-90% and Illiteracy rate in Nigeria. cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy People in these areas have never seen an ELECTRIC BULB AND WATER TAPS in their lives .... Source:UNDP,WHO,UN HABITATcheesy grin grin grin grin

As long as these problems remain UNRESOLVED Boko Haram and in the poverty stricken southern states MEND,MASSOB will still exist in Nigeria.
Pity the likes of August and other flat heads are familiar with UNDP,WHO,UN Habitat etc...please see where you stand before making fools of yourselves. cheesy grin grin grin

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by dieantwordRSA: 11:18am On Mar 03, 2015
August
LIVE WITH THIS AND REMEMBER S.A. IS IN THE TOP 15 IN THE WORLD (Electricity production). While Nigeria is at 71....over 55 years of FAILURE AND SHAME. While ya'll are behind in SANITATION AND WATER SUPPLY.

I will post FACTS from UN and other sources as time goes by.
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THIS BOKO HARAM ISSUE HAS EXPOSED YOUR ARMY ON FACEBOOK MOST OF YOUR CITIZENS DONT TRUST U.
Bleep ya'll had to ask small Chad,Cemroon,Niger to save your SORRY FLAT HEAD PITCH BLACK ASS.
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