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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:13pm On May 21, 2015
jln115:


Dude go read the fcking source, its on there in black and white: http://www.military-intellisense.com/air/ah2rooivalk.html: "When the Rooivalk first came out, it was the only helicopter in the world that could fly upside down."

Secondly Your right! The Rooivalk has been upgraded quite extensively since then, still doesn't change the fact that it was the only helicopter at that time able to preform a backflip.

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[size=16pt]Stop wasting your time with lies dude !

Lynx in the 1970s is the world`s first fully aerobatic helicopter, first to fly upside down, first to di back flips and all full aerobatics in this world.

South Africa is a haven of lies and fraud grin grin

"The history of the Lynx began around the mid-1960s. This resulted in the design and successful production of the world’s first complete aerobatic helicopter – a helicopter which by 1972 began breaking world speed records."

http://armedforcesmuseum.com/united-kingdoms-westland-lynx-helicopter/

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:13pm On May 21, 2015
agaugust:


No big deal, I did not see that line about flying upside down then, but I see it now. Prints were so tiny to read.

[size=13pt]Only problem is that your source`s claim is still FALSE INFORMATION, the Lynx helicopter has been flying upside down since 1970s before Rooivalk came in 1980s.

So, we still win tongue tongue tongue

"The history of the Lynx began around the mid-1960s. This resulted in the design and successful production of the world’s first complete aerobatic helicopter – a helicopter which by 1972 began breaking world speed records."

http://armedforcesmuseum.com/united-kingdoms-westland-lynx-helicopter/
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LYNX IS FIRST HELICOPTER IN THE WORLD TO FLY UPSIDE DOWN AND DO BACK FLIPS IN 1970s. PROVED BY VIDEO AND BRITISH WEBSITE
LYNX IS FIRST HELICOPTER IN THE WORLD TO FLY UPSIDE DOWN AND DO BACK FLIPS IN 1970s. PROVED BY VIDEO AND BRITISH WEBSITE
LYNX IS FIRST HELICOPTER IN THE WORLD TO FLY UPSIDE DOWN AND DO BACK FLIPS IN 1970s. PROVED BY VIDEO AND BRITISH WEBSITE
LYNX IS FIRST HELICOPTER IN THE WORLD TO FLY UPSIDE DOWN AND DO BACK FLIPS IN 1970s. PROVED BY VIDEO AND BRITISH WEBSITE
LYNX IS FIRST HELICOPTER IN THE WORLD TO FLY UPSIDE DOWN AND DO BACK FLIPS IN 1970s. PROVED BY VIDEO AND BRITISH WEBSITE
LYNX IS FIRST HELICOPTER IN THE WORLD TO FLY UPSIDE DOWN AND DO BACK FLIPS IN 1970s. PROVED BY VIDEO AND BRITISH WEBSITE
LYNX IS FIRST HELICOPTER IN THE WORLD TO FLY UPSIDE DOWN AND DO BACK FLIPS IN 1970s. PROVED BY VIDEO AND BRITISH WEBSITE
LYNX IS FIRST HELICOPTER IN THE WORLD TO FLY UPSIDE DOWN AND DO BACK FLIPS IN 1970s. PROVED BY VIDEO AND BRITISH WEBSITE
LYNX IS FIRST HELICOPTER IN THE WORLD TO FLY UPSIDE DOWN AND DO BACK FLIPS IN 1970s. PROVED BY VIDEO AND BRITISH WEBSITE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceOpnujmm7Y

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Again were not talking speed records here mate, were talking backflips, the Rooivalk was the only helicopter in the world able to preform a backflip when it first came out

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:16pm On May 21, 2015
agaugust:


[size=16pt]Stop wasting your time with lies dude !

Lynx in the 1970s is the world`s first fully aerobatic helicopter, first to fly upside down, first to di back flips and all full aerobatics in this world.

South Africa is a haven of lies and fraud grin grin

"The history of the Lynx began around the mid-1960s. This resulted in the design and successful production of the world’s first complete aerobatic helicopter – a helicopter which by 1972 began breaking world speed records."

http://armedforcesmuseum.com/united-kingdoms-westland-lynx-helicopter/

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Sorry mate! nowhere in your source does it state that the 1970 Lynx's were able to do backflips!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:16pm On May 21, 2015
jln115:

Again were not talking speed records here mate, were talking backflips, the Rooivalk was the only helicopter in the world able to preform a backflip when it first came out

Who is talking speed you fool

That British armed forces website says clearly :

The history of the Lynx began around the mid-1960s. This resulted in the design and successful production of the world’s first complete aerobatic helicopter http://armedforcesmuseum.com/united-kingdoms-westland-lynx-helicopter/

Now Game Over shocked shocked
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:17pm On May 21, 2015
agaugust:


Who is talking speed you foolÉ

That British armed forces website says [b] The history of the Lynx began around the mid-1960s. This resulted in the design and successful production of the world’s first complete aerobatic helicopter. [/b]http://armedforcesmuseum.com/united-kingdoms-westland-lynx-helicopter/

Now game over shocked shocked
You were talking speed r3tard! secondly nowhere in your source does it state that it was able to do backflips!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:20pm On May 21, 2015
jln115:

Sorry mate! nowhere in your source does it state that the 1970 Lynx's were able to do backflips!

This is a 1970s Lynx doing back flips grin grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceOpnujmm7Y

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:21pm On May 21, 2015
agaugust:


This is a 1970s Lynx doing back flips grin grin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceOpnujmm7Y

Nope its a modified Lynx not the original 1970s model!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:26pm On May 21, 2015
jln115:

You were talking speed r3tard! secondly nowhere in your source does it state that it was able to do backflips!

complete aerobatics, fly, roll, spin, flips, upside down, back flips....source says complete aerobatics, you failed English in school shocked shocked

1970s, Lynx was first helicopter to fly upside down in the world
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:29pm On May 21, 2015
jln115:


Nope its a modified Lynx not the original 1970s model!


Prove it, prove it, prove it ! Prove it is modified !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:38pm On May 21, 2015
agaugust:


complete aerobatics, fly, roll, spin, flips, upside down, back flips....source says complete aerobatics, you failed English in school shocked shocked

1970s, Lynx was first helicopter to fly upside down in the world
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Just because it was the first dedicated aerobatics helicopter doesn't mean it could do backflips, now stop making stuff up your embarrassing yourself as usual!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:38pm On May 21, 2015
agaugust:


Prove it, prove it, prove it ! Prove it is modified !
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Its modified because the Original lynx weren't able to do backflips!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 5:38pm On May 21, 2015
jln115:

Its modified because the Original lynx weren't able to do backflips!

Citation needed !
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:21pm On May 21, 2015
jln115:

Its modified because the Original lynx weren't able to do backflips!
the igirigi apc is the first in the world to withstand a 30mm bullet grin its a 'national pride' thing, don't get it twisted

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:39pm On May 21, 2015
iterator24:
the igirigi apc is the first in the world to withstand a 30mm bullet grin its a 'national pride' thing, don't get it twisted

Dreams! Dreams! Dreams!!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:44pm On May 21, 2015
agaugust:


[size=16pt]Stop wasting your time with lies dude !

Lynx in the 1970s is the world`s first fully aerobatic helicopter, first to fly upside down, first to di back flips and all full aerobatics in this world.

South Africa is a haven of lies and fraud grin grin

"The history of the Lynx began around the mid-1960s. This resulted in the design and successful production of the world’s first complete aerobatic helicopter – a helicopter which by 1972 began breaking world speed records."

http://armedforcesmuseum.com/united-kingdoms-westland-lynx-helicopter/

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No wonder you think that a freezing air on top of a mountain is more heavier than the air at sea level. I hope you have never even understand a thing from that link you posted. Never in your life consider a career as a teacher because your students will fail left, right and center. Shame!!!!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 8:48pm On May 21, 2015
agaugust:


An aircraft carrier is NOT an ordinary surface vessel, it is a surface vessel with full air to air combat capabilities, air power at sea.


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. Yes, it is a surface vessel!


Surface and sub-surface!

And no it doesn't have air to air capability.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:02pm On May 21, 2015
agaugust:


Citation needed !
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I already posted 2 citations
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:03pm On May 21, 2015
iterator24:
the igirigi apc is the first in the world to withstand a 30mm bullet grin its a 'national pride' thing, don't get it twisted
hahahahahahahahahhahahahahah good for you mate!!!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by pavri: 10:19pm On May 21, 2015
mzilakazi:



So, isn't obvious that you Nigerians are big liars on mother earth

I am not Nigerian. I am just talking about ongoing agenda and expressing my hopes regarding likely further cooperations.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:24pm On May 21, 2015
jln115:

I already posted 2 citations

There is NO citation posted by you to prove that Lynx in the video was modified to do back flips and not the 1970s Lynx.

Do you think we are fools or toddlers here?

You posted NO source, so we are still waiting for your proof.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lionel4power(m): 10:26pm On May 21, 2015
which African country will operate an aircraft carrier first? www.nairaland.com/2306245/which-african-country-buy-aircraft
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:29pm On May 21, 2015
pavri:


I am not Nigerian. I am just talking about ongoing agenda and expressing my hopes regarding likely further cooperations.

The Turks will do well to extend the endurance of the T-129 from 3 hours to 5 hours with option of 4 drop tanks of fuel, so the helicopter in that recce/strike mode only has the cannon as offensive weapon. It can attack the target and call in air support, the cannon won't kill a tank, but also a tank wond run away out of sight so easily, unlike soft skin targets like personnel or cars. Most armoured vehicles cannot survive 20mm cannon shells from their roof top. The driver and occupants heads will be b.lasted.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:30pm On May 21, 2015
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:46pm On May 21, 2015
agaugust:


There is NO citation posted by you to prove that Lynx in the video was modified to do back flips and not the 1970s Lynx.

Do you think we are fools or toddlers here?

You posted NO source, so we are still waiting for your proof.
"There is NO citation posted by you to prove that Lynx in the video was modified to do back flips and not the 1970s Lynx"
I have posted 2 sources that state only the Rooivalk was able to preform a backflip when it came out, thus the Original Lynx's were not able to preform a backflip.

"Do you think we are fools or toddlers here ?"
Yes
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:55pm On May 21, 2015
jln115:


I have posted 2 sources that state only the Rooivalk was able to preform a backflip when it came out, thus the Original Lynx's were not able to preform a backflip.


The bolded part is still your own personal opinion with no citation or source to prove it.

Show us proof with technical source saying that 1970s Lynx in that video was modified to do back flips.

Until then, you remain a big liar and fraudster, you will be ranked next to @Patches the glory thief
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by bidexiii: 10:57pm On May 21, 2015
agaugust:


[size=16pt]Stop wasting your time with lies dude !

Lynx in the 1970s is the world`s first fully aerobatic helicopter, first to fly upside down, first to di back flips and all full aerobatics in this world.

South Africa is a haven of lies and fraud grin grin

"The history of the Lynx began around the mid-1960s. This resulted in the design and successful production of the world’s first complete aerobatic helicopter – a helicopter which by 1972 began breaking world speed records."

http://armedforcesmuseum.com/united-kingdoms-westland-lynx-helicopter/

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@ augustus please don't waste ur time arguing with dis guy, he as not being able to give us a single proof all is links or citations so to say are just specification of rooivalks !
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 11:02pm On May 21, 2015
AugustineAgain:



Military researcher, yes I am. Find a cure for your inferiority complex grin grin

Those pilots could wear a uniform of their training academy in Turkey or the manufacturers flying school uniform, yes it happens, in NATO countries of which Turkey is a member, some non government flying schools have special uniforms for students. Nobody knows the school they are in Turkey and nobody knows what uniform may be used there.

The uniform is Somali, that's what ALL of us on this forum did not know, I was the one who put it on the African photo forum and @africaken who is expert on uniforms in East Africa said it is Somalian uniform, nobody else here could identify it.

Your navy officer in SANDF navy, @andrewza has Lynx helicopters in his navy and he sees them, yet he does not know a Nigerian Lynx has radar inside the nose, then you should say he is a fake military man or fake naval officer telling lies that he works for South African navy !

Nobody is this world knows all things about all militaries all over the world 100%, not even the American military joint chief of staff ! There are millions and millions of military data, images, photos, information spread all over the world, anybody who claims to know it all is playing God and is as big liar.

Now military researcher, yes I am, it gives you inferiority complex, yes it does, your problem not mine.

I know enough to challenge the 3 chief of staffs in SANDF, SAN, SAAF all together at the same time, never mind you fraudulent guys here who say SAAF Gripen jets have air to ground missiles that you all could not tell us the missile name for the past 7 days grin grin grin

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You are nothing but a village boy who has a poor science knowledge.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:04pm On May 21, 2015
agaugust:


The bolded part is still your own personal opinion with no citation or source to prove it.

Show us proof with technical source saying that 1970s Lynx in that video was modified to do back flips.

Until then, you remain a big liar and fraudster, you will be ranked next to @Patches the glory thief
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Its not my personal opinion, its fact, proven by no less than 2 sources.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 11:06pm On May 21, 2015
bidexiii:

@ augustus please don't waste ur time arguing with dis guy, he as not being able to give us a single proof all is links or citations so to say are just specification of rooivalks !

I don't know which citation do you want because a lot of them have been posted proving a point that Rooivalk from an expert point of view is the first helicopter to ever do back flips. Deny it or not will still not make difference.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:06pm On May 21, 2015
bidexiii:

@ augustus please don't waste ur time arguing with dis guy, he as not being able to give us a single proof all is links or citations so to say are just specification of rooivalks !

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by pavri: 11:25pm On May 21, 2015
agaugust:


The Turks will do well to extend the endurance of the T-129 from 3 hours to 5 hours with option of 4 drop tanks of fuel, so the helicopter in that recce/strike mode only has the cannon as offensive weapon. It can attack the target and call in air support, the cannon won't kill a tank, but also a tank wond run away out of sight so easily, unlike soft skin targets like personnel or cars. Most armoured vehicles cannot survive 20mm cannon shells from their roof top. The driver and occupants heads will be b.lasted.

Turkey doesn't have an intention to extend the endurance, Since current inner fuel tanks keep Atak three hours on air without needing any air refueling. BTW, Turkey is producing 91 T-129 Atak helicopter for her own needs at present. If you consider 3 hours of endurance each, You are going to see that It is a strategic offensive forces Atak provides to Turkish Land Forces.



In recce/strike modes, Turkish concept is not to sacrifice any million $ helicopter with approaching dangerous zone, especially If You have a serious enemy like Greece. If you approach into such close ranges, Your copter is going to be a nice target which can be shot down easily. Greece is like a paradise of surface to air missiles.

Contrary to this, Turkish attack helicopter concept is developed with relaying highly on sensor qualities, highly advanced automatic identification softwares on FLIR and millimetric wave radar project. Instead of stepping into dangerous zones controlled by enemy, Atak will detect/identify target with a range from 25km thanks to FLIR, 40km thanks to MMW radar.

You can read the type of targets in Turkish identified by 300T FLIR (Bus, Car, Human...etc).



If the whether conditions block receiving serious electro-optic data, Then MMW radar with SAR mode will scan the 40km zone to identify a target. If It is a light armoured vehicle like APC or soldiers detected, Cirit missiles will be choosed to eliminate. If It is a main battle tank, It will be the line of Mizrak-L or IIr missiles. 20mm Gun is not choosed to penetrate/surpass enemy tank forces. As You also know that Tanks don't move without protection and attacking to a tank with 20mm gun is a madness for crew so The situation will be like above. Besides, Turkey is familiar with advantages of 20mm gathling gun since AH-1W Turkey operates have also similar system on it. It is the best selection against assymetric threats and light armoured soft targets.



Turkish Army knows the serious advantages of 20mm gun and actively using it against terrorists. 20mm gatling guns are more heat resistant than 30mm single barrel equivalents so Enemy can be surpassed more quickly.

An operation video of Turkish attack helicopters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLoJT6tDBuw

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Centrifude(m): 1:18am On May 22, 2015
EVarn:
Recalling our Ambassador/High Commissioner was a grave decision considering that no Nigerian was actually killed,nevertheless,it was the decision of the Senate Assembly to invite our Ambassador over for routine questioning.After which our Ambassador along with the Minister for Foreign affairs spent hours begging the Senate Assembly on your behalf,you should be grateful to them,really.
We really didnt want other African countries to do the same,afterall,we also have investments in SA and other SADC countries,if all African countries neglect SA,it would affect our investments and citizens in not only SA but also SADC region.

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