iblawi:
brother I even try to prove to them that they don't have enough to attack us and we won't attack them either but they want to prove what they are not.

They can't threaten us and we can't threaten them simple.

They are not better than us and we are not better than them.

Our focus is different from theirs, and that is why equipment are also different.

Finally we both have flaws in airforce and our navies.

iblawi:
testing doesn't mean u have it. U are still trying to have it.

Henry120:


Another "mokopa" you cannot afford!

iblawi:
tell us if you have anything new in Your Navy.

iblawi:
brother I even try to prove to them that they don't have enough to attack us and we won't attack them either but they want to prove what they are not.

They can't threaten us and we can't threaten them simple.

They are not better than us and we are not better than them.

Our focus is different from theirs, and that is why equipment are also different.

Finally we both have flaws in airforce and our navies.

jl115:

Denel=Government , SANDF=Government , SANDF=Denel.

Bartitsu:


Brother, maybe we ought to discuss our countries cooperating militarily. Imagine if we purchase arms from SA. Imagine if Nigeria was to engage in technology transfer with SA. I personally would be proud to see the Rooivalk flying with nigerian colors; blowing up some boko Harams. They have the technology and we potentially have the funds to make it happen.

Viva Africa!!!!!!!

Henry120:


Do you and Patches689 sh1t out the parts used in making them?

Denel isn't equal the SANDF, as your pathetic incompetent force pays for whatever they get from Denel, just like every other buyer.


You cannot afford the mokopa because you are broke!

On the marlin, it is still on. Paper, you don't fire BVR missiles on paper, neither can you afford it.

Henry120:


Do you and Patches689 sh1t out the parts used in making them?

Denel isn't equal the SANDF, as your pathetic incompetent force pays for whatever they get from Denel, just like every other buyer.


You cannot afford the mokopa because you are broke!

On the marlin, it is still on. Paper, you don't fire BVR missiles on paper, neither can you afford it.

iblawi:
seem u don't understand this people. We bought MRAPs from them just to show them love and promote there market as African what did we get from them. They claimed they were the 1s that crushed boko haram. And I stated wandering what Chad, Cameroon and Niger would say. Immediately we ask for there helicopter only God knows what will Happen. Russia that trained thousands of troops and sold several equipment to us didn't say a thing. This makes me wonder. Don't bother about their helicopter cos we are getting Apache soon.

Funding would soon start for DICON and we will Make things happen steadily.

jl115:

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iblawi:
you will b the only 1 using you Merlin and auther

iblawi:
seem u don't understand this people. We bought MRAPs from them just to show them love and promote there market as African. Don't bother about their helicopter cos we are getting Apache soon.

Funding would soon start for DICON and we will Make things happen steadily.

DictatorZAR:


This clearly shows you simply have no clue what you talking about.

You ain't getting any Apache's. Go read the Leahy Report, and what the US-Senate told Buhari when he went on he's American @Ass kissing holiday.

iblawi:
I guess you are outdated. Pls confirm what happened after he came back.
US to sell 8 Apache to Nigeria for $500,000, 000

jl115:

-Algeria isn't flying any Mi 28, they don't have any yet ,we have the Rooivalk mk1F,-They are also not flying any Super Lynx because they don't have any, we do!! - the Yak-130 isn't any more modern than our Hawk 120, neither is the Su30MK more modern than our Gripen - in my original post I said the T90 is more modern than our Olifant so I don't know what the problem is- Mokopa is more modern than the Kornet and the Ingwe isn't far behind- We have the Oerlikon 35mm GDF-007 AHEAD, starstreak, and in the near future the Umkhonto SAM,BTW the S-300 isn't that modern- They don't have any Valours or Tigr corvettes- Our Heroine class subs are more modern than their Kilo class- they are going to use the same Exocet missile on their Valours than the ones we are using.

We also have a much much better C4I2R capability than Algeria, Link za,C2,IMPI tracker ring a bell? we have more modern artillery, more modern infantry, and more modern APCs and IFVs.

We also have more modern helicopter fleet and more modern medium lift fleet

We have the widest radar coverage of any country in Africa

and as I said before we have a more modern defence force not more powerful

jl115:

HAHAHA OK

Built or assembled it doesn't matter, Denel Aviation supplies all the spare to maintain our Hawk fleet!

patches689:


1. Unlike Nigera, we have a navy. You do not.

2. Hawks are weaponized - they can deploy JDAMS (you only have 2 airplanes that can do that) and engage in air to air combat

3. 14 Trained pilots in 2013. Its now 2015.

4. 11 of the most advanced attack helicopters in Southern Africa.

5. Apart from 2 OPV's, the ATR-42 and 2 upgarded alpha jets (with a handfull of drones) there is absolutely nothing modern in your military. Certainly no where near as advanced as us.

South Africa stands head and shoulders above nigeria

jl115:
Its been a busy day today at Simons town, thought id post these pics on this thread considering we don't use our Lynx helicopters with our Valours according to @Agaugust

ssaengine:
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=40322:denel-dynamics-to-test-marlin-bvr-missile-technology-in-september&catid=7:Industry&Itemid=116

Just for a slightly longer version....



"Denel Dynamics will conduct missile flight tests of its new Marlin missile system in September and November this year ahead of a first guided test flight in November 2016, where it will be demonstrated against a moving target.
...

The 80-100 kilometre range Marlin radar-guided air-to-air missile is being developed by Denel Dynamics under an Armscor/Department of Defence technology demonstrator contract. Denel Dynamics will be using a dual pulse rocket motor on the Marlin (this uses two fuel chambers and one exhaust nozzle) for extended range.
...

Marlin can also be configured into an all-weather surface-to-air missile. Common subsystems will be used for the different variants of the weapon, with some components derived from the A-Darter and Denel’s Umkhonto surface-to-air missile.
...

Although Marlin is fully funded by the Department of Defence via Armscor, Denel Dynamics is looking for an international partner to collaborate with during the future development programme. The company said it is currently talking to a few interested parties."

agaugust:


[size=13pt]Bwahahaahaha Nonsense !

Did you read your own source at all?

It says you are testing unguided rocket, basic straight line shot rocket firing, not a missile. Marlin rocket booster only

Your source story says the guided Marlin missile itself will NOT be tested until November 2016.

Then we can expect it to enter service in 2020 because the story says South Africa is still looking for foreign countries to become joint development partners.

You have no BVR missile and you will NOT have one soon....still many years away !

SAAF is stuck with 19 km range A-Darter missile, NAF F-7 jet has 22 km range, we are about the same level
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agaugust:


I said the Lynx belong to your air force and are based on land at 22 squadron airbase, they only land on the ships occassionaly and NOT constantly as @Patches falsely claimed, reason why 95% of valour frigate photos show no helicopter on board.

You failed comprehension in school.

jl115:

Dude!! your not getting any Apache, get that threw your skull!!

agaugust:


1. You have an imbalanced and incomplete navy, NO aircraft at all and NO stealth IPV, MPV, OPV, no super speed ocean Interceptors.

2. Hawks have no radar, they need a Gripen to fly beside them to 'borrow' radar.

3. Just 6 Gripen pilots today.

4. Obsolescent Rooivalks, only 11 combat helicopters.....Nigeria has about 50 !

5. Many modern things Nigeria has that you dream of in South Africa, missile armed drones and man portable quad-copter night drones, they don't exist in your country.

May I add, Nigerian army has over 500 units of modern amphibious armoured vehicles that can cross a river for combat operations.....South African army is a dry land only army....obsolete and outdated for that reason alone
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iblawi:
I guess you are outdated. Pls confirm what happened after he came back.
US to sell 8 Apache to Nigeria for $500,000, 000