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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:40pm On Nov 09, 2015
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:01pm On Nov 09, 2015
agaugust:


Last war was a draw, no winner. Btwn, Egypt is far better armed and trained today. I guess South Africa too can try fight Israel and know what Egypt faced. South Africa has not won any war in it's modern history.
Border War!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:18pm On Nov 09, 2015
agaugust:


Egypt is too powerful for any country that is not a major world power.

About 200 F-16 jets, 24 Rafale jets, 50 Apache helicopter gunship, 9 AWACS aircraft, 1,000 Abrams tanks and 30,000 armoured vehicles, artillery and missile launchers, dozens of missile armed frigates, corvettes, torpedo armed submarines, ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and 1.5 million soldiers.

Who can challenge Egypt today? Even Israel is careful with today's Egypt.





Israel: 80+ F15Es, 280+ F16s, 30+ AH1 Cobra, 40+ AH 64, 1500+ Merkava Tanks

AND Egypt has nowhere near 30000 Armoured vehicles!!!!

Lastly Israeli soldiers are also much better trained than there Egyptian counterparts.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 10:43pm On Nov 09, 2015
agaugust:

Egypt is too powerful for any country that is not a major world power.
About 200 F-16 jets, 24 Rafale jets, 50 Apache helicopter gunship, 9 AWACS aircraft, 1,000 Abrams tanks and 30,000 armoured vehicles, artillery and missile launchers, dozens of missile armed frigates, corvettes, torpedo armed submarines, ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and 1.5 million soldiers.
Who can challenge Egypt today? Even Israel is careful with today's Egypt.
True,however,I disagree.
Israel has almost twice the size of the Egyptian air fleet,boasting more upgraded fighter jets than the Egypt's poorly maintained aircrafts.
Israel managed to invade Egypt's air space and crush the Egyptian airforce in the pre-emptive airstrike of the 3 day war,and they can do it again.
Egypt has no missile technology(only purchasing ready made missiles) or advanced military industrial complex comparable to that of Israel.
Egypt certainly do not have up to 30,000 armoured vehicles.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:03am On Nov 10, 2015
jln115:

Israel: 80+ F15Es, 280+ F16s, 30+ AH1 Cobra, 40+ AH 64, 1500+ Merkava Tanks

AND Egypt has nowhere near 30000 Armoured vehicles!!!!

Lastly Israeli soldiers are also much better trained than there Egyptian counterparts.

Citation to prove that Israelis are better trained as at this era 2015, not 1973 war era.

I have posted modern Egyptian army training and demos here, not willing to repeat old story again.

Egypt has total of about 30,000 armoured vehicles, artillery and missile launchers combined, go check SIPRI.

Israel today is Afraid of Egypt same way the Egyptians too fear them.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:06am On Nov 10, 2015
jln115:
Border War!!

Cuba almost defeated South Africa so you ran to UN for peace negotiations. You still respect Cuba today, that's why that tiny island is training SAAF pilots now Cuba is your master.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:14am On Nov 10, 2015
EVarn:
True,however,I disagree.
Israel has almost twice the size of the Egyptian air fleet,boasting more upgraded fighter jets than the Egypt's poorly maintained aircrafts.
Israel managed to invade Egypt's air space and crush the Egyptian airforce in the pre-emptive airstrike of the 3 day war,and they can do it again.
Egypt has no missile technology(only purchasing ready made missiles) or advanced military industrial complex comparable to that of Israel.
Egypt certainly do not have up to 30,000 armoured vehicles.

I mean Egypt has total of 30,000 armoured vehicles, artillery and missile launchers combined.

Your view of the 3 wars is one sided, go google how many Israeli jet fighters Egypt shot down with air defense missiles, read why Israeli air force pilots call Egyptian SA-6 missiles the THREE FINGERS OF DEATH.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 1:13am On Nov 10, 2015
agaugust:


Egypt is too powerful for any country that is not a major world power.

About 200 F-16 jets, 24 Rafale jets, 50 Apache helicopter gunship, 9 AWACS aircraft, 1,000 Abrams tanks and 30,000 armoured vehicles, artillery and missile launchers, dozens of missile armed frigates, corvettes, torpedo armed submarines, ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and 1.5 million soldiers.

Who can challenge Egypt today? Even Israel is careful with today's Egypt.






Like I said, Egypt always buy the best of equipments that they can't maintain alone except with help from major countries. I believe they can't last in a war that will span a year with Turkey, Isreal or Iran.

Egypt will always be a treat to any middle east country but their chances of winning against these countries in a prolonged war is slim. Iran, turkey and Isreal produce major weapons they need and can make modification and increase production if need be.

Others can achieve a lot at a very minimal cost and time without depending on anyone while Egypt will remain broke and battle with how to raise money for their foreign engineers maintaining their mistral and other equipments.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:51am On Nov 10, 2015
agaugust:


Last war was a draw, no winner. Btwn, Egypt is far better armed and trained today. I guess South Africa too can try fight Israel and know what Egypt faced. South Africa has not won any war in it's modern history.

The last one was a draw?

Are you high or simply ignorant of military history?

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:52am On Nov 10, 2015
agaugust:

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Can't even rule Nigeria....

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:56am On Nov 10, 2015
agaugust:


Citation to prove that Israelis are better trained as at this era 2015, not 1973 war era.

I have posted modern Egyptian army training and demos here, not willing to repeat old story again.

Egypt has total of about 30,000 armoured vehicles, artillery and missile launchers combined, go check SIPRI.

Israel today is Afraid of Egypt same way the Egyptians too fear them.

Does the statement even need a citation?

Videos mean nothing - cit.actions have been posted by me where a former US army Officer outlines thE terrible state of the Egyptian army

Lol - you just admitted you lied by changing your statement! No citations please!!

Why would Israel fear Egypt? Score is 3:0!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:56am On Nov 10, 2015
agaugust:


Cuba almost defeated South Africa so you ran to UN for peace negotiations. You still respect Cuba today, that's why that tiny island is training SAAF pilots now Cuba is your master.

When did Cuba defeat us?

Citations please
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:59am On Nov 10, 2015
agaugust:


I mean Egypt has total of 30,000 armoured vehicles, artillery and missile launchers combined.

Your view of the 3 wars is one sided, go google how many Israeli jet fighters Egypt shot down with air defense missiles, read why Israeli air force pilots call Egyptian SA-6 missiles the THREE FINGERS OF DEATH.

So then your statement of 30 000 is meaningless

The view of the 3 wars IS FACT.

Israel defeated not only Egypt but THE WHOLE ARAB WORLD, ON MULTIPLE FRONTS, AT THE SAME TIME - THREE TIMES
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 10:24am On Nov 10, 2015
agaugust:

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Nigerian under 17 youth are said to be cheats. They are all in their mid 20s.


Nigerian football association high official admitted that the squard is way older than 17.

http://thenewsnigeria.com.ng/2015/11/nigerias-u-17-team-in-fresh-age-cheating-storm/

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 10:26am On Nov 10, 2015
agaugust:


Last war was a draw, no winner. Btwn, Egypt is far better armed and trained today. I guess South Africa too can try fight Israel and know what Egypt faced. South Africa has not won any war in it's modern history.


Neither is Nigeria
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 10:30am On Nov 10, 2015
lezz:
I thought you went to school Patrick.

Access doesn't mean availability or quality water as your ANC government will have you believe . Here's an excerpt from a team of critics who specialise in bursting the fables told by the ANC :

[b]ACCESS TO A TAP DOES NOT MEAN ACCESS TO WATER

And there is another issue besides the number with access to “piped water”. According to Scott, the department of water works on the assumption that if people have access to a tap, they have access to water. “When we talk about piped water, we are normally referring to infrastructure and people have access to water coming out of that infrastructure,” he told Africa Check.

However, according to Oliver Ive, a water and sanitation engineer and MD of Amanz’ abantu Services, a private company involved in rural water supply and sanitation projects, “the fact that someone has a tap doesn’t mean they have clean water or access to piped water”.

“If you put a pump or a service in a village, is it still working in five years time? Government will say that they have spent the money on infrastructure and the people have access, but if you go out and physically check if those taps are delivering water, and quality water, the answer is probably no.
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We all know that the ANC is more proficient in falsifying figures than running a government. https://africacheck.org/reports/claim-that-94-of-south-aclaim-that-94-in-sa-have-access-to-safe-drinking-water-doesnt-hold-water/


Water access in Nigeria remains at 75% http://wholives.org/

For SOUTH AFRICA :

Only 27% have access to piped water on site.

while 16% use communal taps and 3% use neighbours taps.

Stats SA, who compiled the survey, said: "It is a cause for concern that 2.3% of households still had to resort to sourcing drinking water from rivers, streams and dams.”


The SAHRC's report meanwhile found that regional shortcomings tended to "mirror apartheid spatial geography".
Patrick, this means that only your white masters have drinking water. The rest of zulus are water-destitutes as tasty as wild lions in the serengati grin grin grin



The report found that 1.4m households had yet to be provided with sanitation services – including 12.5% of all households in the Eastern Cape. While in KZN, 14% of households have never had access to water


Almost a third of households in KZN felt their water smelled bad, compared to just 3% of Northern Cape households. When I say zulus don't have water, I mean they can't even bath properly. So the Anglo-Dutch has a water level of 95% while the rest of the country is less than 50%.


Out of the 931 water systems within the 153 municipalities audited in 2012, just 98 systems obtained Blue Drop Certification for the 2012 reporting cycle.

According to the SAHRC’s report, a key issue with access to water is the poor quality of infrastructure delivered by local governments.


http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/SAs-water-supply-how-safe-and-accessible-is-it-20140604
There you have it my boy, I just gave you a complete breakdown of your country's water distribution and quality. If you love facts like you claimed, you will own up and stop being a little greedy _bastard with no grace of honour.


Just in simple words, you cannot compare SA to any country in Africa in terms of infrastructure. You will dream an impossible dream young boy.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 10:43am On Nov 10, 2015
lezz:
Nope South African love to pretend they don't _shit and that their country is perfect.

Meanwhile, while the rest of Africa is growing, south Africa has been decaying for the past decade


We might not be growing economically but infrastructurally we are booming faster than any country in Africa. We are building malls, roads, rail network, airports, free houses, power stations, etc. Our infrastructure is not freezing.

JHB O.R Tambo International airport to be build into an airport city, the so called Aerotropolis worth over $20 billion project


https://www.enca.com/money/or-tambo-be-transformed-r300-billion-aerotropolis
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 11:00am On Nov 10, 2015
SA is so generous because it has invested and is developing the whole of Africa with modern shopping malls including our fake giant of Africa.

Now we are building the biggest mall in Africa for ourselves.

http://www.enca.com/money/new-midrand-mall-set-be-biggest-africa
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Centrifude(m): 11:02am On Nov 10, 2015
agaugust:


Last war was a draw, no winner. Btwn, Egypt is far better armed and trained today. I guess South Africa too can try fight Israel and know what Egypt faced. South Africa has not won any war in it's modern history.

Dude come on, South Africa has nothing to do with this conversation why do you have a chronic need to make everything abt S.A nd Nigeria we were having a civilised conversation about the Arabs but you just had to turn into an argument.

But anyway back to the Arabs, the only thing Egypt has on Israel in Man power. Showing a video of huge buffed up Egyptian doing back flips and breaking boards does not count as advance training.

We've seen dozens of videos of Israeli Soldiers in training, not forgetting that they have some of the most advance defence industries on the Planet, Israeli drones give their Soldiers an unrivalled amount of battlefield awareness when compared to their neighbours. They also have more Aerial Combat experience they've shot done more jets then anyone else, Egypt has quantity but Israel has quality.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 11:10am On Nov 10, 2015
Jericho ll & lll missiles alone is enough to scar Egypt.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Centrifude(m): 11:32am On Nov 10, 2015
iblawi:
Jericho ll & lll missiles alone is enough to scar Egypt.

I also read that the Iron Dome can be used against low flying Aircraft, so Jericho plus Iron Dome equals overkill.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Centrifude(m): 11:34am On Nov 10, 2015
I think its time for the "My Toilet and Water pump is better than yours" argument to end now, its ruining the thread.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iblawi(m): 11:35am On Nov 10, 2015
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:21pm On Nov 10, 2015
agaugust:


Cuba almost defeated South Africa so you ran to UN for peace negotiations. You still respect Cuba today, that's why that tiny island is training SAAF pilots now Cuba is your master.
Uhm almost defeated? The Cubans or Angolans for that matter, failed to win a single battle.

Now answer this: is Namibia or Angola communist countries? If your answer NO then again you know who won the war.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:32pm On Nov 10, 2015
agaugust:


Citation to prove that Israelis are better trained as at this era 2015, not 1973 war era.

I have posted modern Egyptian army training and demos here, not willing to repeat old story again.

Egypt has total of about 30,000 armoured vehicles, artillery and missile launchers combined, go check SIPRI.

Israel today is Afraid of Egypt same way the Egyptians too fear them.
1.Provide a citation to prove Egypt is better trained today than they were in the 70ss.

2.Ok I understand what you mean, but then Israel would also have very near if not more than 30000 vehicles and most of them are also much more modern.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 2:41pm On Nov 10, 2015
Patchesagain:


The last one was a draw?

Are you high or simply ignorant of military history?

you are the one who needs fresh lessons on military history all the time.

We have argued that topic here in detail and publicly available history proved the last war was a draw.

I am not willing to go back to that same old topic that was fully discussed here this year, I don't have a repetitive spirit of going back to same old argument like you always want to do.....seems you have a psycho issue that needs medic help.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:03pm On Nov 10, 2015
iblawi:
Jericho ll & lll missiles alone is enough to scar Egypt.

LOL, Egypt has lots of American made Patriot anti-missile and anti-ballistic missile defences to stop Jericho missile.

I guess you have never researched into Egypt's military might, well, I have a detailed insight into their weaponry.

Egypt locally manufactures ballistic missiles in large numbers. Also, the Egyptian navy is far more powerful than the Israeli navy that does not even have a single frigate, and the Egyptian ships include the FREMM destroyer warship.

Anyone saying Israel will defeat Egypt today is a speculator, the two countries avoid war with each other, they are smart enough to avoid an unpredictable war that will wreck both countries.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:21pm On Nov 10, 2015
Patchesagain:


Can't even rule Nigeria....

Envy....butt hurt....show us the global achievement of South African youths especially your type...coloreds and blacks shocked shocked

This is the two faced Nigerian youth....face of peace and face of war....we rule Africa and shake the world !

We rule the world in scrabble

https://www.naij.com/630707-nigerian-player-wins-world-scrabble-championship-in-australia.html

We rule the world in football at U-17 level

We have the best battle experienced young soldiers in Africa.

Reason why South African girls love Nigerian guys !

Show us the Zulu and Cape colony colored youths' global achievement of ruling the world in anything shocked shocked
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:26pm On Nov 10, 2015
Centrifude:

Egypt has quantity but Israel has quality.

Compare Egyptian Type 209 submarines with those of Israel, compare Egyptian FREMM destroyer warship with ancient Israeli corvettes, compare Egyptian incoming Rafale with Israeli F-15, compare Egyptian Abrams tanks with Israeli Makerva.

All you Southie guys know nothing about Egyptian military, you all just come here to post sentiments and private opinion. I should not even be arguing with you Southies.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:37pm On Nov 10, 2015
Msauza:



Neither is Nigeria

Biafra war. Liberia war. Sierra Leone war. Niger Delta war. Boko Haram war.

South Africa has NEVER won any war in modern history.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:42pm On Nov 10, 2015
iblawi:


Like I said, Egypt always buy the best of equipments that they can't maintain alone except with help from major countries. I believe they can't last in a war that will span a year with Turkey, Isreal or Iran.


Almost the entire Israeli air force is maintained by spare parts from America and Europe, or did Israel manufacture F-15 jet. F-16 jet, and Apache helicopter?

You are posting emotions not facts bros.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:13pm On Nov 10, 2015
agaugust:


[s]you are the one who needs fresh lessons on military history all the time.

We have argued that topic here in detail and publicly available history proved the last war was a draw.

I am not willing to go back to that same old topic that was fully discussed here this year, I don't have a repetitive spirit of going back to same old argument like you always want to do.....seems you have a psycho issue that needs medic help[/s].

The war ended with Isreal poised to take Cairo and Damascus

How is that a draw?

slowpoke

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