SANDF BETTER AND BEST

SANDF PRODUCT CHEETAH SOLD TO ECUADOR

@AUGUSTUS ATTACHED ARE PIC OF THE SOUTH AFRICAN POLICE SPECIAL TASK FORCE

agaugust:


About 80% of manufacured products in South African shopping malls are imported made in China. Go count them inside Shoprite and stop fooling yourself. Chinese president orders Jacob Zuma not to allow Dalai Lama visit South Africa and your president obeyed the command from China. Stop fooling yourself, China is 1,000 times a greater nation than South Africa, you can compare RSA to Zimbabwe, not China.

In your dreams. We are not called industrialized. Country for Nothing. If such of your claims happen in Naija don't think it is equally the same situation in SA.

agaugust:


SANDF pays each Cuban army mechanic 360,000 Rands per year plus benefits of free house, free transport, free mobile phone.....show us which Zulu motor mechanic earns that much....total package of salary plus benefits totalling about half a million Rands per year for one single mechanic, show us the salary scale of a Zulu mechanic to compare to what you pay a Cuban army mechanic
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A simple army captain is earning over R360 000.

That money is little and I am even earning way more than that.

Many Zulus are doctors, Lawyers, Engineers, Bank managers, Chartered Accountants and are earning over over million rand.

patches689:

And yet we still dont buy military equipment from China


Unlike Nigeria... all you can afford is cheap knock-offs with your pathetic military budget

Pooh pooh !!!

You bought Gripen jets you cannot afford to maintain, half your jets are in frozen cold long term storage.

You bought 4 so called frigates but could not afford to buy a single torpedo for them.

You bought those four Valour 'frigates' you bought have been officially downgraded to VALOUR PATROL CORVETTES by your own navy because you cannot afford to buy the standard 32 Exocet missiles for them, you could only afford half missiles and no torpedo at all.

You bought 3 submarines, you could not afford the cost, so you paid with bank loans and interest piles up everyday.

You bought only 5 Badger IFVs because you cannot afford to pay for the 238 units you planned to have, 15 years to buy only 5 IFV.

You bought NOTHING on project Biro after 23 years because you cannot afford one single IPV or OPV on that paper plan that is gathering dust in your defence procurement office.


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Thiza:
AUGUSTUS NO AMOUNT OF NEGATIVE PROPAGANDA AND ENVY WOULD WISH SOUTH AFRICA AWAY. NIGERIA IS THIRD WORLD COUNTRY WITH ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO OFFER AFRICA.

South Africa is a 3rd world country too.

Nigeria has absolutely nothing to offer Africa, go ask Congo-Zaire, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Dafur-Sudan, Somalia.

Nigeria offers satellite services to European countries who depend on our satellite technology, not to mention African countries that use Nigerian satellites.

It's South Africa that has nothing to offer except xenophobia, killing fellow Africans in cold blood on your streets just because they are immigrant workers doing jobs and paying tax to your governement that feeds you lazy Zulu, Xhosa, Bantu parasites who refuse to work for a living.

Thiza:
SANDF....IF YOU CANT OFFER ANYTHING TANGABLE JUST ACCEPT AND MOVE FORWARD....DUAL GUN MADE AND DESIGNED BY SOUTH AFRICA

Whats the name of your dual gun or mini gun, and which company makes it?

Thiza:
@AUGUSTUS ATTACHED ARE PIC OF THE SOUTH AFRICAN POLICE SPECIAL TASK FORCE

They are NOTHING SPECIAL, they are there and yet South Africa is the crime capital of Africa where criminal armer gangs rule the streets day and night murdering and räping your people in grand style

Msauza:


A simple army captain is earning over R360 000.

Simple question we ask again and again, show us a Zulu mechanic employee that earns half a million Rands a year salary that SANDF pays each Cuban mechanic.

Thiza:
@AUGUSTUS ALL OUR SUPERMARKET ARE STUFFED WITH SOUTH AFRICAN PRODUCTS...EVEN SHOPRITE AND CHECKERS IN NIGERIA IS STUFFED AS SUCH.

South Africa imports massively from China more than Europe.

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David Shapiro, director and deputy chairman at Sasfin Securities, said that the reason South Africa is looking at China and the East as economic partners is because they tolerate our incompetence and corruption.

“The reason we go that way [East instead of West] is because they tolerate us. They tolerate our incompetence. They tolerate our corruption and our bad governance,” said Shapiro."

http://businesstech.co.za/news/business/97157/the-real-reason-why-south-africa-is-partnering-with-china/

agaugust:


Pooh pooh !!!

You bought Gripen jets you cannot afford to maintain, half your jets are in frozen cold long term storage.

You bought 4 so called frigates but could not afford to buy a single torpedo for them.

You bought those four Valour 'frigates' you bought have been officially downgraded to VALOUR PATROL CORVETTES by your own navy because you cannot afford to buy the standard 32 Exocet missiles for them, you could only afford half missiles and no torpedo at all.

You bought 3 submarines, you could not afford the cost, so you paid with bank loans and interest piles up everyday.

You bought only 5 Badger IFVs because you cannot afford to pay for the 238 units you planned to have, 15 years to buy only 5 IFV.

You bought NOTHING on project Biro after 23 years because you cannot afford one single IPV or OPV on that paper plan that is gathering dust in your defence procurement office.


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South-Africa actually has only 3 Frigates in service. The fourth is out of commission.

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agaugust:


Pooh pooh !!!

You bought Gripen jets you cannot afford to maintain, half your jets are in frozen cold long term storage.

[size=15pt]FALSE [/size]

Long term maintenance contract signed with SAAB
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=33123:saaf-receives-gripen-support-contract&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107

No Gripen in storage
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=31821:saaf-says-gripens-being-rotated-not-stored&catid=111:sa-defence&Itemid=242

agaugust:

You bought 4 so called frigates but could not afford to buy a single torpedo for them.

[size=15pt]STRAWMAN[/size]

Why buy torpedoes if we are the only SSA with subs?

agaugust:


You bought those four Valour 'frigates' you bought have been officially downgraded to VALOUR PATROL CORVETTES by your own navy because you cannot afford to buy the standard 32 Exocet missiles for them, you could only afford half missiles and no torpedo at all.

[size=15pt]FALSE [/size]

SAN refers to them as frigates
http://www.navy.mil.za/equipment/valour.htm

agaugust:

You bought 3 submarines, you could not afford the cost, so you paid with bank loans and interest piles up everyday.

[size=15pt]FALSE[/size]

All debts were paid off in 2013
http://www.bdlive.co.za/national/2013/02/28/arms-deal-paid-defence-share-covers-africa-mission

agaugust:

You bought only 5 Badger IFVs because you cannot afford to pay for the 238 units you planned to have, 15 years to buy only 5 IFV.

[size=15pt]FALSE[/size]

Contract for all 236 Badgers signed and paid for
http://www.janes.com/article/43336/badger-nears-production-aad142

agaugust:

You bought NOTHING on project Biro after 23 years because you cannot afford one single IPV or OPV on that paper plan that is gathering dust in your defence procurement office.

[size=15pt]FALSE[/size]

Bidding process complete, tenders to be released this year
http://www.maritimesecurityafrica.com/Pages/Detail/18460


Is this all you have left? Have we thrashed and humbled you so much that all you can now do is recycle empty insults? To go back to old arguments settled in this forum many times? Lets not talk of your pathetic army where men only get 60 rounds of 40 year old ammunition and men who flee before the first shot is fired, have to buy their own uniforms and medical supplies, or your airforce with only 7 operational assets, or your navy of sailors who cant swim and with only 50% of vessels operational

Henry240:


South-Africa actually has only 3 Frigates in service. The fourth is out of commission.

[size=15pt]CITATION NEEDED[/size]

patches689:
STRAWMAN
Why buy torpedoes if we are the only SSA with subs?

Yes? How may I help you?

Henry240:


South-Africa actually has only 3 Frigates in service. The fourth is out of commission.

Are you not ashamed to tell lies?

Strawman:


Yes? How may I help you?

lol.

He was making a straw-man argument
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

agaugust:


Simple question we ask again and again, show us a Zulu mechanic employee that earns half a million Rands a year salary that SANDF pays each Cuban mechanic.

There are many of them and the space is just too small to show all of them. Private sector pays quite a lot more than SANDF.

agaugust:


[s]Simple question we ask again and again, show us a Zulu mechanic employee that earns half a million Rands a year salary that SANDF pays each Cuban mechanic.[/s]

Stop wasting our time with empty arguments.

Have you no dignity?

patches689:


lol.

He was making a straw-man argument
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

Lol oh please, you could've done without the link; you didn't actually expect me of all people NOT to know what a straw man argument is, did you? (I mean...it's my username for Christ sake )

I just like poking people who inadvertently mention me in their posts..so now that's done, you can have fun with your argument

Agaugust is down and out. No doubt about it.

Agaugust

South Africa settled all the loans of 1999 biggest arms deal in the African history.

The budget documents show there has been a significant drop in transfer payments at the department because the 1999 arms deal has finally been paid off.

http://www.bdlive.co.za/national/2013/02/28/arms-deal-paid-defence-share-covers-africa-mission

JOHANNESBURG: ArcelorMittal South Africa Ltd on Friday posted a full-year loss that was 23 times wider than its loss of a year earlier, as the steelmaker grappled with cheap imports from China and rising labour and electricity costs. The ArcelorMittal SA unit, which is reviewing operations at its major export-focused plant in Saldanha on South Africa's west coast, reported a headline loss of 1,338 cents per share for the year ended Dec. 31, compared with 57 cents the previous year. Headline earnings per share is the main measure of profitability in South Africa and strips out certain one-off items. "The local steel industry is under severe threat due to the economic meltdown and the glut of oversupply driven by China," the company said in a statement. South Africa's government in August last year agreed to a 10 percent steel import tariff, but ArcelorMittal is pushing for more intervention which could see custom duties on other steel products.

agaugust:


South Africa is a 3rd world country too.

Nigeria has absolutely nothing to offer Africa, go ask Congo-Zaire, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Dafur-Sudan, Somalia.

Nigeria offers satellite services to European countries who depend on our satellite technology, not to mention African countries that use Nigerian satellites.

It's South Africa that has nothing to offer except xenophobia, killing fellow Africans in cold blood on your streets just because they are immigrant workers doing jobs and paying tax to your governement that feeds you lazy Zulu, Xhosa, Bantu parasites who refuse to work for a living.

I still do not believe that in 2016 there are still a number of people who think backward like those two little mountains on their backs. People whose mentality is still stuck to a colonial era kind of outdated geography where South Africa was highlighted as part of a third world country. Those elements fails to move with times to come to the realisation that the world is not static. We are living in a dynamic world, hence we have seen SA officially promoted to join first world countries as a Newly Industrialised Nation. That kind of new development, Agaugust will not take because he is already programmed by Nigeria's colonial based education that SA is a third world country.

Henry240:
JOHANNESBURG: ArcelorMittal South Africa Ltd on Friday
posted a full-year loss that was 23 times wider than its loss
of a year earlier, as the steelmaker grappled with cheap
imports from China and rising labour and electricity costs.
The ArcelorMittal SA unit, which is reviewing operations at its
major export-focused plant in Saldanha on South Africa's
west coast, reported a headline loss of 1,338 cents per share
for the year ended Dec. 31, compared with 57 cents the
previous year.
Headline earnings per share is the main measure of
profitability in South Africa and strips out certain one-off
items.
"The local steel industry is under severe threat due to the
economic meltdown and the glut of oversupply driven by
China," the company said in a statement.
South Africa's government in August last year agreed to a 10
percent steel import tariff, but ArcelorMittal is pushing for
more intervention which could see custom duties on other steel products.

and whats this?

Msauza:




I still do not believe that in 2016 there are still a number of people who think backward like those two little mountains on their backs. People whose mentality is still stuck to a colonial era kind of outdated geography where South Africa was highlighted as part of a third world country. Those elements fails to move with times to come to the realisation that the world is not static. We are living in a dynamic world, hence we have seen SA officially promoted to join first world countries as a Newly Industrialised Nation. That kind of new development, Agaugust will not take because he is already programmed by Nigeria's colonial based education that SA is a third world country.

So russia and China are third world countries while south Africa is a first world country......you must be sick....

bidexiii:


So russia and China are third world countries while south Africa is a first world country......you must be sick....

Don't worry about him cos we know him for his madness.

bidexiii:


So russia and China are third world countries while south Africa is a first world country......you must be sick....

U self na wa for u o, hw dare u say he is sick. He is MAD! Dts d word for him. China & Russia 2nd world and their screwed up xenophobic-ridden country is a 1st world. A true definition of madness is wat he jst exhibited!

Msauza:




I still do not believe that in 2016 there are still a number of people who think backward like those two little mountains on their backs. People whose mentality is still stuck to a colonial era kind of outdated geography where South Africa was highlighted as part of a third world country. Those elements fails to move with times to come to the realisation that the world is not static. We are living in a dynamic world, hence we have seen SA officially promoted to join first world countries as a Newly Industrialised Nation. That kind of new development, Agaugust will not take because he is already programmed by Nigeria's colonial based education that SA is a third world country.

soweto weed at work

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patches689:


[size=15pt]FALSE [/size]

Long term maintenance contract signed with SAAB
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=33123:saaf-receives-gripen-support-contract&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107

No Gripen in storage
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=31821:saaf-says-gripens-being-rotated-not-stored&catid=111:sa-defence&Itemid=242




[size=15pt]STRAWMAN[/size]

Why buy torpedoes if we are the only SSA with subs?




[size=15pt]FALSE [/size]

SAN refers to them as frigates
http://www.navy.mil.za/equipment/valour.htm



[size=15pt]FALSE[/size]

All debts were paid off in 2013
http://www.bdlive.co.za/national/2013/02/28/arms-deal-paid-defence-share-covers-africa-mission



[size=15pt]FALSE[/size]

Contract for all 236 Badgers signed and paid for
http://www.janes.com/article/43336/badger-nears-production-aad142



[size=15pt]FALSE[/size]

Bidding process complete, tenders to be released this year
http://www.maritimesecurityafrica.com/Pages/Detail/18460


Is this all you have left? Have we thrashed and humbled you so much that all you can now do is recycle empty insults? To go back to old arguments settled in this forum many times? Lets not talk of your pathetic army where men only get 60 rounds of 40 year old ammunition and men who flee before the first shot is fired, have to buy their own uniforms and medical supplies, or your airforce with only 7 operational assets, or your navy of sailors who cant swim and with only 50% of vessels operational

[/s]

Most of your comment is heavy garbage on a long list.


Okay if arms deal debt is paid off....that is reason there is NO MONEY left to maintain Gripen jets, buy aviation fuel, produce qualified pilots, ir buy anything for Project Biro, not even a Canoe boat with paddle....broker than broke

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agaugust:
[s][/s]

[s]Most of your comment is heavy garbage on a long list.


Okay if arms deal debt is paid off....that is reason there is NO MONEY left to maintain Gripen jets, buy aviation fuel, produce qualified pilots, ir buy anything for Project Biro, not even a Canoe boat with paddle....broker than broke[/s]

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My claims are all based on citations.

Thus, everything you said in your first post and this post that I am responding to is meaningless.