Mike..ZA:
Only the SANDF,TPDF,FARDC and MDF were involved in the fighting. Other armies are just normal peacekeepers. The SANDF superior training is shown by no SANDF has been killed yet. And only Ukraine,DRC and South Africa were using helicopters for air attacks.

Unfortunately, you are talking to a better informed and more knowledgable audience on this thread! SANDF were led in battle by the FEARLESS Tanzanian and DRC armies as vanguard forces against the M23. It is a well known fact that your cowardly SANDF were afraid to die hence they hid in the back rows of the battle lines. Thanks to the Ukrainian and Indian forces for saving your ugly behinds from M23 humiliation.

agaugust:

do you have proof the 73km or 67km shells for G6 artillery are south african army service ? if not, shut up

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Did you not say that you can not find infomastion of this type out. That is is not made public. Confirm that is what you said.


Denel is state owened. Any thing in it's stores are goverment owened. Denel all so uses milltary testing grounds, personal and equpment to test stuff.

Why do you think SA does not have the long range shells made by denel?

agaugust:

also, do you have proof 60km shells for Bofors F-77 artillery are not in service or being developed by inida/nigeria ? if not, shut up

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Mm yes I do. India has stated they only going to get around 40km range out of them. Nigeria does not have the means to produce them and it is not conformed nigeria even has B05s. All long rang shots with the FH77 B05 have been done with excalber and bounus rounds.

So unless you can show proof to the contray please shut up.

agaugust:

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since we both have no proofs, then this forum hereby downgrades both nigerian Bofors F-77 and south african G6 artillery guns to range 40km for base bleed shells only.

50/50 no cheating, equation balanced

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There is no proof nigeria has B05s, SA was reaching 50km in the 80s all ready(proof is the book first in last out) and there is no resoane SANDF does not have M9703A1 since they mase by denel with RnD money from the army budget.

agaugust:

only a fool of a navy chef/cook thinks Gripen jet 25km range missile is threat to F-7 jet 22km missile of faster speed and 90% k.ill probability.

both pilots of both jets will die same day. fool !

That 90% is a hit probliet. And does not take consider defensive acstion such has flares, ECM, manvring extra.

Thr ISR-T was built to be able to shoot down other AAMs

SA has the seeker heads of the PLC9. (The fact that you do not fully grasp the importance of this is another resone I doubt you work in the defence industry)

The gripens EW suit, Radar, ergniamics, extra all out class the F7

Again only a fool will think a F7 stands a chance.

[size=13pt]Jonathan: Military 'll no Longer be Tolerated in Governance[/size]

09 Nov 2013

By Jaiyeola Andrews

President Goodluck Jonathan Friday in Bissau, Guinea-Bissau gave a stern warning that the global community would no longer tolerate military role in governance both in Africa and other parts of the world.

While addressing a special session of the National Peoples’ Assembly during his visit to the country, Jonathan charged their Armed Forces to embrace total respect for democracy and constitutionalism in the interest of their nation.

“It is no longer fashionable today to see the military parading themselves as the custodians of political power. Rather, it is fashionable for the military to embrace the protection, preservation and total respect for constitutional order and democracy in order to build a prosperous and an egalitarian society", he said.

He dropped the hints at the session which was also attended by members of the diplomatic corps and representatives of civil society organizations.

Jonathan who said he was in Bissau to show solidarity to the government and people of Guinea Bissau as part of efforts to ensure lasting peace and stability on the African continent, also re-stated Nigeria’s condemnation of recent attacks on the Nigerian Embassy and Nigerian nationals in Guinea Bissau. According to him, “mischief makers” in the country should be discouraged from inciting the public against brotherly Nigerians and Africans.

The President however called on the authorities of Guinea-Bissau to bring the perpetrators of the criminal attacks to justice.
“We should be our brothers’ keepers and work hand-in-hand in this era of globalization so as to reap the fruits that come with it. I want to reassure you that the incident that led to the death of a Nigerian will not deter us from our desire to ensure that peace and stability is restored in Guinea-Bissau,” he told the Parliament.

Jonathan noted that the objective of his visit was to “identify with your aspiration to transform your country to the status of a stable and democratic society that will guarantee peace and stable democratic governance, which is a fundamental pre-requisite for meaningful economic development.”


He therefore called on the country’s political leaders and members of its Armed Forces to “remain steadfast and maintain the commitment which you have demonstrated right from the onset until the transition process is successfully completed with the holding of general elections which will take place soon.” He urged all stakeholders in the country to sheathe their swords and work together in harmony to salvage the nation. He assured the gathering that Nigeria and ECOWAS will continue to make financial and material contributions to ensure that the general elections are held as quickly as possible.

The Speaker of the National Peoples’ Assembly, Ibraima Sori Djalo thanked President Jonathan and the Nigerian government for “Nigeria’s presence in our country every time we need support, particularly in this last crisis to which we are determined to find a solution.”

He described the October attack on Nigerians in Guinea Bissau as very “depressing” and reiterated the earlier official apology conveyed to Nigeria on the incident.

Both countries later signed a Cooperation Agreement to boost bilateral relations between them. The agreement was signed by the Nigerian Minister of State (Foreign Affairs), Dr. Nurudeen Mohammed and his Guinea Bissau counterpart, Fernando Delfim da Silva, in the presence of President Jonathan and his host, the Interim President of Guinea Bissau, Manuel Serifo Nhamadjo and top government officials of both countries.

During bilateral talks between the delegations of the two countries, which preceded the signing of the cooperation agreement, President Nhamadjo informed President Jonathan of the commitment of his government to conduct general elections and implement the reformation of Guinea-Bissau’s Security and Defense Forces with the assistance of ECOWAS.

He also thanked Jonathan for his tireless and positive efforts as the Chairman of the ECOWAS Contact Group on Guinea Bissau and Nigeria’s material and human support especially through its troops in ECOWAS Mission in Guinea Bissau (ECOMIB).

Jonathan had on arrival in Bissau, laid wreaths at the tombs of Guinea-Bissau’s great nationalist hero, Amilcar Cabral and other fighters for the nation’s independence. The President also had a meeting with members of the country’s Armed Forces led by the Chief of Defense Staff, General Antoni Indjai.

Before departing Guinea Bissau for The Gambia, President Jonathan met with members of the Nigerian community and also visited the Nigerian contingent of ECOWAS Mission in Guinea Bissau (ECOMIB) at Bras, Bissau.


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http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/jonathan-military-ll-no-longer-be-tolerated-in-governance/163812/

Air Force Upgrades Research And Development For Fleet

Posted by: Channels Television Posted date: November 08, 2013 In: Local | comment : 0 Comments


The Chief of Air Force, Standards and Evaluation, Air Vice Marshal Sadiq Abubakar, has declared that the Nigerian Air Force has achieved a reduction of cost in the management of its fleet.

Brandishing some of the innovations by the Air Force, he told journalists that the Air Force could now also ensure that its ‘fleet is constantly deployed in support of other security agencies in maintaining security in the country’.

Some of the innovations include the hydraulic accumulators for two of its helicopters which hitherto cost 6,000 Dollars to procure each piece. However, in collaboration with tertiary institutions and research institutions in the country, the same product is now produced at the cost of 10,000 Naira (about $62.5).

Other innovations include mobile GPU systems for powering aircrafts and helicopters while on assignment.

The Air Force said it would continue to improve on its research and development such that the technologies and innovations could be exported to other African countries and reduce reliance on more developed nations.

http://www.channelstv.com/home/2013/11/08/air-force-upgrades-research-and-development-for-fleet/

6000 to to 60? How the hell did they pull that off. Either you were being riped off big time or somthing is wrong. I mean that a big difrence.

zaandrew: 6000 to to 60? How the hell did they pull that off. Either you were being riped off big time or somthing is wrong. I mean that a big difrence.

It is quite a big difference, but when you take into consideration locally sourced materials, no exhorbitant direct development/overhead costs etc, then you realise how overpriced a lot of these parts (products) are and I am not just talking about spare parts for aircrafts.

zaandrew: 6000 to to 60? How the hell did they pull that off. Either you were being riped off big time or somthing is wrong. I mean that a big difrence.

the germans, swedish, and british are just ripping off south africa with all those expensive to buy and painfully expensive to maintain weapons they sell to your military and its hard for you to keep the weapons in service, due to lack of cash for regular maintenance.

chinese and indian weapons are cheaper to buy, cheaper to maintain, and tested for combat effectiveness in pre-service trials.

reason nigeria abandoned 18 jaguar jets almost brand new, the british are just cheats and money eaters.

nigeria has learnt her lessons.

generally in nigeria, raw materials are far cheaper than you get the same thing in the rest of the world.

let europe continue to suck and drain south african economy with over-priced weapons and spare parts.

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zaandrew:


Did you not say that you can not find infomastion of this type out. That is is not made public. Confirm that is what you said.


Denel is state owened. Any thing in it's stores are goverment owened. Denel all so uses milltary testing grounds, personal and equpment to test stuff.

Why do you think SA does not have the long range shells made by denel?

south african G6 artillery has NO shell in service with range more than that 40km base bleed.

on secret of such in south africa, umkhonto entered service and the whole world hears the noice in public everyday, just google it.

there is NOT 67km or 71km shell in south african army, NOTHING about your G6 shells is classified because DENEL is desperate to get world market.

live with this new fact, this forum has changed to be more realistic than just the earlier pages of copy and paste of weapons photos.

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zaandrew:

There is no proof nigeria has B05s, SA was reaching 50km in the 80s all ready(proof is the book first in last out) and there is no resoane SANDF does not have M9703A1 since they mase by denel with RnD money from the army budget.

there is very good proof from THREE DIFFERENT SOURCES that nigeria has Bofors F-77 B05 L52, i repeated it 5 times in 5 days....please shut up.

SOURCES :

http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product2820.html

http://beegeagle./2010/05/20/nigerian-army-inventory-as-of-2009/

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/nigeria/army.htm


THREE DIFFERENT INDEPENDENT SOURCES CANNOT BE WRONG, they have worldwide military information much more than you do and a well established information gathering research machinery.....you are the fool @amdrewza !

it pains you i know, that as this thread stays longer, nigerian military's hidden power becomes exposed while south african military's hidden weaknesses become more and more exposed.

you have no choice than to live with this fact. sorry o !

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zaandrew:

That 90% is a hit probliet. And does not take consider defensive acstion such has flares, ECM, manvring extra.

Thr ISR-T was built to be able to shoot down other AAMs

SA has the seeker heads of the PLC9. (The fact that you do not fully grasp the importance of this is another resone I doubt you work in the defence industry)

The gripens EW suit, Radar, ergniamics, extra all out class the F7

Again only a fool will think a F7 stands a chance.

in real air combat, when F-7 jet of nigeria and Gripen jet of south africa meet each other, because of their limitations to only visual range weapons availability, it takes only about 20 seconds for the two jets to be hit by the missiles each pilot will fire. its a close range battle and both pilots will go to their grave that same day.

south africa does NOT have any seeker head or component part of PL-9C missile, you may buy another comparable type of missile from a different country in europe or israel, PL-9C is a chinese missile and south africa has NO access to its software codes or component parts.

LG can copy samsung in one product, it does not mean the two products are technically 100% the same thying. use your coconut head once in a while.

you live in dreamland

show me 3 sources in war history where in the thousands of air to air dogfight, missile was shooting down missile, except the two opposing missiles collide by accident...fool

south africa has NO air force superiority over nigeria. FACT PROVED INTELLIGENTLY ON THIS FORUM.

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zaandrew:

Has for armyguide. We can use army guide as source any time you want. They say SA has over 500 MBTs and 86 G6s so yeah you still think they a trust worthy site?

show us the weblink source where army guide website gave those numbers of south african army MBTs and G6s.

show us that weblink and lets all check it out.

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i wanna know about the nigerian army amphibious force what are they ? where do they train ? do they have there own boats ? and are they a speacail force?

Nigeria27: i wanna know about the nigerian army amphibious force what are they ? where do they train ? do they have there own boats ? and are they a speacail force?

a tip of the iceberg for now. expect more from nigerians who will give answers to your questions. just the nigerian U-17 world cup victory celebration that is keeping most naija guys away from forum this weekend.

yes nigerian army amphibious force has its own special assault boats, very modern and world class combat boats, best in africa.

their last major war was in niger delta against militants.

nigerian army has the best amphibious force in africa and one of the best in the world with combat experience from 1967-1970 biafra civil war of 3rd marine (amphibious) commandoes led into battle by general adekunle and later general obasanjo OBJ ex-presido himself.

thanks bros.

click and read weblinks below :

http://beegeagle./2012/12/04/at-the-nigerian-militarys-exercise-farauta-november-2012-ii-photo-credit-nigerian-navy/

http://beegeagle./tag/nigerian-army-amphibious-forces/

http://beegeagle./2012/03/08/nigerian-army-amphibious-forces-of-the-jointmilitarytask-force-op-pulo-shield/
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i think this boat in the right numbers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CB90-class_fast_assault_craft would be perfect for the amphibious force

agaugust:



there is very good proof from THREE DIFFERENT SOURCES that nigeria has Bofors F-77 B05 L52, i repeated it 5 times in 5 days....please shut up.

SOURCES :

http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product2820.html

http://beegeagle./2010/05/20/nigerian-army-inventory-as-of-2009/

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/nigeria/army.htm


THREE DIFFERENT INDEPENDENT SOURCES CANNOT BE WRONG, they have worldwide military information much more than you do and a well established information gathering research machinery.....you are the fool @amdrewza !

it pains you i know, that as this thread stays longer, nigerian military's hidden power becomes exposed while south african military's hidden weaknesses become more and more exposed.

you have no choice than to live with this fact. sorry o !

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Beageel is a blog. Not a source.

Both of the other 2 have so many misstakes in them I don't consider them trust worthy sourses.

agaugust:

the germans, swedish, and british are just ripping off south africa with all those expensive to buy and painfully expensive to maintain weapons they sell to your military and its hard for you to keep the weapons in service, due to lack of cash for regular maintenance.

chinese and indian weapons are cheaper to buy, cheaper to maintain, and tested for combat effectiveness in pre-service trials.

reason nigeria abandoned 18 jaguar jets almost brand new, the british are just cheats and money eaters.

nigeria has learnt her lessons.

generally in nigeria, raw materials are far cheaper than you get the same thing in the rest of the world.

let europe continue to suck and drain south african economy with over-priced weapons and spare parts.

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Sorry we have been makeing our own spare parts for years now. Even for forghin products. So you entire premis is wrong.

agaugust:

south african G6 artillery has NO shell in service with range more than that 40km base bleed.

on secret of such in south africa, umkhonto entered service and the whole world hears the noice in public everyday, just google it.

there is NOT 67km or 71km shell in south african army, NOTHING about your G6 shells is classified because DENEL is desperate to get world market.

live with this new fact, this forum has changed to be more realistic than just the earlier pages of copy and paste of weapons photos.

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Again where is your proof on that cliam. Since we where firing Vlap during the 1980s all ready

Despret? Denel sells shells to a lot of countries including western nastions like germany.


You sure you work in the defence industry?

agaugust:

in real air combat, when F-7 jet of nigeria and Gripen jet of south africa meet each other, because of their limitations to only visual range weapons availability, it takes only about 20 seconds for the two jets to be hit by the missiles each pilot will fire. its a close range battle and both pilots will go to their grave that same day.

south africa does NOT have any seeker head or component part of PL-9C missile, you may buy another comparable type of missile from a different country in europe or israel, PL-9C is a chinese missile and south africa has NO access to its software codes or component parts.

LG can copy samsung in one product, it does not mean the two products are technically 100% the same thying. use your coconut head once in a while.

you live in dreamland

show me 3 sources in war history where in the thousands of air to air dogfight, missile was shooting down missile, except the two opposing missiles collide by accident...fool

south africa has NO air force superiority over nigeria. FACT PROVED INTELLIGENTLY ON THIS FORUM.

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Problem is the gripen will see the J7 long before it is seen, be able to move in to a blind spot, and fire far more advance AAMs. The self defence sytems of the gripen are far more advance. In order for a PL9 to fire out to 20km it needs the fighter to lock on with it's radar, then it fires the missiel and guids it till it's seeker head is in range. All of the above can be affect by EW.

PL9 is the excoport version of the PL8 witch is a copy of the python 3. The seeker head on the PL9 is the same has the one on the python3. Again I ask are you sure you work in the defence industry.


Show me when a aircradt carrying a 5gen AAM carrying fighter has been shot at by another AAM. This is a new abliety.

agaugust:

show us the weblink source where army guide website gave those numbers of south african army MBTs and G6s.

show us that weblink and lets all check it out.

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Go to armyguide. Clike countries then south africa. It is not that hard. Or do you need me to change your dirty diaper to.

Nigeria27: i think this boat in the right numbers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CB90-class_fast_assault_craft would be perfect for the amphibious force

Honestly, I don't want us buying this class of boats. We've got the capacity to build these boats in large numbers( mondant, proforce, the navy etc etc). We can buy the engines from abroad, but the craft itself should be built in nigeria.

Nigeria now producing armoured vehicles

November 10, 2013 by Oyetunji Abioye 27 Comments

Armoured vehicles


AS interest in armoured luxury cars rises among the upper class, some Nigerian auto firms have intensified research work on the armouring technology.

Already, an indigenous automobile manufacturer, Proforce Limited, has commenced the production of Armoured Personnel Carriers.

Proforce said it had sealed a pact with Defence Industries Corporation and some para-military organisations for the production.

The Minister of Aviation, Ms. Stella Oduah, is currently facing criticism for allegedly forcing the Nigerian Civil Aviation Authority to buy two armoured cars for her.

Wealthy Nigerians and top public office holders import a number of armoured vehicles.

The Managing Director, Proforce, Mr. Ade Ogundeyin, said in a statement obtained on Friday that his firm was currently working with the Defence Industries on the APCs, just as he stressed it was equipped to armour other categories of vehicles.

He criticised the idea of importing armoured vehicles, saying it did not make economic sense for Nigerians to continue to import what was available locally.

“There is no need for government or anybody to import bulletproof or armoured vehicles. It is a waste of resources.

“Why import at very high cost when there is capacity to produce better vehicles at comparatively lower prices locally? This is an issue I hope the new auto policy will address.”

Ogundeyin said the armouring materials were resistant to AK-47 gunshots and assaults with improvised explosive devices, stressing that the vehicles would run on special flat tyres that could endure several kilometres of journey even when deflated.

The Proforce boss also expressed support for the recently developed auto plan, describing it as one of the best policies of the President Goodluck Jonathan administration.

He said if fully implemented, the document was capable of boosting industrial activities in the sector and contributing towards the achievement of government’s targets for the economy by 2020.

He aligned with the thrusts of the new auto policy, which were to encourage investment, enhance technological development and revive production activities in the industry.

Ogundeyin said, “This is a laudable plan which is capable of transforming the local industry. The impact will be felt in many ways, including the establishment of many small- and medium-scale support industries, job creation and increase in capacity utilisation.

“But a lot will depend on whether government has the will to fully implement the policy, especially the area that concerns their agencies or departments buying locally made vehicles. Another critical area that requires firm action on the side of government is the one that introduces stiffer tariff structure for fully built imported vehicles.”

http://www.punchng.com/business/nigeria-now-producing-armoured-vehicles/

JTF captures 3 sea pirates, recovers arms, ammunition

on November 08, 2013 / in News 8:12 am / Comments

BY SAMUEL OYADONGHA
YENAGOA — Operatives of the Joint Task Force in Niger Delta code-named Operation Pulo Shield have arrested three suspected sea pirates with large cache of ammunition along Twene waterways near Torah community in Ikwere Local Government Area of Rivers State.

Also, 40 suspected crude oil thieves were nabbed in separate operations in the creeks of Rivers, Bayelsa and Delta States.

Media Coordinator of the Joint Task Force, Lt. Col Onyema Nwachukwu, yesterday, in Yenagoa said the sea pirates were nabbed by troops of 130 battalion in the Sector 2 area of responsibility of the JTF.

According to him, the hoodlums were arrested armed with three AK47 rifles and 177 rounds of 7.62mm special ammunition on board double 7-horse power speed boat.

Lt Col Nwachukwu who said the sea pirates were intercepted at about 10pm while prowling Twene waterways near Torah community for opportunity targets added that the troops also arrested 6 suspected crude oil thieves at Oil Well Head 26 located at Ekuluma II while siphoning crude oil from the oil well.

Troops of 3 and 19 battalions covering the Delta State stretch of Sector 1 area of responsibility of the Joint Task Force, according to Lt Col Nwachukwu also nabbed 24 suspects for illegal oil bunkering activities during anti-oil theft patrols at Mosagor Sapele Road, Egwu 1, Opumami, Asiagbere Creek in Gbekebor, Okufoma and Okwuagbede Communities in Ethiope West, Warri South, Warri North and Okpe Local Government Areas of Delta State.

“The patrol troops also scuttled 7 illegal crude oil distillation sites and 17 Cotonou boats, 16 steel reservoirs, 29 large plastic reservoirs and 3 welding machines used by the oil thieves for their illicit operation,” he said.

In a similar operation in Bayelsa State, he said, troops of 343 Regiment and 5 Battalion of Sector 2 of the JTF patrolling the water ways of Bolbo, Opigni and Mansonkiri in Brass Local Government Area of Bayelsa State also arrested 10 suspected pipeline vandals while attempting to hack into AGIP pipeline in Nembe.

“The suspects were operating with a pumping machine, 15 angle iron, 5 metal pipes and other assorted pipeline vandalism equipment.

“The troops further scuttled 18 illegal oil distillation sites and 9 Cotonou boats conveying illegally stolen crude oil.

“During the anti oil theft operations, 40 suspects were arrested for oil theft related offences and are currently undergoing preliminary investigations before they will be handed over to relevant prosecuting agencies,” he said.
- See more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/11/jtf-captures-3-sea-pirates-recovers-arms-ammunition/#sthash.05uFdmUc.dpuf

Looks like sleeper cells are being flushed out.

7 killed in Nigeria’s Kano state: military
Souce:Xinhua Publish By Joseph A. Cambra Updated 11/11/2013 3:07 am in World / no comments

At least five Boko Haram fighters and two soldiers were killed during the Nigerian military’s latest clampdown against the militant sect in the northwestern state of Kano, the military said in Lagos on Sunday.

Capt. Ikedichi Iweha, army spokesperson in the restive northern state, said in a statement that the Joint Task Force (JTF) had killed five suspected terrorists in the city’s metropolis on Saturday.

He added that two soldiers lost their lives during the early morning operation in two houses at the city’s Hotoro Danmarke and Brigade areas.

According to him, intelligence reports had indicated that the militants were in the process of finalizing plans to carry out simultaneous suicide attacks in Abuja, the country’s capital city and Kano.

Items recovered during the operation included two AK-47 rifles and large amounts of ammunition.

The military spokesperson added that the security outfit had been achieving positive results from its operations in the state.

The Nigerian military has stepped up fight against the extremists in virtually all the northern states in Nigeria.

More than 150 Boko Haram suspects in northeast Yobe and Borno states were killed more than a week ago.

The Boko Haram sect poses the biggest security threat in the West African country. Hundreds of people have been killed since it launched the insurgency in 2009.

http://www.nzweek.com/world/7-killed-in-nigerias-kano-state-military-96095/

zaandrew:


Again where is your proof on that cliam. Since we where firing Vlap during the 1980s all ready

Despret? Denel sells shells to a lot of countries including western nastions like germany.


You sure you work in the defence industry?

stop wasting our time with this crap about "do you work in defense industry ?"

i am a civilian, but i will prove any military man to be wrong if he tries to deceive innocent people on this forum.

i said show us a source, reliable source that south african army has the 67km or 73km range artillery shell in service , not the ones in DENEL test laboratory or sales shop where no customer has ever purchased one.

show us source to proof or else you shut up !

we all remember your lies earlier this year that G6 artillery gun has been tested to shell range 100km and you could not give us any single source to prove that for the past 9 months

south african army G6 artillery has maximum range shells of 40km only, FACT !!!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSI8LeMVVFg

zaandrew:

I was only pointing out that in accepting armyguides info of FH77 B05 in nigeri's serves you will have to accept that SA has 86 G6s, 524MBTs and host of other stuff not listed any where els.

show us the armyguide weblink source that says south africa has 86 units of G6 artillery, you are telling lies against armyguide just because their website shocked you by saying nigeria has 48 units of Bofors F-77 B05 L52 artillery and that is the best in the whole world. up nigeria !

zaandrew:

Go to armyguide. Clike countries then south africa. It is not that hard. Or do you need me to change your dirty diaper to.

i prove you wrong again on artillery arguement, armyguide says south africa has 43 units of G6 artillery and perfectly correct.

armyguide data below

G6 Artillery Quantities:

Country Quantity

OMAN 24
SOUTH AFRICA 43
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES 76

Total: 143

source

http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product2680.html

armyguide is correct about swouth african G6 artillery and equally correct about nigerian Bofors F-77 B05 L52 artillery

stop lying @andrewza, this forum is not a do or die affair, accept nigerian army newly discovered Bofors L52 artillery as a nightmare you have to live with.

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agaugust:

stop wasting our time with this crap about "do you work in defense industry ?"

i am a civilian, but i will prove any military man to be wrong if he tries to deceive innocent people on this forum.

i said show us a source, reliable source that south african army has the 67km or 73km range artillery shell in service , not the ones in DENEL test laboratory or sales shop where no customer has ever purchased one.

show us source to proof or else you shut up !

we all remember your lies earlier this year that G6 artillery gun has been tested to shell range 100km and you could not give us any single source to prove that for the past 9 months

south african army G6 artillery has maximum range shells of 40km only, FACT !!!

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I gave you a source a books name, the book(first in last out) covers SA arty from the 1970s to 1989.

Again do you have proof no rounds have been purchased?

Again 50km was reached in the 1980s all ready.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTncNlm_N90