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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 5:00pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
agaugust:Dude that doesn't come any close to the battle of Lomba river or the battle of cassinga. Show us a real battle were Nigeria mobilised its tank squadrons and IFVs to attack a well equipped enemy. Not some marching columns war,which a attack helicopter can stop. A battle where electronic warfare was involved,jamming and stuff. Not this General black scorpion old stories. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 5:06pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
agaugust:Combat capability? Nigeria in history has never proven or shown any real combat capability with tanks,jets,IFVs which would be the case if Nigeria was faced with SA. You claim South Africans have the dullest brains but SA is technologically ahead of Nigeria. Has the biggest economy in Africa. Nigerians are busy killing each other over beliefs and land. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 5:09pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
agaugust:Nigeria dudes kill me or makes me feel sorry for them,when they come here celebrating achievements South Africa has already achieved years ago. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 5:16pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
delvinmaya:No Nigerian wanna be a Igbo. Cause Igbos are still crying for their land. POUND THAT YAM. What is it that I failed to prove about the SA army. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 5:28pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
drag_on:Boko Haram leaders know they can't fight Nigeria conventionally. You can't show up to a fight with a AK-47 or AKM hoping to defeat a man who will show up with fighter jets and IFVs. They're keeping up with how good guerillas operate: Show up do some damage and hide deep into some unknown area. If any country attacked Nigeria now,the security situation in the north would deteriorate and attack from BH would increase. Followed by massive protests. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 5:34pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
drag_on:They flew to Zambia and Rooivalks to the DRC. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 5:36pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
drag_on:If our jets can't fly then was black magic used to get them to Zambia? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 5:46pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
Msauza: The SA Air Force is more experienced than its Nigerian counterpart. It was founded in 1920 and has seen more honours as compared to Nigerias, which was only founded in 1964.Andrew Beauchamp-Proctor was one amongst the best top 10 aces of world war 1. Nigerians were still planting yams to settle battles. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 5:51pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
drag_on:The Rooivalk flew a mission against AAA. South African soldiers were protecting their base,sending fighter jets would have complicated the whole thing. What would have been the end game? Bomb seleka to their starting point at the North? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 5:55pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
drag_on:SANDF top command Generals were not sleeping. I can't remember the name of the base,but they were the ones whom refined the withdrawal plan. Wars or battles are difficult when politics play a major role in them. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 6:01pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
rka1:SADF Generals,soldiers,pilots and special forces always stand ready to help South Africa. Even those who were sidelined during the integration,example being the former 32 battalion major general whom is heading operations in Kruger. Some are commentators at SANDF air shows,while some remain in the defence force. If South Africa was threatened they would be mobilised(those whom age still always them). |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 6:06pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
agaugust:So that super tucano will take on a 5th generation Gripen?. Remember South Africa intercepted a Mozambiquean fighter pilots defecting to South Africa? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nigeria27: 6:11pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
Mike..ZA: what are you talking about the girpen is 4th generation 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 6:55pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
[quote author=Troop101][/quote] The Super Tucano is also used for COIN operations, even the US Air Force are buying them for this particular purpose. It has the latest avionics and technology for laser guided bombs and helmet mounted displays and so on. You are the one showing ignorance by calling it a world war 2 aircraft. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 7:01pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
Nigeria27: Quite right, it is 4th generation and not 5th. 5th generation Gripen E is being developed to replace the Gripen C/D with the Swedish Air Force and also to replace the Swiss F-5s. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by iterator25: 7:07pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
I learnt Nigeria is getting j17 thunder jets? How true is this? Learnt that hardware will take on f22s |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:08pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
Mike..ZA: your navy will perish if they enter nigerian waters, i wont repeat old posts/simulation of naval blockade. our navy too can reach south africa, NNS ARADU, two NNS thunder next year 2014, and two Type 056 stealth warships, and 3 Lynx Anti-submarine helicopters are going for full upgrade and modernization, so now south african navy submarines will be victims hunted by our navy. south african Gripen jets will fall down from the sky as NNS ARADU fires 75km beyond visual range Aspide anti-aircraft missiles. south african slow snail speed guided bombs will all be shot down by about 20 rapid fire anti-aircraft guns from 6 nigerian warships ...your air force will not even be able to get near nigerian navy warships to launch any guided bombs beacuse they will be shot down from 75km away by nigerian navy Aspide BRV anti-aircraft missiles. go open your basket mouth and show your teeth to Namibia and Mozambique, dont even come near west africa ! [img]http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/83/pics/51_1.jpg[/img] . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:10pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
iterator25: I learnt Nigeria is getting j17 thunder jets? How true is this? Learnt that hardware will take on f22s talks going on since 2012 for JF-17 Thunder between NAF and China. the jet is equal to a Gripen jet, but F-22 is a stealth jet and superior to JF-17 |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:18pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
Mike..ZA: the only 5th generation jet fighter in the whole world is American F-22 Raptor. Gripen jet is same 4th generation as Super Tucano. dont mess around here, south africa has NO 5th generation jet fighter, even NATO powers and WORLD powers like Britain, Germany, Russia, France etc have no 5th generation jet fighter, so where will south africa get it from ? buffoon nigerian F-7 jet will face Gripen jet. Alpha jet and MBB 339 jet will face Hawk jet. Super Tucano will face and demolish Rooivalk helicopters since south africa has nothing in the same category as nigeria's new coming baby ......Super Tucano that will eat up all south african helicopters and drones in the air ! . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:23pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
Mike..ZA: nigeria holds the strategic technological edge over south africa with our military spy satellites in space, we watch jacob zuma inside his swimming pool in pretoria, we see all your military forces moving around and we delete them before they know where nigeria is firing from. south african military has no spy satellite, they fight war blind as a bat, a world war II backward and retarded way of fighting and losing war .
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:27pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
Mike..ZA: every army in the world has Recce forces and Special forces, even Togo's army has it. where was south african army Recce when Seleka rebels crawled up to the gate of your basd in C.A.R to eat your soldiers in broad daylight? . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:34pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
Troop101: you are lost in your soweto village Nigerian Super Tucano warplane is an ultra-modern warplane for COIN operations and multi-role light combat, USAF of America is buying 20 units of it next year 2014 for about $500 million . south africa has nothing like it, it can fly from nigeria to south africa with its super long range 4,800km. Nigeria will have an edge over South Africa when our Super Tucano warplanes arrive next year 2014. please run into your daddy's farm and hide in the bush o ! . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 10:26pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
agaugust:Here are the facts 1. The Nigerian navy can't fight withstand/fight its South African counterpart 2. The Nigerian air force can't fight or it is outclassed by the SAAF 3. Your army's massive numbers will be useless against a defence with proper air force. And I told before we are not talking about future stuff. I can say the valour frigates by then will be equipped with radar vision of the umkhonto with 80km range. But you'll say "that's a dream",so I'm calling this "we would reach South Africa next year" comment a dream. You think Angola,Namibia will let your navy use their ports knowing you're looking for a battle/trouble that would set their ports in fire?. South Africa has flexed its muscle on Nigeria's face many times. YOUR WARSHIPS WILL NEED SUPPORT SHIPS TO REACH DURBAN!!!! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 10:31pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
agaugust:I hate when you lie to your fellow Nigerians. Firstly you said the F-7 was equal to the Gripen multi-role jet. Now you're saying the JF-17? I bet it can't even take the retired Cheetah C. Even Zimbabwe has shown interest in those Chinese rust buckets. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 10:37pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
agaugust:The F-7 Nigeria uses is a turkey. Tanzania recognised this and slaughtered this turkey a while ago. Nigeria has 12 F-7 jets which it can deploy at the same time. South Africa has mobile radars which it would use to warn helicopter pilots and intercept jets. SAAF can ambush your super tucanos like we did with Cuban/Angolan MI-24 hindsm |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 10:46pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
agaugust:Spy satellites won't help you win a war. The Soviet union used them by those didn't have effect on the battlefield. They kept their eyes on waterkloof air force air base and warm their allies of imminent air strikes. Yes,South Africa fight as a bat but we all know bats catch insects precisely. Having those satellites without a real capable force on the ground is like a legless eagle flying over a rabbit. Not harmful at all!!!!!!!! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 10:54pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
agaugust:Why don't you in detail tell us what happened in C.A.R?. Cause everyone knows SA SF fought in C.A.R and didn't take any casualty. Here's a quote which shows EW history and mission execution "At about 06h30, the ELINT/EW Douglas DC-4 became airborne and settled into a holding pattern just south of the border. At the same time, a flight of two Puma helicopters, under the command of Major John Church, took off from 'a jungle night-stop' to fly to a clearing 22 km east of Cassinga in order to set up a Helicopter Administration Area (HAA), where the helicopters used in the operation could refuel. On board the two helicopters were Commandant James Kriel, the commander of the South African Air Force's Mobile Air Operations Team (MAOT) and his signaller, as well as Major James Hills, commander of Bravo Company, 1 Bn, along with one ten-man section from the two Hawk Groups he would be using to protect the HAA. Also in the two helicopters were six 200-litre drums of helicopter fuel, and, to the consternation of Hills, the Chief of the South African Army, Lieutenant-General Constand Viljoen." |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeZA: 11:14pm On Dec 01, 2013 |
agaugust:South Africa doesn't need them. For COIN operations SA can buy the ARHLAC which would be cheaper to operate and carry the long range Mokopa missile. Regarding you claiming an edge over South Africa next year,this is the year South Africa receives the serious A-Darter AAM. SAAF will also be acquiring BVR radar AAM(Meteor AAM maybe). South Africa will soon be acquiring heavy lift transport planes Lockheed Martin has already been to South Africa twice this year. Your super tucanos won't have advanced recce pots like SAAF's lightening. Meaning they will be flying low to carry out strikes ,well the South African army is not an insurgent force they will be easily shot down by missiles or AAA. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 4:21am On Dec 02, 2013 |
rka1: The second dullest brain on earth performed the first heart transplant surgery in the world. The second dullest brain on earth invented the first CAT scan in the world. The second dullest brain on earth was the first to discover that coal to oil refeneries, when the whole world could not know that there are altenative methods to produce oil. What have the giant brain produced other than yam? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:28am On Dec 02, 2013 |
Mike..ZA: PL-9 missile is 4th generation, but nigeria has the improved version called PL-9C missile for our F-7 jets and it matches south african IRIS-T missile on Gripen jet, it is very close to A-Darta missile also. PL-10 is superior to A-Darta, read... http://www.strategycenter.net/research/pubid.181/pub_detail.asp well, nigerian air to air missiles and those of south africa are just about equal in technical capacity however, nigerian surface to air missiles are 5 times superior to those of south africa in technical capacity south africa has NO BVR beyond visual range missile, only nigeria has BRV missiles called Aspide. dont deceive yourself, south africa is NOT buying any BRV long or medium range missile in the nearest future, as your military will remain with only short range missiles for a long time . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:37am On Dec 02, 2013 |
Mike..ZA: congo DRC is NOT a war since you guys say nigerian action in liberia and sierra leone are not wars, so stop quoting anything about south african army in Congo DRC fact remains that Sweden your master has ZERO modern war experience and is NOT better than nigeria in that area. try to accept facts when you are proved wrong dude, be a mature man . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:46am On Dec 02, 2013 |
Mike..ZA: nigerian palmaria mobile artillery entered service in Italy in 1982, while south african G6 Rhino artillery entered service in 1987, both guns are 1980`s generation and both have modern operational systems and almost at par in many aspects. palmaria artillery is still one of the best in the world and in service with NATO. making the regular fake noise about south african G6 artillery does NOT make the gun any greater than it really is, go sit down men ! . |
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