Meti99:
Op, for your little mind now, the Pastor preached about tithes because of the noise some arrogant guys make on internet. You must be deluded.

I happen to be in finance department in my church and without pastor preaching about tithes,I observed that the church tithes has increased considerably even after all the noise on net.

The Pastors you condemn are wiser and more stable than all the folks who make dirty noises on internet.

If you know the strength and capacity of establishments they control, your mind will stagger.
Oyedepo alone controls churches of over 5,000 parishes around the world, a weak mind can't do that.
He controls universities and intelligent gurus who are authorities in their fields. A weakling will never attempt such.

It takes a very intelligent man to do that consistently over the years. If your fore fathers had owed his generation any dime and the man is collecting it now, then I don't think there is a crime in that.


Rather than make headless noise, please put your mind to work and make money.

Envy is counting other peoples blessings, why not count yours.
Your noise don't disturb anything

felixomor:

Nonsense

lonelydora:


Shows how shallow your knowledge of the bible is. Go and read the story of Issac when Abraham wanted to sacrifice him. Did he also steal the ram?

Firstcitizen:


Donkey what does that mean? Why would anyone challenge them if he owned them. Chai,so he stole them abi chai
You be real donkey

felixomor:
How do you know that Jesus wont have driven Bentley or any of those cars?
See,
If you want to ask for financial accountability, thats a different topic.

Dont confuse things up. Bentley, Ferrari etc was not made for only demons to drive.

felixomor:
How do you know that Jesus wont have driven Bentley or any of those cars?
See,
If you want to ask for financial accountability, thats a different topic.

Dont confuse things up. Bentley, Ferrari etc was not made for only demons to drive.

If you start preaching against people paying tithe because you saw preacher riding in those cars, you are only preaching according to strife from the flesh
Thats what Freeze is doing

Freeze is like Judas who only remembered the poor when perfume worth thousands of dollars was poured on Jesus feet.
Meanwhile he was a thief in secret.

Many people will finish preaching against tithe, claiming poor people are everywhere yet go home and spend ten times in club house and purchase internet bundle.
Freeze falls into this category.

These same people want to go to the same heaven that the early Christians who sold 100% of their belongings went to.

There is God.
Stop preaching out of fleshly strife.

felixomor:

Even a kid wont borrow someone who spoke in such manner
ediort
Get a dictionary and check the meaning of "borrow"

Firstcitizen:


Okay he stole them abi Donkey

felixomor:


Thats the point
You are an anomaly

Built2last:
My pastor has spoken about tight in the last one week more than any other thing.
I just look at the faces of people. An invited pastor preached on it for one hour.

The pastor was not able to establish that Jesus nor any of His disciples collected tithe. Bible was clear that it was contribution the early church made to expand.

Those against tithe says it's one of the laws of the old testament but Abraham and Jacob paid tithe in faith over 400years before God made it a law through Moses. The new testament believer was urged to live by faith to enjoy Abraham's blessings on earth. We live by faith. Pay your tithe if you have and appreciate God for His faithfulness and leave the judgement of mismanagement to be of God. Remember the poor, give and support the poor.

Here is my opinion. Tithe is necessary but should not be mandatory like some will distribute tithe cards and monitor tithers.

I pay my tithe and will pay till I die. reason is simple. I am one of the few privileged Nigerians that has enough to do my basic needs and affect few lives around me. I have a few orphanage homes me and my family support often. I take my kids while we visit those homes to let them know that whatever they have is a Privilege and gift from God. The difference between them and the kids of those orphanage homes is the grace of God as no kid chose his parents before showing up on earth. I conveniently pay my tithe to help propagate the gospel. I don't want to show up in church and here my pastor is not around because he was looking for food for his family or searching for school fees for his kids. A pastor should concentrate and minister the word. Reason God refused the Levites to work in Israel till this day for those who practice mosaic law and Judaism. In my opinion, the 1k dropped in the offering basket won't do the do job enough.

What is my gross like many others with the pastors in Nigeria

Pastors frighten members with devourers if they dont pay tithe. They also tell you that the windows of heaven will not be opened to you if you don't pay tithe. It's a lie. Jesus is God's ultimate gift to humanity. In him is everything. When the Jesus died and that Curtain tore from bottom to top. It gave us access to the father for all things. There is no curse for not paying tithe.

Mission work and evangelism is dieing in Nigeria and the church is not paying attention to that enough.

The message of salvation, faith justice and mercy which Christ preached has been replaced with prosperity, fame and self gratification.

Pastors have gone mundane and flash your tithe in your very face with reckless abandon.

If Jesus or Paul the apostle managed a church in 21st century. They won't have Bentley, Ferrari, Lamborghini and several SUVs parked in their garage when members are hungry or many parts of the world have not heard the gospel.

A large population of church members in Nigeria are poor. The church is not paying enough attention to these poor people. The money spent in buying one Bentley will buy 3buses that will take care of people who may never have a car. The poor will always be among us Jesus said.

Pastors have become demigods and inaccessible. So much security around them that you dare not go close.

You build schools and your church members can't afford it. Jesus won't do that.

You can't differentiate when a pastor is moving from when politician is moving.

Missionaries around Nigeria are suffering and struggling to pay their children school fees while pastors leave large in luxury.

Their children school abroad ,they build schools here and members can't afford it.


The free the sheeple Movement is gaining ground because there is no financial accountability in many Churches.


If people can tell the good course their money is used for, we will not have people like Freeze questioning their actions.


Share your experience since the movement started

olabrad:


[s]It's a norm for a fool to frantically cover his stupidity when exposed.

Anencephaly isn't compatible with life. But an idiotic fool won't know[/s].

felixomor:


Sharrrap. Anomaly

felixomor:
How do you know that Jesus wont have driven Bentley or any of those cars?
See,
If you want to ask for financial accountability, thats a different topic.

Dont confuse things up. Bentley, Ferrari etc was not made for only demons to drive.

If you start preaching against people paying tithe because you saw preacher riding in those cars, you are only preaching according to strife from the flesh
Thats what Freeze is doing

Freeze is like Judas who only remembered the poor when perfume worth thousands of dollars was poured on Jesus feet.
Meanwhile he was a thief in secret.

Many people will finish preaching against tithe, claiming poor people are everywhere yet go home and spend ten times in club house and purchase internet bundle.
Freeze falls into this category.

These same people want to go to the same heaven that the early Christians who sold 100% of their belongings went to.

There is God.
Stop preaching out of fleshly strife.

Ucheamani:

Hell No! Jesus wouldn't have ridden on Bentley and expensive cars because he owned no property haven stored his treasures in heaven.
Jesus borrowed a donkey to enter Jerusalem when horses, Camels and Chariots were readily available. Truth, there is nothing Christlike in today's churches

felixomor:


then keep the advice

felixomor:


Please show us the part of the bible where the bolded is written

TribesNG:


Lol you were the one that quote verse just now, i don quote another verse give you na u con dey run. Bro feel free to sin and to be deceived by a sinner, on the last day you'll regret ever being deceived by Freeze.

texazzpete:


Lmao.
So if I say, “Jesus never chased women” you’d also ask me where that exact phrase is written In The Bible?

Show me where Jesus rode on the finest horses and in a chariot...the biblical equivalent of a Bentley.

felixomor:


Sharrrap. Anomaly

felixomor:


Jacob also tithed
Go and study

Stop using Freeze as Bible

felixomor:

Oga, grace is not a modification of law
Grace is a fulfillment of the law
In all honesty, try to start studying the bible for yourself

Abraham tithed once because he came across Melchizedek once in his pilgrimage.
Melchizedek priesthood was a very rare one
And hard to come by

Today Christ is our Melchizedek (Psalm 110:4)
If you pay tithe to the body of Christ wether once, monthly, yearly,
God will not be angry
We now have the body of Christ as Melchizedek continuously with us.
So there is no excuse.

If you feel your local church isnt part of the body of Christ, then that's a different topic.
Look for a bible believing church

savagefinder:

Malachi was buttressing the importance of tithe and the only given law about tithing was expressly denoted in Deuteronomy.

TribesNG:


LWKMD so when Malachi said 'Bring all your tithe to the storehouse so there may be meat in my house' he was wasn't talking about tithe? Ignorant athiest.

felixomor:

Tithe already existed before Deuteronomy
Before the law, tithe already existed

Go and study.
Stop following Freeze

savagefinder:


It seems you are selectively ignorant..
I said it that it buttresses the importance of tithe, the same thing which the Bible verse said..

The question here isn't "should we tithe?", the question is "how should we tithe?", should we follow what the Bible teaches and states clearly or follow what our Pastors say and interpret the Bible to be?

felixomor:

Oga, grace is not a modification of law
Grace is a fulfillment of the law
In all honesty, try to start studying the bible for yourself

Abraham tithed once because he came across Melchizedek once in his pilgrimage.
Melchizedek priesthood was a very rare one
And hard to come by

Today Christ is our Melchizedek (Psalm 110:4)
If you pay tithe to the body of Christ wether once, monthly, yearly,
God will not be angry
We now have the body of Christ as Melchizedek continuously with us.
So there is no excuse.

If you feel your local church isnt part of the body of Christ, then that's a different topic.
Look for a bible believing church