Kobojunkie:
RightChannel, Look, the doctrines of your MFM leader, Daniel Olukoya, are all pretty much taken from the book of Babalawo craft. Every utterance your leader hides behind the many mentions of the name of God is antichrist. Pick any one of his sermons if you don't agree and we can easily dissect it against the Truth of God as written right there in Scripture. Unless what it is is that you are afraid of being hit with the reality of your condition under the lies you feed from this man, which is understandable since a lot of you religious folks believe you are nothing without the delusions you have built your world around to this point in time, a lie by the way. So, again, pick a doctrine of his, and we go from there. it is that simple.

You're tired?

Rightchannel, here's one we can bite down and process https://www.nairaland.com/7679964/problem-placenta-bondage-dr-olukoya#122977608

I have time for it so are you ready to dissect it against the Truth of Jesus Christ Himself? Or are you going to chicken out again?

RightChannel:
You're tired?

I was busy with some other things but now I am done with them and able to give you the attention you have been seeking all this while.

Kobojunkie:
I was busy with some other things but now I am done with them and able to give you the attention you have been seeking all this while.

Answer the question you left unanswered

RightChannel:



Show me one doctrine preached by Pastors JUST ONE not two or three that was taken directly from the scripts of babalawos that makes MFM members traditionalists

Kobojunkie:
Rightchannel, here's one we can bite down and process https://www.nairaland.com/7679964/problem-placenta-bondage-dr-olukoya#122977608

I have time for it so are you ready to dissect it against the Truth of Jesus Christ Himself? Or are you going to chicken out again?

Is like your sense is finally back, so how does THE PROBLEM OF PLACENTAL BONDAGE in which he picked his text from Job 40:16 has to do with the scripts of babalawos?

RightChannel:
■ Is like your sense is finally back, so how does THE PROBLEM OF PLACENTAL BONDAGE in which he picked his text from Job 40:16 has to do with the scripts of babalawos?

Is this an attempt at a trick question?

God2man2again:
■ Topic: THE PROBLEM OF PLACENTAL BONDAGE
Text: Job 40:16
Minister: Dr. Daniel Olukoya (G.O. MFM Worldwide)
■ Today is a day of serious prayers. We are delving into the realm of mysterious problems. Very soon, the marathon prayer meeting to break placental bondage will start, but before it starts, right there where you are seated, I want you to listen to a short message so that you can understand why we are praying the prayers and also engage your spirit in that prayer and get testimonies out of it. It is always safe to overpray; underpraying is not good; not keeping quiet and allowing the enemy to overpower you. Bow down your head on your seat and tell the Lord to open your understanding here today.
Job 40:16 (KJV) says: "Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly."
■ Our scripture describes almost three things at the same time. Describing:
- the placenta and the power it carries.
- the umbilical cord and the power it carries.
- your belly button and the power it carries.

1. Here's Job 40 vs 16 presented in real light

15 “Look at the behemoth. I made the behemoth, and I made you. He eats grass like a cow.
16 But he(the behemoth) has great strength in his body. The muscles in his stomach are powerful.
17 His (the behemoth's) tail stands strong like a cedar tree. His (the behemoth's) leg muscles are very strong.
18 His(the behemoth's) bones are as strong as bronze. His (the behemoth's) legs are like iron bars.
19 The behemoth is the most amazing animal I made, but I can defeat him.
20 He (the behemoth) eats the grass that grows on the hills where the wild animals play.
21 He (the behemoth) lies under the lotus plants. He (the behemoth) hides among the reeds of the swamp.
22 The lotus plants hide him (the behemoth) in their shade. He (the behemoth) lives under the willow trees that grow near the river.
23 If the river floods, the behemoth will not run away. He (the behemoth) is not afraid if the Jordan River splashes on his(the behemoth's) face.
24 No one can blind his (the behemoth's) eyes and capture him (the behemoth). No one can catch him (the behemoth) in a trap. - Job 40 vs 15 - 24

2. There is the obvious issue of public prayer, which Jesus Christ said is solely the realm of the Pharisees and Sadducees. Nor am I going to address the fact that God made clear He does not answer the prayers of the unrighteous; the prayers, offerings, praises, giving, "good" work, pleas, etc., of the unrighteous, are an abomination to God. Any righteous man would be more than aware of that since He would have had to endure God's silence before finally attaining righteousness by the standard of God.

But anyways, this man proceeds to preach to you — his followers— by extracting out-of-context a verse about an animal God boasts of haven created and then asserts that his own(olukoya's) private interpretation of that one verse should rather apply, not only to your person but your entire existence. Isn't that the thing only a Babalawo would do?

3. If not by the power of great delusion(lies), how can extract Placenta, Belly button, and Umbilical cord from that one verse and then claim they all each carry power? No be Juju be that? And is Juju not squarely within the realm of Babalawos?

Kobojunkie:
Is this an attempt at a trick question? 1. Here's Job 40 vs 16 presented in real light


2. There is the obvious issue of public prayer, which Jesus Christ said is solely the realm of the Pharisees and Sadducees. Nor am I going to address the fact that God made clear He does not answer the prayers of the unrighteous; the prayers, offerings, praises, giving, "good" work, pleas, etc., of the unrighteous, are an abomination to God. Any righteous man would be more than aware of that since He would have had to endure God's silence before finally attaining righteousness by the standard of God.

But anyways, this man proceeds to preach to you — his followers— by extracting out-of-context a verse about an animal God boasts of haven created and then asserts that his own(olukoya's) private interpretation of that one verse should rather apply, not only to your person but your entire existence. Isn't that the thing only a Babalawo would do?

3. If not by the power of great delusion(lies), how can extract Placenta, Belly button, and Umbilical cord from that one verse and then claim they all each carry power? No be Juju be that? And is Juju not squarely within the realm of Babalawos?

Kobojunkie:

anyways, this man proceeds to preach to you — his followers
— by extracting out of context a verse about an animal God
created and then asserts that his personal interpretation of that
one version applies, not only to your person but your entire
existence. Isn't that the thing only a Babalawo would do?

So since you've been in existence right there in your village, babalawo has power to create an animal not to talk of putting power in the muscles of the belly bah?

RightChannel:
■ So since you've been in existence right there in your village, babalawo has power to create an animal not to talk of putting power in the muscles of the belly bah?

As expected, an unintelligible response.

1. Who said anything about Babalawo creating an animal abeg?
2. The verse spoke of the Behemoth that God created— not an umbilical cord or powers in the muscles of the belly—but the Behemoth itself. Why in the world would anyone compare that which applies to a behemoth's stomach muscles to a man?

Kobojunkie:
As expected, an unintelligible response.

1. Who said anything about Babalawo creating an animal abeg?
2. The verse spoke of the Behemoth that God created— not an umbilical cord or powers in the muscles of the belly—but the Behemoth itself. Why in the world would anyone compare that which applies to a behemoth's stomach muscles to a man?

Shey God and Babalawo are now in the same category? Why comparing God's power with that of your village people (babalawos)

I will only pray to God to give you sense because you're senseless. Someone picked his reference from the word of God (Bible) all you could say is that it's out of context

RightChannel:
■ Shey God and Babalawo are now in the same category? Why comparing God's power with that of your village people (babalawos)
■ I will only pray to God to give you sense because you're senseless. Someone picked his reference from the word of God (Bible) all you could say is that it's out of context

See me see wahala abeg! Again with the unintelligible responses!

How can God be the Babalawo when Olukoya is the Babalawo who attempted to assert that God's creature's stomach muscles compare to the power that rules over the existence of a man?

How can God be the Babalawo when Olukoya is the Babalawo who instead asserts that there is such a thing as placental, umbilical, and maybe even belly button bondage all from one verse where God boasts of the Behemoth which He created?

2. Your Babalawo leader picked a verse out of context he probably did not even realize was God Himself boasting of the Behemoth which he created. Then, Olukoya proceeded to spin what are terrible lies into — not even the entire verse, but just the last half of it— a snippet from the verse about his delusions regarding bondage. Na real Juju that be!

Kobojunkie:
See me see wahala abeg! Again with the unintelligible responses!

How can God be the Babalawo when Olukoya is the Babalawo who attempted to assert that God's creature's stomach muscles compare to the power that rules over the existence of a man?

How can God be the Babalawo when Olukoya is the Babalawo who instead asserts that there is such a thing as placental, umbilical, and maybe even belly button bondage all from one verse where God boasts of the Behemoth which He created?

2. Your Babalawo leader picked a verse out of context he probably did not even realize was God Himself boasting of the Behemoth which he created. Then, Oyekoya proceeded to spin what are terrible lies into — not even the entire verse, but just the last half of it— a snippet from the verse about his delusions regarding bondage. Na real Juju that be!

The book of Job he picked was from your village people babalawo's scripts right?

You ought to show me one doctrine preached that was taken directly from the scripts of your babalawos or the manuscript of your village people (babalawos) has Job 40:16 therein?


You'll only keep on creating more problems for yourself

RightChannel:
■ The book of Job he picked was from your village people babalawo's scripts right? You ought to show me one doctrine preached that was taken directly from the scripts of your babalawos or the manuscript of your village people (babalawos) has Job 40:16 therein? You'll only keep on creating more problems for yourself

I find it laughable that you are seriously trying to put up a defense of this man's foolishness!

Nothing of what Olukoya claimed in the entirety of his long sermon — not even bondage or placenta or umbilical cord nor belly button comes from the excerpt he pretended to pull off of the mention of stomach muscles in that one verse— so where do you think it may all have come from if not from a babalawo's script?
ROFLMAO

Kobojunkie:
I find it laughable that you are seriously trying to put up a defense of this man's foolishness!

Nothing of what Olukoya claimed in the entirety of his long sermon — not even bondage or placenta or umbilical cord nor belly button comes from the excerpt he pretended to pull off of the mention of stomach muscles in that one verse— so where do you think it may all have come from if not from a babalawo's script?
ROFLMAO

You are the one displaying how foolish you are. In your previous post, you said the doctrines of your leader are all pretty much taken from the book of babalawo craft.

Kobojunkie:
The doctrines of your leader are all pretty much taken from the book of babalawo craft. Every utterance your leader hides behind the many mentions of the name or God is antichrist. Pick any single one of his sermons if you don't agree and we can easily dissect it against the Truth of God as written right there in Scripture.

Is Job 40:16 He picked his references from the book of your village people babalawo's craft?

RightChannel:
You are the one displaying how foolish you are. In your previous post, you said the doctrines of your leader are all pretty much taken from the book of babalawo craft. Is Job 40:16 He picked his references from the book of your village people babalawo's craft?

Let's continue ... since you think denial makes sense

God2man2again:
■ The placenta is an organ that links the foetus to the mother and transfers oxygen and food to the foetus and waste products to the mother. In the last few years, a lot of things that many people do not understand have caged their destinies. The thing is this: there is no new devil. It is still the same old devil, but he is using our ignorance against us, and this is a great trouble. What is the placenta? It is an organ that develops in pregnant women. It produces chemicals that maintain pregnancy and help regulate the baby's development. Minutes after the baby is born, the placenta separates from the womb. It is an organ that joins the baby to its mother. It is an organ that connects the baby to the mother. Although the placenta is a physical organ, many do not recognise its spiritual significance. It is also a spiritual pipeline. It has a spiritual counterpart. The enemy knows this very well, and the enemy has exploited the mystery of the placenta to divert multitudes of destinies.
■ Ignorance is indeed a terrible thing. Giving birth as a whole is a bloody business, and life is inside that blood. The placenta has very serious implications for a man's life. Blood from placental tissues, too, has very serious implications. A lady doctor was still a virgin and could not get anybody to marry her at the age of 50 until she came across what I am sharing today, and God revealed to her that she should go and ask her parents what was done with her placenta when she was born. She went to her parents and asked, "Mummy, what was done to my placenta when I was born?" And they said, "Ah. A witch doctor told us to hang it in the attic". So, at the age of 50, her placenta was still available but hanging in the attic. And as long as they had it there, her life was hanging. The majority of the people gathered here cannot tell us specifically what was done to their placenta. They cannot tell us what was done with it. The enemy has exploited this mystery to cause a lot of havoc...

1. So, this man, Olukoya supposedly quotes from a verse that has nothing to do with the placenta or umbilical cord or even a belly button and then proceeds to then assert that there is bondage associated with exactly those organs which are neither mentioned nor implied by what is in fact written in the verse. Then he moves on to assert that this bondage he imagines of these organs has to do with a devil. Why does it sound so much like this man has his Ph.D., not in the things of God, but rather in demonology— the study of demons and devils, and their influence?

2. He proceeds to concoct stories in support of his delusions. The vast majority of human placentas are tossed after birth since it has not until recently been known to be of use. But see how Olukoya uses this fact to assert that not knowing is of his spiritual dimensions and associated with demons and devils. Again, recall, Olukoya began down this path after reading from a completely unrelated Job 40 vs 16. Imagine the level of coy and misdirection that he employs here to shift the attention of his followers from scripture to that which is incoherent and utter bullsheet just like that. And his gullible followers continue to eat it all up as if their lives depend on all he spews.

Kobojunkie:
Let's continue ... since you think denial makes sense 1. So, this man, Olukoya supposedly quotes from a verse that has nothing to do with the placenta or umbilical cord or even a belly button and then proceeds to then assert that there is bondage associated with exactly those organs which are neither mentioned nor implied by what is in fact written in the verse. Then he moves on to assert that this bondage he imagines of these organs has to do with a devil. Why does it sound so much like this man has his Ph.D., not in the things of God, but rather in demonology— the study of demons and devils, and their influence?

2. He proceeds to concoct stories in support of his delusions. The vast majority of human placentas are tossed after birth since it has not until recently been known to be of use. But see how Olukoya uses this fact to assert that not knowing is of his spiritual dimensions and associated with demons and devils. Again, recall, Olukoya began down this path after reading from a completely unrelated Job 40 vs 16. Imagine the level of coy and misdirection that he employs here to shift the attention of his followers from scripture to that which is incoherent and utter bullsheet just like that. And his gullible followers continue to eat it all up as if their lives depend on all he spews.

BEFORE WE CONTINUE, CLARIFY YOUR FIRST ALLEGATION. The book of Job 40:16 he picked his references from, was it taken from the book of your village people babalawo's craft? YES or NO is the answer I want from you

RightChannel:
BEFORE WE CONTINUE, CLARIFY YOUR FIRST ALLEGATION. The book of Job 40:16 he picked his references from, was it taken from the book of your village people babalawo's craft? YES or NO is the answer I want from you

Yet more denial... let's continue ....

God2man2again:
■ I am praying for someone here today that every placental bondage that has kept you in a stagnant position and you do not even know about it, in the name which is above all names, Jesus Christ, the son of the living God, I command that bondage to be broken now! in the name of Jesus.
■ Some families preserve the placenta for consumption. They eat it. We have had a case like that here in MFM in 1993. And when it got to that situation, I sent that sister back to her grandmother to find out what was going wrong. She would get a good job, and in two months, she would be sacked. She had a first class, had a distinction, and was even getting requests to pursue a PhD. But she could not keep a job for longer than two months. So I asked her to go back to her grandmother to ask questions. She did, and the grandmother said, "I am inside of you, and you are inside of me. So I control your life". The lady said, "I reject it in Jesus name!" The woman said, "You can say that. But when you were born, I collected your placenta, I cooked okro soup with it, and I ate everything. So I am inside of you, and you are inside of me." Can you raise your right hand and shout: Every unconscious bondage troubling my destiny, die! in the name of Jesus.
■ [b]The Bible says "His strength is in his loins, his force is in the navel of his belly". There are situations where someone's placenta is converted into a waist band. There are cases where somebody's placenta was buried in a cursed land, and so the person became cursed. There are cases where some people's placentas were fed to crocodiles. There are cases where a placenta was poorly buried, and pigs dug it up and ate it. It affects people. It seriously affects people's lives.[/b]

1. Without so much as a real explanation or at least a correlation of any sort, Olukoya immediately asserts he has been praying for something that supposedly has his placental bondage and wraps this dubious lie in the mention of the name of Jesus Christ and the same God whose precedence he completely ignored when he quoted earlier from Job 40 vs 16.

2. Olukoya adds yet another fantabulous take to arouse his already deceived crowd even further with a tale of how a grandmother was able to eat her grandchild's placenta and how that equally means the grandmother is inside the grandchild. In many cultures, the placenta is eaten by the family and nothing is made of such traditions. But somehow Olukoya crafts his own tale to delude his followers into believing his unscriptural tale of placenta bondage, which he continues to push without even one intelligent being standing up to question the obvious which is his tales do not connect to Jesus Christ or even what is written in Job 40 vs 16. With that irrational story, he has concluded that placenta bondage troubles destinies and wraps it up by claiming prayer and mentioning yet again Jesus Christ, who Olukoya never quoted nor even cares to know.

3. Olukoya again quotes from the verse it is clear at this point he has no real understanding for nor cares to know the meaning as he is more interested in pushing his delusion and making sure he feeds his crowd his lies at all costs.

Kobojunkie:
Yet more denial... let's continue .... 1. Without so much as a real explanation or at least a correlation of any sort, Olukoya immediately asserts he has been praying for something that supposedly has his placental bondage and wraps this dubious lie in the mention of the name of Jesus Christ and the same God whose precedence he completely ignored when he quoted earlier from Job 40 vs 16.

2. Olukoya adds yet another fantabulous take to arouse his already deceived crowd even further with a tale of how a grandmother was able to eat her grandchild's placenta and how that equally means the grandmother is inside the grandchild. In many cultures, the placenta is eaten by the family and nothing is made of such traditions. But somehow Olukoya crafts his own tale to delude his followers into believing his unscriptural tale of placenta bondage, which he continues to push without even one intelligent being standing up to question the obvious which is his tales do not connect to Jesus Christ or even what is written in Job 40 vs 16. With that irrational story, he has concluded that placenta bondage troubles destinies and wraps it up by claiming prayer and mentioning yet again Jesus Christ, who Olukoya never quoted nor even cares to know.

3. Olukoya again quotes from the verse it is clear at this point he has no real understanding for nor cares to know the meaning as he is more interested in pushing his delusion and making sure he feeds his crowd his lies at all costs.

Is this question hard again?

RightChannel:


BEFORE WE CONTINUE, CLARIFY YOUR FIRST ALLEGATION. The book of Job 40:16 he picked his references from, was it taken from the book of your village people babalawo's craft? YES or NO is the answer I want from you

RightChannel:
■ Is this question hard again?

You must be under some sort of delirium that you can play the same trick Olukoya plays on you lot on everybody else. That sort of misdirection and coy only works on gullible close-minded folks such as yourself.

So, since you seem unable to respond appropriately, I will take it that you are working hard to deny the obvious still, and use that as signal to continue on through the rest of the sermon then. This is what you have been yearning for for weeks now so no let's get it over with.

Kobojunkie:
You must be under some sort of delirium that you can play the same trick Olukoya plays on you lot on everybody else. That sort of misdirection and coy only works on gullible close-minded folks such as yourself.

So, since you seem unable to respond appropriately, I will take it that you are working hard to deny the obvious still, and use that as signal to continue on through the rest of the sermon then. This is what you have been yearning for for weeks now so no let's get it over with.

You lost your senses when typing this nonsense earlier before right?

Kobojunkie:
The doctrines of your leader are all pretty much taken from the book of babalawo craft. Every utterance your leader hides behind the many mentions of the name or God is antichrist. Pick any single one of his sermons if you don't agree and we can easily dissect it against the Truth of God as written right there in Scripture.

RightChannel:
You lost your senses when typing this nonsense earlier before right?

Continuing ...

God2man2again:
■ There are cases where a person's placenta is buried and a tree is planted on it. What happens is this: whatever happens to that tree that is on top of that placenta is what happens to the person in real life. When the wind blows the tree, the person is blown. When leaves drop, the person drops in glory. There are 100s of people here tonight whose trees are planted on their placentas, and those trees determine the course of their destinies. What we are saying tonight may be very strange, which is why I need to explain it very well to you before we start praying.
Many years ago, a 72-year-old man came here for deliverance. That is why it is good to pray: "My Father, visit me in the morning of my life, not when it is setting. At the age of 72, I have never seen anybody like that old man with his photographic memory. At that age, if this man sat down in a meeting of about 40 people as a secretary and everybody talked, all he did was look at the face of each person while they talked and take note. Then, after the meeting, he would pick up his pen and begin to write down, word for word, what each person said. He would never forget. But in spite of that, he was as poor as a church rat with all that intelligence.

So he started deliverance at 72. When he was born, he was the only child of his parents, and the native doctor who was there said, "Ah! This boy. This boy. His glory is not in this country. His glory is outside this country. I see this boy controlling white men. That is where his destiny is". His parents were sad. Then they asked the native doctor, "Are you saying he will not live in Nigeria?" The native doctor replied, "Yes, because his destiny is not here. His destiny is with the white people. He is a great man who is going to have honour and respect." Then the parents said, "Native doctor, what do we do so that he does not leave Nigeria?"

■ The native doctor said, "Oh, you do not want him to leave? Okay, bring his placenta", and the parents handed the placenta over to the man who went to the lagoon somewhere in Lagos, tied a big stone to the placenta, and issued some incantations on the placenta, saying that as stone does not float in water and as the placenta sinks to the bottom, the man would never ever leave Nigeria. That is how his woes started. It was when he started deliverance that a letter that had invited him to Sweden ten years prior arrived. No one knew at what post office that letter had been. He received this letter at the age of 72. Now let me ask you a question: Do you want to be like this old man?
Then, in that case, when I say begin to pray, get ready to pray. The wrong handling of placentas is being used by the enemy to cause havoc. Beloveth, do you know that a placenta is the next best thing to a living person? It almost behaves like a human being. It is the only easily obtainable piece of human tissue that is not dead or diseased. It can actually be kept alive for 5 hours by scientists. This has a serious spiritual implications. When there is life, there is spirit.

Note that up to this even this point in the entire preaching session, Olukoya has not provided even one scriptural backing for any of the claims and stories he has told in reference to his placental bondage rant — not a single one.

1. Now, the man enters a session of telling more fantastical stories. Stories that obviously cannot be verified elsewhere. The supposed victim is not named, nor is any evidence provided that can be used to verify his claims. He does this because, like the entertainer that he is, his audience is lost in his many lies at this point in the show.

2. Now, we find that his placenta bondage theory is in fact known by, guess it, Babalawos aka Native doctors @RightChannel. So, here we see that the placenta bondage diagnosis in fact came from a Babalawo, and so Olukoya even proceeds to pray based on the same Placenta Bondage diagnosis that a Babalawo gave to a supposed 72-year-old man. Do you see what I said now?

Kobojunkie:
Continuing ... Note that up to this even this point in the entire preaching session, Olukoya has not provided even one scriptural backing for any of the claims and stories he has told in reference to his placental bondage rant — not a single one.

1. Now, the man enters a session of telling more fantastical stories. Stories that obviously cannot be verified elsewhere. The supposed victim is not named, nor is any evidence provided that can be used to verify his claims. He does this because, like the entertainer that he is, his audience is lost in his many lies at this point in the show.

2. Now, we find that his placenta bondage theory is in fact known by, guess it, Babalawos aka Native doctors @RightChannel. So, here we see that the placenta bondage diagnosis in fact came from a Babalawo, and so Olukoya even proceeds to pray based on the same Placenta Bondage diagnosis that a Babalawo gave to a supposed 72-year-old man. Do you see what I said now?

You're still ranting instead to do justice to what you started, you're rather beating around the bush while trying to shift the goal post

Kobojunkie:

The doctrines of your leader are all pretty much taken from the book of babalawo craft. Every utterance your leader hides behind the many mentions of the name or God is antichrist. Pick any single one of his sermons if you don't agree and we can easily dissect it against the Truth of God as written right there in Scripture. undecided

YES or NO will settle this matter

RightChannel:


BEFORE WE CONTINUE, CLARIFY YOUR FIRST ALLEGATION. The book of Job 40:16 he picked his references from, was it taken from the book of your village people babalawo's craft? YES or NO is the answer I want from you

RightChannel:
■ You're still ranting instead to do justice to what you started, you're rather beating around the bush while trying to shift the goal post
YES or NO will settle this matter

Oh, well, I guess this means I should continue further analysis

God2man2again:
■ You may say, "Mine was buried" or "Mine was thrown into the water, so what do I do?" If it was buried and you already have an enemy targeting you, the land demons are waiting for you there. If it was thrown into the water, the water spirits are waiting for you there. A tree was planted on top of it? Your destiny will be tied to that tree. It was thrown into the bush? The forest demons will be waiting for you there. It was flushed? The land and water spirits are waiting for you there. The enemy has something called placental manipulation or placental witchcraft. Once your placenta is in the bank of the enemy, the legal backing for your harassment is already created.
■ But thank God that the Bible says "Even the lawful captives shall be delivered and set free".
■ Some throw the placenta into a dustbin, but it has not escaped from their hands. Some throw it into the gutter, but it has not escaped from their hands. Some forget it in the hospitals, and sometimes the hospitals later sell it off, but it is still not free. Some grind it and use it for cosmetics, but it is still not free from their hands. Some eat it up, but it is still not free from their hands. Some throw it into the river, but it is still not free from their hands. Some surrender it to idols, and that one is even more terrible. Some feed it to animals. Some put cracks in the wall and put it in there. Some sundry it and keep it, but it is still not free from their hands. Some mix it with herbs for soup, but it is still not free from their hands. Some burn it to ashes and mix it with the mother's food, but it is still not free from their hands. Some keep it in a bottle and then label it. Then, the day they are offended, they take the bottle containing the placenta and begin to issue curses on it. Some wrap it around sacred trees, but it is still not free from their hands. Some offer it as a sacrifice at crossroads, but it is still not free from their hands. Some use it directly as charm and fetish power, a kind of alternative to grinding babies, but it is still not free from their hands. Some cut it into pieces, cook it, and unconsciously serve it to their visitors, but it is still not free from their hands.

1. Olukoya now descends deep into identifying every work of the enemy/demons as one well-tutored in the mind and ways of demons would. He convinces his audience of the hopelessness of their situation to send them panicking, by adding stories upon filthy lies of how demons are everywhere out to get them.

2. Finally, he introduced his second scriptural quote, but only like the first, he also quotes, again, out of context. A look at the scriptural soundbite in context reveals that the verse, again, has nothing to do with placenta bondage, and is not meant for this time and not a place like Nigeria either.

15 But the Lord says, “Can a woman forget her baby? Can she forget the child who came from her body? Even if she can forget her children, I cannot forget you.
16 I drew a picture of you on my hand. You are always before my eyes.[a]
17 Your children will come back to you, and those who destroyed you will leave.
18 Look up! Look all around you! All of your children are gathering together and coming to you.” The Lord says, “On my life, I promise you this: Your children will be like jewels that you tie around your neck. Your children will be like the necklace that a bride wears.
19 “You are destroyed and defeated now. Your land is useless. But after a short time, you will have many people in your land. And those who destroyed you will be far, far away.
20 You were sad for the children you lost, but they will tell you, ‘This place is too small! Give us a bigger place to live!’
21 Then you will say to yourself, ‘Who gave me all these children? I was sad and lonely. My children were taken away. They were gone. So who gave me these children? Look, I was the only one left. Where did all these children come from?’”
22 This is what the Lord God says: “Look, I will wave my hand to the nations. I will raise my flag for everyone to see. Then they will bring your children to you. They will carry your children on their shoulders, and they will hold them in their arms.
23 Kings will be their teachers. The daughters of kings will care for them. The kings and their daughters will bow down to you. They will kiss the dirt at your feet. Then you will know that I am the Lord, and anyone who trusts in me will not be disappointed.”
24 If a strong soldier takes a prisoner, can you set him free? If a powerful soldier guards someone, can the prisoner escape?
25 Here is the Lord’s answer: “The prisoners will escape. Those captured by the strong soldier will be set free. That’s because I will fight your battles, and I will save your children.
26 Those people hurt you, but I will force them to eat their own bodies. Their own blood will be the wine that makes them drunk. Then everyone will know that the Lord saved you. Everyone will know that the Powerful One of Jacob saved you.” - Isaiah 49 vs 15 - 26

As you can see, even the second verse of scripture Olukoya pulled off during his sermon has no connection whatsoever to be drawn to any of the claims he made of his Placenta bondage doctrine, his many assertions regarding demons, spirits, placental histories.

3. And then Olukoya jumps right back to spewing fantastical stories yet again.

Kobojunkie:
Oh, well, I guess this means I should continue further analysis 1. Olukoya now descends deep into identifying every work of the enemy/demons as one well-tutored in the mind and ways of demons would. He convinces his audience of the hopelessness of their situation to send them panicking, by adding stories upon filthy lies of how demons are everywhere out to get them.

2. Finally, he introduced his second scriptural quote, but only like the first, he also quotes, again, out of context. A look at the scriptural soundbite in context reveals that the verse, again, has nothing to do with placenta bondage, and is not meant for this time and not a place like Nigeria either.
As you can see, even the second verse of scripture Olukoya pulled off during his sermon has no connection whatsoever to be drawn to any of the claims he made of his Placenta bondage doctrine, his many assertions regarding demons, spirits, placental histories.

3. And then Olukoya jumps right back to spewing fantastical stories yet again.

Just YES or NO will settle this matter then we can continue

RightChannel:


BEFORE WE CONTINUE, CLARIFY YOUR FIRST ALLEGATION. The book of Job 40:16 he picked his references from, was it taken from the book of your village people babalawo's craft? YES or NO is the answer I want from you

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Kobojunkie:

The doctrines of your leader are all pretty much taken from the book of babalawo craft. Every utterance your leader hides behind the many mentions of the name or God is antichrist. Pick any single one of his sermons if you don't agree and we can easily dissect it against the Truth of God as written right there in Scripture. undecided

RightChannel:
Just YES or NO will settle this matter then we can continue Is like your senses enters in coma when typing this nonsense

we continue then....

God2man2again:
Some put it in a cauldron—a pot with salt and water—but it is still not free from their hands. Some bury it in a pot facing a specific direction, but it is still not free from their hands. Some plant coconut trees on top of it or palm trees, but it is still not free from their hands. These are ways in which the enemy gets at the foundation of people's lives and then causes plenty of confusion in their lives.
Evidence of Placental Bondage.
When there is placental bondage in operation, you will be dreaming of going back to where you were born, going back to the land of your birth, or going back to a location you are very familiar with in the spirit realm but physically are not familiar with.
- When someone is under this kind of bondage, there will be closed heavens. Things will not be working at all. If you are a lady, you begin to notice that you are living an identical life with your mother, but only the negative aspects of her life are manifesting in your life. It is evidence of placental bondage.
If everything you want to do is something your mother must always find out about, even if you do not tell her, there is a bondage.
- when somebody is using your glory to prosper.
- when it looks as if you are tied to a post like a goat and you have limitations. Making headway becomes very difficult.
- when you notice that your glory has been cleared away, you have lost your beauty and your glory. You are just staying alive, but you do not know what you are doing with your life. You do not have what they call "spiritual decorations"
- the enemy is gradually reducing you to a shameful skeleton of your glorious past and converting you to wood and stone.
- finances seize and then start. Storms will come, finances will seize, and things will start again. All of these are evidence of placental bondage.
- when the enemy converts the beauty of someone to ashes, it is evidence of placental bondage.
Are you here tonight, and:
- you are pressed down always in your sleep? You need to pray mercilessly tonight.
- You hear strange voices giving you evil commands? You need to aggressively pray tonight.
- you are always encountering dead persons in your dream? It is evidence of placental bondage.
- no matter the prayers you pray, eating in the dream or having sex in the dream do not stop? Placental bondage.
- you dream of being lost?
- You see yourself in strange meetings?
- animals pursue you?
- strange persons pursue you? You pray and pray and pray, but they do not want to let you go?
- you always see blood, and your pregnancy disappears, or you experience unexplainable powerlessness and backwardness? Placental bondage.
- you are always being injected with poison when you sleep? Placental bondage. I want you to understand that ignorance of this is not an excuse. The fact that you do not know is not an excuse. The enemy will still trouble you.
- you are always striving? You work hard to get to the position you want, but you never get there?
- you know that you are not a sick person, you know you do not like being sick, but there is this array of frequent sicknesses? You have a bondage to break.
- something is trying to kill you? You always have one accident after another, and you have dreams of death? You need to pray.
- you have this deep sense of shame, nervousness, fear, jumpiness, always feeling guilty, people always loading the sins of others on you, and severe anxiety? All these happen when you are under placental bondage.
So the way your placenta was disposed of speaks a lot about the cause of your destiny.
What To Do!
1. Surrender your life to Jesus.
2. Bring quality repentance to the Lord. You cannot pray the kind of prayers we want to pray if you are still living in known sin.
3. Locate the placenta by the Holy Spirit.
4. Bind and cast out every inherited spirit of bondage.
5. Withdraw and destroy the placenta.
6. Recover your lost blessings.
The safest way to dispose a placenta is to collect it, dry it up, anoint it, burn it completely to ashes, and throw it away where the enemy cannot gather it again to torment you. Any other method you use, the enemy will be waiting for you there. Tonight is a night of great deliverance.
PRAYER POINTS.
[Before Message]
As I shout the blood of Jesus seven times, every pollution in my blood must disappear!
[After Message]
(Lay one hand on your head and the other on your belly button.) I fire back, every arrow of placental bondage! in the name of Jesus.
PRAYER SESSIONS
(Power Against Evil Conception.)
1. Sorrow in my life, as a result of my birth, expire! in the name of Jesus.
2. Every good thing that died in my life the day I was born, hear the Word of the Lord, come alive! in the name of Jesus.
3. Every problem in my life that followed me from my mother's womb, your time is up; disappear! in the name of Jesus.
(Power Against Womb Contamination)
1. Every contamination from my mother's womb be cleansed by the blood of Jesus!
2. Every bewitchment in my blood, die! in the name of Jesus.
3. (Raise up your two hands to the Lord.) Blood of Jesus, sanitise my blood! Sanitise my womb! in the name of Jesus.
(Power Against Antenatal Care.)
1. Bondage in my life, problem in my life, that came from the womb of my mother, die! in the name of Jesus.
2. Occultic men and women, using the destiny of unborn children to prolong their lives, die! in the name of Jesus.
3. All wombs that have been tied down or under any witchcraft control, right now: receive deliverance! in the name of Jesus.

After quoting out of context two excerpts from verses of scripture, both unrelated to anything he has said and continues to say, this man continues to ramble on, eventually entering some sort of prayer session where he laces every incantation he makes with the mention of the name of Jesus Christ as though any of it has to do with Jesus Christ. A close look at what he is saying and you find he is essentially repeating more lines typically used by Babalawos and witches, all while wrapping them up with the many mentions of the name of Jesus Christ as if to legitimize them.

Kobojunkie:
we continue then.... After quoting out of context two excerpts from verses of scripture, both unrelated to anything he has said and continues to say, this man continues to ramble on, eventually entering some sort of prayer session where he laces every incantation he makes with the mention of the name of Jesus Christ as though any of it has to do with Jesus Christ. A close look at what he is saying and you find he is essentially repeating more lines typically used by Babalawos and witches, all while wrapping them up with the many mentions of the name of Jesus Christ as if to legitimize them.

RightChannel:


Just YES or NO will settle this matter then we can continue




Is like your senses enters in coma when typing this nonsense

Kobojunkie:

The doctrines of your leader are all pretty much taken from the book of babalawo craft. Every utterance your leader hides behind the many mentions of the name or God is antichrist. Pick any single one of his sermons if you don't agree and we can easily dissect it against the Truth of God as written right there in Scripture. undecided

AGAIN

RightChannel:

The book of Job 40:16 he picked his references from, was it taken from the book of your village people babalawo's craft? YES or NO is the answer I want from you