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Re: Gelegele-gbene And The Ijaw, Benin Crisis – Before Edo State Burns by Ubenedictus(m): 5:17pm On Nov 30, 2017
Beosten:


Orisala's priest is also the one in charge of Orisaoko here. I saw one deity's barricaded house in Obajio's compound but I don't know its name.

My mother's father was the Jagun-Osin chief - I don't know what that means till today. During Orisala's festival, rain usually disperse people towards the end of the festival when those songs are sung. You hear such lines as 'heavy rain destroyed elebure's house, and he became homeless.' Oloodua would do certain initiation for the king at crowning and must not meet the king again till death.
interesting enough there is a priest in Bini who plays a part in the coronation process and after that won't see the king ever again, they can't even be in the same village.
Re: Gelegele-gbene And The Ijaw, Benin Crisis – Before Edo State Burns by Tecno66: 6:12pm On Nov 30, 2017
Good write up. If a Benin prince left Benin to become the paramont ruler of Ife, a yoruba territory, it only enforces the need for us to be tolerant of one another and cohabbit peacefully. Instead of the threat from the governor as stated in an earlier post, the government can call the ijaw representatives and tell them the position of government.
Elose11:
My friend, you started well until you began delving into your so called Benin folklore you know next to nothing about. That so called folklore is as told by the Ijaw.
Benin never migrated from Ife. The Benin folklore says that their ancestors originated from the sky. Therefore, the Benin king then was known as Ogiso, meaning king of the sky.
Ife came in when the kingdom started having internal strives.Since they could not agree on a king among themselves, they then send to their prince who had earlier fled to Ife to escape been killed to come and rule over them.
It was this Benin prince who had become a ruler in ife and is now called oduduwa, that sent his son to rule Benin.
As you can see, my friend, there is no where in Benin folklore where it was said that the Benins migrated from Ife. It was only a Benin prince who had now become the ruler of ife, that sent his son, oranmiyan, to rule Benin in his stead. And only when the Benins requested him to come over and rule over them
Re: Gelegele-gbene And The Ijaw, Benin Crisis – Before Edo State Burns by NDelta(m): 8:05pm On Nov 30, 2017
Arguments of most Edo's here are not based on historical facts unlike that of the op, to be forewarned is to be forearmed. A word is enough for the wise. Live and let live, you all know what Ijaw people are capable of. Please don't be fooled by their quietness online. It is better we live in harmony and oneness, IJaws are ready to live in peace with other tribe, let us all explore that option because if we don't, Bini's may be driven back to Ife.
Re: Gelegele-gbene And The Ijaw, Benin Crisis – Before Edo State Burns by NDelta(m): 8:19pm On Nov 30, 2017
historyworld030:
Ijaw, you guys need to stop your fabrications, and get more educated. Edo history is too well documented. And contrary to what you think, the Oba of Benin is not just the Oba of Benin City. His real title is Omo n'Oba n'Edo. He is the King of the Benin Kingdom. Benin City is only the capital of the Benin Kingdom, not the Kingdom itself ! Edo state is a small part of the Kingdom and you ijaw are trying to crown a "king" in a part of an already established kingdom. I hope you people can understand this and stop your madness ! When you migrate into an area, try and learn the history of the land. Don't just start making claims of "we were here first" and don't start "crowning" your "son" in a foreign land, you might get slaughtered by the owners of the land. This is an advise and a warning!

You haven't slept since this thread started grin grin grin grin grin grin cheesy cheesy cheesy grin grin grin. Ijaws are your brothers, let us all live in peace. You may want to ask the Nigerian army and navy about their experiences with the IJaws, you know they are constantly following us all over Nigeria, from Bayelsa to Ondo and Lagos, they are our customers. EDO BE WARNED O. MAKE WE LIVE IN PEACE O, IT IS BETTER FOR ALL OF US.
Re: Gelegele-gbene And The Ijaw, Benin Crisis – Before Edo State Burns by Punishment1: 8:21pm On Nov 30, 2017
historyworld030:
I just pray this war starts So that you ijaw can finally shut up.
I can see that your dying wish is to devide the Edo people, but it won't work.
The Oba of Benin is the Oba of all the Edo people.
I have gone through your posts and it seems you realy hate Edo unity and you have problems comprehending that the Edo have one and only king: Omo n'Oba n'Edo. For your info, no group has ever been under me or under any other group, we are all under the authority of Omo n'Oba n'Edo ! And we will all fight for him !
The Oba of Benin did his thank you tour in Edo state soon after his coronation and his subjects and the highest chiefs in all parts of Edo state called him their king. I really don't get you, you are not one of us, but you want to speak in a devisive manner on behalf of some of us. Jeezus, is this the new ijaw technic ? Devide and conquer ?
You think Esan people and other Edos will not fight for their king because Gelegele which is rightfully their land (because all Edo land belongs to all Edo) is far from Edo north. You are one deluded fellow. You can't possibly know us more than we know ourselves.




Gelegele is rightfully their land? Hahahah you must be joking.
Re: Gelegele-gbene And The Ijaw, Benin Crisis – Before Edo State Burns by Nosaghae(m): 9:22pm On Nov 30, 2017
OROSUNBOLB:


You are the ignorant one here but infortunately,you fail to realise it. You these Bini or whatever you call yourselves are quite funny. Not until you know the true meaning of 'Oba',only then will you fools realise that You migrated to your present location from Ile Ife.

Yoruba people don't even need you for anything; Whelther or not you were from Ife or from hell!
I would have loved to educate you on the history of Bini kingdom but it's obvious that your foolishness will not allow you learn So I will allow you to keep sinking in your ignorance

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Re: Gelegele-gbene And The Ijaw, Benin Crisis – Before Edo State Burns by monex(m): 9:35pm On Nov 30, 2017
Jaideyone:
good. that second version if the fallacy. keep it in the trash can
It is their own history. You don't trash someone's history. A lot of history is myth but we don't trash it
Re: Gelegele-gbene And The Ijaw, Benin Crisis – Before Edo State Burns by Jaideyone(m): 2:45am On Dec 01, 2017
monex:

It is their own history. You don't trash someone's history. A lot of history is myth but we don't trash it
lol indeed. They claim their missing prince is izoduwa and assumed he must have been our own oduduwa. They should go and look for their izoduwa in the Atlantic ocean. Oduduwa came from mecca. Simple

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Re: Gelegele-gbene And The Ijaw, Benin Crisis – Before Edo State Burns by AxxeMan: 10:04am On Dec 01, 2017
Uyiii:
To wrap up this bullshit and joke of a thread, between the yorubas and ijaws, I am still finding it hard to say who is more duplicitous, they're both very stupid people. If you're a Yoruba skull miner and a ritualist and you came here to drop your nonsense imaginary fallacy, I thought you should know you're a very stupid idiot.
Not all anyways, atleast my closest pal is yoruba but I watch him closely anyways because of the blood of craftiness and daftness that flows in majority of you idiots.

That aside, first and foremost, the primary topic of this thread is about gelegele, so I am bemused and wondering how some Fools and weaklings could cunningly chip in the fabricated yoruba story gotten from the pit of hell, like wtf, how can you come here to argue where binis originated from, oh because you think there are other pressing issues and much attention wouldn't be channeled to your yoruba stupid fallacy, you quickly want to drop nonsense and vanish without replies, cowards.
This is a summary of the life of an average and typical Yoruba man, always hiding under shadows of people, face to face with them, nothing to offer.

I observed one idiot naming Yoruba states and the population they have compared to binis, see eh, this life is not about quantity o but quality, because I bet if there's a course for binis and yorubas to exchange blows, una nor reach naa, you clowns are sterotypical of boosting and mouth making, no single strength.
With the one state and minority tagged to binis, we're are very okay and trying to attain a peaceful coexistence amongst us in the state, we nor complain at all but never you judge a book by it's cover.

I wanted this thread to calm down before I drop my observations, no humanity and reasoning faculty with people again, stupid tribal superiority flying around everywhere, are you guys ever tired or you get some monetary values from the direction less arguments.
many of you claim to be educated but stupid at the same time, stupidly educatedundecided.

I am not a tribal bigot or extremist, very far from that, when you're wrong, you're wrong and I say it as it is no matter who it's gonna affect, I just had to write this.
I found myself in 9ja and I want the best for it, I understand ibos agitation for Biafra today but I pray for one Nigeria everyday but with equal rights to everybody, no marginalization and sidelining.

To end this, God bless 9ja, and may thunder from gelegele rummage and triple blast you if you dare mention me stupidly

Have a nice weekend, cheerssmiley



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Re: Gelegele-gbene And The Ijaw, Benin Crisis – Before Edo State Burns by OROSUNBOLB(m): 1:30pm On Dec 02, 2017
Nosaghae:

I would have loved to educate you on the history of Bini kingdom but it's obvious that your foolishness will not allow you learn So I will allow you to keep sinking in your ignorance

Talking about education, you can't give what you don't have yourself and I won't be surprised if the useless folklore and fables ,handled over to you fools,is what you consider as history. Please spare me your bini history; it's neither inspiring nor rich enough. Was Christopher Columbus from bini? Certainly,George Washington and Churchill did not come from your bini village. So Bleep you and your bini kingdom.
Re: Gelegele-gbene And The Ijaw, Benin Crisis – Before Edo State Burns by Nobody: 1:52pm On Dec 02, 2017
Please fvck off this thread, it has nothing to do with "yoruba".
Can't you see we are busy on an other topic here ?
We have debunked your "yoruba" tales of Benin history, even on this same thread.
Go to a dedicated thread where people will have time to debate you.
The purpose of this thread is not about your "yoruba" madness.
This kind of beaviour from yoruba shows a lot of cowardice, you can't fight a guy one on one, you must wait for an other guy to be fighting him and then you slip to the back of the guy and start throwing blows. That is the best way to describe "yoruba".


OROSUNBOLB:


Talking about education, you can't give what you don't have yourself and I won't be surprised if the useless folklore and fables ,handled over to you fools,is what you consider as history. Please spare me your bini history; it's neither inspiring nor rich enough. Was Christopher Columbus from bini? Certainly,George Washington and Churchill did not come from your bini village. So Bleep you and your bini kingdom.

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Re: Gelegele-gbene And The Ijaw, Benin Crisis – Before Edo State Burns by OROSUNBOLB(m): 2:03pm On Dec 02, 2017
historyworld030:
Please fvck off this thread, it has nothing to do with "yoruba".
Can't you see we are busy on an other topic here ?
We have debunked your "yoruba" tales of Benin history, even on this same thread.
Go to a dedicated thread where people will have time to debate you.
The purpose of this thread is not about your "yoruba" madness.
This kind of beaviour from yoruba shows a lot of cowardice, you can't fight a guy one on one, you must wait for an other guy to be fighting him and then you slip to the back of the guy and start throwing blows. That is the best way to describe "yoruba".


Re: Gelegele-gbene And The Ijaw, Benin Crisis – Before Edo State Burns by OROSUNBOLB(m): 2:23pm On Dec 02, 2017
historyworld030:
Please fvck off this thread, it has nothing to do with "yoruba".
Can't you see we are busy on an other topic here ?
We have debunked your "yoruba" tales of Benin history, even on this same thread.
Go to a dedicated thread where people will have time to debate you.
The purpose of this thread is not about your "yoruba" madness.
This kind of beaviour from yoruba shows a lot of cowardice, you can't fight a guy one on one, you must wait for an other guy to be fighting him and then you slip to the back of the guy and start throwing blows. That is the best way to describe "yoruba".



This shows clearly that you are a Toddler ;characteristic of a 'bini warrior'! Yoruba have rescued you guys,binis in particular,on a countless number of time-militarily,educationally,Politically and what have you.

Now go back to your grandfathers,demand to know the truth about all these as, obviously,you have been fed with too much lies. Perhaps you were not told this as well-a pocket of Yoruba Soldiers and officers rescued your region from slavery and oppression during the last civil war. That's how 'cowardly' yoruba could be fool!
Re: Gelegele-gbene And The Ijaw, Benin Crisis – Before Edo State Burns by Nobody: 2:45pm On Dec 02, 2017
So now the civil war has turned into a matter of "slavery and oppression" ?
I also didn't realize that Muritalla Mohammed was "yoruba".
I didn't realize that Ogbemudia was "yoruba".
I also didn't realize that the nigerian army was a "yoruba thing".
Why are you guys so fund with telling lies.
And why did you automatically assume that I didn't know the truth about the civil war ?
There is nothing yorubas will not try to falsify, even recent and heavilly documented history, you had to tell a lie, while all the evidence showing that you are lying is out there. All I need is to post youtube videos about the civil war, or official documents written during the war.

OROSUNBOLB:


This shows clearly that you are a Toddler ;characteristic of a 'bini warrior'! Yoruba have rescued you guys,binis in particular,on a countless number of time-militarily,educationally,Politically and what have you.

Now go back to your grandfathers,demand to know the truth about all these as, obviously,you have been fed with too much lies. Perhaps you were not told this as well-a pocket of Yoruba Soldiers and officers rescued your region from slavery and oppression during the last civil war. That's how 'cowardly' yoruba could be fool!
Re: Gelegele-gbene And The Ijaw, Benin Crisis – Before Edo State Burns by OROSUNBOLB(m): 3:28pm On Dec 02, 2017
historyworld030:
So now the civil war has turned into a matter of "slavery and oppression" ?
I also didn't realize that Muritalla Mohammed was "yoruba".
I didn't realize that Ogbemudia was "yoruba".
I also didn't realize that the nigerian army was a "yoruba thing".
Why are you guys so fund with telling lies.
And why did you automatically assume that I didn't know the truth about the civil war ?
There is nothing yorubas will not try to falsify, even recent and heavilly documented history, you had to tell a lie, while all the evidence showing that you are lying is out there. All I need is to post youtube videos about the civil war, or official documents written during the war.

You honestly need to go back home and suck mama's breast! You can post whatever tube you like,but facts cannot be changed even if you wish otherwise. You must also hold a believe that Alani Akinrinade,Benjamen Adekunle,Olusegun Obasanjo.Alabi Isama are also from the North like Muritala or they are your Ogbemudia's siblings,right?

Your crap upthere makes me wanna throw up- so it was your Ogbemudia and Muritala that engaged the Biafran soldiers,led by a Yoruba-Banjo,at Ore having overrun Bini and it's environs and subjected your ass to the most inhuman treatments? I honestly need to ignore you so that You can have the time and energy to confront the Ijaw who are waiting to whip your Oba's ass right in his palace.

Re: Gelegele-gbene And The Ijaw, Benin Crisis – Before Edo State Burns by Nobody: 6:20pm On Dec 02, 2017
The "yoruba" can't hide his nature for too long, he is the guy who won't fight you unless someone else is already fighting you, and then from behind the yoruba will start throwing blows. Once we get rid of the ijaws, we will see. But I guess the "yoruba" will come to claim that glory as w=usual.
Do yourselves a favour and fvck off, we are not siblings we have nothing to do with backstabbers such as you and your make-belief kings who couldn't even fight the british.
All you know is how to tell lies. I have given you the names of the soldiers who led the battle agianst the Biafran troops in the mid west. I have disproved your claim of "a pocket of yoruba soldiers came and rescued the Edo". But it seems that when one proves you wrong, rather than take the correction, you just double down and start throwing more insults. Fvck off ass holes.
brainwashed bastards who think fairytales is their history.

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Re: Gelegele-gbene And The Ijaw, Benin Crisis – Before Edo State Burns by Nosaghae(m): 7:55pm On Dec 02, 2017
OROSUNBOLB:


Talking about education, you can't give what you don't have yourself and I won't be surprised if the useless folklore and fables ,handled over to you fools,is what you consider as history. Please spare me your bini history; it's neither inspiring nor rich enough. Was Christopher Columbus from bini? Certainly,George Washington and Churchill did not come from your bini village. So Bleep you and your bini kingdom.
It's obvious that stupidity runs in your lineage.
We are binis, no one handed over folklore and fables to us.
We know our root and we are custodian of our culture and history.
If e pain you, go use acid soak garri bcoz nonentity like you don't deserve to share this fresh atmosphere with sane people

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Re: Gelegele-gbene And The Ijaw, Benin Crisis – Before Edo State Burns by liohan: 4:00pm On Dec 03, 2017
Re: Gelegele-gbene And The Ijaw, Benin Crisis – Before Edo State Burns by liohan: 4:02pm On Dec 03, 2017
Re: Gelegele-gbene And The Ijaw, Benin Crisis – Before Edo State Burns by liohan: 4:03pm On Dec 03, 2017
historyworld030:
And you know the ijaws lived there for centuries because... you were there to witness it happen ?
Enogh with the stories, let us have a fact-based
All precolonial maps and notes show the region as being part of the Benin Kingdom.
You are part of the problem which you are comlpaining about.
I have just noticed that you use the word Benin without knowing its meaning.
Don't confuse Benin City with Benin Kingdom.
The Benin Kingdom has a capital which was named, Benin City.
The Benin Kingdom was a country contrary to what you seem to think.
And its King is Omo n'Oba n'Edo.
It is funny how you exibit the worse version of what you accuse other nigerians, you are far from being self aware.
I guess precolonial maps and notes are now "tales from story tellers".
What you don't understand is that Gelegele is not a land with no owner, it is part of the Benin Kingdom of which the king is the Oba of Benin: Omo n'Oba n'Edo. I just hope the british museum and all european libraries hosting these historical documents know that they are "Benin story tellers"
Is there still a Benin Kngdom?
Benin Kingdom used to have most people of Delta, Edo, Kogi States pay tribute to it. Do they still do now?
Benin Kingdom ended with the British invasion of 1897 and that is what sadly you need to know.
The Benin Kingdom was a country contrary to what you seem to think.
LMAO grin grin your verb says it all.
Mind you the Turkish empire used to extend to present day Algeria. Why didn't they claim it as their own because their empire once reached there.
Re: Gelegele-gbene And The Ijaw, Benin Crisis – Before Edo State Burns by Idonmakeam: 9:09am On Dec 08, 2017
TheWordist:
So na you wan burn Edo state? My friend you're a bastard and a fool. River dwelling pig..

No be op be the writer naw

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