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What Is The Hardest Thing God Has Ever Done? by asalimpo(m): 11:15pm On Dec 05, 2017
I know my answer is just a shot in the dark but
I think the hardest thing or one of the hardest thing God,the Almighty , has to cope with is
honouring his Word!!
Yeah!, that's it.
Not, not doing a miracle. Like turning the water into wine, feeding the nations in the desert.
While that's mind boggling to us humans,it is relatively easy to Him.

What i think must be hard for Him is enduring Man, living wantonly in sin,doing his own thing.
Man,i think that really takes super human strength to endure.
How did God feel when Hitler, rounded up millions of jews and gassed them!!!
You see an irate mob, understandably loose it and linch a thief, burn him with tire, after months or years of suffering armed robbery harrassment. How much God? His own creation!
Kai!, Some would have been Einsteins times 20. Some would have been bill gates times 100.
Some would have solved century defying math problems, some would have been great authors.
All destroyed before they had a time to deliver their gifts to the world because of the misguided philosophy of a mad man!!
- Did God just take it casually in his stride,emotionlessly? No!! Man, it hurt.
Jesus wept at the tomb of lazarus!!
Why? He wept seeing how the creatures he had created to defy death were meat at the hands of what sin unleashed!
He wept seeing humans walk with crippled feet - His creatures! This wasnt how it was meant to be.
He wept bitter tears!
Jesus weeps today! When a woman cant concieve.
When poverty subjects a man to humiliation - man who was born to be god on earth - god over gold and silver. It pierces his with pain. It takes beyond human strength to endure all this pain.
When men were piled high like wood and burned in concentration camps in germany, and the crackled like,
firewood , human beings,how did God feel?
When babies are aborted how does he feel?

You can see glimpse of God's anger burning when he ended the first world with a flood.
He just couldnt take it anymore! The sin was too much! fornication was like nothing.
Murder and drunkenness, cheating lying stealing - it was going on at a rapid rate.
God snapped - enough - he drowned the earth. Yes,His anger boiled over.

I think these things, are some of the hardest things God,yes an Almighty has to endure.

I think, barring aside God's perfection, creating man most be the most expensive experiment Diety performed.
It changed Him like never before.
It changed Him emotionally.
I believe God will heave a great sigh of relief when it's all over. He is chaffing to get this whole thing wrapped up. He really is.
He knows in a short while porn will be in daytime tv. Men will degenerate to sleeping with animals and children.
Money will cause so much more crimes. The world will head back towards how it was before he drowned it the first time. And what's worse the stench of sin floats up upward to Him everyday!!
It's like living close to effusing pit latrine day by day,inhaling the stench. Putrid and disgusting.
I think God hearts aches and His heart bleeds and He weeps bitter tears at the experiment He conducted,
called Man.
But ,in the end, when It's all over,it will be absolutely worth it!!
That hope too gives Him consolation. But today and till then, God is hurt and lives in pain.

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Re: What Is The Hardest Thing God Has Ever Done? by Nobody: 12:58am On Dec 06, 2017
Brother,
Seriously, this is a beautifully and blessed piece!
You just described and introduced the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob...a God who is personal and sympathizes and empathizes with His creation...a God who longs to be reunited with His creation---pre-sin.....a God who wants to live with us eternally.
I understand what you are saying here...and agree.
Beautifully written..... smiley

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Re: What Is The Hardest Thing God Has Ever Done? by ichuka(m): 1:07am On Dec 06, 2017
Learning Obedience.
Heb5:
8Son though he was, he learned obedience from what he suffered 9and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him
Re: What Is The Hardest Thing God Has Ever Done? by joshnes(m): 4:01pm On Dec 06, 2017
I will say coming to earth and dying on the cross. Showing mercy is not hard for God, He is rich in mercy but watching the sins of the whole world placed on His Son, that was hard that, He had to even look away.

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Re: What Is The Hardest Thing God Has Ever Done? by 0temSapien: 4:13pm On Dec 06, 2017
Creating the universe and creating all the gods and goddesses such as Atum, Allah, Yahweh, Vishnu, Moloch, Olorun, Eshu, Mazda, Enlil, Anu, Ishtar, Dian, Furin, Earth us, etc.
Re: What Is The Hardest Thing God Has Ever Done? by EmperorHarry: 6:58pm On Dec 06, 2017
what your doing right now is what most Christian folks are doing unconsciously... Using human knowledge and attributes to understand or qualify a "God"...SMH,do you actually think if a God exists he will have any human shortcomings or be like humans,a God who knows and sees all,your now saying that he'll be hurt...SMH again...your limited by human knowledge and your talking like you can even phantom what he would be like...Animals, trees,sun,moon,stars etc he created everything abi so why would you still think he would still be like or have similar attributes with one particular creation, that's limited thinking
If it is like that then he would be hurt or crying every second or minute cos of any mishap in the world he created...Smh again and again
Re: What Is The Hardest Thing God Has Ever Done? by asalimpo(m): 7:30pm On Dec 06, 2017
EmperorHarry:
what your doing right now is what most Christian folks are doing unconsciously... Using human knowledge and attributes to understand or qualify a "God"...SMH,do you actually think if a God exists he will have any human shortcomings or be like humans,a God who knows and sees all,your now saying that he'll be hurt...SMH again...your limited by human knowledge and your talking like you can even phantom what he would be like...Animals, trees,sun,moon,stars etc he created everything abi so why would you still think he would still be like or have similar attributes with one particular creation, that's limited thinking
If it is like that then he would be hurt or crying every second or minute cos of any mishap in the world he created...Smh again and again
Bro, Jesus wept. And He was God in the flesh.
God has emotions too - or dont you know that.
The Holy Spirit can be grieved
God having emotions isnt a weakness.
He is the God who even though a mother may forget her suckling child, He will not forget His own children!
- He carries our picture in his wallet!!
He neither slumbers no sleeps , Why? So that he could listen to your prayer and answer them at 1am!
David was the apple of his eye? Abraham was his friend!

God was so pleased with Solomon ,He blessed him without asking.
Our emotional attributes stem from God, only that fallen man is corrupt in it's manifestation.
We have a high priest ,Jesus, who can be touched with our infirmities ...
They're dieties alright , but they're not stoic beings.
Jesus said, be of good cheer - how dyu translate that in today's english!!
- be cool,be happy, etc. Emotional right?

God is hurt and broken but he's not rash. He sees the end from the beginning, but since the fall of man,
the trinity have also had it bad. But in the end, it will be alright!!

In the story of the prodigal son, the father, sat and watched the way, expectantly that his son will return
and when the son returned, he ran and hugged him and prepared a feast for him .
Who is does that father represent?
The bible says, the angels in heaven rejoice over one soul that gets saved!! (not particular stoic).

God ,Jesus,the Holy spirit, the have all the pure emotions any human has, but they dont sin!!
The get angry, can be hurt, can be offended, can be pleased , can be happy have peace,love etc.
Where dyu think humans got these emotions from? evolution! or we thought it up?
Re: What Is The Hardest Thing God Has Ever Done? by asalimpo(m): 7:31pm On Dec 06, 2017
MsNgo40:
Brother,
Seriously, this is a beautifully and blessed piece!
You just described and introduced the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob...a God who is personal and sympathizes and empathizes with His creation...a God who longs to be reunited with His creation---pre-sin.....a God who wants to live with us eternally.
I understand what you are saying here...and agree.
Beautifully written..... smiley
Thanks!! smiley

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Re: What Is The Hardest Thing God Has Ever Done? by EmperorHarry: 7:52pm On Dec 06, 2017
asalimpo:

Bro, Jesus wept. And He was God in the flesh.
God has emotions too - or dont you know that.
The Holy Spirit can be grieved
God was so pleased with Solomon ,He blessed him without asking.
Our emotional attributes stem from God, only that fallen man is corrupt in it's manifestation.
We have a high priest ,Jesus, who can be touched with our infirmities ...
They're dieties alright , but they're not stoic beings.
Jesus said, be of good cheer - how dyu translate that in today's english!!
- be cool,be happy, etc. Emotional right?
Yup...truth is I don't really buy into the whole Christian theory but i will still conversate like I'm one so we both understand each other...
First if jesus came to earth then he has to have human attributes, it's like you entering a box that's really small but you can fit in it...you can't say you won't conform or adjust so you can fit in... So he's divinity and godly attributes were rendered useless...otherwise when he was crucified he wouldn't have bled or pain and other things which is still human shotcomings
The fact that you look at things from one point only is what makes you say things like that...you consider everything first...Or aren't you seeing that the points your mentioning are favouring a particular set of people and very partial...The same God that created everybody right still destroys he's creation as stated in the bible countless times,he even supporte the isrealites and helped to conquer their enemies and enslave people,examine things before you digest it and buy into it
If you really think he has emotions then why don't you also say he got angry and wiped out the whole world and favoured Noah and also favoured a certain people known as the isrealites throughout cos the rest of his creations are useless to him and don't deserve a second chance...you now start telling me that jesus came to redeem all, I don't wanna hear that,what of the people who existed before Jesus came...are they also doomed for eternity?...i hope you look at this constructively and improve your argument
Re: What Is The Hardest Thing God Has Ever Done? by asalimpo(m): 8:13pm On Dec 06, 2017
EmperorHarry:

Yup...truth is I don't really buy into the whole Christian theory but i will still conversate like I'm one so we both understand each other...
First if jesus came to earth then he has to have human attributes, it's like you entering a box that's really small but you can fit in it...you can't say you won't conform or adjust so you can fit in... So he's divinity and godly attributes were rendered useless...otherwise when he was crucified he wouldn't have bled or pain and other things which is still human shotcomings
The fact that you look at things from one point only is what makes you say things like that...you consider everything first...Or aren't you seeing that the points your mentioning are favouring a particular set of people and very partial...The same God that created everybody right still destroys he's creation as stated in the bible countless times,examine things before you digest it and buy into it
If you really think he has emotions then why don't you also say he got angry and wiped out the whole world and favoured adam or favoured a certain people known as the isrealites throughout cos the rest of his creations are useless to him...you now start telling me that jesus said, I don't wanna hear that,what of the people who existex before Jesus said...are they also doomed for eternity...i hope you look at this constructively and improve your argument
I looked at things constructively and circumspectly.
I support my points with the scriptures,but truth is most people esteem their opinions/preconceptions above the scriptures.
You say you "dont wanna hear that" ...
Emotions are not "human attributes" as you say. They're God attributes.
Correct your thinking in that sector.
Man was created in God's image.
Jesus became a man, yes, he laid aside His mighty weight of power and Glory , so the bible says .
The other points are simply beyond the scope of the issue i wanted to address.
Like i said, God has emotions but He doesnt exercise them or let them sway Him like we humans do:
He is not emotional. He doesnt crumble in an emotional wreck like humans do.
Looking at Jesus.
He never sinned!! Despite the pressure to.
When he prayed and sweated blood resisting sin, dont you think a part of Him wanted to relent
and give up? He didnt. He didnt let His emotions lead Him? God is the same.
But did he not feel it? He did.
Jesus,
wept -
was moved by compassion
got angry and expressed His anger (chased out the money changers in the temple, railed on the hypocritical pharisees)
was grieved by the hardness of the hearts of his detractors,
got chaffed by the denseness of his disciples -
played with children (he wasnt stiff and rigid, children dont flock to uncheerful adults)
was joyful (who for the joy set before Him edured the cross,despising the shame)

All these are expressions of emotions - They're are all biblical.
These attributes are not human, they're God attributes , humans have them cuz God gave them to man (man is created in God's image).
They're not also weaknesses.

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Re: What Is The Hardest Thing God Has Ever Done? by EmperorHarry: 10:31pm On Dec 06, 2017
asalimpo:

I looked at things constructively and circumspectly.
I support my points with the scriptures,but truth is most people esteem their opinions/preconceptions above the scriptures.
You say you "dont wanna hear that" ...
Emotions are not "human attributes" as you say. They're God attributes.
Correct your thinking in that sector.
Man was created in God's image.
Jesus became a man, yes, he laid aside His mighty weight of power and Glory , so the bible says .
The other points are simply beyond the scope of the issue i wanted to address.
Like i said, God has emotions but He doesnt exercise them or let them sway Him like we humans do:
He is not emotional. He doesnt crumble in an emotional wreck like humans do.
Looking at Jesus.
He never sinned!! Despite the pressure to.
When he prayed and sweated blood resisting sin, dont you think a part of Him wanted to relent
and give up? He didnt. He didnt let His emotions lead Him? God is the same.
But did he not feel it? He did.
Jesus,
wept -
was moved by compassion
got angry and expressed His anger (chased out the money changers in the temple, railed on the hypocritical pharisees)
was grieved by the hardness of the hearts of his detractors,
got chaffed by the denseness of his disciples -
played with children (he wasnt stiff and rigid, children dont flock to uncheerful adults)
was joyful (who for the joy set before Him edured the cross,despising the shame)

All these are expressions of emotions - They're are all biblical.
These attributes are not human, they're God attributes , humans have them cuz God gave them to man (man is created in God's image).
They're not also weaknesses.
The fact that Jesus had such emotions means he became human and the fact that think he never sinned also contradicts what the bible says...Every man born of a woman is born into sin or something like that...which means there was no jesus to use to ask for forgiveness,except you'll make exceptions for him because he's God so such rules don't apply to him...or that he prayed to the father and asked for forgiveness...the fact that he didn't sin doesn't make him human...which means it's not a level playing field,he had a upperhand which is still very partial and defies the reason he even came in the first place i.e. to know what it's like to be human, passing the test and bringing salvation to the world as a result
You also saying that humans have the attributes of God cos we're created in his likeness means that he can be controlled by emotions and also make mistakes just like humans which contradicts the popular belief that he doesn't make mistakes cos he's God...if you still don't believe he can be controlled by emotions,he got so angry to the point where he wiped oout everything he created (controlled by anger),before that he found a man and decided to talk to him directly (favouritism) so he can inform a large population about an impending danger that no one knew of except him,then God decided to spare him and his family and then two of each animal[favouritism and lack of concern for the innocent animals who didn't do anything wrong or were the chosen animals different from the others?!] so they could start all over[Trying to correct a mistake]...I could bring more examples where he was controlled by emotions like when he kicked lucifer out of heaven for trying to put his seat above him[who gave Lucifer seat sef??],when he kicked adam and Eve from garden of Eden cos they were tricked by a serpent that they didn't know was lucifer cos they never knew he existed...Clear signs the bible is depicting he had emos but what I'm now saying is that constructive thinking would make you understand that there's no limit to what a God can do...so why should he even have human emos,he could have something much more than that.something our tiny limited brains cannot know or phantom..The bible to me isn't relevant when conversating about things like this cause it's a book that supports anybody no matter what your views are to a certain extent... That's why I'm urging to think outside the Bible,and argue without bias
Re: What Is The Hardest Thing God Has Ever Done? by asalimpo(m): 12:29pm On Dec 07, 2017
EmperorHarry:

The fact that Jesus had such emotions means he became human and the fact that think he never sinned also contradicts what the bible says...Every man born of a woman is born into sin or something like that...which means there was no jesus to use to ask for forgiveness,except you'll make exceptions for him because he's God so such rules don't apply to him...or that he prayed to the father and asked for forgiveness...the fact that he didn't sin doesn't make him human...which means it's not a level playing field,he had a upperhand which is still very partial and defies the reason he even came in the first place i.e. to know what it's like to be human, passing the test and bringing salvation to the world as a result
You also saying that humans have the attributes of God cos we're created in his likeness means that he can be controlled by emotions and also make mistakes just like humans which contradicts the popular belief that he doesn't make mistakes cos he's God...if you still don't believe he can be controlled by emotions,he got so angry to the point where he wiped oout everything he created (controlled by anger),before that he found a man and decided to talk to him directly (favouritism) so he can inform a large population about an impending danger that no one knew of except him,then God decided to spare him and his family and then two of each animal[favouritism and lack of concern for the innocent animals who didn't do anything wrong or were the chosen animals different from the others?!] so they could start all over[Trying to correct a mistake]...I could bring more examples where he was controlled by emotions like when he kicked lucifer out of heaven for trying to put his seat above him[who gave Lucifer seat sef??],when he kicked adam and Eve from garden of Eden cos they were tricked by a serpent that they didn't know was lucifer cos they never knew he existed...Clear signs the bible is depicting he had emos but what I'm now saying is that constructive thinking would make you understand that there's no limit to what a God can do...so why should he even have human emos,he could have something much more than that.something our tiny limited brains cannot know or phantom..The bible to me isn't relevant when conversating about things like this cause it's a book that supports anybody no matter what your views are to a certain extent... That's why I'm urging to think outside the Bible,and argue without bias
Actually arguing this matter with words won't convince you or sway you - you are already locked into your stance.
However peddling those stances as definite truth is deceptive.
Giving u all the facts from the bible wont help if you are not open minded and accept the authority of the bible.
The scriptures are interpreted in context. Balance a scripture with another scripture and so on.
That way you avoid errors. This principle is outlined in the bible
"in the mouth of two or more witness let a matter be established " - something like that.

Jesus, had a human body but not human lineage!
He is not from the adamic line,bloodwise. i.e his bloodline doesnt issue from the first man,Adam!
Hence He wasnt born in sin like all other men!
That's y his blood was accepted as the perfect atoning sacrifice when he died on the cross.
What flowed through his viens was the blood of God.
That blood is what redeemed us.
If he sinned while on earth, his blood would have been tainted ,just like adams was but he would still be God,in the spirit.

2) if Jesus had sinned while on earth, at his death and burial,he wouldnt have been able to
get out of hell! Because,the devil would have a legal right to keep him there.
All sinners go to hell.
Again, the only thing that wouldav circumvented that would be his inherent divinity. He would invoke that and go to heaven!
Then maybe God wouldav to do the salvationall over again.
That he broke out hell, stripped the devil of his power and the keys of hell and death ,all legally ,
meant, a law was broken. That broken law that an innocent man was killed , by satan's instigation,
and an innocent man was tortured in hell! That breach of law gave God Almighty legal right to strip satan of all the powers he had. Jesus death and resurrection was nothing but a mighty ambushment for satan. Satan work right into the trap and lost all.
It couldnt have happened if Jesus wasnt sinless.
In the new testament you read the sentence, "if the princes of this world knew they wouldnt have
slain the prince of glory".


3) That God has emotions doesnt mean, Emotions move Him. He doesnt act wantonly.
Before the first flood, what did He do? Warn the world for 120 years!!
Did the world heed? No.
His anger ripens and matures - man is however imperfect, man uses his emotions wantonly.

You give the impression that God was conducting a charade. That Jesus operated with inherent powers as God yet upholds man to those standards.
That's nothing but hyprocisy and double dealing.
If Jesus operated with his divine powers as God,then why would he need to be anointed by the holy spirit? He did no miracles until he was anointed after his baptism.
He had to depend on the Holy spirit's leading for the day to day operation of his ministry.
Just like other christians today have to.
Why would he need to pray ,if he had his powers as God?
Who does God pray to when he wants to get things done?


You cannot ignore the authority of the bible and come up with your ideas and say they are valid for interpreting scriptures,as u suggest. When you do that,you'll wander into regions of error.
That's how all apostate doctrines developed. People who once regarded the Bible,put it down for their own doctrines.
Re: What Is The Hardest Thing God Has Ever Done? by MistadeRegal(m): 2:04pm On Dec 10, 2017
asalimpo:

I looked at things constructively and circumspectly.
I support my points with the scriptures,but truth is most people esteem their opinions/preconceptions above the scriptures.
You say you "dont wanna hear that" ...
Emotions are not "human attributes" as you say. They're God attributes.
Correct your thinking in that sector.
Man was created in God's image.
Jesus became a man, yes, he laid aside His mighty weight of power and Glory , so the bible says .
The other points are simply beyond the scope of the issue i wanted to address.
Like i said, God has emotions but He doesnt exercise them or let them sway Him like we humans do:
He is not emotional. He doesnt crumble in an emotional wreck like humans do.
Looking at Jesus.
He never sinned!! Despite the pressure to.
When he prayed and sweated blood resisting sin, dont you think a part of Him wanted to relent
and give up? He didnt. He didnt let His emotions lead Him? God is the same.
But did he not feel it? He did.
Jesus,
wept -
was moved by compassion
got angry and expressed His anger (chased out the money changers in the temple, railed on the hypocritical pharisees)
was grieved by the hardness of the hearts of his detractors,
got chaffed by the denseness of his disciples -
played with children (he wasnt stiff and rigid, children dont flock to uncheerful adults)
was joyful (who for the joy set before Him edured the cross,despising the shame)

All these are expressions of emotions - They're are all biblical.
These attributes are not human, they're God attributes , humans have them cuz God gave them to man (man is created in God's image).
They're not also weaknesses.

Not every human understand things that pertains to the Spirit.
So, when you spot such people, this is the best way to reply them.
More grace.
Re: What Is The Hardest Thing God Has Ever Done? by Nobody: 12:52am On Dec 15, 2017
Sir with all due respect, i believe your comment is wrongly worded because it has the tendency of pushing people further away from the gospel of Christ; which should never be our aim.
MistadeRegal:


Not every human understand things that pertains to the Spirit.
So, when you spot such people, this is the best way to reply them.
More grace.
Re: What Is The Hardest Thing God Has Ever Done? by MistadeRegal(m): 1:20am On Dec 15, 2017
omokoladejames:
Sir with all due respect, i believe your comment is wrongly worded because it has the tendency of pushing people further away from the gospel of Christ; which should never be our aim.

Explain.

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