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Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by EweduAfonja(f): 4:11pm On Dec 09, 2017
Raintaker:

You seem serious, I thought you were joking hence my previous reply.
Pls in all you do on this forum always ignore the SaheedBn guy.

You can always go through the Acadip route and we are also here to help in case you have any questions.

You can try and get this book from any Islamic Store "The protection of monotheism".

It's a good read.


I downloaded Audio msg from the link he posted ...

what I don't understand here is why some will speak against some peepz in same Religion....

please don't miss understand me Ooooo, just my observations from the download.
Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by EweduAfonja(f): 4:28pm On Dec 09, 2017
ShaheedBinAliyu:
GBOGBO EGBE . .all sect . .every firoq . . Rosul said WE MUSLIM MUST NEVER JOIN ANY SECT. . sect = has a name( given by their leader or named after him or after their aqeedah), has an amir(leader who they will be following), what they practised is against islam . . .ONE OR TWO OR THREE of those qualities, once you see it, they are sect. . jp


Hmmmmmmmmm......
Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by EweduAfonja(f): 4:33pm On Dec 09, 2017
Raintaker:

You seem serious, I thought you were joking hence my previous reply.
Pls in all you do on this forum always ignore the SaheedBn guy.

You can always go through the Acadip route and we are also here to help in case you have any questions.

You can try and get this book from any Islamic Store "The protection of monotheism".

It's a good read.

Qur'an(English version)
or
any Online store i can purchase it....
Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by Raintaker(m): 5:05pm On Dec 09, 2017
EweduAfonja:


Qur'an(English version)
or
any Online store i can purchase it....
Well, I think you need to get introduced to the religion before you delve into the Qur'an (my opinion).That's why I recommended the book 'The protection of Monotheism'.

After that you can always get the English translation of the Qur'an(Available on Playstore and Apple store).
Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by Raintaker(m): 5:08pm On Dec 09, 2017
EweduAfonja:



I downloaded Audio msg from the link he posted ...

what I don't understand here is why some will speak against some peepz in same Religion....

please don't miss understand me Ooooo, just my observations from the download.


He's a confused fellow, he'll always turn around after he realises his confusion.

He is a Muslim though, but he doesn't know how to address issues, that's why you are advised to ignore him.
Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 5:16pm On Dec 09, 2017
EweduAfonja:



Hmmmmmmmmm......
THOSE FELLOW OR PEOPLE THAT WERE BEING SPOKEN AGAINST, they are warning you of their misguidance and also letting you to know their misguidance and exactly why they are misgudided. . . those people spoken against ARE NOT MUSLIMS. .THEY ARE HIDING UNDER THE BANNER OF ISLAM ..who are those people and what are their names
Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 5:17pm On Dec 09, 2017
Raintaker:
He's a confused fellow, he'll always turn around after he realises his confusion.

He is a Muslim though, but he doesn't know how to address issues, that's why you are advised to ignore him.
COMING FROM A SUFI . .

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Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 5:21pm On Dec 09, 2017
EweduAfonja:



Hmmmmmmmmm......
LISTEN TO THOSE LECTURES WITH OPEN MIND. . . if you need book to read. . READ KITAB TAWHEED BY MUHAMMAD BIN ABDULWAHAB ...every single SUFI HATES him..
Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by Raintaker(m): 6:02pm On Dec 09, 2017
ShaheedBinAliyu:
COMING FROM A SUFI . .
You see why I mentioned earlier that you are confused?
I am a Muslim and not a Sufi and I do not have anything against those who engage in Sufism as an act of Ibadah.
Get that into your head today.
Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by EweduAfonja(f): 6:10pm On Dec 09, 2017
ShaheedBinAliyu:
LISTEN TO THOSE LECTURES WITH OPEN MIND. . . if you need book to read. . READ KITAB TAWHEED BY MUHAMMAD BIN ABDULWAHAB ...every single SUFI HATES him..

this will be my last comment on this thread Reasons best known to me.

thanks everyone for your help.

Empire we talk on whatsapp...
Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 6:10pm On Dec 09, 2017
Raintaker:
You see why I mentioned earlier that you are confused?
I am a Muslim and not a Sufi and I do not have anything against those who engage in Sufism as an act of Ibadah.
Get that into your head today.
Laughing. . its like saying I AM A FOLLOWER OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD AND I BELIEVE IN ALLAH but i do not have anything against who said they follow prophet muhammad and believe in ALLAH but in reality they do not believe in ALLAH and prophet muhammad... CONFUSED FELLOW. then y did ALLAH killed so many race because they disbelieve in HIM but they do say they believe in HIM.. then why did prophet muhammad ordered killing of khawarij and other sect? they do say they believe in ALLAH and prophet muhammad but in reality they do not . . . ehn why did muhammad bin abdulwahab killed SUFI in saudi arabia then? . . .maa tan ara e . .gdg
Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 6:13pm On Dec 09, 2017
EweduAfonja:


this will be my last comment on this thread Reasons best known to me.

thanks everyone for your help.

Empire we talk on whatsapp...
Ehya . .at last you refused to be a muslim. .well you are on your own. but MAY ALLAH GUIDE YOU TO THE RIGHT PATH
Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by Empiree: 6:18pm On Dec 09, 2017

Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 6:59pm On Dec 09, 2017
[quote author=Empiree post=63129905][/quote]ONCE ITS AGAINST THE RULE OF ISLAM, I DO ABANDON SUCH REASONING
Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by SokoDobo: 8:03pm On Dec 09, 2017
ShaheedBinAliyu:
ONCE ITS AGAINST THE RULE OF ISLAM, I DO ABANDON SUCH REASONING

Going through your posts, it becomes unfortunately glaringly clear that you rank much more on the scale of the ignorantly foolish ones. You know not but you don't know that you know not.

MSSN, Sufis all not Muslims? You or whoever teaches this bullshit to you just pronounce kufr on people anyhow.

Mehn, ignorance is so much a disease.

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Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 9:20pm On Dec 09, 2017
SokoDobo:


Going through your posts, it becomes unfortunately glaringly clear that you rank much more on the scale of the ignorantly foolish ones. You know not but you don't know that you know not.

MSSN, Sufis all not Muslims? You or whoever teaches this bullshit to you just pronounce kufr on people anyhow.

Mehn, ignorance is so much a disease.
I GAVE U QURAN AND HADITH .. TOLD YOU ALLAH and rosul and sahabah call them kafir. . its n0t me that you will shout on, just quote the quran verse i quoted, explain it, quote those hadiths too. .explain it.. .. lobatan
Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by SokoDobo: 9:51pm On Dec 09, 2017
ShaheedBinAliyu:
I GAVE U QURAN AND HADITH .. TOLD YOU ALLAH and rosul and sahabah call them kafir. . its n0t me that you will shout on, just quote the quran verse i quoted, explain it, quote those hadiths too. .explain it.. .. lobatan

Dude, you didn't give me a single aya from the Qur'an and neither did u give a single hadith.

You can however do that now!!

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Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by Raintaker(m): 11:31pm On Dec 09, 2017
ShaheedBinAliyu:
Laughing. . its like saying I AM A FOLLOWER OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD AND I BELIEVE IN ALLAH but i do not have anything against who said they follow prophet muhammad and believe in ALLAH but in reality they do not believe in ALLAH and prophet muhammad... CONFUSED FELLOW. then y did ALLAH killed so many race because they disbelieve in HIM but they do say they believe in HIM.. then why did prophet muhammad ordered killing of khawarij and other sect? they do say they believe in ALLAH and prophet muhammad but in reality they do not . . . ehn why did muhammad bin abdulwahab killed SUFI in saudi arabia then? . . .maa tan ara e . .gdg
Your last statement actually showed your Aqeedah to be that of Muhammad bn Abdulwahab.
This shows clearly you are a Wahabi.
And By the way it seems you know so little about Islamic Seerah.

All in All bros, I weak for your matter.
Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 11:36pm On Dec 09, 2017
Raintaker:

Your last statement actually showed your Aqeedah to be that of Muhammad bn Abdulwahab.
This shows clearly you are a Wahabi.
And By the way it seems you know so little about Islamic Seerah.

All in All bros, I weak for your matter.
EXACTLY. AM ON THE SAME MANHAJ AS MUHAMMAD BIN ABDUL WAHAB. Alhamdulilah
Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 11:40pm On Dec 09, 2017
SokoDobo:


Dude, you didn't give me a single aya from the Qur'an and neither did u give a single hadith.

You can however do that now!!
SURATUL RUM 31-32, SURATUL SURA 12-13, SURATUL AN'AM 158-159 . .sahih bukhari 7058
Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by SokoDobo: 11:43pm On Dec 09, 2017
ShaheedBinAliyu:
SURATUL RUM 31-32, SURATUL SURA 12-13, SURATUL AN'AM 158-159 . .sahih bukhari 7058

Quote them. That's what I requested. It's not too much to ask for.
Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by Raintaker(m): 11:43pm On Dec 09, 2017
ShaheedBinAliyu:
EXACTLY. AM ON THE SAME MANHAJ AS MUHAMMAD BIN ABDUL WAHAB. Alhamdulilah
Then I won't be wrong for calling you a bokoharam or Isis sympathiser.

It is widely known that wahabis do not practise Islam, they are merely a deviant sect who preach intolerance in all aspects of life and Bokoharam and Isis have been touted to have sprung out of extreme wahabism.

Wahabism is not Islam, but I won't call you a kafir.

Just try and repent to Allah your one and only Lord maybe he will guide you unto the right path.

Asalam Alaykum.
Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by SokoDobo: 11:47pm On Dec 09, 2017
Raintaker:

Your last statement actually showed your Aqeedah to be that of Muhammad bn Abdulwahab.
This shows clearly you are a Wahabi.
And By the way it seems you know so little about Islamic Seerah.

All in All bros, I weak for your matter.

False. He and whoever it is that teaches him those bullshit are far from the aqeedah of Ibn Abdulwahab. They are much more of KHAWAARIJS.
Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 12:12am On Dec 10, 2017
Raintaker:
Then I won't be wrong for calling you a bokoharam or Isis sympathiser.

It is widely known that wahabis do not practise Islam, they are merely a deviant sect who preach intolerance in all aspects of life and Bokoharam and Isis have been touted to have sprung out of extreme wahabism.

Wahabism is not Islam, but I won't call you a kafir.

Just try and repent to Allah your one and only Lord maybe he will guide you unto the right path.

Asalam Alaykum.
WHY IS MUHAMMAD BIN ABDUL WAHAB A BOKOHARAM AND WHY DID YOU TAG ME AS A BOKO
Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 12:14am On Dec 10, 2017
SokoDobo:


False. He and whoever it is that teaches him those bullshit are far from the aqeedah of Ibn Abdulwahab. They are much more of KHAWAARIJS.
Laughing. . . .you that you do not know WHO OR WHAT IS A KHAWARIJ . . .dakun o . .how am i a khawarij? o ya explain. . . . .6 not
Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by Mightyraw(m): 12:24am On Dec 10, 2017
EweduAfonja:


I'm aware, watched some of the clip on FB...

But ain't close
ok
Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by Empiree: 12:38am On Dec 10, 2017
ShaheedBinAliyu:
Laughing. . . .you that you do not know WHO OR WHAT IS A KHAWARIJ . . .dakun o . .how am i a khawarij? o ya explain. . . . .6 not
guy, why did you have to derail and mess up this thread?. The lady was in the process of learning islam and all you could do was to bring sectarian matters into this to confuse her. What's wrong with you?. Don't you have any sense?.

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Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 12:49am On Dec 10, 2017
Empiree:
guy, why did you have to derail and mess up this thread?. The lady was in the process of learning islam and all you could do was to bring sectarian matters into this to confuse her. What's wrong with you?. Don't you have any sense?.
SECTS ARE NOT MUSLIM AND THEY ARE NOT PRACTICING ISLAM. was trying to set her straight to islam path according to prophet muhammad and sahabahs
Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by Empiree: 1:01am On Dec 10, 2017
ShaheedBinAliyu:
SECTS ARE NOT MUSLIM AND THEY ARE NOT PRACTICING ISLAM. was trying to set her straight to islam path according to prophet muhammad and sahabahs
zip it and get off her thread. You are a confused fellow with little to zero knowldge. This is not how to do dawah.

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Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 1:09am On Dec 10, 2017
Empiree:
zip it and get off her thread. You are a confused fellow with little to zero knowldge. This is not how to do dawah.
THATS EXACTLY HOW TO DO IT, HOW RASUL DID IT. Do u think if we muslims have amir, there will be just 1 sect remaining? he would have KILL THEM ALL. SECTS ARE KUFAR. THEY ARE NOT MUSLIMS
Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by SokoDobo: 6:44am On Dec 10, 2017
ShaheedBinAliyu:
Laughing. . . .you that you do not know WHO OR WHAT IS A KHAWARIJ . . .dakun o . .how am i a khawarij? o ya explain. . . . .6 not

Do u think if we muslims have amir, there will be just 1 sect remaining? he would have KILL THEM ALL. SECTS ARE KUFAR. THEY ARE NOT MUSLIMS

I am not going to school you in detail about this because people like you are typically

ﺻُﻢٌّ ﺑُﻜْﻢٌ ﻋُﻤْﻰٌ ﻓَﻬُﻢْ ﻻَ ﻳَﺮْﺟِﻌُﻮﻥَ

I would have even avoided responding to this. But for the benefit of those reading this thread, am gonna give a little highlight. And it's up to them to judge whether or not you guys are heavily inclined towards the Khawarij sect.

It is a well known fact to the people of knowledge that the Kharijite ideology is built upon the following evil tenets:

1. Declaring Muslims to be unbelievers.

2. Rejecting lawful obedience to the rulers.

3. Justifying violence against Muslims and innocent people and also justifying the killing of whoever goes against them.

In his book, Shaykhul Islam, Ibn Taymiyyah stated:

ﻭَﺍﻟْﺨَﻮَﺍﺭِﺝُ ﻫُﻢْ ﺃَﻭَّﻝُ ﻣَﻦْ ﻛَﻔَّﺮَ ﺍﻟْﻤُﺴْﻠِﻤِﻴﻦَ ﻳُﻜَﻔِّﺮُﻭﻥَ ﺑِﺎﻟﺬُّﻧُﻮﺏِ ، ﻭَﻳُﻜَﻔِّﺮُﻭﻥَ ﻣَﻦْ ﺧَﺎﻟَﻔَﻬُﻢْ ﻓِﻲ ﺑِﺪْﻋَﺘِﻬِﻢْ ﻭَﻳَﺴْﺘَﺤِﻠُّﻮﻥَ ﺩَﻣَﻪُ ﻭَﻣَﺎﻟَﻪُ ﻭَﻫَﺬِﻩِ ﺣَﺎﻝُ ﺃَﻫْﻞِ ﺍﻟْﺒِﺪَﻉِ ﻳَﺒْﺘَﺪِﻋُﻮﻥَ ﺑِﺪْﻋَﺔً ﻭَﻳُﻜَﻔِّﺮُﻭﻥَ ﻣَﻦْ ﺧَﺎﻟَﻔَﻬُﻢْ ﻓِﻴﻬَﺎ ﻭَﺃَﻫْﻞُ ﺍﻟﺴُّﻨَّﺔِ ﻭَﺍﻟْﺠَﻤَﺎﻋَﺔِ ﻳَﺘَّﺒِﻌُﻮﻥَ ﺍﻟْﻜِﺘَﺎﺏَ ﻭَﺍﻟﺴُّﻨَّﺔَ ﻭَﻳُﻄِﻴﻌُﻮﻥَ ﺍﻟﻠَّﻪَ ﻭَﺭَﺳُﻮﻟَﻪُ ﻓَﻴَﺘَّﺒِﻌُﻮﻥَ ﺍﻟْﺤَﻖَّ ﻭَﻳَﺮْﺣَﻤُﻮﻥَ ﺍﻟْﺨَﻠْﻖَ

His statement can be translated as:

"The Kharijite sect was the first to declare Muslims to be unbelievers because of their sins. They charged as unbelievers whoever disagreed with their innovations and they made lawful the spilling of blood and the taking of wealth. This is the condition of the people of innovation, that they invent some religious innovation and then they excommunicate whoever disagrees with them concerning it. Rather, the people of the Sunnah and the community follow the Book and the Sunnah and they obey Allah and His Messenger and follow the truth. They have mercy upon the creation." Majmū’ al-Fatāwá 1/278

Islam teaches us to have mercy upon the entire creation, including unbelievers and idolaters. The reverse is however the case the teachings and practice of the Kharaijites. They have no mercy for those outside their group. They declare other Muslims to be unbelievers by misinterpreting and misapplying the verses of the Quran.

In Sahih Al-Bukhari, it is reported that : Ibn Umar, may Allah be pleased with him, considered the Kharijites to be the worst of Allah’s creation and he said:

ﺇِﻧَّﻬُﻢْ ﺍﻧْﻄَﻠَﻘُﻮﺍ ﺇِﻟَﻰ ﺁﻳَﺎﺕٍ ﻧَﺰَﻟَﺖْ ﻓِﻲ ﺍﻟْﻜُﻔَّﺎﺭِ ﻓَﺠَﻌَﻠُﻮﻫَﺎ ﻋَﻠَﻰ ﺍﻟْﻤُﺆْﻣِﻨِﻴﻦَ

His statement can be translated as :

"Verily, they take verses that were revealed about unbelievers and use them against the believers." Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 6531

The teachings of Jabata, Yusuf, Shekau and Co, which is the teachings of the Kharijites is that their opinions regarding leadership, government, politics, and the Sharia are the only valid opinions in Islam and whoever disagrees with them becomes an unbeliever.

You can imagine how delusional they can be and how crazy a length they can go.
No wonder Imaam Ibn Kathir says:

ﺇِﺫْ ﻟَﻮْ ﻗَﻮُﻭﺍ ﻫَﺆُﻟَﺎﺀِ ﻟَﺄَﻓْﺴَﺪُﻭﺍ ﺍﻟْﺄَﺭْﺽَ ﻛُﻠَّﻬَﺎ ﻋِﺮَﺍﻗًﺎ ﻭَﺷَﺎﻣًﺎ ﻭَﻟَﻢْ ﻳَﺘْﺮُﻛُﻮﺍ ﻃِﻔْﻠًﺎ ﻭَﻟَﺎ ﻃِﻔْﻠَﺔَ ﻭَﻟَﺎ ﺭَﺟُﻠًﺎ ﻭَﻟَﺎ ﺍﻣْﺮَﺃَﺓً ﻟِﺄَﻥَّ ﺍﻟﻨَّﺎﺱَ ﻋِﻨْﺪَﻫُﻢْ ﻗَﺪْ ﻓَﺴَﺪُﻭﺍ ﻓَﺴَﺎﺩًﺍ ﻟَﺎ ﻳُﺼْﻠِﺤُﻬُﻢْ ﺇِﻟَّﺎ ﺍﻟْﻘَﺘْﻞُ ﺟُﻤْﻠَﺔً

"If the Khawarij ever gained power, they would corrupt the entire earth, Iraq, and Syria. They would not leave a boy or a girl or a man or a woman, for in their view the people have become so corrupt that they cannot be reformed except by mass killing"
Al-Bidāyah wal-Nihāyah 10/584.


May Allah guide us towards the right path.
Re: I Want To Know More About Islam by ShaheedBinAliyu(m): 7:00am On Dec 10, 2017
OLODO NI E Sokodobo .. u can only quote scholars ..d way u quote them shows u have absolutely no knowledge about who khawarij is. . u

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