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Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by macof(m): 7:00pm On Dec 10, 2017
robotix:


So who owned Lagos? Binis or Yorubas?

Lagos state - Egun, Awori, Ijebu
Lagos city - Awori
Lagos town - Awori but with many Bini descendants.
Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by ritababe(f): 7:00pm On Dec 10, 2017
BakireBulmaker:



Your Edo rants begin and end on NL.

The few Lagosians with Edo ancestry can never rewrite the history of Lagos.

They are clowns like you. Only on NL will you hear them. Nobody takes them serious.

Hahahaha


when u are defeated you result to insult, are u an ipob?

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Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by macof(m): 7:06pm On Dec 10, 2017
ivolt:
The same way UK owns Nigeria because we were at a point paying them royalties(resources)
and China also owns Korea because Korea was at a point paying them royalties.
SMH at these illiterate chiefs.
And Awori chiefs didnt even pay Bini royalties. it was Bini people who were in Lagos that were doing that, Idejo chiefs that don't have time for nonsense.

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Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by macof(m): 7:23pm On Dec 10, 2017
robotix:


Most people who claim Lagos is theirs today are immigrants. Many of the governors that have ruled Lagos are from neighboring Yoruba states... Tinubu is not a Lagos Aborigine
Fashola is Awori from Lagos island
Ambode is Ijebu from Epe

Let a bini man from Edo state come and be governor shebi Tinubu came from Osun state to be governor of Lagos
Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by saajib: 7:28pm On Dec 10, 2017
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This woman who was a celebrated Woman Friend of the late Oba Sijuwade, why can't she says all these trash when the late Ooni and Oba Adeyinka of Lagos were alive? Just to please the new Oba of Lagos on the throne now, she is saying all these. Shame on our elders
Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by samuk: 7:30pm On Dec 10, 2017
codemaniacs:


unless you're bini... the way you're contradicting yourself again...

you said "The Oyo Yoruba and bini conquered territories"

then said "This is because the monarchs have the same origin. They hardly fight each other"..

how can the binis conquer yoruba territories and the yorubas won't react... the yorubas allowed binis stay in Yoruba land for a reason maybe they were training the binis...

There was no such thing as a Yoruba people or territory. There were the Egbas, Ekitis, Modakekes and others, these territories were conquered by both the Benin and Oyo empires. The people and territories now know as Yoruba is a later day polical creation.

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Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by Nobody: 7:32pm On Dec 10, 2017
Well, Need I say more ?

I have already told this story, because I researched and got this history, but here on nairaland, no one wanted to know the truth, they just want to own Lagos by sentiment even when the fact states otherwise.

Meanwhile, who ever can afford a real estate asset in Lagos, owns a part of Lagos.

Lagos belong to all those who can afford, not to any particular tribe, but we must respect the Yorubas, they are ones who fought the dirty war to hold the land for us all to buy.

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Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by macof(m): 7:34pm On Dec 10, 2017
Blackfyre:
But i thought the Idejos own the lands in Lagos?

Plus when the Onirus were paid about 300 thousand pounds by the state government decades back, why wasn't that amount paid to the Bini/Lagos Royal family? Or are the Onirus Bini?
oniru alone is more significant in lagos than this Erelu kuti who has no ancestral land
the land she lives on belongs to Aromire, who she calls 'onile' (land owner) anytime she should meet him.

Some years ago i was told that there is no current Aromire chief, something about the family is split. i don't know how true but I think this is why these troublemakers have had the recent voice to claim nonsense on Aromire's land
Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by akigbemaru: 7:35pm On Dec 10, 2017
Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by akigbemaru: 7:38pm On Dec 10, 2017
macof:


Smh. Awori(represented by the Idejo) never paid royalties. The bini descedants in Lagos did. Shes confusing her clan of people with all Awori. Admittedly bini descendants(which she is) are integrated into the Awori group but they still organised themselves differently. Awori land starts from Ado-odo in Ogun state till Lagos town(Lagos island)
The Ado-odo group is one, Ota group(or what remains of the Awori in Ota) is one, Iseri and Ikeja areas are another, the mainland and island Awori are another then the assimilated bini descendants in the island are another.
Let's stop using sentiments to discuss history in this country

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Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by Abagworo(m): 7:39pm On Dec 10, 2017
macof:
Fashola is Awori from Lagos island
Ambode is Ijebu from Epe

Let a bini man from Edo state come and be governor shebi Tinubu came from Osun state to be governor of Lagos

That's the hypocrisy of Nigeria and the reason Rivers State was made to be at loggerheads with hinterland Igbos. Lagos is a coastal multi-ethnic State like Rivers but because Yorubas didn't fight a civil war were given full rights as closest neighbours with similar language.

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Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by codemaniacs: 7:41pm On Dec 10, 2017
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Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by codemaniacs: 7:49pm On Dec 10, 2017
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Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by akigbemaru: 7:51pm On Dec 10, 2017
Pigsandidiots:
Royalty ko, rayalro ni. Bini, own Lagos, Bini own oyo, bini own ondo, bini own onitsa. Where did they now come from. They leave town like ore n owo but go to own Lagos that has no boundary with them. This is laughable. Aunty erelu, why didn't you bring out fact for your claim.
Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by akigbemaru: 7:53pm On Dec 10, 2017
Blackfyre:
But i thought the Idejos own the lands in Lagos?

Plus when the Onirus were paid about 300 thousand pounds by the state government decades back, why wasn't that amount paid to the Bini/Lagos Royal family? Or are the Onirus Bini?
Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by BakireBulmaker: 7:53pm On Dec 10, 2017
ritababe:


when u are defeated you result to insult, are u an ipob?

Defeated ke

Where and when

You better thank Seu.n for a giving you ants a platform to rant

Edos are ants beside Yorubas.

Yorubas will rule Lagos forever.

Go and ...
Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by akigbemaru: 7:56pm On Dec 10, 2017
Alaska90:


My brother its difficult for me to even reply the woman. There so many lies in her attempt to rewrite history. The Aworis have been in Lagos area before any other group of people including ijebu, bini, ondo etc came to Lagos.The woman said Lagos was an extension of Bini Kingdom ( another big lie). So if this was true, then the ijebus, ondos, ilaje and other group along the way to Lagos from bini were at one time under bini empire too, but this never happened (no historical data to supprt this). Oyo empire controlled most present Yoruba land even up to Dahomey in present day republic of Benin. The dahomey king was even paying tax to Oyo empire at one time (historical fact).

Another lie that is common is that Lagos was a military camp for bini empire ( grin grin grin). But the question is military camp for which war? war with Oyo empire or with who? The true is that bini kingdom never had military capability for such expedition.The books are there for people to read but they wont my brother.
Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by Born2Breed(f): 7:56pm On Dec 10, 2017
BakireBulmaker:



Your Edo rants begin and end on NL.

The few Lagosians with Edo ancestry can never rewrite the history of Lagos.

They are clowns like you. Only on NL will you hear them. Nobody takes them serious.

Hahahaha



GIBBERISH, AS USUAL.

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Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by akigbemaru: 7:57pm On Dec 10, 2017
codemaniacs:


you're contradicting yourself..

you said "if bini don't own ikale and ilaje lands which is more closer to bini geographically."

then said "The only place the bini conquered in Lagos is the island which was reversed after the Europeans landed on shores of Lagos."

for the binis to conquer the island they had to pass through dozens of yoruba villages, if they eventually reached the island they have to face attacks from yorubas in present day Benin republic which would have been too much for them to handle..

the europeans never landed on the shores of lagos peacefully they fought the yorubas until there was an agreement to build a school there and other yoruba villages still opposed the europeans.... go and read about tinubu's grandmother...
Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by akigbemaru: 7:58pm On Dec 10, 2017
baby124:

This woman is desperately trying to rewrite history. The fact of the matter is that Bini’s Came and settled in Lagos Island. Not the whole of Lagos. Even the so called titled chiefs bought land from the Locals, Awori’s and Ijebus. Some of these families are still royalties on their lands all over Lagos. Even Lagos Island was not uninhabited. But the people welcomed or were subjugated by the binis that came with military might. They were mostly fishermen and farmers. She’s just a liar. If she was telling the truth, all those royal families in Lagos will be of Bini heritage. Which does not even exist. Only about 5% are of Bini heritage. The only people that paid royalty to Bini kingdom is the Oba of Lagos Island, and that stopped when they refused to continue sending money home. I can show you evidence of how some Bini families paid for their land actually.
Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by BakireBulmaker: 7:58pm On Dec 10, 2017
Born2Breed:



GIBBERISH, AS USUAL.

Well, we know those who are ranting.

And it's not Yorubas.
Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by Adefemiaderoju1: 7:58pm On Dec 10, 2017
BakireBulmaker:


Don't mind the mofos.

Go to the heart of Benin including the palace and see pure Yoruba imprints everywhere.

Bunch of clowns.
What the clown dont know is we made bini the first oba in bini oranyan is Yoruba
Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by akigbemaru: 7:59pm On Dec 10, 2017
delpee:
How come the Idejos who are Aworis own the land irrespective of the Oba? The Obas territory in reality is just the "eko camp" (Lagos Island) or more appropriately Isale Eko. The Oniru for instance seems to own and oversee land (outside government acquisition) from VI towards Lekki.

Theres a story about how the Aworis migrated from Ile Ife to Lagos. Erelu is not telling the truth. Probably she's trying to safeguard the interests of the descendants of King Ado.
Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by Nobody: 7:59pm On Dec 10, 2017
codemaniacs:


unless you're bini... the way you're contradicting yourself again...

you said "The Oyo Yoruba and bini conquered territories"

then said "This is because the monarchs have the same origin. They hardly fight each other"..

how can the binis conquer Yoruba territories and the yorubas won't react... the yorubas allowed binis stay in Yoruba land for a reason maybe they were training the binis...
contradicting contractdicting. That is not how to win a debate logically by repeating a word just to discredict my post.

Why did you refuse to see the obvious. Every bini and Yoruba know the origin of there monarchy system is oduduwa, the disagreement has always being the orgin of oduduwa himself


Yorubas were never under one umbrella. Yorubas are group of homogenous people sharing similar culture and language. Even the dialect of eastern Yoruba is different from those in the central and so on.

It was the monarch system introduced by oduduwa sons and Oyo Yoruba empire that sort to unify Yoruba under one umbrella.

Still, some yorubas weren't under the rule or Oyo yorubas or any of oduduwa sons. Those groups include the ilaje, ikale, and the various ondo groups. That is were bini monarch held sway. The other Yoruba groups under other oduduwa sons will not have attacked them because they don't feel threatened.


read Yoruba history.

Oromiyan (the son of oduduwa) played an important role in forming the bini monarchy system. He was also the founder of the
Oyo empire.


read that


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oranyan
Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by akigbemaru: 8:00pm On Dec 10, 2017
baby124:

grin grin grin
Are you minding her? The woman doesn’t even have a straight story. What a fantasy. She doesn’t want her family to be seen as interlopers. I think the Obaship of Lagos Island might be threatened in some way. So they are planting useless stories everywhere. Eyo is from Ijebus. I am Awori from Lagos Island and I have no Bini male ancestor.
Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by BakireBulmaker: 8:05pm On Dec 10, 2017
Adefemiaderoju1:

What the clown dont know is we made bini the first oba in bini oranyan is Yoruba

Abi

Yoruba used to be spoken in the palace until lately.

But the jokers will now foolishly and shamelessly turn around to tell us one cock and bull story of how Ekaladerhan wandered from Benin, landed in Ife, became their king automatically and then had his name changed to Oduduwa. Bulllshit!

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Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by Pigsandidiots: 8:09pm On Dec 10, 2017
jchioma:


Learn to read and comprehend, Bini kingdom is landlocked and Lagos was their route to intl business, seaport and outpost, and they claimed it, long before the Aworis. Yes, they collected royalties from the Afonjas and other migrants. Chew it.
Is ondo landlocked. Or your head is paining you. You think we are daft in these generation we are. Oga, if your claim is right, bring out fact or fashy.

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Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by codemaniacs: 8:27pm On Dec 10, 2017
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Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by JANK23H(m): 8:31pm On Dec 10, 2017
"Benin was landlocked but, as Benin Empire, they were interacting with people from other parts of the world"

Yet they lay claim Gelegele a coastal town.
Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by Nobody: 8:33pm On Dec 10, 2017
codemaniacs:


those are the names of villages... People identify with their villages on a local level but on the national level they were and are still known as Yorubas...

Yoruba means Joy of Kings/Queens..

if you change to it to its first meaning Iyaruba means mother of kings/queens/gods/goddesses..

Yoruba has never been a "later day political creation"... It is a way of life, a nation and the identity of the first Intellectuals....

the mother is of the black race...

You have no idea how bad the Yorubas have fallen...
You need to read history bro

Even the word yoruba was only used to identify yorubas under the Oyo yoruba empire.

we have
awori
ikale
ilaje
ijesha
Egba
ijebus and so on


All with villages and mini towns. e.g ijebus had ijebu ode, oru and ijebu igbo,

All with distinct dialect, type of dressing, and type of food.

it obvious we are not arguing with facts
Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by baddosky1: 8:42pm On Dec 10, 2017
Dinirojones:
Patiently waiting for the eastern developers to start masturbating all over this thread .....na this kine topic dey give them erection...... grin

Face and counter the Bini people who have told you to your face that they own Lagos and stop stroking your dishevelled d*ck with the word "Igbos".

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Re: "Benin People Owned Lagos, Aworis Paid Royalties To Them" — Erelu Abiola Dosunmu by horsepower101: 8:44pm On Dec 10, 2017
codemaniacs:


"Rivers State was made to be at loggerheads with hinterland Igbos" because the igbos allowed it, the Igbos fought a civil war when they had everything they needed right there in their land...

the igbo elders lacked fore-sight and didn't see that they were been played into losing their resources which also led to the entire southern Nigeria loosing its resources, Ojukwu and his gang of southerners lacked were complicit in destabilizing southern Nigeria..

Lagos is NOT a coastal multi-ethnic State, It is the property of the YORUBA nation..

EMM who wrote your history book? Ojukwu declared biafra only after the eastern congress gave him approval. At the time of the declaration over 60 thousand igbos and other eastern minorities have been killed all over Nigeria.

Nigeria after the massacre of Igbos declared war on Biafra on the advice of the british who promised them unlimited supply of weapons to win the war. Their main reason was to gain unlimited access to the oils wells in the east. This is why gowon reneged on the aburi accord.

I don't blame the elders for voting to defend their people. Its sad that they lost the war but without british assistance Biafra would have been celebrating 50 years of independence this year.

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