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Re: UN Vote: No Decision To Sanction Nigeria Yet - US Says by babajero(m): 7:35am On Dec 26, 2017
Efewestern:


127 stood for justice, if you like be from the moon, you are wrong, you are wrong.

Isreal are no different from any nations of this world, and should be condemned if they over step their boundaries.



So 127 countries of the world voted base on religion?

SMH, don't have anything to say.
If it has been the other way round, I believe you would have been writing #ISTAND. Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, and it has been deliberated by America some years back', Trump is just only keeping to his promise and that is the quality of a good leader.

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Re: UN Vote: No Decision To Sanction Nigeria Yet - US Says by Ovamboland(m): 8:49am On Dec 26, 2017
Saaruman:
It's not about advisers misleading him. Buhari the Vegetable has always been a religious bigot and a fundamentalist. The same hypocrite who supports a statehood for Palestine, yet rejects a statehood for Biafra. Buhari's Hypocrisy will bury this rudderless govt.

Daft statement, there is a UN resolution that created 2 states in Palestine area, one Jewish one Arab, is there such UN resolution asking for the creation of Biafra? Don't compare Apple and Oranges as the same.

You can see what happened to Catalonia region in Spain, even the EU did not intervene on the premise that it's Spanish internal affairs, yet one Albino scammed his people that the same EU is coming to intervene in Nigeria to create Biafra, use the stuff between your ears
Re: UN Vote: No Decision To Sanction Nigeria Yet - US Says by Ovamboland(m): 10:18am On Dec 26, 2017
osazsky:
US shld just stop buying crude oil from Nigeria so DAT these foolish politicians can start drinking it, pls it will give me great pleasure to watch Nigeria economy crumble under these our present leaders who value religion and ethnicity more than education ,health

these are the type of people who wish evil for their own country because of simple electoral loss.

Even the one who lost has since moved on to better things, their mind is still stuck in March 2015.
Re: UN Vote: No Decision To Sanction Nigeria Yet - US Says by Cyynthialove(f): 10:36am On Dec 26, 2017
They should sanction Nigeria immediately.
Re: UN Vote: No Decision To Sanction Nigeria Yet - US Says by Ovamboland(m): 10:41am On Dec 26, 2017
EsotericMonk:

That is exactly where our diplomacy is lacking.
Obj would clearly abstain, knowing that different power blocs have vested interest in the country but our Islamic fanatic leader unsurprisingly displayed his loyalty to OIC not minding the greater good of the country.
And to think that Israel had been heavily involved in consultancy services to our security forces makes it all the more ill thought out

So the UK, France, Germany, that voted for the UN resolution are also controlled by OIC? Are capable of any independent thought outside scripture? Are your types the ones that support genocide because the person said he was lead by God to commit the atrocities?

Is your sense of right and wrong based on the personalities involved or the facts of the matter?
Re: UN Vote: No Decision To Sanction Nigeria Yet - US Says by Ovamboland(m): 11:26am On Dec 26, 2017
Corpus separatum (Latin for "separated body"wink is a term used to describe the Jerusalem area in the 1947 United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine. According to the plan the city would be placed under international regime, conferring it a special status due to its shared religious importance. The corpus separatum was one of the main issues of the Lausanne Conference of 1949, besides the other borders and the question of the right of return of Palestinian refugees. The plan was adopted by the General Assembly with a two-thirds majority, although its implementation failed and nowadays the view that Jerusalem should be the capital of both Israel and Palestine is widely supported internationally.[1][2]

With its many holy places and its association with three world religions, Jerusalem had international importance. The United Nations wanted to preserve this status after termination of the British Mandate and guarantee its accessibility. Therefore, the General Assembly proposed a corpus separatum, as described in Resolution 181. It was to be "under a special international regime and shall be administered by the United Nations". The administering body would be the United Nations Trusteeship Council, one of the five UN "Charter" organs. (See Resolution 181, Part III (A).))

The corpus separatum covered a rather wide area. The Arabs actually wanted to restore the former status as an open city under Arab sovereignty, but eventually supported the corpus separatum.[3] Israel rejected the plan and supported merely a limited international regime.[4][5] In May 1948, Israel told the Security Council that it regarded Jerusalem outside its territory,[6] but now it claimed sovereignty over Jerusalem except the Holy Places.[citation needed]

Failure of the plan
The Partition Plan was not implemented on the ground. The British did not make any measures to establish the international regime and left the city on 14 May, leaving a power vacuum,[13] as war broke out between the neighboring Arab nations and the newly declared State of Israel. The Battle for Jerusalem ended with Israel in control of west Jerusalem and Jordan controlling the east. On 2 August 1948 the government of Israel declared the Israeli-controlled part of the Jerusalem area Israel-occupied territory.[14] At the end of the 1948-49 War, under the Armistice Agreement, an Armistice Demarcation Line was drawn, with Western Jerusalem occupied by Israel and the whole West Bank occupied by Transjordan. By letter of 31 May 1949, Israel told the UN Committee on Jerusalem that it considered another attempt to implement a united Jerusalem under international regime "impracticable" and favored an alternative UN scenario in which Jerusalem would be divided into a Jewish and an Arab zone.[4] Israeli Prime Minister Ben-Gurion declared "Jewish Jerusalem" (West Jerusalem) an organic, inseparable part of the State of Israel on 5 December 1949. He also declared Israel no longer bound by Resolution 181 and the corpus separatum null and void, on grounds that the UN had not made good on its guarantees of security for the people of Jerusalem under that agreement.[10]

Following the Six-Day War of 1967, Israel also gained military control of East Jerusalem[15] and the West Bank. Israel expanded the municipal boundaries of occupied Jerusalem; these, however, are not recognized internationally. The present municipal boundaries of Jerusalem are not the same as those of the corpus separatum set out in the Partition Plan and do not include Bethlehem, Motza, or Abu Dis.

International support
Main article: Positions on Jerusalem
As the UN has never revoked its resolutions 181 and 194, it maintains the official position that Jerusalem should be placed under a special international regime.[16] Nevertheless, Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said on 28 October 2009 that Jerusalem must be the capital of both Israel and Palestine.[17]

European Union
The European Union continues to support the internationalisation of Jerusalem in accordance with the 1947 UN Partition Plan and regards Jerusalem as having the status of corpus separatum.[18]

United States
The United States has never officially relinquished its early support of the corpus separatum. On 23 October 1995, the Congress passed the advisory Jerusalem Embassy Act saying that "Jerusalem should be recognized as the capital of the State of Israel; and the United States Embassy in Israel should be established in Jerusalem no later than May 31, 1999". Since 1998, the congressional suggestion to relocate the embassy from Tel Aviv has been suspended semi-annually by every sitting President, each time stating that this "is necessary to protect the national security interests of the United States".

In his presidential campaign, Donald Trump announced that he would move the US embassy to Jerusalem. As president, he said in an interview in February 2017 to the Israeli newspaper Israel Hayom that he was studying the issue.[19] While Trump decided in May not to move the embassy to Jerusalem "for now," to avoid provoking the Palestinians,[20] on 6 December 2017 he recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and has begun the process of moving the embassy to the city.

Since the U.S. Congress does not control U.S. foreign policy, despite the Embassy Act, official U.S. documents and web sites do not refer to Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.[21]

Re: UN Vote: No Decision To Sanction Nigeria Yet - US Says by Nobody: 1:35pm On Dec 26, 2017
Ovamboland:


So the UK, France, Germany, that voted for the UN resolution are also controlled by OIC? Are capable of any independent thought outside scripture? Are your types the ones that support genocide because the person said he was lead by God to commit the atrocities?

Is your sense of right and wrong based on the personalities involved or the facts of the matter?
Bros, sit down and listen to yourself. Are seriously mentioning UK, Germany, France in the same breathe as Nigeria? That's serious banter grin grin These on their own are power blocs, they can cough and the US would notice. The US needs these countries. The subject of discussion is why countries that heavily lean on the US for AID go round to vote against the US interest.
In the world of diplomacy, you consider your long term interest and where your allegiance lies. Nigeria is one of the highest aid recipient in the world, the US aid is actually about a quarter of our budget as at the last available data , doesn't that tell you something? Most of the heavily aided countries who voted against USA are in the middle east (that's a power bloc), countries like Egypt are not secular like Nigeria and the US needs Egypt for peace in the middle east. All these your talk of god and personality kaza kaza doestn cut it in diplomacy. Power blocs and dependent countries vote for vested interest. Now what is Nigeria's vested interest by voting nay?
We don't even have what it takes to stand on our own. Consider what would have become of us if USAID isn't intervening in Malaria, HIV, Polio etc in our country. Let alone potable water, hospital equipments, jobs etc. I work in the north and you can only imagine what would become of us if the US decides to hands off.
We saw what happened when they reduced their interest in our crude oil, my broda, we were handicapped.
Let's put aside sentiments and religious inclinations and think of the future of our children.
Wisdom is profitable to direct.
Re: UN Vote: No Decision To Sanction Nigeria Yet - US Says by Ovamboland(m): 2:36pm On Dec 26, 2017
EsotericMonk:

Bros, sit down and listen to yourself. Are seriously mentioning UK, Germany, France in the same breathe as Nigeria? That's serious banter grin grin These on their own are power blocs, they can cough and the US would notice. The US needs these countries. The subject of discussion is why countries that heavily lean on the US for AID go round to vote against the US interest.
In the world of diplomacy, you consider your long term interest and where your allegiance lies. Nigeria is one of the highest aid recipient in the world, the US aid is actually about a quarter of our budget as at the last available data , doesn't that tell you something? Most of the heavily aided countries who voted against USA are in the middle east (that's a power bloc), countries like Egypt are not secular like Nigeria and the US needs Egypt for peace in the middle east. All these your talk of god and personality kaza kaza doestn cut it in diplomacy. Power blocs and dependent countries vote for vested interest. Now what is Nigeria's vested interest by voting nay?
We don't even have what it takes to stand on our own. Consider what would have become of us if USAID isn't intervening in Malaria, HIV, Polio etc in our country. Let alone potable water, hospital equipments, jobs etc. I work in the north and you can only imagine what would become of us if the US decides to hands off.
We saw what happened when they reduced their interest in our crude oil, my broda, we were handicapped.
Let's put aside sentiments and religious inclinations and think of the future of our children.
Wisdom is profitable to direct.

It's a pity you have such a low opinion of your own country and by extension your own person, that for a morsel you are willing to trade your own mind and conscience. World diplomacy has gone beyond the days of Theodore Roosevelt mantra of speak softly but carry a big stick. The diplomatic image of the USA since the end of 2nd World war has always been having the moral authority and always served to rally the free world. It's instructive that only dictators like Putin and human right violators like Philipines Duterte that are now Trumps buddies also expired dictators of African banana republics like Togo, Cameroon fighting for survival. A big shame that it is such people Trump can carry along with his foolish ideas and ofcourse those whose worldview is restricted to scriptures.

The UN was formed to reduce impunity and unilateral actions that led to the two world wars and was headquartered in USA due to the stable responsible governance. The type of responsible and fair governance that Trump is pissing upon with his childish, partisan ideas. His misbehavior inches the world closer to catastrophic warfare. The UN resolution he rejected on Israel will still form the basis of his rally against North Korea to contain it's nuclear ambitions. Hypocrisy

You should ask yourself why Trump failed to rally a single country out of USA traditional allies? Those countries who always went to war on USA side almost blindfolded. Did they all suddenly become anti-Jew overnight? When Hitler who was also elected started his macabre dance he was similarly applauded by gullible and selfish people until he unleashed his madness unto the whole world.
Re: UN Vote: No Decision To Sanction Nigeria Yet - US Says by boldaslion: 12:07pm On Dec 28, 2017
Efewestern:



Please explain @the bolded, how is it Jewish land ?,

Nigeria is not the only country who voted in favour of Palestine, the people are being oppressed by your so called Jews, Wrong is wrong no matter who is involve.

Be rational when replying. happy Sunday.

You are actually bereft of historical knowledge. Lebanon, Palestine and other arab nations only came to occupy Jerusalem and Jewish land after Jerusalem was destroyed and conquered by General Titus in 70AD. The Jews know the boundaries of their land which they started recovering in 1967 Arab Israeli war. Better accept the fact and leave with it. If the Arabs do anyhow they will see anyhow. Maybe this will afford the Israelis the opportunity to retrieve the remaining part of their land from the terrorists.

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