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Re: Jesus, Not God by adekhingz(m): 10:10pm On Jan 03
enilove:


I want to ask you one question , does Allah means title of a supreme being or name of a God?

Like God is a title for a supreme being who Created heaven and earth in English language. And the name of that God to the Christians is Jehovah.

What is the name of Allah ?. Don't give us any attributes , pls.

Allah means God. It's the exact Arabic translation of God. Muslims prefer calling "Allah" in the Arabic form to calling "God" to keep the Arabic form of the word Alive. Muslims or non-muslims in the Arabic speaking country refer to God as Allah, regardless of their faith.
Re: Jesus, Not God by enilove(m): 10:19pm On Jan 03
adekhingz:


The child is Mary's. He has no father.

You are wrong.

God is his Father .

That is why Jesus said :

John 10:25-38 KJV
Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. [26] But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
[27] My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
[28] And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
[29] My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
[30] I and my Father are one.
[31] Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
[32] Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? [33] The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
[34] Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
[35] If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
[36] Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
[37] If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
[38] But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.


Read the above and pray. Just tell God to direct your ways.
Re: Jesus, Not God by enilove(m): 10:23pm On Jan 03
adekhingz:


Allah means God. It's the exact Arabic translation of God. Muslims prefer calling "Allah" in the Arabic form to calling "God" to keep the Arabic form of the word Alive. Muslims or non-muslims in the Arabic speaking country refer to God as Allah, regardless of their faith.

If Allah means God, that means it s title.
What then is the name of that God or Allah ?
Re: Jesus, Not God by dallyemmy: 11:32pm On Jan 03
adekhingz:


Yet, the father is not the son. it's just as simple as that. thanks
Read John Chapter 1. He is known as Word in heaven. The Word created the world. The Word is God. Jesus is the Word. As many that believe in him has been given power to become the sons of God. My dear leave argument. I have encountered this Man Jesus. Boy he has power. In his name salvation is preached. Ask any occultic person who is the Word. Have you operated in the spiritual realm before? Take Jesus name there and you will know he is God. Boy leave argument. Oh boy leave head knowledge. I am talking to you from raw experience my dear.

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Re: Jesus, Not God by Nobody: 1:32am On Jan 04
adekhingz:


You've only succeeded in giving reference to my point. You guys are getting it wrong. God is one. He didn't impregnate Mary as you accused. Birth of Jesus by Mary was a miracle. Neither Jesus nor any other being deserves to be worshipped. Okay, let's agree that Jesus is a god in human form, why not pray to the heavenly God? Why must you pray to a man? Was that how people worship Jesus when he was alive Evidence to him being worshipped during his lifetime, please!!!!
Mary was overshadowed by the holy spirit ( Luke 1:34-35). Who is the holy spirit? He is God's spirit.
Jesus was there from the beginning of creation. The Bible verses to back my claims are Col 1:3, John 1:3, 1 Cor 8:6 . it is something that you can not understand because you study the Bible like history. Haven't you wonder why his disciples asked where is God? Why was Jesus so perfect on planet or can man be perfect? Throughout Jesus existence on earth, he never committed any sin yet he was killed.
Which prophet is as holy as Jesus?
Jesus deserved to be worshipped why because he was the only one that took the key of life and death from Satan. That is why at thy mention of his name every knee must bow. All powers bow to Jesus. It's his blood that was shed for humanity.
Re: Jesus, Not God by adekhingz(m): 12:46pm On Jan 26
asuustrike2009:

All powers bow to Jesus.

Why you shouldn't idolize Jesus and worship the true Jehova (God);
1. Matthew 24:36
No one knows about that day or hour, not even the Son, but the Father only.


(If you'll agree that Jesus is the son and he does not even know when the Judgement day will be, but his father know, why not abandon the son and worship the father). You may want to create a case that ONE can't get to his father except through him. This will imply you are accepting that Jesus is below God. Why should you still call Jesus God ?

2. Matthew 26:39
My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me, yet not as I will, but as Thou will.


(As you ca see here, Jesus submitted his will to the will of God. It's NOT the will of Jesus that matters, it's the will of God). If you are making a case that the Jesus and God are one, who was Jesus praying to here?

3. John 5:26
For as the Father has life in Himself, so he has [b]granted[/b] the Son to have life in himself.


(God granted Jesus life, just as he granted us too. What makes him equal to God?)

4. John 5:30
By myself, I can do nothing: I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who has sent me.


(this shows Jesus to be a messenger, sent by the one and only true God. God could have sent God message. If your believe is contrary to this fact, then Christianity and other Traditional religions are polytheist. Not better than an idol worshiper).

5. Mark 10:18
Why do you call me good? No one is good, except God alone.


(Even Jesus is not perfect, based on the contextual meaning of this verse. If you want to take it literally, Jesus is as bad as we all are{I'm sure we both won't agree that he is bad})

6. Matthew 27:46
My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?


(He was asking God, not himself i believe. He couldn't have forsaken himself).

7. Hebrews 5:7-9
During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. Although he was a son, he learned obedience from what he suffered and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him.


(this verse shows that Jesus had to walk a course of faith and obedience in order to achieve perfection. By achieving perfection, Jesus “became” the source of eternal salvation).

8. Hebrews 1:3
The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being.


(Jesus is the exact representation of his being. I send my representative to Congress. He is not me, myself. He is my representative).

cc: enilove
Re: Jesus, Not God by Nobody: 1:41pm On Jan 26
adekhingz:


Why you shouldn't idolize Jesus and worship the true Jehova (God);
1. Matthew 24:36
No one knows about that day or hour, not even the Son, but the Father only.


(If you'll agree that Jesus is the son and he does not even know when the Judgement day will be, but his father know, why not abandon the son and worship the father). You may want to create a case that ONE can't get to his father except through him. This will imply you are accepting that Jesus is below God. Why should you still call Jesus God ?

2. Matthew 26:39
My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me, yet not as I will, but as Thou will.


(As you ca see here, Jesus submitted his will to the will of God. It's NOT the will of Jesus that matters, it's the will of God). If you are making a case that the Jesus and God are one, who was Jesus praying to here?

3. John 5:26
For as the Father has life in Himself, so he has [b]granted[/b] the Son to have life in himself.


(God granted Jesus life, just as he granted us too. What makes him equal to God?)

4. John 5:30
By myself, I can do nothing: I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who has sent me.


(this shows Jesus to be a messenger, sent by the one and only true God. God could have sent God message. If your believe is contrary to this fact, then Christianity and other Traditional religions are polytheist. Not better than an idol worshiper).

5. Mark 10:18
Why do you call me good? No one is good, except God alone.


(Even Jesus is not perfect, based on the contextual meaning of this verse. If you want to take it literally, Jesus is as bad as we all are{I'm sure we both won't agree that he is bad})

6. Matthew 27:46
My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?


(He was asking God, not himself i believe. He couldn't have forsaken himself).

7. Hebrews 5:7-9
During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. Although he was a son, he learned obedience from what he suffered and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him.


(this verse shows that Jesus had to walk a course of faith and obedience in order to achieve perfection. By achieving perfection, Jesus “became” the source of eternal salvation).

8. Hebrews 1:3
The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being.


(Jesus is the exact representation of his being. I send my representative to Congress. He is not me, myself. He is my representative).

cc: enilove
Just one bible verse cancels all you had said.
Phil 2:10 "
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,"
Re: Jesus, Not God by adekhingz(m): 3:15pm On Jan 26
asuustrike2009:

Just one bible verse cancels all you had said.
Phil 2:10 "
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,"

You should have quoted from verse 7
7
rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature[b] of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8
And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!

9
Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name,
10
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11
and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.
Re: Jesus, Not God by Nobody: 4:15pm On Jan 26
adekhingz:


You should have quoted from verse 7
7
rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature[b] of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8
And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!

9
Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name,
10
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11
and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.
And who do they reverence more on planet earth, Jesus or God?
Re: Jesus, Not God by adekhingz(m): 4:27pm On Jan 26
asuustrike2009:

And who do they reverence more on planet earth, Jesus or God?

That God. Only you Christians worship Jesus. Every other person worship God.
Re: Jesus, Not God by Nobody: 4:34pm On Jan 26
adekhingz:


That God. Only you Christians worship Jesus. Every other person worship God.
Thank your stars. Yes we worship Jesus and would continue till eternity. Jesus is Lord
Re: Jesus, Not God by adekhingz(m): 5:14pm On Jan 26
asuustrike2009:

Thank your stars. Yes we worship Jesus and would continue till eternity. Jesus is Lord

Let's not argue over this. I can't coerce you to stop believing what you've been indoctrinated to believe. But if you would be sincere, you'll realise that Jesus is not who you should worship, but the God who created Jesus himself.
Re: Jesus, Not God by Nobody: 6:15pm On Jan 26
adekhingz:


Let's not argue over this. I can't coerce you to stop believing what you've been indoctrinated to believe. But if you would be sincere, you'll realise that Jesus is not who you should worship, but the God who created Jesus himself.
It is you that have being indoctrinated. You read too many books. Too many theories without practical. I had felt the presence of Jesus. I had communicated with him. He is very much alive. He has supernatural powers that witches are afraid of his name. You there not mention it at their gathering if not that coven will close for a month. Jesus is God that is why all powers were given to him. He is coming to take his own by separating the sheeps from the goats.
Re: Jesus, Not God by adekhingz(m): 1:29pm On Jan 29
asuustrike2009:

It is you that have being indoctrinated. You read too many books. Too many theories without practical. I had felt the presence of Jesus. I had communicated with him. He is very much alive. He has supernatural powers that witches are afraid of his name. You there not mention it at their gathering if not that coven will close for a month. Jesus is God that is why all powers were given to him. He is coming to take his own by separating the sheeps from the goats.

Thank you.

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