Do children, dead foetuses, stillborns and dead little children share the same HELL as Hitler, Sadam, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mother Teresa, Satan?

Or do these little ones have their own purposed-made punishment chamber with tiny little flames?

I think the ones u mentioned above knew no sin.
Hell cant be for them,just my thought

Kx:

I think the ones u mentioned above knew no sin.
Hell cant be for them,just my thought

If hell is not meant for them, can we say its better to die at that stage than being born into a poor country/home and end up in hell if nurtured into a wrong sect.

What is the essence of being born and suffer here and end up in eternal hell, my thought is that if there is hell fire somewhere, human should have been given chance to choose either to be born or not into this wicked world, My thought also

what do you guys take god for? a wicked man with a wipe in his hand always anxiously waiting for any slightest mistake that would be commited by mankind so he could punish and distroy and cast them into hell? hell no! god is love, perfect and unconditional lover he is, he is just and inpatial in nature. he is a god that believes in freedom of choice for his creatures, he has set before them life and death, it is their duty to choose life or death

joe4christ:

what do you guys take god for? a wicked man with a wipe in his hand always anxiously waiting for any slightest mistake that would be commited by mankind so he could punish and distroy and cast them into hell? hell no! god is love, perfect and unconditional lover he is, he is just and inpatial in nature. he is a god that believes in freedom of choice for his creatures, he has set before them life and death, it is their duty to choose life or death

OK, so what is this loving God doing to do about dead foetuses, stillborns and dead 2 year old kids? Is he gonna send them to the fires of hell or has he prepared a special small kiddies hell for them?

but he advices we choose lif so we can live, he never wish that any man should perish, but that all might live, as mata of fact hell was not created 4 mortals, it was originaly created 4 d devil and d fallen angels but humans due to their stuborn heart still choose 2 trade d path of hell, playing with god's emotion by acting like d devil and d fallen angels. god wil never cast a child 2 hell except that child has reach d age of accountability {7}

joe4christ:

what do you guys take god for? a wicked man with a wipe in his hand always anxiously waiting for any slightest mistake that would be commited by mankind so he could punish and distroy and cast them into hell? hell no! god is love, perfect and unconditional lover he is, he is just and inpatial in nature. he is a god that believes in freedom of choice for his creatures, he has set before them life and death, it is their duty to choose life or death

At what stage in life can this choice be made, I'm sure there are several people on earth (without their consent) born and nurtured into different sects, these people can not by their own power get out of the belief system except by God's grace which is unmerited favour. So how do you justified their going into hell

huxley:

OK, so what is this loving God doing to do about dead foetuses, stillborns and dead 2 year old kids? Is he gonna send them to the fires of hell or has he prepared a special small kiddies hell for them?

In heaven people are judged by the measure of light. meaning they are judged by the knowledge of the word of God and of good and evil they had b4 they died.

joe4christ:

but he advices we choose lif so we can live, he never wish that any man should perish, but that all might live, as mata of fact hell was not created 4 mortals, it was originaly created 4 d devil and d fallen angels but humans due to their stuborn heart still choose 2 trade d path of hell, playing with god's emotion by acting like d devil and d fallen angels. god wil never cast a child 2 hell except that child has reach d age of accountability {7}

How is the age of accountability set? Is this an objective value?

Is there material growth in hell and in heaven? So if a foetus gets to go to heaven does it remain a foetus for eternity?

Many billions of foetuses and fertilised eggs are lost each year. Do all of these go to heaven and do they remain as foetuses/eggs for eternity?

@ Poster, What did Jesus say to the disciples when they were trying to hinder the little children from him??

tempest01:

@ Poster, What did Jesus say to the disciples when they were trying to hinder the little children from him??

How old were these children? Were they stillborns or foetuses?

huxley:

How old were these children? Were they stillborns or foetuses?

What i'm trying to make u understand there is that those stillborns av not commited any sin or even know what is sin to earn them a place in Hell. If he could say what he said about children probably aged 3-6 then why would stillborns be condemned to hell??

tempest01:

What i'm trying to make u understand there is that those stillborns av not commited any sin or even know what is sin to earn them a place in Hell. If he could say what he said about children probably aged 3-6 then why would stillborns be condemned to hell??

So a surefire way of ensuring that someone goes to heaven is to make them die very young indeed. What is the point of growing up if by growing up you reduce your chances of finishing up in heaven?

Further, I thought everyone is born with original sin. Is that not the case?

huxley:

So a surefire way of ensuring that someone goes to heaven is to make them die very young indeed. What is the point of growing up if by growing up you reduce your chances of finishing up in heaven?

Further, I thought everyone is born with original sin. Is that not the case?

Well a sure fire way 2 go to heaven is to repent and repenting is like going back to your childhood period. Well no 1 is righteous but you can try and flee away from sin as much as possible. As 4 d original sin well that was the reason christ died on the cross. His blood speaketh better things than the blood of Adam. Further you have to identify or let me say agree with something in order for the effects of that thing to be on you. Futhermore the children Jesus accepted would you say they had original sin and were they knowledgeable enough to identify with sins of their fathers??

We are born into a world of sin it is left to us when we understand this to embrace it or flee from it,

tempest01:

Well a sure fire way 2 go to heaven is to repent and repenting is like going back to your childhood period. Well no 1 is righteous but you can try and flee away from sin as much as possible. As 4 d original sin well that was the reason christ died on the cross. His blood speaketh better things than the blood of Adam. Further you have to identify or let me say agree with something in order for the effects of that thing to be on you. Futhermore the children Jesus accepted would you say they had original sin and were they knowledgeable enough to identify with sins of their fathers??

So a foetus or stillborn with original sin who cannot repent and thus benefit from the blood of Jesus MUST have to go to hell, mustn't they? What stops from going to hell given that they have original sin?

@huxley NO both foetuses and aborted babies are immidiately carried by angels to the very throne of God the creator of all living thing {Most atimes God shed tears at the site of this innocent souls rejected by their suppose parent} and he instantly put them into right shape where they instantly develope and become living babies and later grow up into adult and waits for the arrival of their parents if at all they are going to be save.

joe4christ:

@huxley NO both foetuses and aborted babies are immidiately carried by angels to the very throne of God the creator of all living thing {Most atimes God shed tears [/b]at the site of this innocent souls rejected by their suppose parent} and [b]he instantly put them into right shape where they instantly develope and become living babies and later grow up into adult and waits for the arrival of their parents if at all they are going to be save.

Are you sure of this, how can God be shedding tears!

joe4christ:

@huxley NO both foetuses and aborted babies are immidiately carried by angels to the very throne of God the creator of all living thing {Most atimes God shed tears at the site of this innocent souls rejected by their suppose parent} and he instantly put them into right shape where they instantly develope and become living babies and later grow up into adult and waits for the arrival of their parents if at all they are going to be save.

sarmy:

Are you sure of this, how can God be shedding tears!

Hahahahahahaha!   You just gotta love the imaginations of the nigerians faithfuls!Lol! God sheds tears!

@Sarmy When the bible says God created man in his image and LIKENESS what does that mean to you? Go back to the old testerment you'll discorver how emotional God could be atimes, HE FEELS SAD, HE GETS ANGRY, HE SMILES, LAUGH AND WHAT ELSE? SO WHAT MAKES YOU THINK HE WONT EQUALY CRY, REMEMBER WE POSSESSES ALL THIS ATTRIBUTE AND GOD EXHIBITS THEM. REMEMBER HOW MANY TIMES JESUS WEPT IN THE NEW TESTERMENT!

joe4christ:

@Sarmy When the bible says God created man in his image and LIKENESS what does that mean to you? Go back to the old testerment you'll discorver how emotional God could be atimes, HE FEELS SAD, HE GETS ANGRY, HE SMILES, LAUGH AND WHAT ELSE? SO WHAT MAKES YOU THINK HE WONT EQUALY CRY, REMEMBER WE POSSESSES ALL THIS ATTRIBUTE AND GOD EXHIBITS THEM. REMEMBER HOW MANY TIMES JESUS WEPT IN THE NEW TESTERMENT!

The bible god felt those emotions because he was a finite being that was either created by the imaginations of ancient hebrew priests, or he was just a remnant of a once super- advanced race in the pre-adamic era. Either way, his display of emotions declared him a finite being.

The true GOD cannot laugh on IT's own, it laughs through us. When we laugh, it laughs, when we feel it feels, when we cry, it cries, and so on and so forth. GOD can experience emotions ONLY through us.

joe4christ:

@Sarmy When the bible says God created man in his image and LIKENESS what does that mean to you? Go back to the old testerment you'll discorver how emotional God could be atimes, HE FEELS SAD, HE GETS ANGRY, HE SMILES, LAUGH AND WHAT ELSE? SO WHAT MAKES YOU THINK HE WONT EQUALY CRY, REMEMBER WE POSSESSES ALL THIS ATTRIBUTE AND GOD EXHIBITS THEM. REMEMBER HOW MANY TIMES JESUS WEPT IN THE NEW TESTERMENT!

Yes, we were created in his image (remember before Adam sinned) and he was not created in our image, its' inappropriate to think God has negative emotions.

huxley:

So a foetus or stillborn with original sin who cannot repent and thus benefit from the blood of Jesus MUST have to go to hell, mustn't they? What stops from going to hell given that they have original sin?

I am amazed at the level of seriousness you are giving this issue.
Whats the point?
What are you bent on achieving please?

If you truly want an answer to this question and your aim is not just ridicule, go through

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-419596.0.html#msg5770546

AND

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-419596.0.html#msg5768324

All have sinned and have fallen short of the glory of god. I had always assumed that that was christians believe. Is that not why why the catholics invented purgatory because they realised that the belief that even babies will have to go to hell unless they accept christ was unfair to persons who are unable to do so.
What happens to those who are mentally ill and are unable to make any decisions for themselves? will they go to hell or can they be saved by proxy?

@sarmy i never said god had negetive emotion,  or when has crying become a negetive emotion? remember jesus wept at the death of lazarus even though he had the power to raise him from the dead, so what do u think made him to weep over the death even though he later prove his power by bringing him back to life again? he wept because the bible said he loved lazarrus and his family. remember jesus is god and the fulness of the godhead bodily,

the prophet [muhammad]s.a.w said young children in this condition will be commanded all to go to hell but some will wait and say to Allah[s.w.t] that it is unfair for them to go to hell since they did not come to the world. Then Allah[s.w.t] will say that those who have headed to hell among them would have been the one to obey him on the surface of the world and they should got to paradise but those who have waited to lodge their complains will be the one to disobey him and they should go to hell.

balium:

the prophet [muhammad]s.a.w said young children in this condition will be commanded all to go to hell but some will wait and say to Allah[s.w.t] that it is unfair for them to go to hell since they did not come to the world. Then Allah[s.w.t] will say that those who have headed to hell among them would have been the one to obey him on the surface of the world and they should got to paradise but those who have waited to lodge their complains will be the one to disobey him and they should go to hell.

Hahahahaha! You're joking,right? Surely. . .