chakula:

@OLAADEGBU Jesus is not God read through your bible well and stop adding or subtracting from the bible.if not who then was Jesus praying to as written in the bible that he prayed to the father.get your points straight.peace unto u my brother

@OLAADEGBU,

WILL YOU AGREE WITH WHAT YOUR BROTHER HAS SAID? 

D.A.V.E:

@OLAADEGBU Jesus is not God read through your bible well and stop adding or subtracting from the bible.if not who then was Jesus praying to as written in the bible that he prayed to the father.get your points straight.peace unto u my brother

chakula:

@OLAADEGBU,
WILL YOU AGREE WITH WHAT YOUR BROTHER HAS SAID?

D.A.V.E:

@OLAADEGBU,i dont like arguements please ,so i pray u get inspired by the word.it is clear that Jesus is not God.
Matthew 3:17 says n i quote "and suddenly a voice came from heaven,saying,this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased"
so was the father in heaven n earth at the same time.

D.A.V.E:

Several chapters describe the father as a different entity/body from the son,even the son knows not the day when this our world as we know would come to an end so how's Jesus God,he shall be sitheth on d right hand of the father.
Quit man Jesus isn't God cos i could go on n on.Read your bible well.
peace.I like your signature(the human problem stuff)

5 When Jesus saw their faith, He said to the paralytic, “Son, your sins are forgiven you.”
6 And some of the scribes were sitting there and reasoning in their hearts, 7 “Why does this Man speak blasphemies like this? Who can forgive sins but God alone?”
8 But immediately, when Jesus perceived in His spirit that they reasoned thus within themselves, He said to them, “Why do you reason about these things in your hearts? 9 Which is easier, to say to the paralytic, ‘Your sins are forgiven you,’ or to say, ‘Arise, take up your bed and walk’? 10 But that you may know that the Son of Man has power on earth to forgive sins”—He said to the paralytic, 11 “I say to you, arise, take up your bed, and go to your house.” 12 Immediately he arose, took up the bed, and went out in the presence of them all, so that all were amazed and glorified God, saying, “We never saw anything like this!”

chakula:

@All,

Why are you perplexing yourselves while i observed you were practicing same credence?
But what is the hitch some are commenting he is not a god while some were affirmed he was, what breed of faith you men have you put into practice?

OLAADEGBU:

Some cults argue that because Jesus prayed to the Father that He could not truly be God. Biblically, however, it was in His humanity that Christ prayed to the Father. Since Christ came as a man, and since one of the proper duties of man is to worship, pray to and adore God -- it was perfectly proper for Jesus to address the Father in prayer.

Positionally speaking as a man, as a Jew and as our High Priest -- "in all things He had to be made like His brethren" (Hebrews 2:7) -- Jesus could pray to the Father. But this in no way detracts from His intrinsic deity.

D.A.V.E:

@OLAADEGBU,i dont like arguements please ,so i pray u get inspired by the word.it is clear that Jesus is not God.
Matthew 3:17 says n i quote "and suddenly a voice came from heaven,saying,this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased"
so was the father in heaven n earth at the same time.

Enigma:

@ D.A.V.E.

Read the below from Mark 2:

chakula:

@OLAADEGBU

YES IS HE.

OLAADEGBU:

Some cults argue that because Jesus prayed to the Father that He could not truly be God.  Biblically, however, it was in His humanity that Christ prayed to the Father.  Since Christ came as a man, and since one of the proper duties of man is to worship, pray to and adore God -- it was perfectly proper for Jesus to address the Father in prayer. 

Positionally speaking as a man, as a Jew and as our High Priest -- "in all things He had to be made like His brethren" (Hebrews 2:7) -- Jesus could pray to the Father.  But this in no way detracts from His intrinsic deity.

OLAADEGBU:

Another Jesus 
March 5, 2010

"For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him." (2 Corinthians 11:4)

The verses following our text contain an enlightening warning about false teachers. One should not carelessly follow a personable religious leader merely because he "preaches Jesus" or urges audiences to "receive the Spirit."

"Jesus" is quite popular among worldly people today, but not the true Jesus. The popular Jesus may be the baby Jesus in the manger at Christmastime, or the buddy Jesus of Nashville "gospel" music, or the success-counseling Jesus of the positive thinkers. He may be the romantic Jesus of the Christian crooners, the rhythmic Jesus of Christian rock, or the reforming Jesus of the liberals, but none of these are the Jesus preached by the apostle Paul, and therefore not the real Jesus who saves men and women from their sins.

Jesus in reality is the Lord Jesus Christ, the offended Creator of the universe (Colossians 1:16), who had to die as man on the cross to redeem us through His shed blood (Colossians 1:14, 20), and who then rose from the dead to be set "far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named" (Ephesians 1:21).  Finally, it is this Jesus "who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom" (2 Timothy 4:1).

The Lord Jesus, as He really is, is not the popular Jesus of T-shirts and bumper stickers, politicians and entertainers. He was "despised and rejected of men" (Isaiah 53:3) so they "crucified the Lord of glory" (1 Corinthians 2:.

He is the mighty God, the perfect man, the only Savior, the eternal King, and Lord of lords. God-called teachers will not preach an imaginary Jesus who appeals to the flesh, but rather the true Christ of creation and salvation. HMM

“Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,”which is translated, “God with us.”

OLAADEGBU:

The jesus you have in your qur'an is he the same Jesus we have in the Bible, or is he another one?

bee444:

Most things taught in Theology and Bible School are hidden to the ordinary church goer just like you. There are controversies surrounding the birth, death, resurrection and personality of Jesus, let alone him being called GOD! The fact is most people that comes from the eastern part of the Nigeria(catholicism, Methodism)  believes that Jesus is God. Why won't they? As long as you people keep calling Mary 'Holy' mother of God to justify your assertiveness.

You claim that Jesus is God, as well as the son of God. Why are you then leaving out the holy spirit? John, Mathew, Mark, Luke all present Jesus to the world according to their own personal conviction. One said he's human, one said he's a spirit, and the others were convinced he's the messiah sent by GOD.

Now the word begotten, this same word has brought controversy both to the Christian faith and people of other faith. I would not have you ignorant, let me explain,
To beget means to sire, to cause to exist, to father, to procreate etc. God begat (cause Jesus to exist) Jesus using Mary as the channel. HE wanted something undiluted to bring HIS plans forth. HE could have chosen any virgin available as at that time (Unmarried singles were virgins during the days of Jesus), but no, Jesus has been foretold to come through the lineage of David, his step father (else the fulfillment of scripture). So, Mary wasn't in any way holy (I don't know where you people get the idea from), "There is none holy, " I Samuel 2:2, Psalm 14:3

Now to the issue of Jesus being the son of God; according to my Bible, anyone born again, spirit filled (either with the evidence of speaking in tongue or not) automatically becomes the son/daughter of God. God said HE formed us (created us, cause us to exist, just like Jesus, in other words, begat us).   Just that the word begotten has got different connotation as originally used these days.

To the issue of the Godhead (trinity), let me give you a simple illustration, God would be [b]phone, Holy Spirit would be simcard, and Jesus would be the airtime.

We all know that simcards and airtimes are useless without a phone! Likewise, a phone would not function properly without the other two.
My point exactly, With my phone and simcard, I could still receive from God regardless of whether I call HIM or not (HIS grace and mercy is showered to the just and unjust), but cannot obtain the fullness of HIS blessing (I have to call HIM and ask for specifics to arrive at these), This is where Jesus (airtime) comes in.
With my airtime I can call anytime and ask for some specific blessings which grace and mercy does not cover. Conclusion, through my illustration we could see that there is God (phone), Holy Spirit (simcard) and Jesus (airtime), all these three (phone, simcard and airtime) are separate entities that can be bought independently but still comes together to work as one.

Phone and simcard would work fine without the need of an airtime, this was proven during the days of Moses and Abraham. Muslims pray to their God without the need to pass through Jesus. Are we now saying that their  prayers aren't answered? Think again!

So my people, we do have the Almighty God, Holy Spirit and Jesus. Holy Spirit is the power or force (whatever you call it)  that God uses to execute HIS purposes. Jesus had to go back to heaven to ask God to breath HIS Spirit upon HIS people on the day of Pentecost. JESUS IS NOT THE ALMIGHTY GOD but a vessel that GOD uses for HIS purpose(s).

Pls and Pls, ask yourself this question; why would I keep praying to God through Jesus when i know that Jesus is God? Why not just go to God direct. Why would Jesus ask me to pray through him to God when he knew he is that God? Does that make sense to you?  Well, it doesn't have to make sense (as some of you would argue), just as the holy spirit cannot be understood by every body? God is not an author of confusion, people!

noetic17:

There is no Jesus in the koran. what they have there is a figment of mohammed's imagination. What they have is another Jesus who offered no salvation or redemption to mankind.

It beats me that a billion muslims would be tormented by such a lying spirit called allah. It pays to know and serve God.

chakula:

@niyi53, your preceded post is contrary with Islam teaching because surely jesus would be back, so if you are Muslim in heart please quickly repeant.