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Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by adecz: 5:24pm On Feb 16, 2018
The man has nothing to show,
so he is going up & fown, recommissioning
GEJ's failed, white elephant projects.

One clueless leader following another
clueless one.

We are really in trouble in this country..

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Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by Daliano(m): 5:24pm On Feb 16, 2018
Wesporting:
as foolish as your question
Alright.. That's good to know.
Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by Nobody: 5:25pm On Feb 16, 2018
Whether GEJ developed a prototype or plastic is not the issue. Under GEJ the airforce developed THE FIRST EVER Drone that flew called GULMA from another call AMEBO.

Tsaigumi is technically NOT the first indigenous Drone, but maybe the first indigenous model to be deployable in combat. TSAIGUMI may have been technically a step further than Gulma but its not the first. Simple. APC should not stretch the facts and PDP should not bend it also.

The Air force is the winner here. Their tenacity and continuity in weapons development over the years is very commendable. I commend the Air force for maintaining the development tempo, GEJ for starting the project and PMB for giving the necessary support. I hope Ichoku comes on board soon so that we would not depend on the Chinese for drones.

Here is the video of GULMA test flight 5 years ago


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX1L_AxHXXw

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Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by Daliano(m): 5:25pm On Feb 16, 2018
Wesporting:
as foolish as your question
Alright.. That's good to know.
Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by Godswillu(m): 5:30pm On Feb 16, 2018
sanpipita:


The one GEJ commissioned flew, I just posted the video.


Do not misunderstand I saw the video
the question is can a prototype fly?
If yes , why is it called a prototype
Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by salisb(m): 5:31pm On Feb 16, 2018
God will continue to bless the best President General Muh'du Buhari. Sai Baba 2019.
Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by deomelllo: 5:34pm On Feb 16, 2018
obynzo:

But why would there be so much fan fare for a prototype? In Engineering design a prototype is used for testing and modification before rolling out the real thing. The statement by the NAF was just to save face. Because if you go to youtube and check GULMA you would see the control room that was used for the test and also the aircraft itself. I wonder if all that gadgets was all for a prototype, and i know for sure that drone(GULMA) was deployed in combat against boko haram when jonathan postponed the election.



Since you know for sure, you should be able to show us proof per the toy drone fighting BH.
Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by deomelllo: 5:44pm On Feb 16, 2018
sanpipita:


Issue here isnt buhari commissioning a drone but the lies its Nigeria's first operational drone, imagine being the engineer that worked on the 2013 own and you wake up to hear this? we can't progress with lies, this is from the Nigeria defence site www.defence.gov.ng/index.php/78-featured/169-nigerian-air-force-uav-unveiled

here is video of 2013 drone being operational
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX1L_AxHXXw



Even a 1 dollar drone can fly and the word OPERATIONAL and able to fly are 2 different things.


OPERATIONAL in this sense means OPERATIONAL in the battlefield.
Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by Lighthouseman: 5:52pm On Feb 16, 2018
This same man who scammed Nigerians with a fake result is doing anything to sound relevant.
A man who stole Obama's speech verbatim, commissioned a project earlier done by Obasanjo and now another done by Goodluck has shown that he can't be trusted.
One day, he will commission Aso rock.

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Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by FarahAideed: 5:58pm On Feb 16, 2018
rka2:
Why are there so many dumb people? The earlier UAVs (Amebo, Gulma) were prototypes while this latest incarnation is the first operational UAV in the NAF.

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=50755:nigerian-air-force-unveils-new-indigenous-uav&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107

Prototype indeed ..so president now commission prototypes in big ceremonies grin grin abeg stop fooling yourself

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Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by FarahAideed: 6:04pm On Feb 16, 2018
Godswillu:



Do not misunderstand I saw the video
the question is can a prototype fly?
If yes , why is it called a prototype

Are you buying into the nonsense prototype lies by the APC ...Do u think a president will you out in an open ceremony to commission a prototype ? Hell no

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Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by sanpipita(m): 6:07pm On Feb 16, 2018
deomelllo:




Even a 1 dollar drone can fly and the word OPERATIONAL and able to fly are 2 different things.


OPERATIONAL in this sense means OPERATIONAL in the battlefield.







I didn't know operational now has a new meaning, has the one commissioned by buhari flown is a battle field yet?

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Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by deomelllo: 6:08pm On Feb 16, 2018
Lighthouseman:
This same man who scammed Nigerians with a fake result is doing anything to sound relevant.
A man who stole Obama's speech verbatim, commissioned a project earlier done by Obasanjo and now another done by Goodluck has shown that he can't be trusted.
One day, he will commission Aso rock.



If you are going to peddle your ignorant ipob lies that PMB and OBJ commissioned the same thing, post pictures of what PMB and OBJ commissioned.
Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by iguita: 6:10pm On Feb 16, 2018
So you had to give them the scope abi? Watch out for this comment on Monday.
desreek9:
By tomorrow or next, they would say the one GEJ commissioned is not Nigerian made but US made brought into the country as the first of its kind so there is a difference, then use PMB's own for campaign in 2019 as part of his achievement.

Get your pvc people, the dullard is all shades of wrong.

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Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by sanpipita(m): 6:10pm On Feb 16, 2018
Godswillu:



Do not misunderstand I saw the video
the question is can a prototype fly?
If yes , why is it called a prototype

Yes a prototype can fly, its called prototype cos future designs and models will come from it, buhari equally commissioned a prototype and here is some fun fact, the drone commissioned by buhari works with diesel while one GEJ launched is remote controlled

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Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by deomelllo: 6:10pm On Feb 16, 2018
sanpipita:


I didn't know operational now has a new meaning, has the one commissioned by buhari flown is a battle field yet?





Of course, operational means in operation via the battlefield.


What PMB commissioned was cleared for operation by the Nigerian Aiforce and the president, so it's ready for battlefield operation and tey commissioned a command unit to go with it.
Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by sanpipita(m): 6:12pm On Feb 16, 2018
FarahAideed:


Are you buying into the nonsense prototype lies by the APC ...Do u think a president will you out in an open ceremony to commission a prototype ? Hell no

BMC at work, they are restless

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Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by sanpipita(m): 6:14pm On Feb 16, 2018
deomelllo:



Of course, operational means in operation via the battlefield.


What PMB commissioned was cleared for operation by the Nigerian Aiforce and the president, so it's ready for battlefield operation

The 2013 drone was equally cleared to by airforce, why being so desperate to twist facts.

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Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by deomelllo: 6:27pm On Feb 16, 2018
sanpipita:


The 2013 drone was equally cleared to by airforce, why being so desperate to twist facts.


Feel free to show us where it was cleared for battlefield operation.
Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by rka2: 6:31pm On Feb 16, 2018
obynzo:

But why would there be so much fan fare for a prototype? In Engineering design a prototype is used for testing and modification before rolling out the real thing. The statement by the NAF was just to save face. Because if you go to youtube and check GULMA you would see the control room that was used for the test and also the aircraft itself. I wonder if all that gadgets was all for a prototype, and i know for sure that drone(GULMA) was deployed in combat against boko haram when jonathan postponed the election.

The Gulma & Amebo were never operational with the NAF. They were just prototypes used for development of the current one. You do know you need control rooms for UAVs apart from handheld mini-drones? The Gulma was never used operationally, it was the Chinese UAVs (CH-3). Show me a report of the Gulma being used for operations? You will only find test videos and demonstrations..
Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by ernieboy(m): 6:32pm On Feb 16, 2018
koladebrainiac:
ITS RECYCLE ITS ALLOWED


Modified


just read through and discovered the Jonathan is the prototype. its non-functional and not made to what this one is already
that something is non functional means it cannot be a prototype, that statement is clear proof that the army spokesman is a novice when it comes to production in engineering. if it was a prototype then it should be functional so u can see the flaws in design and correct them.

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Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by deomelllo: 6:43pm On Feb 16, 2018
Mallam Nasir El-Rufai, the Executive Governor of Kaduna State, said his state was willing and ready to procure the Tsaigumi from the NAF, once available.

Chief of the Air Staff, Air Marshal Sadique Abubakar, said the NAF would develop another UAV, called Ichoku, which would be Nigeria’s first indigenous unmanned combat aerial vehicle (UCAV).

The NAF said the Tsaigumi UAV is a much more advanced and operationally ready version of the earlier Amebo and Gulma prototype UAVs.




The Tsaigumi UAV was produced by NAF aerospace engineers in collaboration with UAVision of Portugal. Capable of day and night operations, it has an operational endurance in excess of 10 hours, a service ceiling of 15 000 feet and a mission radius of 100 km. It has a maximum take-off weight of 95 kg and its payload is an electro-optic/infra-red camera system.

The Nigerian Air Force on 4 October 2016 signed a memorandum of understanding with UAVision regarding the production of UAVs in Nigeria. At the time the NAF said the collaboration would lead to the production of four UAV prototypes with two each produced in Nigeria and Portugal
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Air Vice Marshal Olatokunbo Adesanya, Director of Public Relations and Information of the NAF, said on Thursday the Tsaigumi UAV could be used for many tasks, such as ISR, policing, disaster management, convoy protection, maritime patrol, pipeline and power line monitoring as well as mapping and border patrol duties. In addition, it could be deployed for the protection of wildlife, weather forecast and telecast. Additionally, in the maritime domain, the Tsaigumi UAV could be used for search and rescue, coastal monitoring and patrol of Nigeria’s Exclusive Economic Zone.


After Buhari unveiled the Tsaigumi he also examined other NAF research and development projects, including a Hind helicopter hydraulic accumulator diaphragm, aviation power pack, unmanned ground vehicle and F4 rocket launcher heat shield cone.

Also on display was a mockup/fuselage component of the NAFSA Eagle eight passenger multirole aircraft. The NAF said it was locally designed and is being manufactured at the Air Force Research and Development Centre to fulfil a variety of roles in the NAF.


http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=50755:nigerian-air-force-unveils-new-indigenous-uav&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107

Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by ernieboy(m): 6:43pm On Feb 16, 2018
duni04:
The Air force spokesperson clarified everything so i don't get the confusion! The one Jonathan commissioned was a prototype. It wasn't functional or operational. We never heard any reports of the Air force conducting any air strikes in the North East with a drone during Jonathan's regime.
The one Buhari just commissioned can conduct air strikes and is functional. So what are you dumbasses on nairaland ranting about Buhari again?
which airstrike? that thing on the table will barely manage to keep itself airborne, it is not capable of carrying weapon of any kind at best it may be used for reconnaissance.

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Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by rka2: 6:46pm On Feb 16, 2018
FarahAideed:


Prototype indeed ..so president now commission prototypes in big ceremonies grin grin abeg stop fooling yourself

I am afraid I am not the one being fooled. The Gulma was never commissioned as an operational UAV. Was never used to support troops in the battlefield by the NAF. The new one is going to now be mass produced being the final product.

And for your info I support neither GEJ or PMB, just the NAF.
Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by ernieboy(m): 6:48pm On Feb 16, 2018
sanpipita:


Yes a prototype can fly, its called prototype cos future designs and models will come from it, buhari equally commissioned a prototype and here is some fun fact, the drone commissioned by buhari works with diesel while one GEJ launched is remote controlled
bro all drones are remote controlled hence it is called unmanned aerial vehicle. diesel simply refers to its power source.
Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by sanpipita(m): 6:56pm On Feb 16, 2018
deomelllo:



Feel free to show us where it was cleared for battlefield operation.

www.defence.gov.ng/index.php/78-featured/169-nigerian-air-force-uav-unveiled

Read the AVM Badeh address there, now can you show where the recently commissioned drone was certified operational for battlefield? that's if the clearance isn't same thing

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Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by Maxigoody: 7:07pm On Feb 16, 2018
I have been vindicated.

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Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by EnkayDezign4: 7:09pm On Feb 16, 2018
duni04:
The Air force spokesperson clarified everything so i don't get the confusion! The one Jonathan commissioned was a prototype. It wasn't functional or operational. We never heard any reports of the Air force conducting any air strikes in the North East with a drone during Jonathan's regime.
The one Buhari just commissioned can conduct air strikes and is functional. So what are you dumbasses on nairaland ranting about Buhari again?

Bro forget all these hypocrites, and cowards using anonymity to display their foolishness. If you haven't realized, there is an agenda by some on this forum to keep promoting anti-buhari sentiment.

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Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by deomelllo: 7:14pm On Feb 16, 2018
sanpipita:


www.defence.gov.ng/index.php/78-featured/169-nigerian-air-force-uav-unveiled

Read the AVM Badeh address there, now can you show where the recently commissioned drone was certified operational for battlefield? that's if the clearance isn't same thing



Chief of the Air Staff, Air Marshal Sadique Abubakar, said the NAF would develop another UAV, called Ichoku, which would be Nigeria’s first indigenous unmanned combat aerial vehicle (UCAV).

The NAF said the Tsaigumi UAV is a much more advanced and operationally ready version of the earlier Amebo and Gulma prototype UAVs.


http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=50755:nigerian-air-force-unveils-new-indigenous-uav&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107


Tsaigumi UAV is a much more advanced and operationally ready version of the rubbish jona fooled us with.
Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by Surestdick(m): 7:19pm On Feb 16, 2018
SONofnezzar:
When we say Boharre is a certified dullard...Some people will come here and spew trash
Besides the specs, Tsaigumi is for operational uses while Gulma lacks that capability.
Re: Buhari Commissions Air Force Drone Jonathan ‘Earlier Launched’ - PDP by deomelllo: 7:23pm On Feb 16, 2018
sanpipita:


www.defence.gov.ng/index.php/78-featured/169-nigerian-air-force-uav-unveiled

Read the AVM Badeh address there, now can you show where the recently commissioned drone was certified operational for battlefield? that's if the clearance isn't same thing



Earlier in his welcome address, the Chief of Air Staff, Air Marshal AS Badeh said that the UAV Gulma, could be used for both military and civilian purposes including patrol, surveillance, pipeline and weather monitoring, among others.

He said that the objective of the Nigerian Air Force is to manufacture a self-reliant indigenous equipment which could easily be maintained thereby minimizing huge foreign expenses.

He said that the cost of acquiring the equipment and training the pilots overseas is outrageous.

Air Marshal Badeh said that the UAV Gulma is like other aircraft, but it does not have a pilot nor passenger onboard and is remotely controlled.

The vehicle can take off and land from any suitable leveled ground, using just 12litres of fuel for 7hour flight. It has a surveillance camera that captures and records images from a height of 10,000ft above the ground within a radius of 100kilometers.





From your own link, please show us where Badeh uttered the word certified operational for battlefield?



You need to stop lying.

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