Please, stop perverting the scriptures. The God of the bible does NOT condone SLAVERY as it means today in modern interpretation. Parts of the bible are meant to be an account of a historical event and must not be interpreted using your modern day contexts and interpretation. You must consider the historical context from the ancient biblical times.


Two things to keep in mind: (1) Hebrew/Greek to English (insufficient) Translation & errors, (2) historical and social contexts of the Jewish practices.


A. Language barrier:

1. The original biblical was written in Hebrew and Greek- which means there is a language translation barrier. The word Slavery is a recent modern construct which was NOT the same as the word the original Hebraic language used. The original meaning has been lost in translation to English language. Hebrew was much more complex language than English Language and some words in Hebrew has no direct English translation. Therefore, the English bible we have has lost a lot in translation. The original Hebrew word EBED means a servant or bondman/woman NOT SLAVE as it is understood in modern interpretation.


B. Historical/social context:

2. You must consider the historical and social contexts back then, which is not to be directly compared to our recent and modern society. There is a huge difference between what God allows vs. what God wants. The ancient Jews practiced slavery, it does not mean God told them to practice slavery or even wanted them to. But, because they have free will, they took servants and God allowed them to. But, instead, God also made provisions in Exodus 21 so that servants are not maltreated. And being bought or hired as a servant ("slave" was a way to alleviate poverty and hardships. Therefore, it was actually a form of employment.

C. Servants THEN vs. NOW

Bible is a historical account of people who lived thousands of years ago who had their own social practices such as buying/selling servants. In our modern terms, it is the equivalent of “hiring” servants. What exactly is the difference between paying a servant/maid today? None right? So, it was the same thing back then.

Back then people volunteered themselves to be bought as servants NOT forced as bible is against forced labor (exodus 21:16)
Back then, people being bought as servants was initiated by the servant NOT the master/owner. And it was usually done to escape hardships or poverty.


Today, if you an employee, you are working for an employer, you are a slave. It’s just legal and justified slave. You work for someone else because you need money to tender to yourself and escape poverty. That was how it was in the ancient Israel. No different today.

Jesus is portrayed as a white man, Mary as a white woman, the angels in heaven are all white men, Adam and eve are white couples,amongst the 12 disciples there is not a single black man in sight, what more do you need?

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Who is the white man's God? You seem enslaved to the rumours that God is the white man's God. Who told you? Free yourself from mental slavery and media manipulation.

Cute9gerian:
Jesus is portrayed as a white man, Mary as a white woman, the angels in heaven are all white men, Adam and eve are white couples,amongst the 12 disciples there is not a single black man in sight, what more do you need?

If Jesus is white isn't it obvious that Satan would be white too? What's the complain about

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The Satan I know is mostly portrayed as red with horns or black

danvon:
If Jesus is white isn't it obvious that Satan would be white too? What's the complain about

LOL.


The Bible was written by illiterate archaic cavemen who captured their own whims and caprices as God's directives.

Bible is a fraud. Yahweh is a bigger fraud.

Just like Frederich Nietzsche opined, God created man on the sixth day and on the seventh day, man returned the favor.


God is nothing but a contraption forged by ancient con-men and fashioned after mankind. That's why he suffers from the basal vices of mankind - anger, jealousy, pettiness, murderous tendencies, bias, etc.

Cute9gerian:
The Satan I know is mostly portrayed as red with horns or black

If that's how Satan is people would see him for what he is and he won't be able to deceive anyone

"And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light."
2 Corinthians:11:14

What about the wars declared in his name. And I'm not just talking about Jesus. I'm talking about all organized religion, exclusive groups created to manage control. A dealer getting people hooked on the drug of hope. His followers nothing but addicts who want their hit of bullshit to keep their dopamine of ignorance. Addicts afraid to believe the truth that there is no order, there is no power, that all religions are just metastasizing mind worms so it's easier to divide us, to rule us by the charlatans that want to run us. All we are to them are paying fanboys of their poorly written sci-fi franchise.

Niflheim:
A picture is worth a thousand words!!!

Nice photo I think it tells us that blacks have always and will always be the worst enemies of blacks, See that black guy whipping them off the shore just like our pagan kings sold us to the whites

danvon:
please what is name of God you worship... Trying hard to crack that

I don't worship any God, rather, I study GOD THE EXISTENCE, who through it you, I, your god and everyone came to be.

Xiadnat:
Please, stop perverting the scriptures. The God of the bible does NOT condone SLAVERY as it means today in modern interpretation. Parts of the bible are meant to be an account of a historical event and must not be interpreted using your modern day contexts and interpretation. You must consider the historical context from the ancient biblical times.


Two things to keep in mind: (1) Hebrew/Greek to English (insufficient) Translation & errors, (2) historical and social contexts of the Jewish practices.


A. Language barrier:

1. The original biblical was written in Hebrew and Greek- which means there is a language translation barrier. The word Slavery is a recent modern construct which was NOT the same as the word the original Hebraic language used. The original meaning has been lost in translation to English language. Hebrew was much more complex language than English Language and some words in Hebrew has no direct English translation. Therefore, the English bible we have has lost a lot in translation. The original Hebrew word EBED means a servant or bondman/woman NOT SLAVE as it is understood in modern interpretation.


B. Historical/social context:

2. You must consider the historical and social contexts back then, which is not to be directly compared to our recent and modern society. There is a huge difference between what God allows vs. what God wants. The ancient Jews practiced slavery, it does not mean God told them to practice slavery or even wanted them to. But, because they have free will, they took servants and God allowed them to. But, instead, God also made provisions in Exodus 21 so that servants are not maltreated. And being bought or hired as a servant ("slave" was a way to alleviate poverty and hardships. Therefore, it was actually a form of employment.

C. Servants THEN vs. NOW

Bible is a historical account of people who lived thousands of years ago who had their own social practices such as buying/selling servants. In our modern terms, it is the equivalent of “hiring” servants. What exactly is the difference between paying a servant/maid today? None right? So, it was the same thing back then.

Back then people volunteered themselves to be bought as servants NOT forced as bible is against forced labor (exodus 21:16)
Back then, people being bought as servants was initiated by the servant NOT the master/owner. And it was usually done to escape hardships or poverty.


Today, if you an employee, you are working for an employer, you are a slave. It’s just legal and justified slave. You work for someone else because you need money to tender to yourself and escape poverty. That was how it was in the ancient Israel. No different today.

You Christians don't read your bible at all and only regurgitate apologist bullsheet that'd only make sense to sheeples


Exodus 12:43-45 (NRSV)
43 The Lord said to Moses and Aaron: This is the ordinance for the passover: no foreigner shall eat of it, 44 but any slave who has been purchased may eat of it after he has been circumcised; 45
no bound or hired servant may eat of it.

Leviticus 22:10-11 (NRSV)
10 No lay person shall eat of the sacred donations. No bound or hired servant of the priest shall eat of the sacred donations; 11 but if a priest acquires anyone by purchase, the person may eat of them; and those that are born in his house may eat of his food.


These passages show that there is a difference between someone who is hired, someone who is a bonded servant, and someone who is bought, paid for, and owned. These are laws for priests. If the Bible had a problem with people owning other people, why couldn't it at least ban the priesthood from owning slaves?

Also the below needs to be addressed

Back then people volunteered themselves to be bought as servants NOT forced as bible is against forced labor (exodus 21:16)

"When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies. This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby." - Deuteronomy 20:10-15


I'm sure "Become our slaves so that you can keep your family or die and lose your family to us as war booty" isn't really FORCING

hopefulLandlord:


You Christians don't read your bible at all and only regurgitate apologist bullsheet that'd only make sense to sheeples


Exodus 12:43-45 (NRSV)
43 The Lord said to Moses and Aaron: This is the ordinance for the passover: no foreigner shall eat of it, 44 but any slave who has been purchased may eat of it after he has been circumcised; 45
no bound or hired servant may eat of it.

Leviticus 22:10-11 (NRSV)
10 No lay person shall eat of the sacred donations. No bound or hired servant of the priest shall eat of the sacred donations; 11 but if a priest acquires anyone by purchase, the person may eat of them; and those that are born in his house may eat of his food.


These passages show that there is a difference between someone who is hired, someone who is a bonded servant, and someone who is bought, paid for, and owned. These are laws for priests. If the Bible had a problem with people owning other people, why couldn't it at least ban the priesthood from owning slaves?

Also the below needs to be addressed



"When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies. This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby." - Deuteronomy 20:10-15


I'm sure "Become our slaves so that you can keep your family or die and lose your family to us as war booty" isn't really FORCING

What, other than Divine Mercy, could offer the option of slavery/forced labor to a people who surely deserved death/destruction -- against whom the armies of Israel had been brought for destruction -- because "their iniquity has reached its full measure"(Gen. 15:16)?

We can divide the slavery regulations into those for Israelites and non-Israelites. Israelites could only be indentured servants, not lifetime servants (unless they so preferred their situation with their master that they asked to be lifetime slaves). They were to be freed after 7 years and compensated generously for their time. They were also protected by several laws; they were not chattel. If a man took a female slave for a concubine, she had certain rights and could not simply be discarded.

Non-Israelites could be enslaved for life. However, they also had certain rights, including Sabbath rest in the household of their master. They could not be wantonly mistreated.

But we also have to ask: what would the alternative be? Israelites might be enslaved because of extreme poverty or because of being convicted of a crime. Slavery is not ideal, but it beats starving to death or being executed for a crime. Non-Israelites would be taken as slaves in armed conflict—again, most people would choose slavery to death.

In the New Testament, we must remember that Christians were a small minority. The Roman government had a way of squashing movements that openly called for slave revolts. But Christians had a way of gently subverting the order. Paul addressed slaves as people capable of choosing godly submission in the context of their slavery, but the really subversive part is that he called slave owners to treat their slaves as brothers and sisters in Christ. Really read the letter of Philemon and try to come to a conclusion other than that Paul wants Philemon to free Onesimus. In fact, church history indicates that Philemon did exactly that, and Onesimus became a leader in the early church.

Of course slave-holders quoted the Bible to try to justify their actions, just like wife-beaters might quote the Bible to try to justify their abuse. But that doesn’t mean that it’s a valid reading of Scripture.

Source: http://creation.mobi/does-the-bible-condone-slavery

DoctorAlien:


What, other than Divine Mercy, could offer the option of slavery/forced labor to a people who surely deserved death/destruction -- against whom the armies of Israel had been brought for destruction -- because "their iniquity has reached its full measure"(Gen. 15:16)?

WTF did i just read?

festwiz:
WTF did i just read?

Which part of the post do you not understand?

Are you in anyway trying to justify slavery

DoctorAlien:


What, other than Divine Mercy, could offer the option of slavery/forced labor to a people who surely deserved death/destruction -- against whom the armies of Israel had been brought for destruction -- because "their iniquity has reached its full measure"(Gen. 15:16)?

Cute9gerian:
Jesus is portrayed as a white man, Mary as a white woman, the angels in heaven are all white men, Adam and eve are white couples,amongst the 12 disciples there is not a single black man in sight, what more do you need?

Who told you all these? Free yourself from mental slavery and media manipulation.

hopefulLandlord:


it would be a waste of my originality, after all you're a psychic

That's how slaves think, shackling themselves under the originality of others, thinking theirs is a waste. You can be free from slavery today.

Cute9gerian:
It is you who lack content and originality,atheist,agnostic and free thinkers alike, look at a situation, analyse it and decide its true or not with the possibity of correction,change if a better theory or approach pops up, you and your religious cohorts on the other hand read a single book given to you by a white man, written by primitive men who knew not where the sun went to at night with no direct source or author,no room for correction and decided that every word in such book is infallible.if this is not mental slavery, I wonder what it is.

Kindly punctuate properly/appropriately.i had a hard time making sense of the above.

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That's how slaves think, shackling themselves under the originality of others, thinking theirs is a waste. You can be free from slavery today.

Originality is useless when talking to psychics as they already know everything about you

hopefulLandlord:


Originality is useless when talking to psychics as they already know everything about you

Who told you? BTW, i would not think myself a psychic.

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Who told you? BTW, i would not think myself a psychic.

Then stop acting like one

LMAO, is Christianity the originality of Africans, a borrowed religion from the white man that you enslave yourself in. Only you can free yourself

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That's how slaves think, shackling themselves under the originality of others, thinking theirs is a waste. You can be free from slavery today.

Cute9gerian:
LMAO, is Christianity the originality of Africans, a borrowed religion from the white man that you enslave yourself in. Only you can free yourself

Don't be a nuisance,acting like you know what originality means or implies. Going by your deductions, you should follow through by not speaking English or using a phone so that you can be free. Be wise

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Don't be a nuisance,acting like you know what originality means or implies. Going by your deductions, you should follow through by not speaking English or using a phone so that you can be free. Be wise

It's obvious you have nothing productive to say thereby relying on your last line of hope which is throwing tantrums. Grow up okay, only you can free yourself.

DoctorAlien:


What, other than Divine Mercy, could offer the option of slavery/forced labor to a people who surely deserved death/destruction -- against whom the armies of Israel had been brought for destruction -- because "their iniquity has reached its full measure"(Gen. 15:16)?

are you agreeing with me or disagreeing? cuz if its the latter, I don't see how what you typed disagrees

hopefulLandlord:


are you agreeing with me or disagreeing? cuz if its the latter, I don't see how what you typed disagrees

You forgot to tell me who told you about psychics. Try originality na, I'm truly interested in helping you.

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You forgot to tell me who told you about psychics. Try originality na, I'm truly interested in helping you.

FSM

DoctorAlien:


What, other than Divine Mercy, could offer the option of slavery/forced labor to a people who surely deserved death/destruction -- against whom the armies of Israel had been brought for destruction -- because "their iniquity has reached its full measure"(Gen. 15:16)?

exactly Yahweh supports slavery for captives just like Allah and Mohammed.

apologists now want to claim slavery is like hiring a servant which is bullshit

hopefulLandlord:

FSM

What is FSM?

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What is FSM?

Flying Spaghetti Monster, the one true God that revealed himself in the image of spaghetti and pasta