Ipfreely:


Now we're in more familiar territory. Getting cars registered isn't as easy elsewhere as it is in Nigeria. There are tons of checks. Emissions, etc etc. Roadworthiness in Nigeria is a huge joke, it isn't in North America.

If, after all these repairs chukel alluded to, these vehicles don't pass any of the DMV tests, good luck registering and using that vehicle legally.

chukel:
pls let's not exaggerate these things. Whites buy these cars in their numbers, fix them up and sell at dealerships. They use these cars there a lot. In fact they drive up the prices at auction as a result of their interests and having excess cash cos they don't get to ship and pay custom duty. The campaign is full disclosure.

valarinz:


So, what are you now saying pls??

valarinz:


So, what are you now saying pls??

erico2k2:

There is a reason your car has a salvage tittle, we should stick to it, cars not properly repaired is a moving death trap!
But I know if you fix these cars to factory or road worthy standards, they become far expenssive!
NB, If you decalre your car salvaged but repaired at point of sale, and you intend to sell @ say N4m, I will deff say I would pay N2,5M after inspection.No way will I pay same as a car with a clean bill of health prior shipping to Nigeria!

valarinz:


Ok bro, but from what u just saw, what was I supposed to tag the car ? "Accidented"?

NB : Note there was no structural damage to even the rear chassis that house that bumper, so will that make me to tag my car as accidented cos I change bumper or paint some minor dents on the door?

Note that the genesis of this attack on my personality is that I dared to have a different opinion from the way ericko saw it after his car sales adventure didn't quite work out well and despite all the noises, the only dirt he could pull was a fallen bumper

Waiting..

Explorers:


But there will be history if you're buying such cars from white like you said.

Look at first post, Honda 2014, is that exaggeration?

finni:
What a wonderful exposition!

But note that it is always a two ways thing; by which you want too cheap and you will get too cheap.

We do not compromise at Albert Finni Motors; what you want is what you get.

No hank-panky.

Do a business with us today!

valarinz:


So you're now saying that cos of that bumper I shouldn't sell my car for the price I sold it?? Is that it? Or I should have tagged it "accident car"??

Ipfreely:


Your vehicle was accidented. Your vehicle has a salvage title. An accident is an accident. There are different severity levels but your vehicle was accidented.

Explorers:


Sir, i appreciate your comment, so reasonable.

Am not a car dealer, but i know clean title cars are expensive.

Some clean title 2010 camry on carsforsale.com can go as high as $7,000 - $10,000(that's almost 2.5m - 3m in naira without shipping and clearing), by the time you take it to your stand, you've spent almost 4m naira on just one car without adding your profit/gain.

Who will pay 4m for a muscle camry?

Money will be tied down for months.


Because of this huge cost, some dealers prefer bringing in crashed cars that will be less expensive which is bad as long as the cars are not irreparable.

But sir, what am saying is, if a dealer is bringing in accidented cars, he should let the buyers no about the accident/the history.


I dont know if you'll believe that some dealers will import extremely crashed/flooded/rollover cars with about 300k or more on the odometer.

They will roll back the odo.

They will tag it accident free/clean title with huge price.

Like you said, some crashed cars are expensive and i agree.


But the reason for this thread is why tagging a car accident free/clean title when the car has been badly damaged, rolled over, with deployed airbags, damaged frames and like that.

I dont have any reason to hate anyone, am not not a dealer.

We should just be sincere to ourselves.

chukel:
you get the point. The repairs are standard. But here, the repairs are cosmetic to deceive the buy. Dealers deal with buyers ruthlessly. Stuff cloth in place of airbags, use cheap parts from an entirely different brand just to get car moving. All we need is sincerity.

Explorers:


But there will be history if you're buying such cars from white like you said.

Look at first post, Honda 2014, is that exaggeration?

chronique:



A Camry of $10,000 is roughly 3.6m+ at CBN exchange rate without shipping or clearing. If you add shipping+clearing+ dealer's profit,you are looking at almost 5m naira. Advertise that on Nairaland here,and watch miscreants call you all manner of names. I've bee there before and I know what's up. That being said,I won't dispute the fact that there are greedy dealers. I know someone who shipped in an accidented Highlander years ago and fixed it to resell. When he wanted to bid for it, I told him not to buy it for resale but to buy it and butcher it for parts. He came here and fixed it and spent a lot of money on it,and could barely even sell it well... I agree that people should disclose the history of cars here.

As regards the issue of rolled back mileage, it is ignorance that is killing Nigerians and at such,they become a victim of their over sabi. Do you know that some cars with high mileage on the odometer, usually have their engines changed at around 180k-220k km? When the engine has been changed,the car doesn't start reading from zero. Sometimes, a car with a landing mileage of 350k, might have had the engine changed at 280k. This means the current engine would be on about 70k. Instead of our people to focus on the performance of the car and how sound the engine is,they'd be shouting mileage is too high. Dealers who are desperate to sell,end up rolling back mileage to suit the customer's ignorance. Some rolled back mileages are even done in the US. Imagine a client looking for 2003 corolla with mileage of 80k max,in 2018. The average drive for a car is about 15k miles/yr in the US but some cars do more than that yearly. Multiply 15k by 15 yrs and that gives you 225k miles. But you'd see ignorant over sabi folks,demanding maximum of 80-100k miles. This is why most dealers resort to tricks.

erico2k2:

your 1st paragraph was amazing.

Ipfreely:


Take a hike.

chukel:
yes, there will be history but not in all cases. I won't go to explain that now. Truth is that most of our dealers bring in badly accidented cars. Badly accidented that you think they are imported solely for parts. A trip to Tin can will make u weep. Sometimes out of the greed of dealers they do these things. Some other times out of the unreasonable demand of people. Someone will want a 2010 Venza but he has just 2m. A wicked dealer will just want to take advantage. We have a long way to go in this country. Our values are horrible.

Ipfreely:

chronique:



A Camry of $10,000 is roughly 3.6m+ at CBN exchange rate without shipping or clearing. If you add shipping+clearing+ dealer's profit,you are looking at almost 5m naira. Advertise that on Nairaland here,and watch miscreants call you all manner of names. I've bee there before and I know what's up. That being said,I won't dispute the fact that there are greedy dealers. I know someone who shipped in an accidented Highlander years ago and fixed it to resell. When he wanted to bid for it, I told him not to buy it for resale but to buy it and butcher it for parts. He came here and fixed it and spent a lot of money on it,and could barely even sell it well... I agree that people should disclose the history of cars here.

As regards the issue of rolled back mileage, it is ignorance that is killing Nigerians and at such,they become a victim of their over sabi. Do you know that some cars with high mileage on the odometer, usually have their engines changed at around 180k-220k km? When the engine has been changed,the car doesn't start reading from zero. Sometimes, a car with a landing mileage of 350k, might have had the engine changed at 280k. This means the current engine would be on about 70k. Instead of our people to focus on the performance of the car and how sound the engine is,they'd be shouting mileage is too high. Dealers who are desperate to sell,end up rolling back mileage to suit the customer's ignorance. Some rolled back mileages are even done in the US. Imagine a client looking for 2003 corolla with mileage of 80k max,in 2018. The average drive for a car is about 15k miles/yr in the US but some cars do more than that yearly. Multiply 15k by 15 yrs and that gives you 225k miles. But you'd see ignorant over sabi folks,demanding maximum of 80-100k miles. This is why most dealers resort to tricks.

finni:


Are we fighting...?

Ipfreely:


If the response to ridiculous requests by buyers with little knowledge about auto import business, is to engage in fraudulent and criminal activity to satisfy those silly and unrealistic demands, well I'm sorry to say that that is criminal.

That would be like someone saying that the reason they sell plastic rice is because buyers come and haggle 2000 naira for a bag of good rice.

Logical, perhaps. But very dishonest.

Cosplay:
Y’all should appear immediATELY

Demeanors I see y’all. Slow but steady.

some of us apply diplomacy first,
until the hand is caught in the cookie jar

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GAZZUZZ:


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until the hand is caught in the cookie jar

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