seunH:


Sir, you summarize all what I wanted to say, for a start I'm a 500 level vet medical student and our allowance are also higher, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't give honor to whom honor is due. Sir, I personally have a deep and profound respect for Engineers, sincerely it is not easy. From experience so far, you can survive in medical school (I studied Human Anatomy in my first degree) if you have a photographic memory, maybe have some little glitches in surgery but I doubt if photographic memory can help you in engineering. For example, I was speaking to an engineering student and he was giving me an instance of the nature of their questions. He said in some courses, they just give the questions, NO formula, you would have to think of the appropriate formula to use, derive the formula yourself before finally applying it to solve the question, Sir a dullard cannot do the above rather it takes someone with a high IQ. That is why I will always duff my hat for a 1st class engineering student. Furthermore inasmuch as we need doctors we also need engineers even more (my opinon tho), How? The last time I went to the hospital for treatment without exaggerating was more than 5yrs ago, not that I didn't fall sick but most of us still have an idea of what to do if we fall sick it is only if serious we go to the hospital. But for engineering can you count the amount of times you've visited a mechanic, electrician or even a generator repairer just this year? I'm sure we know the answer. The OP has a lot of valid points up there. But the problem facing their profession is quackery and laziness from the part of their association. If laws can be put in place, for example: ensuring all mechanic workshops are duely registered and licensed and the requirement is at least one B Tech or B Engineering holder incharge of that place, imagine the demand we would see for engineers (especially now that cars are getting advanced by the day). Also for civil engineering, No Building or construction should be approved by the government without showing the list of those who would work on the site, which must include a licensed civil engineer (B Tech or B Engineering). And many more opportunities I believe engineers and engineering students can add. In conclusion if the above is done, the demand for engineers both Nysc and Post Nysc would increase and their dues would be duly paid. Thank you

OSUigbo:

I believe we have more half-baked so-called doctors than engineers.

Engineering is not all about what they teach you in school, it about critical thinking and inventions.

Medical students only learn from what is written in the book by someone (a researcher).
Engineering is INFINITY.

Modern medicine of today is made possible by engineers.

The most notable people that have impacted and shaped life are engineers.

ultron12345:
point of correction, expatriates are brought in because our engineers know nothing, common calculator they can make.

FYI, Nigerian trained doctors are doing excellently abroad. Are u aware d worlda only combined cardiologist and nephrologists had his MBBS at OAU. Show me what Nigerian trained engineers have done.

Stop displaying ur ignorance, in any country, foreign doctors are always examined and subject to further training before been licensed. Even if U.S doctors want to get Nigerian license, he will be made to write council examsand given further training in tropical medicine

Rangojack:
This is a fight NSE and COREN should take up seriously. OP you spoke well jare don't mind your critics.
They should also let Engineering graduates observe their NYSC in Engineering Companies or Science & Technology Research parastatals #IMO

Michael004:
Don't mind them, they will be asking old people about her husband, the number of children she has. If the husband is dead, will be asking you the year he died as if na Wetin won treat the woman be that. They will carry stethoscope on their neck without knowing anything. The thing dey always make me laugh.

ultron12345:
It is jealousy and envy that will kill u.

Firstly, how many years did engineers spend in school pre nysc, just 5 years. Compare it to the number of years doctors spend in school pre nysc, 6 years, plus extra year for housemanship. And don't forget that 5 out of doctors 6 years are continuous, there's no semester break, unlike engineering students that have so many semester breaks and holidays, so by medical school standards, engineers spend less than 3 years in school.

Compare the cost of studying medicine and the cost of studying engineering, they pay higher tuition and their textbooks are d most expensive.

Finally, note that ur pay is based on ur productivity. If nysc engineers were serving in engineering and manufacturing facilities as professional engineers, then maybe their pay can be increased, but since they are working as teachers, then they ought to b paid as teachers. Nysc doctors serve in hospitals, doing their jobs as professional doctors, therefore, they are paid as doctors.


And for saying that doctors are useless without u pple because u made d machines they use, are u aware that u will not be alive today without doctors because sickness and disease for don kill u.

And how dare u compare mth and mee courses with with medical courses, engineering courses are childs play when compared withe medical courses. Seems u haven't seen ANA301 and PTH courses.

OSUigbo:

I believe we have more half-baked so-called doctors than engineers.

Engineering is not all about what they teach you in school, it about critical thinking and inventions.

Medical students only learn from what is written in the book by someone (a researcher).
Engineering is INFINITY.

Modern medicine of today is made possible by engineers.

The most notable people that have impacted and shaped life are engineers.

eleojo23:


Those questions may seem unnecessary to you but they play a part in treatment. Some of the info gathered from those questions influence the treatment.

Treating people is not only about prescribing drugs and opening people up on the operating table.

Meel:
Engineering, Law, Accounting, Medicine are all noble profession.


An entry level salary for a graduate of Engineering in oil coys goes as high as 200000. Like someone said it depends on productivity. Some doctors are being paid 30000#( corp in state owned primary health care) while some are being paid #50000 ( tertiary hospital corp)..

Pay always differ base on what you offer to the society and how much your organization can pay.


Engineering is cool, but engr are not given the opportunity to showcase there self.

MonPro:
Why is that in every campus where there are engineering students the level of crime in that area is usually very high but campuses where Med, Nursing, Pharmacy, Med lab, Physiotherapy study there is virtually no incidence of crime?

Why is that more engineering students are cultists compared those in Faculty of health sciences?


There is a reason why students in Engineering are segregated from students in the Faculty of health sciences in different campuses.

eleojo23:


Those questions may seem unnecessary to you but they play a part in treatment. Some of the info gathered from those questions influence the treatment.

Treating people is not only about prescribing drugs and opening people up on the operating table.

Ximenez:
It's part of the work, you have to get close to your patient and be sympathetic, make him or her feel comfortable with you.

It's part of the first thing a Medical student will be taught in part 4, which is the first Clinical year under Clinical Methods.

UDIOK:
Please do you know what? kindly go back to your dictionary this time check line by line the meaning of engineering and their job descriptions....Nigerian engineers don't do anything but they design hospitals resolve the forces acting on member frames that make up the building, built the premises which you use, bros most of the equipment's you use here are done by Nigerians engineers, if you have no idea consult your employer, well am so busy to engage you with arguments but if you insist just find your way to Fabrication yard your eyes will deceive you on what Nigerians engineers can do........In Medicine what you learn is what you do till thy kingdom come but in Engineering Technology fades and new ones emerges ok we study a lot here..u can glance through the pix to see what we do to raised money for your country through oil facilities, we are talking about value added chain, the money doctors produce is for their pocket but we produce for the economy of the country.....mind you all what you saw here was carried out by Local content......No expatriate......wink

Harbidexy5:



Wow see stupid mentality that should be addressed. What Is there In medicine that yo re shouting,is it to cram and put down all the shiit
Have crammed or wht is special in theoretical courses
Yo spend all yo years reading and cramming what has been put down by someone without subjected to critical thinking and evaluation
Yo make use of book as if yo life depend on it because yo yoself don't even understand what it contains

eleojo23:


Those questions may seem unnecessary to you but they play a part in treatment. Some of the info gathered from those questions influence the treatment.

Treating people is not only about prescribing drugs and opening people up on the operating table.

sweetgala:




You have hit the nail on the head. I'm a mechanical engineer thou I was not trained in Nigeria the principles are same.

In engineering it's either you pass and do well in your exams or you fail. The answer is either correct or wrong if your follow the process.

I can remember my 3rd year maths which required a minimum B grade to progress to the next year irrespective of how well in my other subjects, I failed it (C grade) inemester exams and took a repeat august and got A the difference was I went over the course work and came to understand the principles in detail so I could apply it at will. We are talking over 20 answer pages I used in that exam and I got all questions correct.

Anyone who says engineering technicals are minor is foolish to say the least.

My final year thesis was on biomedical engineering I did a research on spinal deformity correction using pedicle screws. It was grueling and I had to read hundreds of medical journals and the project was supported by a respected surgeon a friend did a PhD in same field.

The engineering industry in Nigeria is not protected, Chinese and Indian firms even local companies are bringing foreign technicians with Diploma to manage BSc holders some of these technicians themselves have minimal experience, the government need to make it mandatory that all companies operating in Nigeria must invest in training of local engineers for project management positions.

Michael004:
Tell me how it is part of the treatment. The number of children will determine the type of treatment or what? It is like mechanic asking you when you buy your car, which places you take it to before repairing it for you.

seunH:

20 PAGES ANSWER !!!!!! Waow. Respect to your profession

ultron12345:


Upon all d so called analysis u do, yet u nigerian engineers cannot make anything, so incompetent that we have to import technicians from India and China for most engineering work. Common toothpick, we import, cos our engineers have failed us.....

Like I said before, since Nigerians have seen u pple worthy only to working schools, teaching during nysc, then u will continue to b paid like teachers during nysc.

I will not waste my time arguing with u.....................but deep within u, u know medicine trumps engineering

UDIOK:
Please do you know what? kindly go back to your dictionary this time check line by line the meaning of engineering and their job descriptions....Nigerian engineers don't do anything but they design hospitals resolve the forces acting on member frames that make up the building, built the premises which you use, bros most of the equipment's you use here are done by Nigerians engineers, if you have no idea consult your employer, well am so busy to engage you with arguments but if you insist just find your way to Fabrication yard your eyes will deceive you on what Nigerians engineers can do........In Medicine what you learn is what you do till thy kingdom come but in Engineering Technology fades and new ones emerges ok we study a lot here..u can glance through the pix to see what we do to raised money for your country through oil facilities, we are talking about value added chain, the money doctors produce is for their pocket but we produce for the economy of the country.....mind you all what you saw here was carried out by Local content......No expatriate......wink

ultron12345:
illiteracy is indeed a disease

sweetgala:


Engineering maths is not easy it was 5 questions a 3:30 hr exam; given a matrix questions could gulp 5 pages easy if you want to be neat and methodological.
Sincerely that particular exam I went all out to prove I could do it. I literarily sat down over 3 weeks and became an expert on maths I don't know how the lecturer didn't accuse me of cheating I blazed that exam

Michael004:
Explain how it is part of treatment.

seunH:

I even heard you guys are doing a course called " Abstract Algebra " and" Advanced partial fraction ". So the normal Mat 101 Partial fraction never finish I was also told that Integration and Differentiation that showed us pepper in Mat 102 is just one of the tools you would use to solve bigger equations.....!!!

seunH:

I even heard you guys are doing a course called " Abstract Algebra " and" Advanced partial fraction ". So the normal Mat 101 Partial fraction never finish I was also told that Integration and Differentiation that showed us pepper in Mat 102 is just one of the tools you would use to solve bigger equations.....!!!