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Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by Nobody: 2:11pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
Harbidexy5: Never compare engineering to pharmacy or medicine , even biochemistry is harder than most engineering courses |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by SoldierBoy1(m): 2:13pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
Feraz:Some Lecturers dey make pesin hate some kind courses I swear .... One day I pray our profession in this country would enjoy what our counterparts in the world are enjoying. |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by Nobody: 2:14pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
GiantParrot: +100000 |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by Nobody: 2:24pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
greypencils:Absolutely correct |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by Sanctecosma(m): 2:34pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
ultron12345: ...Medical students' texbook are very expensive... My be. But that doesn't mean other disciplines have no expensive texbooks. If u need a memo, come to Petroleum engineering Domain. Unless u're well-off (as Pet Engr student) and asides having soft copies either on ur phone aar lappy,you can hardly afford such textbooks which are mostly authored by foreign professors and engineers. 1 Like |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by damlawrence101: 2:36pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
I am a business man and I think I get more money dan u guys at d end of the month |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by bukqar(m): 2:48pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
thats true about the talk is there any course in the world difficult and better than engineering. the world it self is made up from engineering what is so special about the MEDCINE AND PHAMACY FOR CRYING OUT LOUD PLS.TO BE FRANK THIS IS PARTIALITY ENGINEERING REMAIN THE BEST EVER IN FACE OF HTE WORLD COS WITHOUT ENGINEERS MEDCINE AND ANY OTHER COURSE WILL NEVER DO THEIRE WORK |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by uuzba(m): 2:52pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
ultron12345: There is a man called Innoson. He is producing... But others are still importing. You are placing a very unfair competitive advantage against him. A car is made up of thousands of pieces and sub components. Many industries come together to produce each of these. Paints, Seats, Glass, Body, Welding, Chassis, Rubber tires, Ceramic brake pads... Mr Innoson cannot produce everything today-today. Rather than patronize him, you are purchasing 2018 Range Rover. You are not even investing in his company. You are not even producing leather for him to use to make different type of car seats. - We in Africa are highly entertained by flashy gimmicks and gadgets. The early whitemen exchanged umbrellas and mirrors to our forefathers and collected slaves in return. - When the government gives out foreign exchange $$$ to importers, rather than the importers bringing in equipment that can be used for production of goods and services, the importers sell the foreign exchange to mallams. Mallams sell it to bureau de change. Bureau De Change sell it to Mrs Ojiaku who uses it to pay for her daugters school fees in London, travel to nondon and eat meatpie. (Are you Mrs Ojiaku?). The rest of the Foreign exchange is used by the importers to bring in every other finished goods you see. Microwaves, freezers, fans, shoe... iphone..cars. - When engineers are sent to industries, or apply to Nigerian Industries to work, what they meet is non functional industries. No light, broken down equipment and an Oga who does not care any more about the industry. - Tell me, is it the job of the new recruit to revive the industry that employed him? If the new recruit even has any money at all, he uses it to survive. _ I heard of an industry that was producing doors. Good wooden doors. They sold it at N40,000. This was sufficient to pay salaries and keep the Generator running.(ZERO NEPA). Importers brought in these flat rubbish Chinese doors at the cost of N20,000. The Nigerian guy could not produce any more. He closed shop. There was nothing wrong with his doors. But YOU the consumer stopped buying it and chose the Chinese one BECAUSE your EYES SAW IT. |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by Aizenosa1000(m): 3:03pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
After reading through this thread with lots of laughter and tears, I as a mechanical engineer, I have had the privilege of carrying out so many detailed designs and installation of turn key systems here in Nigeria, even while I was a corper. Yes, the medical profession both inside and outside Nigeria is tough but the toughness of medical profession is dwarfed by the mention of the engineering profession, but still I have to really give it to the medical profession that without them the world will be a sick infested place littered with bodies all around. Back in school I had the privilege of having medical students and doctors as friends. Medical students complain that medicine is hard because they have to read and read all over which is termed hard and compulsory because continually reading helps you to absorb what you are reading, now as an engineer the case is different you have to read and study and after that you have to apply what you read, it can be so frustrating because 1st you are being taught by a half baked engineering lecturer who doesn't fully grasp what he is learning then you have to go the extra mile to read and understand what you taught and it can get discouraging because sometimes you can't seem to grasp what you are reading at the end you must get graded. In developed countries professionals of both professions from Nigeria here have made names which shows how well both professions have actively prepared their minds to excel spite of the challenges. Overall I don't think that either is greater of the 2 profession both utility the brain in their own unique way. Overall I believe that the engineering profession is much more labouring and tasking than the medical profession, examples include, construction of a huge project, the engineer can be on field for close to 5 years having slight breaks left and right, even more worse if you are the engineering project manager because not only do you oversee all engineering works, you are held accountable for everything that happens. a medical professional in Nigeria is awarded his professional title after 7-9 years here in Nigeria but not so for the engineer, for an engineer you have to have completed 5 years in an institution, and another 4 years working under the supervision of an engineer after which you deliver a project or a problem you have solved which will be scrutinized by the NSE before you can be officially awarded the engineering title, and still to be able to execute any project in Nigeria you must be registered under coren which is another 0-4 years again depending on how good a project you have done and can submit. From this I believe you can infer that the engineering profession is not beans in this country. 1 Like |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by yusman14(m): 3:07pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
neoapocalypse:...lol..u.funy oo everybody knw dat engr is d hardest course....even guiness book.of record |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by Aizenosa1000(m): 3:11pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
Engineering courses records higher suicide rates than any other course |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by ultron12345: 3:13pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
Sanctecosma:what are u try to prove, do u think medical textbook are authored by nigerians. |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by yusman14(m): 3:13pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
asuustrike2009:....can an engineer b posted 2 oil company/ |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by ultron12345: 3:14pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
AK481:mtcheeeeeeeeeeew.......b blaming others 4 ur incompetency |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by harsol(m): 3:19pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
You perhaps would have raised a good point of you don't make it personal, rendering your thread pointless. You initially directed your energy against the medical health personnels and shaded other graduates. Nobody attains height through mediocrity but hard work. I will advice you stay focused and channel your energy towards the right path so you can make something of yourself. There's more to life after NYSC. |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by GentlemanAyo(m): 3:19pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
neoapocalypse: Never say this again, it makes you sound stupid. |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by GentlemanAyo(m): 3:32pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
ultron12345: Never grow old with this your mentality, it will have an adverse effect on you and the family you will build if you don't have one yet. Engineering courses are childs play? It is obvious you know nothing about engineering and it is best you keep to what you know than saying things that will make you sound stupid. Ask an Engineer in your family about his/her experience in school and you will be shocked by his/her testimony. Mind you I never had a break starting from 200level, every semester break was used for industrial training. You just have to be intelligent before you can graduate as an Engineer, go to engineering faculties to know what is happening. I don't blame the likes of you who talk rubbish about engineers, I blame our forefathers who never had the foresight for the future engineers. Travel abroad to see how engineers are treated like eggs. |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by Exciton(m): 3:38pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
Doctors and engineers saying crap about each other when they ought to be on the same side to fight against the elite --- those in government and in business: mostly comprised of stark illiterates, greedy bankers and lawyers --- who ruin the country for their personal gain: a focus on short term profits and monopoly. The greatest reason why we're poor and underdeveloped is as a result of our extremely weak educational system and manufacturing industry --- a paucity of knowledgable teachers, skilled engineers, scientists and craftsmen. We should be focused on forcing our useless government to ensure education reforms, bringing in more manufacturing giants, encourage indigenous companies, healthy economic competition and creating a strong link between educational institutions, research institutes and the manufacturing industry. If those with the potential to make stuff are given the proper education, we wouldn't be in our current situation where there's basically no equipment for our doctors to diagnose/treat the sick. 2 Likes |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by ultron12345: 3:41pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
GentlemanAyo:medicine nko.............ask any doctor in ur family and you will b shocked by his/her testimony |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by GentlemanAyo(m): 3:48pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
ultron12345: Oh yes I have them a lot with 3 of them in my nuclear family, the last is in her fifth year in medical school. There is nothing to shock me again because I know all that goes down in medical school but you seem to not have a glimpse of anything engineering, go and ask questions and you will have a rethink of the things you said earlier. |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by yusman14(m): 3:51pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
Unclerukus:....is it a must for all engineers to b an inventor?i need ur answer pls..n |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by Nobody: 3:55pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
GentlemanAyo:And you sound uninformed and grossly ignorant |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by GentlemanAyo(m): 4:01pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
neoapocalypse: Uninformed and grossly ignorant? You just described yourself. If you are not uniformed and grossly ignorant, you won't say that rubbish you posted above. Doctors are intelligent people, they don't make meaningless comparison because they know better. Are you sure you are one of them? Or you are just some basic medical science individual. |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by salaamtaiwo(m): 4:22pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
Point well articulated but am afraid you got it all wrong. The idea behind the post was never to rubbish the field of medicine or pharmacy but to agitate for a change in government policy. I was expecting you to tell me a single nation that developed by neglecting her engineering field, but you didn't do that but rather you are misguiding your view and notion. The post never says medicine and pharmacist doesn't deserve that huge pay, sincerely speaking you did deserve it but does that spare an engineering students from such benefits? I gave an analysis on how China developed and you will agree with me that they developed when technology is fast advancing. So how do they became a fearful force to reckon with and to fear by the great U.S? Is there any true development without technology? Is there any technology without engineering design? These are the fundamental questions to be answered by whomsoever that wish to refute the original post. What was the driven force of European development? What characterized the first, second and modern revolution? What was the result of embarking on such revolution? Can any African nation match up with those countries in technology? Where did Africans get it wrong at first? International technology transfer (ITT) policy embraced by Africa cannot help us develop because it represent the continuation of the industrial enslavement of Africa since most of the equipment are made overseas and shipped to Africa. Any government that spend heavily on ITT is just investing on depreciating assets which depreciates with time until it get to its scrap value after which another one would be obtained. True development is geared toward "industrialization" and never ITT. If any government tell you about foreign investors coming to establish company in your country, or advising his people to be self employed, or becoming an entrepreneur, then such nation is a joke and such government is a mediocre because no nation developed through that method. A mediocre work force can never have necessary capability and relevance. They are mediocre and they must behave like one. Ever since this country has been in existence, we have been ruled by group of mediocre without excluding anyone including the present one ruling us. What best can you make out of mediocrity driven policy? We need to redefine our steps. The field of study that catalyses "true development" is science and engineering. ultron12345: |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by okey777(m): 4:23pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
ultron12345:The guy is just wailing, he has no idea about Medicine |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by jargo89(m): 4:23pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
Michael004:And you couldnt get that from my response. Then you have your own agenda. *The number of children helps in diagnosis of what kinda of breast lump a lady has. Multiparous women (women with more than one child) are less prone to breast cancer than a lady who hasnt given birth. Every question a doctor asks is to aid his diagnosis. You keep shouting treatment. How would a doctor treat you if he doznt knw wats wrong with u? The questions help him/her make a provisional diagnosis which he can confirm with investigations like Cytology, MRI etc. I think you should spend better tym getting info rather than trying to put others down. Download the book i refered to u and enlighten yourself. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by okey777(m): 4:25pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
Harbidexy5:Bro u av no knowledge about medicine, no point ranting |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by salaamtaiwo(m): 4:49pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
oh brother let me also shock you with respect to that. Tetrapak is a Swedish company and they have mastered that technology such that for the installation, maintenance and repairing, there is a need to send people to overseas for training on that. The fault is not from the various engineers you have in your company but it is largely the fault of the government who never did anything on giving the science and technology students the needed relevant practical skills and relevant production skills. Trust me, mastering of processing and production is achieved in the practical environment and never in the tertiary institution practical. Therefore, relevant practical skills can be gotten not in the university or polytechnic but in the industry and that would in turn improve the production skills and makes each graduate relevant. I also worked inFanmilk Eleyele Ibadan for six month as IT students and the same is true with what you said about their inability to repair it. ultron12345: |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by salaamtaiwo(m): 4:53pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
oh brother let me also shock you with respect to that. Tetrapak is a Swedish company and they have mastered that technology such that for the installation, maintenance and repairing, there is a need to send people to overseas for training on that. The fault is not from the various engineers you have in your company but it is largely the fault of the government who never did anything on giving the science and technology students the needed relevant practical skills and relevant production skills. Trust me, mastering of processing and production is achieved in the practical environment and never in the tertiary institution practical. Therefore, relevant practical skills can be gotten not in the university or polytechnic but in the industry and that would in turn improve the production skills and makes each graduate relevant. I also worked inFanmilk Eleyele Ibadan for six month as IT students and the same is true with what you said about their inability to repair it. |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by introvertme: 5:34pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
magicminister: pls what do you do? |
Re: Injustice For Engineering Graduates, Corpers by Hardey10(m): 6:08pm On Mar 08, 2018 |
blackbeau1:that's for residency abi now housemanship which is before service and which u get paid for |
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