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Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by izzou(m): 9:23am On Mar 23, 2018
IamaNigerianGuy:


He is not correct at all and that is the message from Bill Gates.
No time for ass licking

I used the phrase "to an extent"

Yes, he was correct. Nigeria cannot afford to invest more in Human capital.

We cannot afford it. Bill Gates meant well and is correct about that, but we don't have that structure yet

Always learn to understand what both parties are saying before you dive into conclusions.

Because it's from Bill Gates doesn't mean it must be absolutely correct and practicable
Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by 0monnak0da: 9:26am On Mar 23, 2018
waveman2:

You just answered yourself. If we don't, t know how to think then there is something seriously wrong with the black man. How many people would you see read and do researches in this country. Be objective and Don, t insult u sound d intelligent but also rude. But anyway good bless u for ur comment and I hope people can learn.

Do not piggy back off my comment to vent your preconceived ideas.

Logically let us assume that the problem could be "blackness" as a possibility. Is that the ONLY possibilty. Howdo we research that point since you are a champion of research? Are all Non Black countries doing great?
That people do not read and do reasearches(as you claim) in NIGERIA proves there is a problem with black people.? In China in the 50s there was starvation in the land because of bad government. At some point babies were stolen killed and sold as "rabbit" etc . Today less than 100 years later China is the number two economy why? Did they become less Chinese than they were in the 50s?
It is either you have not studied history or you do not like to think.

There are intrinsic problems with our practices that can change however there are also external forces that limit us and indeed the artiificial creation of Nigeria by colonialists meant that we were not allowed to resolve by ourselves problems that others have resolved by themseles.

World War 2 was less than 100 years ago. Women only started voting 100 years ago in the UK.

Our problem comes down to choices to the extent that we are in control though we are not fully in control. We make bad choices just like an individual makes a bad choice for example to use drugs and pays dearly for it.

Knowledge and enligtenment have ,historically, had geographical locus which have engendered the spread of ideas and technology.

Consider that literacy and even Geometry was in Greece 2500 years ago at a time when the Germans were living in caves as were the English.

When did we embrace literacy. These are accidents of History and geography but we have been cut off from the trade in ideas and innovatin by the Sahara for millinenia and that has slowed us down.Still we will get to the top I am supremely confident. It is not supposed to be easy. It was not easy for others either

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Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by plerry: 9:30am On Mar 23, 2018
when the biggest and the most successful business man in the world tells you something is not gonna work you had better go back to your drawing table because it is likely to fail woefully... the problem we have is that our politicians know next to nothing and still remain unteachable
Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by IamaNigerianGuy(m): 9:32am On Mar 23, 2018
izzou:


I used the phrase "to an extent"

Yes, he was correct. Nigeria cannot afford to invest more in Human capital.

We cannot afford it. Bill Gates meant well and is correct about that, but we don't have that structure yet

Always learn to understand what both parties are saying before you dive into conclusions.

Because it's from Bill Gates doesn't mean it must be absolutely correct and practicable

We cannot afford to invest in human capital but we can pay legislators, pay Governors, siphon money via phantom contracts, spend money on hajj , build mosques with government money, send people for pilgrimage, treat Buhari and his family for free, pay Boko Haram ransom, maintain four planes on the presidential​ fleet, pay estacode for government officials, build statues with government money....

You obviously don't know how much money is lost in Nigeria to corruption.

And fyi : Bill Gates is the most prominent person to send this message, not the first.
Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by Statesmann(m): 9:35am On Mar 23, 2018
fk001:
Yesterday i was really astonished when i saw some deluded fools commending Bill gates while castigating PMB and his administration...



For God sake Bill gate is a human being just like everyone of us, so just because he is world number one (not any more) you expect him to know everything pertaining economic? when did he last visited Nigeria for him to know our economy policy is not moving the way it should be?.


PMB also has his own flaws but he can make it right come 2019



And finally




PMB till 2023
Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by misano(m): 9:42am On Mar 23, 2018
fk001:
Yesterday i was really astonished when i saw some deluded fools commending Bill gates while castigating PMB and his administration...



For God sake Bill gate is a human being just like everyone of us, so just because he is world number one (not any more) you expect him to know everything pertaining economic? when did he last visited Nigeria for him to know our economy policy is not moving the way it should be?.


PMB also has his own flaws but he can make it right come 2019



And finally




PMB till 2023



Bill Gate talks... the US president listens. Bill Gate talks to Nigerians one short man & ass lickers they object.
Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by Nobody: 9:43am On Mar 23, 2018
deomelo:



Is BG God.

Igbos and kolo mentally
.

Mumu. Is Bill Gate IPOB?
Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by 0monnak0da: 9:45am On Mar 23, 2018
izzou:


I used the phrase "to an extent"

Yes, he was correct. Nigeria cannot afford to invest more in Human capital.

We cannot afford it. Bill Gates meant well and is correct about that, but we don't have that structure yet

Always learn to understand what both parties are saying before you dive into conclusions.

Because it's from Bill Gates doesn't mean it must be absolutely correct and practicable
Often it is said if you think Education is costly try ignorance

The truth is we cannot Afford Not to invest in Human . At its most basic Humn capital refers to children who are well nourished with clean water and basic sanitation whose mothers do not die at child birth and who grow up without avoidable disease and disability so they can contribute econoically
The Economc out put of the average Nigerian is less than $6000 a year i.e number 120 in the world

Indeed we are already paying the price of not doing so as evidenced by the level of violent crime in our country.
We do actually budget for human capital investment already but how effective is that. We have so many ministries duplicated unnecessarily at the Federal level. Of particular interest are health and Education> So I firmly believe that if we restructured and devolved power a lot would change though the North would struggle

Education in Nigeria should not just be about schools but apprenticeships that lead to jobs. In the North the vast majority of women are econoically unproductive relatively.
We need crucially to educate our people in entrepreneurship and particlarly the use of companies as a vehicle for business.
How many Nigerian created businesses do we have that are not one-man shows and which is the oldest. This situation is why such a basic business like Shoprite is Not Nigerian

It would be intersting to look at what we pay expatriates in the oil industry.

What Bill Gates is saying is nothing new. We have had this debate with the likes of Fashola and Tinubu in Lagos for ever.

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Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by obailala(m): 9:48am On Mar 23, 2018
Obinwenite:
You better wake up.....nothing is working in Nigeria, and gov Elrufia is here playing politics .Everything is not politics ,things are fast deteriorating wake up Mr gov .
So what is your suggested solution to the problem sir?.... Gates made a statement, Rufai faulted Mr Gates and corrected the statement. But you instantly faulted Rufai and automatically assumed Mr Gates must be 100% right? Could it be because he isnt Nigerian or cos he's white?... How exactly does Rufai's statement amount to playing politics?

Rufai has simply said the EPRG isnt the problem as Gates pointed, but rather, the implementation at the state level which is where most of the human development really should take place. In my opinion, that makes sense but you simply just dismissed it without giving it a thought.

Nigeria needs physical capital development as much as it needs development in human capital, and it is almost impossible to develop human capital without firstly putting certain basic physical things in place. For a moment, just imagine, how can you develop anything in a country when a most basic physical issue like power supply or access roads hasnt been sorted? There's a reason why every FG in Nigeria since 1999 has focused mainly on physical capital (even though implementation has always been poor). In summary, just like someone mentioned above, Gates means well, but he certainly doesnt understand the peculiarities of Nigeria, he doesnt understand the extent of rot in our physical infrastructure.

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Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by 0monnak0da: 10:00am On Mar 23, 2018
obailala:
So what is the solution to the problem?.... Gates made a statement, Rufai faulted Mr Gates and corrected the statement. How exactly does that amount to playing politics?... Do you automatically assume Mr Gates must be 100% right because he isnt Nigerian or cos he's white?

Rufai has simply said the EPRG isnt the problem as Gates pointed, but rather, the implementation at the state level which is where most of the human development really should take place. In my opinion, that makes sense but you simply just dismissed it without giving it a thought.
I think people are politicizing what Bill Gates said for their own ends . He has not said anything new.
I will give a simple example. It has been claimed severally that during a recession you spend to reflate the econnomy.

Theoretically this sounds good .When you consider soe of the projects funded by Chinese money you realize that the money or most of it NEVER ENTERS Nigeria and so cannot reflate anything. It goes to buy steel fro China which is brought over in Chinese Ships and installed by Chinese Engineers and technicians. There are no Skill transfer clauses in the contract. The Machines and equiment uses all commes from China as do the trucks and much more. I am sure that none of those Chines workers pays tax in Nigeria. Often after completion the econoic viabilty of the project itself is doubtful. A good example is the Kaduna-Abuja Rail. Is it making money?

The issue of Bill Gates being white is simply churlish. Without seeing a quote fro him I will not comment. But we need to invest not just in infrastructure but also in human capital and people have criticised the governent for the allocatocation to health and edcation long before Bill Gates. ASUU did talk about the education allocation and I am sure there is a thread about that on Nairaland.So Bill Gates has said nothing new

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Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by 0monnak0da: 10:01am On Mar 23, 2018
Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by izzou(m): 10:01am On Mar 23, 2018
IamaNigerianGuy:


We cannot afford to invest in human capital but we can pay legislators, pay Governors, siphon money via phantom contracts, spend money on hajj , build mosques with government money, send people for pilgrimage, treat Buhari and his family for free, pay Boko Haram ransom, maintain four planes on the presidential​ fleet, pay estacode for government officials, build statues with government money....

You obviously don't know how much money is lost in Nigeria to corruption.

And fyi : Bill Gates is the most prominent person to send this message, not the first.

The bolder is part of the reasons we can't afford it.

Like I said, Bill Gates is right, and your above statement confirms otherwise too
Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by izzou(m): 10:05am On Mar 23, 2018
obailala:
So what is your suggested solution to the problem sir?.... Gates made a statement, Rufai faulted Mr Gates and corrected the statement. But you instantly faulted Rufai and automatically assumed Mr Gates must be 100% right? Could it be because he isnt Nigerian or cos he's white?... How exactly does Rufai's statement amount to playing politics?

Rufai has simply said the EPRG isnt the problem as Gates pointed, but rather, the implementation at the state level which is where most of the human development really should take place. In my opinion, that makes sense but you simply just dismissed it without giving it a thought.

Nigeria needs physical capital development as much as it needs development in human capital, and it is almost impossible to develop human capital without firstly putting certain basic physical things in place. For a moment, just imagine, how can you develop anything in a country when a most basic physical issue like power supply or access roads hasnt been sorted? There's a reason why every FG in Nigeria since 1999 has focused mainly on physical capital (even though implementation has always been poor). In summary, just like someone mentioned above, Gates means well, but he certainly doesnt understand the peculiarities of Nigeria, he doesnt understand the extent of rot in our physical infrastructure.

God bless you bro

I don't even like Buhari or his party but truth be told, El Rufai was right

We can't afford to invest in human capital at this stage. I just don't understand why they are bashing El rufai

Maybe because Bill Gates said it
Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by Worksunlimited: 10:06am On Mar 23, 2018
This is one of the reasons why Bill Gates is one of the top 3 richest in the WORLD.. He doesn't sugar coat a lie to sound like the truth..

Nigeria's economic policy is worse than a failure, how can an economic policy shoot up the exchange rate to over 200% and stays that way for a solid 3yrs..

How do you expect people that were struggling to eat 3 square meals, prior to Buhari's emergence as president, now survive?

How can an economic policy continue to make a few people richer instead of an equitable distribution of wealth..

Economic policy that hasn't changed the minimum wage, to cushion the effect of an increase in price of goods and services on it's people..

Even people that were shouting sai baba at the beginning, no longer have the energy to shout any thing anymore cos there is hunger in the land..

El-rufai should do us all a favor and shut up.. Someone that has issues fixing his own state, wants to fix Nigeria.. he can't even do teachers recruitment successfully, he now feels he is the right person to tell us that Bill Gates is wrong..

What does he know about policies, talkless economic policies?

Infact, He should show us his WAEC score for Economics sef...

Buhari shouldn't bother o, we know he failed woefully in it..

Give us solutions, tell us what you are doing to change the status quo, the progress made so far and things..

Stop correcting people, we don't want to know your ideals.. we want realistic and strategic approach to solving issues...

Period!
Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by Nobody: 10:10am On Mar 23, 2018
0monnak0da:
Many totally lack understanding.

In 1945 Germany and Japan lost the War and their infrastrcture completely destroyed by bombardment. Today they are among the largest world economies .Why ? One answer their people and the contents of their people's heads.

...

We cannot even set up ur own Supermarket chains . Human Capital is everything.
An ignorant superstitious people will never go very far and [s]two of our greatest enemies in Nigeria are Islam and Christianity[/s]

Maybe for you sha. undecided

Despite certain abuses by some religious leaders and others, a wise nation shouldn't be without seeking God's face regularly.
Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by 0monnak0da: 10:11am On Mar 23, 2018
angelbulksms:


Maybe for you sha. undecided

Despite certain abuses by some religious leaders and others, a wise nation shouldn't be without seeking God's face regularly.
OK can you please make a short list of 3 Nations that you consider to be "WISE"


Is Nigeria a wise nation
Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by Chukazu: 10:16am On Mar 23, 2018
lipsrsealed
Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by luckyogor(m): 10:17am On Mar 23, 2018
U.N say this,U.N says that,must we (africans) always expose our idiocy,ain't we tired of being slaves to the white continent, is it that we can't plan anything on our own,so if U.N does not say kpam we cant do kpam,smh for the black Continent, slavery and colonialism have been banished decades ago but the people are so used to massa massa that they cant act of their own free will anymore,shameful govt official's.
Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by Chukazu: 10:17am On Mar 23, 2018
You know the states are responsible, but you can always open your silly mouth to blame Jonathan for the same failure?
Now that your Fulani Herdsman brother is in power, your hypocrisy won't allow you blame him?

Suffering from "chronic Dwarfsm"
Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by shekauvsbuhari: 10:27am On Mar 23, 2018
0monnak0da:
Many totally lack understanding.

In 1945 Germany and Japan lost the War and their infrastrcture completely destroyed by bombardment. Today they are among the largest world economies .Why ? One answer their people and the contents of their people's heads.

The other side of Human capital is the opposite of knowledge. So Knowledge is not just about having it or not having it but there is a third condition Antiknowledge. A state engendered by possessing and being possessed by all manner of religious and pseudo religious beliefs about howthe world works . Propagated by Pentecostal Christianity,Islam and others. Ideas such as Miraculous Breakthrough,Prosperity teaching and related foolishnes which stop our people fro embracing science and reality like adults. Instead we propagate foolishness like Money ritual, Stolen penis stolen destiny and such like

In Northern Nigeria where it is said that we have the greatest population ,What propotion of the are educated skilled or able to contribute to the economy ,what propotion of the women.

The reality is it is Human Capital that makes one naation slaves of another.

The ultimate driver of wealth is the Firm ,the multinational

The Nestles,Toyotas,ABBs,Facebooks,CocaColas,General Electrics,Pfizers, Siemens, Boeings of this world are what determine which countries are rich and which aren't .Even at the most basic level of civil Engineering where is the HumanCapital.

Visit any major Engineering project , Road or Brdge building site and the person in charge is a white man in his 40s . Where are our own people.
Now we are building power plants without the knowledge of how maintain them

We cannot even set up ur own Supermarket chains . Human Capital is everything.
An ignorant superstitious people will never go very far and two of our greatest enemies in Nigeria are Islam and Christianity
no. Rather our problem is our people's warped interpretation, understanding and application of islam n christianity. Remember it was de missionaries from USA n britain that gave us education n de church but dey are doing very well. Saudi de hub of Islam is swimming in prosperity. Why is our own different? Our people lack balance, proper understanding and application of what was taught them.
Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by Hmajeed(m): 10:37am On Mar 23, 2018
Shayetet13:
White man made an observation and Aboki of all people is disagreeing. Aboki is many years behind a white man in brain development. So, Aboki just shut up already!
You no near having sense I swear! So to you bill gate is infallible.smh..
Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by uchennn: 10:45am On Mar 23, 2018
The following conversation ensued between a medical doctor and a patient

Dr: Patient, from our test results, we found out that you have acute malaria
Patient : Doc doc, you are not correct
Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by Nobody: 10:46am On Mar 23, 2018
duni04:

You won't go into the granule of what Gates said and El-rufai's response, your own is that a white man made an observation and his word is law! Mr low self esteem. Gates was speaking from the point of view of health care and education. He definitely didn't directly critic Buhari's EGRP blueprint. But I trust people like you not to go into the specifics and basics of the argument. Your own is that a white man has made an observation and we must all bow. Ode!
you cannot compare yourself with the white man. if the white man did not come to help u develop, you would have still been in the bush by now. even now, he is light years ahead of you
Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by usomine2014: 10:47am On Mar 23, 2018
El Rufai you are a stupid governor
Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by Nobody: 10:48am On Mar 23, 2018
hakimi1974:
your sense of reasoning is apalling. you remind me of that nigger called stephen in the movie django unchained. just to let you know, your accademic qualification pale into insignificance, compared to aboki el-rufai's own.

what is his academic qualification and what world problem has he solved with it?
Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by newoffer: 11:06am On Mar 23, 2018
El rufai Omo Eli. U beta sharrap before I vex . What do u know about economy? Do u think we are talking about confusion here.
Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by 0monnak0da: 12:02pm On Mar 23, 2018
Difference between Singapore and Dubai is Human Capital not concrete and steel

Both are in the top 10 in terms of productivity but Singapore is ahead and Singapore has no oil. Importantly Singapore and Nigeria both gained independence at the same tie and were then economically at similar levels.

What made the difference? Choices!!

Choices to develop Human capital.

Not every choice means more money e.g the choice to stop marrying off children in the North. The choice to stop Almajirism. Choice to stop spending money on Hajj

A lot of the problem is down to corruption though.

Imagine that JAMB has been in existence for 40 years and never remitted money back to government and consider the same across many parastatals

This is money that could be used to equip schools and pay for apprenticeships. Not everyone must have Western education but everyone should have the opportunity to contribute

In fact apprenticeships are for me, the most important component of education and needs recognition, formalization and funding. Where are the apprenticeships even in road building an important component of the infrastructure drive .

The issue is not an either or choice. We need Infrastructre and we need human capital.


Let us look at medicine for example. We need to raise the game of our practitioners. That is Human capital investent but then Medicine should run as a business that means that some levels of hospital cannot be paid for by the government for everyone. Probably we need an Insurance system to cover majority if not everyone

Again who will work in the insurance industry if you do not develop Human capacity?

Increasingly we live in an IT world

there are local problem requiring local IT solutions
who will develop those if we don't build capacity.

Our movie industry has stagnated. It annot ove to the next level. Why?

The technlogy to solve te herdsman crisis and even double our cattle producion exists ,in fact has existed more more than a hundred years. There is no investment in building capacity in the cattle owners (Educaion) and so we pay the cost. Like I said edcation must be relevant and solve problems not the learning oof redundant "facts"

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Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by slimdamatrix1(m): 12:14pm On Mar 23, 2018
This El-Rufai doesn’t seem normal these days. Is it old age or attention seeking? I’m sick of him

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Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by hakimi1974(m): 12:21pm On Mar 23, 2018
Shayetet13:


what is his academic qualification and what world problem has he solved with it?
I have no time to bandy words with ignorant house nigger like you.
Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by Pkjoz: 12:42pm On Mar 23, 2018
Bill Gates, co-chairman of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, says the execution process of the economic and recovery growth plan (ERGP) does not reflect the needs of Nigerians.

The ERGP is a medium-term document launched by President Muhammadu Buhari administration in 2017 to restore the nation’s economic status after it was hit by its worst recession in 29 years.

Gates, who is now the second richest man in the world, made this statement while speaking at the expanded national economic council presided over by Vice President Yemi Osinbajo on Thursday.

“Nigeria is one of the most dangerous places in the world to give birth with the fourth worst maternal mortality rate in the world ahead of only Sierra Leone, Central African Republic and Chad. One in three Nigerian children is chronically malnourished,” he said.

“The Nigerian government’s economic recovery and growth plan identify investing in our people as one of three strategic objectives. But the execution priorities don’t fully reflect people’s needs, prioritizing physical capital over human capital.

“To anchor the economy over the long term, investments in infrastructure and competitiveness must go hand in hand with investments in people.

“People without roads, ports, and factories can’t flourish. And roads, ports and factories without skilled workers to build and manage them can’t sustain an economy.”

He said the biggest African office of his foundation is in Nigeria adding that the organisation has committed over $1.6 billion with intentions of increasing the commitment.

Gates said addressing the issue of stunted growth will add $30 billion to the GDP annually.

“The most important choice you can make is to maximize your greatest resource, the Nigerian people. Nigeria will thrive when every Nigerian is able to thrive,” he continued.

“If you invest in their health, education and opportunities, the human capital we are talking about today then; that will lay the foundation for sustained prosperity.

“If you don’t, however, then it is very important to recognise that there will be a sharp limit on how much the country can grow.”

He said he would partner with the federal government on taxes to generate revenue for health and education.

In 2016, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation in collaboration with the Dangote Foundation committed $100 million to fight malnutrition


I think Bill is a supporter of the opposition. When a government does not take resposibilities for inactions and improper actions, that is what they will say and other times, 'i dont know'. They only celebrate ineptitute and hypocracy. When a genue call for action stir them at the face, the begin to fault it, because the knowledge for implementation is far fetch.
Re: El-Rufai: "Bill Gates' Opinion On Buhari’s Economic Policy Not Correct" by 0monnak0da: 12:47pm On Mar 23, 2018
hakimi1974:
I have no time to bandy words with ignorant house nigger like you.

Abusive language is not an argument. It is weak and empty

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