That means our pupils are sitting ducks

Cromcruach91:


The problem with such security reports is that they cannot give an exact place where the attack would happen.

During the last admin, there was an attack on a shopping mall in Abuja. There was a security report that there would be an attack on a mall in Abuja beforehand...but the problem is that Abuja has dozens of shopping malls. The report did not state which mall.

Intelligence is not like the movies.

and the attack can't be prevented by downsizing the shopping mall with the highest threat

Cromcruach91:
Hmmm

1.There are probably at least 500 schools in Borno state. How will the army defend them all? And fight Boko, and the other crisis in the country? (Remember that there is the Fulani issue , and the crime issue, and the fact that most states prefer to use soldiers for internal security ops?)

2.How many soldiers can the army deploy to each school? There were eight soldiers at chibok. All Boko needed to do was send in hundreds of their fighters to Chibok...and there was nothing eight soldiers could do...

3.The real problem here is our underfunded police force, and anyway, they too have all sorts of problems to deal with.

4.My solution....empower the civilian JTF. And provide more security by running a government that creates jobs....by, you know, promoting investment in things that promote manufacturing...which would encourage more people to get educated...and more people to stay away from Boko.

But the military can find troops to deploy for Operation python dance right? But not enough troops for the "huge" land mass in the north.

What do we have capacity to do in this shithole of a country?
Is it motorable road?
Good health facilities?
Standard education?
Constant electricity? etc
I weep for my dear country

Cromcruach91:
Hmmm

1.There are probably at least 500 schools in Borno state. How will the army defend them all? And fight Boko, and the other crisis in the country? (Remember that there is the Fulani issue , and the crime issue, and the fact that most states prefer to use soldiers for internal security ops?)

The army does not need to defend all 500 schools before they can defend the territorial integrity of Nigeria, they only need to improve on their trainings, ease of deployment and equipment. For Boko Haram to drive into dapchi or any other school, carry out their operations and drive back to based would require nothing less than 6 hours. A military that cannot be deployed in 6 hours to confront an attack within its territory is not worth to be called an army. It simply means a foreign power can invade the country and over run most of the country before the army can put up a response.
So what was the use of all those Chinese satellites we said we launched if it cannot be used to track invaders with numerous trucks?

2.How many soldiers can the army deploy to each school? There were eight soldiers at chibok. All Boko needed to do was send in hundreds of their fighters to Chibok...and there was nothing eight soldiers could do...

As I said soldiers need not be stationed at every school. As you already noted a few soldiers cannot withstand an army of Boko Haram fighters. Are you telling us that there is no army based or barracks in burno? A moderately equipped army must have attack helicopters and transport aircrafts for fast deployment. We are also supposed to have an airforce that could be deployed to area of conflicts within minutes. I thought the government said they borrowed $1 billion to but equipment to fight Boko Haram? Where are they?

3.The real problem here is our underfunded police force, and anyway, they too have all sorts of problems to deal with.

Police are not trained or equipped to fight insurgency or organised armed groups. It is the job of the military to defend against foreign and internal armies.

4.My solution....empower the civilian JTF. And provide more security by running a government that creates jobs....by, you know, promoting investment in things that promote manufacturing...which would encourage more people to get educated...and more people to stay away from Boko.

Civilian JTF would not work in the long run as they cannot confront trained fighters who are maintained by local or foreign enermies. This is a job for the military.

So what can you do apart from wearing over starched uniforms and feeling like Ramos.
You cannot protect the country
You cannot discipline your men
Now you admit you cannot protect schools.

Cromcruach91:
Hmmm

1.There are probably at least 500 schools in Borno state. How will the army defend them all? And fight Boko, and the other crisis in the country? (Remember that there is the Fulani issue , and the crime issue, and the fact that most states prefer to use soldiers for internal security ops?)

2.How many soldiers can the army deploy to each school? There were eight soldiers at chibok. All Boko needed to do was send in hundreds of their fighters to Chibok...and there was nothing eight soldiers could do...

3.The real problem here is our underfunded police force, and anyway, they too have all sorts of problems to deal with.

4.My solution....empower the civilian JTF. And provide more security by running a government that creates jobs....by, you know, promoting investment in things that promote manufacturing...which would encourage more people to get educated...and more people to stay away from Boko.

Are you okay? Empower another militia so that five years from now we will have freshly minted warlords?

In other words they don't have the capacity to defend Nigeria.

What a shameful confession.

But they claimed to have defeated Boko Haram.

Cromcruach91:
Hmmm

1.There are probably at least 500 schools in Borno state. How will the army defend them all? And fight Boko, and the other crisis in the country? (Remember that there is the Fulani issue , and the crime issue, and the fact that most states prefer to use soldiers for internal security ops?)

2.How many soldiers can the army deploy to each school? There were eight soldiers at chibok. All Boko needed to do was send in hundreds of their fighters to Chibok...and there was nothing eight soldiers could do...

3.The real problem here is our underfunded police force, and anyway, they too have all sorts of problems to deal with.

4.My solution....empower the civilian JTF. And provide more security by running a government that creates jobs....by, you know, promoting investment in things that promote manufacturing...which would encourage more people to get educated...and more people to stay away from Boko.

you are right with your suggestion but I think civil defense officers should be trained on combat techniques and be deployed to those ares instead of hanging under the trees idle. Good move by the President. Nscd, its time to justify your pay.

fuckerstard:
Yeye dey smell, who needs army to protect school when the police is more than enough to provide security to the schools and communities.

Mobile police (MOPOL) are the ones that are meant to be deployed to provide security for those schools, instead all of them don turn slaves for celebrities and rich folks.

Army should go after the insurgents and flush them out.

300 00 police
60,000 schools
5 police per school
think before you talk

Iyajelili:
Military says they don't have enough manpower to send personnel to schools, we agree now government recruit more capable hands, no. They will end up putting children from wealthy and connected parents in offices undergoing beer and pepper soup surgery while the capable hands are busy battling with Boko Haram in war zones with little ammnuitions and food supply. God go judge una wey get hand for this country pitiable state.

shey you know you sef get hand in d pitiable state.get ready for judgement

mikolo80:
shey you know you sef get hand in d pitiable state.get ready for judgement

How sir?

Deltayankeeboi:
how pathetic! assuming there are at most 10000 secondary schools in the northern region of the country and of course, schools in the north can never be up to 10000. so assuming 5 soldiers are stationed per school. 10000*5=50000 soldiers. so 50000 soldiers can not be deployed to northern schools for security purpose but thousands of soldiers can come to shoot defenceless peaceful ipob protesters. am just saying tho. what do i know

5 soldiers per school against up to 50 terrorists with Rpg, ak47, grenades and all sort of weapons. Are you kidding me?

Shameless lot! But you have capacity to fly military helicopter over a mans house and sent python to dance with him? Oloriburuku!

Cromcruach91:
Hmmm

1.There are probably at least 500 schools in Borno state. How will the army defend them all? And fight Boko, and the other crisis in the country? (Remember that there is the Fulani issue , and the crime issue, and the fact that most states prefer to use soldiers for internal security ops?)

2.How many soldiers can the army deploy to each school? There were eight soldiers at chibok. All Boko needed to do was send in hundreds of their fighters to Chibok...and there was nothing eight soldiers could do...

3.The real problem here is our underfunded police force, and anyway, they too have all sorts of problems to deal with.

4.My solution....empower the civilian JTF. And provide more security by running a government that creates jobs....by, you know, promoting investment in things that promote manufacturing...which would encourage more people to get educated...and more people to stay away from Boko.

Hmm sorry to quote you. But I will disagree with you to an extent. If two I mean just two gallant soldiers were on that school, it would discourage book boys from attacking them easily.

2 Book haram have not openly tell us what actually is their problem or request. On like naija Delta who comes up with their grievances.

3 That statement is detrimental to our security system also poses a bad record and reputation to our stands before our visitors. It also purely mean that we don't have security in this Nation. Finally if we cannot deployed soldiers to those schools why don't you have them on road blocks. Remember this very one happened when they withdrew their solders from road.

Now IG said last time that he is going to withdraw all personnels attaching to VIPs so why did he changed his mind?

Thank you.

yoged:
5 soldiers per school against up to 50 terrorists with Rpg, ak47, grenades and all sort of weapons. Are you kidding me?

Not all school in borno is at the risk of invasion... Using the map can make this things easy... By now they should have mapped out the troubled areas and station soldiers on those places

Iyajelili:

How sir?

if you're not part of the solution
you're part of the problem
virtue signalling is not a solution
cursing the thievees is not a solution
refusing to vote is not a solution
hwat have you done to solve the problem?
have you run for office
have you supported good person running for office
have you entered farm
what of manufacturing
is not enuf to condemn

Cromcruach91:
Hmmm

1.There are probably at least 500 schools in Borno state. How will the army defend them all? And fight Boko, and the other crisis in the country? (Remember that there is the Fulani issue , and the crime issue, and the fact that most states prefer to use soldiers for internal security ops?)

2.How many soldiers can the army deploy to each school? There were eight soldiers at chibok. All Boko needed to do was send in hundreds of their fighters to Chibok...and there was nothing eight soldiers could do...

3.The real problem here is our underfunded police force, and anyway, they too have all sorts of problems to deal with.

4.My solution....empower the civilian JTF. And provide more security by running a government that creates jobs....by, you know, promoting investment in things that promote manufacturing...which would encourage more people to get educated...and more people to stay away from Boko.

Police can't handle sophisticated terrorists like boko harm unless federal government armed them with military armaments like Rpg, bazooka AA etc

wirinet:

The army does not need to defend all 500 schools before they can defend the territorial integrity of Nigeria, they only need to improve on their trainings, ease of deployment and equipment. For Boko Haram to drive into dapchi or any other school, carry out their operations and drive back to based would require nothing less than 6 hours. A military that cannot be deployed in 6 hours to confront an attack within its territory is not worth to be called an army. It simply means a foreign power can invade the country and over run most of the country before the army can put up a response.
So what was the use of all those Chinese satellites we said we launched if it cannot be used to track invaders with numerous trucks?


As I said soldiers need not be stationed at every school. As you already noted a few soldiers cannot withstand an army of Boko Haram fighters. Are you telling us that there is no army based or barracks in burno? A moderately equipped army must have attack helicopters and transport aircrafts for fast deployment. We are also supposed to have an airforce that could be deployed to area of conflicts within minutes. I thought the government said they borrowed $1 billion to but equipment to fight Boko Haram? Where are they?


Police are not trained or equipped to fight insurgency or organised armed groups. It is the job of the military to defend against foreign and internal armies.



Civilian JTF would not work in the long run as they cannot confront trained fighters who are maintained by local or foreign enermies. This is a job for the military.

Well, you said that the army can't be deployed to all schools....

Which means Boko will just focus their kidnapping effort on the schools where there are no troops.

You have confirmed my point.

Also, fast deployment you have in mind ...the problem is, boko might just simply use their hostages as civillian shields.....(There is a reason why even though I did not like GEJ, I still liked the fact that he did not go rushing in to save the Chibok girls.....).

yhormite:
and the attack can't be prevented by downsizing the shopping mall with the highest threat

How do you determine the shopping mall with the highest threat?

The security report said 'a shopping mall in Abuja might be attacked'...which means any and every mall in abuja at that time was under equal threat of attack.

Only way to know the exact target would have been to find out what was happening in the mind of the bokoists...not an easy thought.

Cromcruach91:
Hmmm

1.There are probably at least 500 schools in Borno state. How will the army defend them all? And fight Boko, and the other crisis in the country? (Remember that there is the Fulani issue , and the crime issue, and the fact that most states prefer to use soldiers for internal security ops?)

2.How many soldiers can the army deploy to each school? There were eight soldiers at chibok. All Boko needed to do was send in hundreds of their fighters to Chibok...and there was nothing eight soldiers could do...

3.The real problem here is our underfunded police force, and anyway, they too have all sorts of problems to deal with.

4.My solution....empower the civilian JTF. And provide more security by running a government that creates jobs....by, you know, promoting investment in things that promote manufacturing...which would encourage more people to get educated...and more people to stay away from Boko.

The south have been crying for State police, for community police, but the North are probably of the opinion that it would be an avenue for the South to be fully armed for a possible break away from Nigeria, so they would rather let there people continue to suffer from the ravages of boko haram. The South has finally been vindicated the only solution is for us to have state police and also community policing.

NIGERIAN ARMY SHOULD CONTACT THE ISRAELI ARMY TO HELP THEM OUT.

This is how irresponsibility begins. They won't have capacity to protect ordinary citizens but they'll have capacity to protect corrupt politicians.

oh

buhari you value the life of yusuf and asked your muslim bokoharam brothers to hold the daughter of your fellow man for you to score cheap political point.well power is intoxicating but you cant remain there for ever including your other muslim wicked members

TheAlchemist:


The south have been crying for State police, for community police, but the North are probably of the opinion that it would be an avenue for the South to be fully armed for a possible break away from Nigeria, so they would rather let there people continue to suffer from the ravages of boko haram. The South has finally been vindicated the only solution is for us to have state police and also community policing.

State police costs a lot of money, plus, they probably won't be able to deploy men to all places.

Remember Boko does not need to attack all schools...they just need to attack one remote school (Chibok and Dapichi are in rather remote areas.) with a whole lot of resources.

The best a state police could do is deploy just about five men to a school....plus state police is not easy to fund.(My problem with state police is not that it is a bad idea...but which state can fund state police adequately....with enough arms for all of them. Not all our federal policemen are armed by the way.).

And I can just see a scenario where there are five lightly armed policemen guarding one school...in a remote location...facing off against a group of 40 or 50 bokoists...armed with RPG, machine guns, and IED's. The state police will withdraw (and don't talk about rapid response via helicopter...)

so what's stops another invasion , BH done Hammer

"instead of having each house fenced, why not have a fenced city" all you need is info, we never ready to face the truth...... I don't think FBI has to b in all schools to prevent terrorist action... there's is a way...

The CJTF was getting the job done at some point. But some fool in govt or the security apparatus is afraid of them growing wings, so they would let them arm themselves with anything other than Dane guns.

This war is almost lost. And continuing the wrong strategy will only lead to wrong results. let us start the experiment of localizing of the police in the north east.

1) With immediate effect, let the cjtf carry assault weapons like the kamajors eventually did in Sierra Leone . They should be funded by the state govt, and a state panel that includes the governor, mayors, judiciary and traditional rulers will over see their command and conduct.

This will form the nucleus of the state police force . NPF existing forces from the state should be sent home to augment this force. This state gendarmerie will be provided for by the security vote and state IGR.

NA should only remain a back up to this force..

CodeTemplar:
But they have capacity to brutalize innocent citizens.
According to the Dapchi girls they drove for several hours and the Nigerian Army couldn' t get them.

Nigerian armed forces are very reflective of the indepth, ingrained and endemic corruption that pervades every area of government.

Modern armies do not rely on numbers to monitor and police an area but on an entire connective modern communication infrastructure, pro active contingency plans, interfacing, rapid response and fit for purpose precision weaponry.


Has anybody ever wondered why our casualty rate is so extremely high, look at the number of officers that have been lost that we know about. Consider them.tje number of NCO'S lost and you will realise there are too many questions not answered.

We are not France but consider Operation Serval which was instituted to oust Jihadist groups that nearly over ran the entire North of Mali. About 4000 French armed forces personal were committed to the operation. To date not more than 25 soldiers have been lost over the near three years of the operation.

Compare that to the thousands of Nigerian armed forces personal committed to the North East. We do not know how many soldiers have been lost, thousands or hundreds.

I will leave it at that as this is a topic that's close to my heart. I don't often talk about it anymore.

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