Cougar:

i cannot believe you don't know lindegaard. we have been linked to him since over 3 months ago now and there are rumours he is homosexual.

So he'll fit right in with Rio.

debosky:

So he'll fit right in with Rio.

u need jesus in ur life.

Debo, so wa ok?

I'm very ok thanks. . . .you? You've virtually abandoned your thread.

Am always very much around . . . . . . and the greeting wasnt in good spirits, get that atrocious pic off this hallowed thread.

What does Michael Carrick have to do to get some respect. Granted he has a bit of downside, but he is a very capable midfielder who can control a game with the best of them.

Capello needs to get his head out of his arse and make Carrick a permanent fixture. Gareth Barry is nowhere near good enough as Carrick.

LOL

But it is a picture of one of your best players isn't it?

omi tutu:

What does Michael Carrick have to do to get some respect. Granted he has a bit of downside, but he is a very capable midfielder who can control a game with the best of them.

Capello needs to get his head out of his arse and make Carrick a permanent fixture. Gareth Barry is nowhere near good enough as Carrick.

capello must be sleeping with gareth barry's mom or female relatives. everyone knows carrick is the better player. he has outplayed barry in all the machester derbies and yet carrick gets ignored because he doesn't start enough games for fergie's man utd. barry ruined england against germany. the way ozil ghosted past him even though he had a head start of about 10 yards to the ball was laughable.

Cougar:

i cannot believe you don't know lindegaard. we have been linked to him since over 3 months ago now and[b] there are rumours he is homosexual.
[/b]

any links?
besides there are also rumours of links with David De Gea.

omi tutu:

What does Michael Carrick have to do to get some respect. Granted he has a bit of downside, but he is a very capable midfielder who can control a game with the best of them.

Capello needs to get his head out of his arse and make Carrick a permanent fixture. Gareth Barry is nowhere near good enough as Carrick.

is that a joke?

btw he is not as bad as Barry.

mbulela:

any links?
besides there are also rumours of links with David De Gea.

lindegaard will make more sense than david de gea.  he is most definitely, undoubtedly, a better buy at 3.5 million than the 15 million 19 year old david de gea!

on a positive note, check out bebe's goals against wigan's reserves. his second goal tonight should be the goal of the season.



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Bebesila at his best in the reserves team . Man U 3 - Wigan 1

tkb417:

what do you think of that boi Henderson? tho ill prefer a european to start mashalling the heart of our midfield whenever Scholes pave way for a new recruit

Henderson still has a long way to go if his display against France is anything to go by.He's decent but hardly creative.Which is what we need right now. . .
@Cougar,
United have been linked with him for years,but aside from that and the fact that he's Denmarks goalie,what else do we know?
Aside from that,I would think Fergie knows what he's doing.De Gea woulda been a better option for me,though.He's gaining quite a reputation.
But all the same,the gaffer knows best,abi?

Cougar:

pique is a very good defender. he will walk into any starting xi in the premiership. forget the whole centre back for world champions. every player has had a bad game. name one defender that hasn't been skinned on this planet. they all get skinned from time to time. it's part n parcel of the game. what happened there might not happen again to pique for the next 5 years.

The same Pique who left United because Rio and Vidic practically owned the CB?Nah. . .
Yes every player has a bad game,but agains,based on his "reputation",which he's earned by virtue of being a World Champion,I guess it's in order to say he was laid bare by Ronaldo. . .

Manchester United have provisionally agreed a £3.5m deal to replace Edwin van der Sar with a goalkeeper Peter Schmeichel has flatly described as not good enough to play for the club.

Anders Lindegaard, the newly established Danish international, will move to Old Trafford in January but Schmeichel thinks Sir Alex Ferguson is making a serious error bringing in the 26-year-old from the Norwegian club Aalesunds FK.

"I don't believe it for a minute," Schmeichel replied in an interview last week in which he championed Liverpool's José Reina as the right man to take over from Van der Sar if, as expected, the Dutchman retires at the end of the season.

Schmeichel, widely recognised as the greatest goalkeeper in United's history, was asked whether his compatriot Lindegaard was of sufficient quality to play for England's biggest club. "No," he replied. "We are talking about Manchester United here. You can look at talent, you can look at young good players, [but] you don't want that, you want someone who can go in straight away and give performances in 80% of the games that the number one choice goalkeeper will play for Manchester United.

"Too many goalkeepers have been through, in and out of the doors at Manchester United, and the general perception is, for this team to play well and win trophies, that position has to be [filled by] someone who is of the very, very highest quality but also the right experience."

Lindegaard, a boyhood United fan who has cited Schmeichel as his hero, had a distinctly ordinary career until signing for Aalesunds last year, initially on loan. He was so impressive he was offered a three-year deal and his form since then has enabled him to replace Thomas Sorensen in the Denmark team, winning four caps.
It was first reported United's interest on 4 October after the club's goalkeeping coach, Eric Steele, travelled to Norway to watch him for a fifth time. Steele has reported to Ferguson that Lindegaard would be a reliable candidate to fill the gap left by Van der Sar, and is particularly commanding in the air, at 6ft 4in.

The Aalesunds chief executive, Henrik Hoff, and the chairman, Bjarne Haagensen, flew into England today to close the deal and the talks are said to be at an advanced stage. Jim Solbakken, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's agent, has been mediating between the clubs and Ferguson has decided it is worth the gamble despite Lindegaard barely being on his radar during six years at his previous club, Odense. Lindegaard was largely second or third choice in that time and, ironically, his decision to look for new employers was based partly on the club signing the former United goalkeeper Roy Carroll.

United's need for at least one new goalkeeper has become a priority for Ferguson, with Ben Foster sold to Birmingham City in the summer and the manager never being fully convinced by Tomasz Kuszczak, who is expected to leave. The club have high hopes for the 20-year-old Ben Amos but believe he is far from ready for a run in the first team.

Lindegaard has been told he will initially be cover for Van der Sar but will then get the opportunity to establish himself as United's number one. That depends on when Van der Sar plans to retire – the Dutchman says he will make a decision in the new year – and whether Ferguson thinks he needs to bring in another goalkeeper.

David De Gea, the Spain Under-21 international, has also come to the attention of United after his impressive performances for Atlético Madrid in La Liga, and Ferguson took Steele on a spying mission earlier this season to watch him play against Valencia.

De Gea would be far more expensive than Lindegaard, whose low valuation will appeal to United's owners. It is possible that United would consider buying both De Gea and Lindegaard. Manuel Neuer, the Germany international, has also been discussed but Schalke 04 would want a considerable transfer fee.

Reina last week denied reports that he wanted a transfer and, if Ferguson did want to sign the Spaniard, any attempt to arrange a deal with Liverpool would be fraught with difficulties because of the relationship between the rival clubs.

We will buy a 2nd goalkeeper in the summer.
someone more high profile and more experienced.
Kusczkak will leave in the summer too.

I think the guy is coming to replace Kitkat not VDS

VDS's replacement hasnt been bought yet. Definitely, it cant be that Dane

mbulela:

is that a joke?

btw he is not as bad as Barry.

is this a joke too

Barry is not as bad as Carrick

so sayeth the coach of England

tkb417:

I think the guy is coming to replace Kitkat not VDS

VDS's replacement hasnt been bought yet. Definitely, it cant be that Dane

Then the poor guy is coming to kill his career. . . moving from Danish No 1 to a bench warmer at Utd.

To those saying Carrick is being overlooked, he doesn't do as much defensive work as Barry. . . .Barry is a donkey who will work and work for hours on end which is why Capello favours him. I don't think Carrick has that type of attitude.

Barry for all his defensive qualities isn't doing anything for England.

Barry still useless as a defensive shield considering he give the ball away more than he wins it.

Just giving Barry benefit of the doubt,
He's actually quite useless.Can't belive he starts for England when he's lost his place with City. . .

debosky:

Then the poor guy is coming to kill his career. . . moving from Danish No 1 to a bench warmer at Utd.

how will he kill his own career? united is the biggest football institution in the world. warming the bench in united is not a career-killing move. js park is the best asian player in the last 5 years or so. he's a bench warmer at old trafford.

To those saying Carrick is being overlooked, he doesn't do as much defensive work as Barry. . . .Barry is a donkey who will work and work for hours on end which is why Capello favours him. I don't think Carrick has that type of attitude.

then either you or fabio capello does not understand modern football. defensive work is not about running around like a headless chicken snapping at heels like jack wilshere does every now and then. defensive work is more of interception. second guessing your opponents and making interceptions to cut them off. the art known to michael carrick. it seems capello is yet to learn from his mistakes playing barry in the middle of the park. michael carrick is a far better player defensively and offensively. barry's work rate is overrated.

Barry's work is not snapping into tackles all over the pitch, De Jong does that. . . .his work rate and ability to cover the left side of midfield is what makes him unique. He's a workhorse who won't quit all game long.

Carrick may be better offensively, but he isn't better defensively.

As for the Danish GK, he became No 1 because of week in week out performances. . . if he becomes a bench warmer at Utd, he'll definitely drop to No 2 again soon enough.

debosky:

Barry's work is not snapping into tackles all over the pitch, De Jong does that. . . .his work rate and ability to cover the left side of midfield is what makes him unique. He's a workhorse who won't quit all game long.

rubbish analysis. ability to cover the left side of midfield? so what is the job of the left winger if barry's task is to cover the left side of midfield. arsenal fans can be obdurate, big-hearted buffoons sometimes.

Carrick may be better offensively, but he isn't better defensively.

bar hargreaves, carrick is better defensively than any english midfielder. just because a player doesn't run around like headless chickens don't mean he is not doing his defensive duties. carrick is neat about the way he carries his task on the pitch and as an aside, carrick is one of the few english midfielders who can deliver 50 yard pass to your feet. his vision and passing is miles ahead of barry's.

As for the Danish GK, he became No 1 because of week in week out performances. . . if he becomes a bench warmer at Utd, he'll definitely drop to No 2 again soon enough.

playing for united guarantees automatic shirts for country. smalling - a bench warmer in man utd got his invitation just last week. united will launch him to stardom and playing for a crap football country like denmark, he will soon become danish's number one football icon upstaging vermins like bendtner and sorensen.

Cougar:

rubbish analysis. ability to cover the left side of midfield? so what is the job of the left winger if barry's task is to cover the left side of midfield. arsenal fans can be obdurate, big-hearted buffoons sometimes.

And cougars are patently moronic simpletons unable to distinguish between the primary role of a player and other things he brings to the table. The ability on the left is an additional quality that Barry possesses, not his primary task.

bar hargreaves, carrick is better defensively than any english midfielder. just because a player doesn't run around like headless chickens don't mean he is not doing his defensive duties. carrick is neat about the way he carries his task on the pitch and as an aside, carrick is one of the few english midfielders who can deliver 50 yard pass to your feet. his vision and passing is miles ahead of barry's.

Reh reh reh. . . yet he isn't playing regularly for Utd.

playing for united guarantees automatic shirts for country. smalling - a bench warmer in man utd got his invitation just last week. united will launch him to stardom and playing for a crap football country like denmark, he will soon become danish's number one football icon upstaging vermins like bendtner and sorensen.

So why isn't Carrick playing for England?

Scumtwats make the most harebrained statements imaginable.

debosky:

And cougars are patently moronic simpletons unable to distinguish between the primary role of a player and other things he brings to the table. The ability on the left is an additional quality that Barry possesses, not his primary task.

so what is barry's primary task and why would he be deployed to cover on the left when he's mainly a defensive midfielder in a system playing 4-4-2 or 4-5-1. in one big swoop, i have identified your indolence without trying too hard.

Reh reh reh. . . yet he isn't playing regularly for Utd.

if you use playing regularly for united as a yardstick then you will be lost in the storm. the strength in depth has ensured no one gets a guaranteed shirt. can you name united's starting line up tomorrow? no one can. fergie has not used the same line-up in the last 206 games so i think you need to understand united's squad rotation when debating carrick's appearances for man utd.

So why isn't Carrick playing for England? 
Scumtwats make the most harebrained statements imaginable.

capello is a slowpoke and besides that, carrick had an achilles injury that has kept his form tumbling in the last 18 months. apart from his niggling injuries here and there, he is better suited as a defensive midfielder than gareth barry. i hope the link below modifies your logic process about what being a defensive midfielder really entails.

http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/03/03/michael-carrick-demonstrates-why-he-could-be-crucial-to-englands-world-cup-hopes/

Cougar:

so what is barry's primary task and why would he be deployed to cover on the left when he's mainly a defensive midfielder in a system playing 4-4-2 or 4-5-1. in one big swoop, i have identified your indolence without trying too hard.

Do I really have to spell it out for you? He is a defensive midfielder/passer with the versatility to move wide left to cover the left back if he's being given a torrid time.

if you use playing regularly for united as a yardstick then you will be lost in the storm. the strength in depth has ensured no one gets a guaranteed shirt. can you name united's starting line up tomorrow? no one can. fergie has not used the same line-up in the last 206 games so i think you need to understand united's squad rotation when debating carrick's appearances for man utd.

Utter bollocks. . . .with all this rotation Vidic starts every league/EPL game if fit, ditto for VDS, Nani and Evra and you're talking about squad rotation? Only the players that can't deliver consistently either due to age or form are rotated frequently - Carrick clearly falls into this category.

capello is a slowpoke is and besides that, carrick had an achilles injury that has kept his form tumbling in the last 18 months. apart from his niggling injuries here and there, he is better suited as a defensive midfielder than gareth barry. i hope the link below modifies your logic process about what being a defensive midfielder really entails.

http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/03/03/michael-carrick-demonstrates-why-he-could-be-crucial-to-englands-world-cup-hopes/

Tumbling form for 18 months and he should replace Barry? You've answered the question for yourself - let's see consistent performances from him in a Utd shirt and I'm sure he'll get a look in.

Barry's form for England helped them qualify for the WC, so you don't expect Capello to simply drop him for someone else, especially since you've even admitted that the replacement's form has been dodgy at best.

debosky:

Do I really have to spell it out for you? He is a defensive midfielder/passer with the versatility to move wide left to cover the left back if he's being given a torrid time.

and where did you get this from? capello's notepad? defensive midfielders are stationed in front of the centre-halves to protect them. if play goes to either the left side or the right side, they should be positionally sound to quell the danger. so telling me he is versatile to cover the left back and ignoring the right side has found you or barry out. one of you is a slowpoke and my $25 says it is you!

Utter bollocks. . . .with all this rotation Vidic starts every league/EPL game if fit, ditto for VDS, Nani and Evra and you're talking about squad rotation? Only the players that can't deliver consistently either due to age or form are rotated frequently - Carrick clearly falls into this category.

and you are sure rio has started every league game for man utd? you are also sure of evra? nani? you must be a senior lummox. squad rotation is the key in big teams. why is bendtner complaining in arsenal(a thinner squad for that matter)? because he is not good enough or he's too old to kick or what? you need to carry your inept thinking to your thread - where you are hero-worshipped as the dullest of the lot.

Tumbling form for 18 months and he should replace Barry? You've answered the question for yourself - let's see consistent performances from him in a Utd shirt and I'm sure he'll get a look in.

barry doesn't even have any form. he's not good enough. a rooney without form is better than darren bent in form. carrick without form is better than anything gareth barry can offer. that is the real mccoy of this debate. under no circumstances should barry be starting ahead of carrick. carrick has class, barry does not! simple!

Barry's form for England helped them qualify for the WC, so you don't expect Capello to simply drop him for someone else, especially since you've even admitted that the replacement's form has been dodgy at best.

playing against hapless teams in the qualifiers is different from playing against teams who can retain the ball. do you need encephalography to work out why england was found out in the mundial? carrick is just a player who has suffered most from the lack of appreciation for ball-playing midfielders in england because english fans love a tryer. someone who will run and run without purpose is their ideal player. they have started comparing gareth bale to messi - that is how screwed-up they are upstairs.

in spain, the masters of possession football, carrick is much more popular. xabi alonso said :If they are on top of their game and if Carrick plays, because for me he is a top player, then England will have a chance. If Carrick plays for the national team the way that he does for Manchester United, then it would be very good news for England. I think that he could easily fit in the Spanish system because I really like the way he plays. He reads the game so well, he is always ahead of what is going to happen and he is always in the right position. When he gets the ball, he plays it easy and he is available to his team-mates all the time. For me, he has the profile to play for Barcelona or any of the Spanish teams. He would also be very complimentary to Stevie.

xavi the midfield general also said: “Carrick gives United balance and can play defensively too. He passes well, has a good shot and is a complete player.”

The list of Mediocre players at Manure is about to grow by one, Even Schmeichel can no longer hold his peace.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=844095&sec=transfers&cc=5739, the countdown to January begins and we eagerly await if the trend will change.
Debo, you know since when I've been shouting this from the rooftops (sorry, I meant Arsenal forums).

Can you take a look at this career and tell me this is Manure Quality? anyway Sauron's age old excuse of always making WPOTY at Manure holds no water in this instance as they are yet to make a WGOTY (World Goalkeeper of the year, if there is such an award). Can someone take a look at this stats and tell me this is Manure quality for a 26 year old? abi Lindegaard has come from the bush like Bebe too

Years Team Apps† (Gls)†
2003–2009 OB 11 (0)
2008 → Kolding (loan) 9 (0)
2009 → Aalesund (loan) 18 (0)
2009– Aalesund 38 (0)


Now where are the knives and blades?

Dudu stop disgracing Arsenal fans here. . . .the great Schmeichel's greatest club before joining Utd was Brondby so what are you on about?

Where was Cech playing before he joined Chelski?

debosky:

Dudu stop disgracing Arsenal fans here. . . .the great Schmeichel's greatest club before joining Utd was Brondby so what are you on about?

Where was Cech playing before he joined Chelski?

And he was being loaned out by Brondby
it wasn't about the club Debo, amazed you didn't pick that up, at 24 was Schmeichel being loaned out by Brondby?
For reference as to what I mean, at 22 Fabianski was confirmed starter at Warsaw and had won Polish keeper of the year in the whole of Poland 2 years running (and that is someone most Arsenal fans still do not rate)
Odense where Lindegaard was loaned out and finally sold as a 24 year old is not even the most successful club in the league? now does that look like Manure quality to you?
You don too dey follow Fergie and you have good reason, but this Baba is now acting out of character, no follow am enter bush o.

debosky:

Dudu stop disgracing Arsenal fans here. . . .the great Schmeichel's greatest club before joining Utd was Brondby so what are you on about?

Where was Cech playing before he joined Chelski?  

I'm sorry to say Debosky but I would be embarrassed by Dudu's lamentations if I was a fellow GAYnner.

He is the only one that judges how good a player is/will be judging from their previous clubs
According to Doodooface, we should only be buying players from Real Madrid and Barcelona to prove they are not mediocre players.
I still wont give up on him though. He's not a lost case yet.

I like Carrick but I think his form has been too ropey over the past year and abit for me to really back him over any other rubbish that has represented England in the past couple of years.