paddy_lo:

Dis tpia sef. . .end of the matter with kaduna deputy governor moving up and him becoming VP

what has yar adua got to do with this agian. . na wa

tpia.:



^^ his being confirmed is not the end of the matter like lastpage and the rest of you are saying.

sweeping the issue under the carpet isnt what will work here.


boko haram was dealt with, only for jos to erupt a few months later.

do you still not get it?


small time now you'll say you were "caught offguard"

why wont you be caught offguard when you assume things.

^^ his being confirmed is not the end of the matter like lastpage and the rest of you are saying.

sweeping the issue under the carpet isnt what will work here.


boko haram was dealt with, only for jos to erupt a few months later.

do you still not get it?


small time now you'll say you were "caught offguard"

why wont you be caught offguard when you assume things.

noblezone:

Mazi, ndewo!

This topic is only a tip in the iceberg of the average northern-moslem's mentality. I served in Kaduna State (Zaria to be precise) and I can tell you that these fellows have no single regard or respect for anyone except those of with the duo designations of hausa/fulani & moslem.

This is the very reason why Nigeria cannot make progress in its present structure. We can wait till dooms day, but there mentality will never change. The only language they speak is voilence and blood spilling. That is why irrespective of the selfishness of the so called Niger Delta Militants, their language of violence is being heard even in the North.

I have been consistent in calling for restructuring. The so much power at the centre is the backbone of the winner take all mentality of those fellows. They had to watch Yaradua die than for him to resign.

The current clamour is "where the next President will come from" and not about getting a credible personality who will lead us to a positive direction. As if the Northern Southern divide is not enough, the hausa/fulani moslems has arogated to themselves the ignoble role of an army intimidators. It is either they are in charge or there will be violence.

Nigerians should not think that this is just a threat. Rather than condemn the poster outrightly, we should commend him for mirroring to the open the demonic and evil thoughts of his kinsmen. Non moslems in Kaduna especailly the Igbos should be at aleart. The warning bell has gone forth, dont be caught napping.

Sometimes, I wonder if writing stuffs here do matter in anyway! For  a while now, I simply come in, peep and bow out. I saw your replies to this post, and I feel like saying, "this is one of the reasons why we disagree often on the Nigerian question".

Nigeria is not one, Nigeria has never been one, and Nigeria can never be one, except there is a miracles way of making the hausa/fulani moslem accept that all Nigerians have equal rights but that will be going against the teachings of their faith. they are thought that non moslems are second class citizens.  No matter how they shy away from it, something is fundamentaly wrong with the Islam!

Onye nwe anyi nonyere gi!

13volts:

@ All
you guys are sick wit all your poor minded posts. No body is jitty about a christain governor in KD. Same situation took place in Adamawa State, infact the governor went ahead and completed 2 terms. Yet you guys seem not to see that as an established case of reference, bcoz you all are bunch of tribalcoted fools. 

Katsumoto:

Your post ignores the fact that Kaduna is split evenly between Christians and Muslims while Anabra is a predominantly christian state. Christians in Kaduna have equal rights with Muslims in Kaduna

lastpage:

Just to add my own to the "mix" of hullabaloo around here

1.)Most Igbo commentators here-in have indicated their preference and invitation for the South-South to be part of a future Biafra (infact, one said S-South is an illusion!) The question that keeps coming back to my mind, each time these commentators "welcome" the Niger-Deltans, is: What is this Love and Romance with the South-South about? THEIR CRUDE OIL or they just love them for real? Pick your choice.

2.) During the discussion, some commentators have been trying to "scare the whole Nigeria" about what 'could' happen if Jonathan chooses Sambo as V.P.! What bothers me is that should these same Northern Muslims not be happy that Jonathan did not choose a Northern Christan? What would they have done if he actually picked the Deputy (Yekowa!)? Same peeps will start another story about how Christians have "dominated" everything!

Puzzle being that when it was expedient to "use" Yekowa to garner the Christian vote for the "Muslim Guv'nor (Sambo), Yekowa was "Okay" back then and now that providence (the same providence that is elevating a muslim Guv'nor to V.P) is elevating a Christian deputy toa Guv'nor, Nigeria is simply about to disintegrate Haaba, wetin?

3.) Let me comment on that apart about Yorubas fighting Igbos (or supporting the Hausas to fight the Igbos) as proposed by some posters.
Gone are the days (In Awolowo's days) when that would happen!
The Yoruba nation itself is receiving a "raw deal" from the current Nigerian state (remember that the most vocal proponent of Sovereign National Conference are Yorubas!) and Yorubas know and feel they would do better if devoid of the strangulating bond of "one Nigeria".

The Easterners want out, the S/South want out, The Westerners want out; What about the Northerners? Why dont they want out? Do they love Nigeria more than all other sum-of-parts? Or are they scared of the future? (No pun intended pls)

FYI: All regions can survive on their own only that some might need to re-configure their thinking and become more enterprising and globally proactive.

As for the minorities, none of them want to be with a domineering neighbor and as such, l dont see them willingly joining Biafra or the Northern Clique.
My guts tell me they would rather join (Mid-West) the West than go East  or join another yoking alliance that would suck them of their natural resources. What would be the "situation" of a Kwara state for example, as part of a hegemonic North or an Akwa Ibom in Biafra? Of course, their best bet would be to stick together and stay by themselves though this would also expose them to "annexation" by stronger neighbors, except they form a strong military alliance but loose political alliance with one of the big three.

Finally, as foul as it may sound, The Northerners (Hausa/Fulani), especially the Muslims amongst them, must sit down and tell themselves some home truth.
The only thing still sustaining them TODAY is their domination of the Nigerian military establishment (remember what Dambazzau and his garrison commander did to Jonathan viz-a-viz smuggling our erstwhile President into Abuja?, Remember what happened during the Jos crisis and the role played by the military?) - but globalization, fight against terror and the current wave of Islamophobia (rightly or wrongly) - has diminished that effect so much that it will be inconsequential in an outright declaration of hostility between the North and other parts as l sense that the U.S and other European countries are looking for an excuse to stamp-out "Al-Quaeda" from Nigeria and hostility will present the perfect excuse (I cant see a powerful, Islamic nation that the North can rely upon? Even Russia, post 'cold-war' alliance, is reconsidering its suport for Iran!), moreso, the north does not have crude oil, if you get my drift!

Therefore, Northerners must sit down and address issues, discuss issues of common interest with their neighbors, for peaceful coexistence.
Northerners must adopt western education (After all, the Saudi Royal family has their children in the same western Universities and there is no point being more Catholic than the papacy) since that is the only vehicle of growth, right now.

Northern indigenes must also be ready to hold their leaders accountable, there is no point in declaring sharia in their state while maintaining a string of "delectable virgins" in their "State's Guest House in V.I. and Abuja! The same "Southerners" they preach against are the ones they spend their night with, in the most glorious romantic fantasy that would put ***** to shame! I dont want to mention that whereby Sharia has failed to amputate the hands of their thieving Guv'nors, EFCC is doing a better job! Wize-Up my people.

Having said all these, at times, l feel for Seun, who spent time and resources to put this site together (being not the only one that Nigerians visit to discuss Naija issues) but hoping it will be better than others, only to end up with infantile, childish and at best inferior jesters who cannot even put an article together other than make a few silly comments and fight each other in some baby-ish, ethnic and religious arm-wrestling!
Am sure the guy is wondering by now, how he could "sieve" such people from ever coming here or what others like NVS did, to attract the better brains and profile of contributors!
I feel you Seun, l really do.

Just my perspective, no offense intended and none should be taken.
Cheers.

Ogiade:

EzeUche, wake up from your illusion. Port Harcourt is never an Igbo town and the Ikwerres do not accept that they are ibos. If i may ask you, why are you forcing ibo on your neighbouring tribes? My thought is that you are convinced within you that you cannot make the so called biafra on your own. i expected you to damn the south south and concentrate your quest for biafra on the south east only. the overwhelming rejection of the biafra nationhood after the creation of the twelve states will prove to you how much dislike they have to be joined with the ibos in a political enclave within a nation, let alone aspiring to stay with you in an independent country. Wake up and think Nigeria, its the only option you have.

he Ijaw can have their own small little Republic, but wherever Igbos are in large numbers, we the Core Igbos will never let them GO!!! Not in a million of years.

lastpage:

@favouredjb
Thanks, l take that as a compliment.
U sef, you are somewhere untop of those that standout


u welcome,keep it up

auwal87:

just wondering how the thread becomes an Igbo battlefield

osaxx:

patrick yakowa must rule kaduna now and in 2011, what rubbish,

scoleM:

@EzeUche, mu, mu, muumuu!

there is an issue on ground u are busy deviating. no wonder u dey fail for life. So your mumu don carry your leg out?

Stick into your brains now; that the Bight of Biafra in the map of Africa is owned by the Ijaws not Igbo.

If your Elders were deceived by Ojukwu O. and they were all dead while he is enjoying beautiful Bianca, even u in this era can't see the writings on the wall and live your life well like your sister Prof. Dora is preaching. I think after reading this post u will bury urself in that dry and dusty land of urs.

Make we see again for Port Harcourt, we go use as an escape goat. No insult Asari and other militants. We use diplomacy and machine gun to stage our struggle not like the Igbos that use machet and sticks to fight Nigerian Army.

@ lastpage

You post seemed to be well intended until you started missing (sic) issues of East, South-south, West, etc. Sometimes, I wish contributors come to the forum without holding their punches. There are Ndigbo and I think there seems the so-called and idiotic South-south. In fact, I would want posters to define certain entities properly as in the manner which Igbo or Yoruba are defined. The last time I checked though, eastern region consisted a great portion of the so-called South-south.

Of course, Ndigbo want out of Nigeria and Yoruba, as you have alleged in your post, want out of the cesspit too. For the sake of this discourse, let me center our focus on the southern part of Nigeria. Do the Edo, Ibibio, Efik, Ijo, Urhobo, Itsekiri, Eshan, Ogoni, Annang and Atama also want out of Nigeria too?

Osaxx, You should just say a Republic for the Ijaw. There is no such thing as a Niger Delta Republic, because the people of Rivers, Cross River, and Akwa Ibom would never join a nation with the Ijaw.

lastpage:

@Dede1
Oga Dede1,
Abeegi, I think it will be insulting to you, if someone used such foul language on you, your people or your region?
How can you refer to people from the South/South as idiotic? What makes them idiotic? YOU?

We have said that we should refrain from collectively abusing a nation, it is sheer ignorance.
Again, l am baffled by your anger at people describing themselves as "South-South", a geographical expression of their location i.e South of Southern Nigeria.
South-South only exists on paper as of now, just like Biafra only exists on paper as of today but maybe, maybe not, it will be realized as an entity in future, that l can not predict.
But l do know that "it is wrong to even try to "assimilate a nation, by subjugation, if they want to part of you".
Everyone is entitled to FREEDOM, as a fundamental right, freedom to associate is also a constitutional right.

To develop migraine simply because the Ijaws or Ibibios or Anags or Itshekiri dont want to become a part of your Biafra project, is astonishing and simply satanic.
You want to "yoke them" with the same yoke that you are also trying to escape from, in the Nigerian project? Haaba!

"Eastern region" is not synonymous with Ndigbo, it consists of many other nationalities. It is just a geographical coinage, just like South-South or Mid-West or West/North.

I am not a South-South person but l detest this muscling and "association by force" that your guy is preaching here.
If you try to use force on them, all they need do is "sign a treaty" with one of the major tribes. You attack them and you've attacked the 'major' tribe and you will have another war (but with a bigger foe) on your hand!
One of the lessons l learned from the last Civil war was that "One should not start a fight they cannot win/finish", its just not worth the effort.

Ojukwu is here today, supporting IBB for President (remember who were the principal foe of Biafra?) but millions of Igbo lost their children, wives and bread-winners, in a war he started, and bailed-out to Ivory-Coast, when the going got tough, leaving them in the lurch!
Why is he not championing and rooting for an Igbo President?
Even myself like others from the West, would support the clamour for an Igbo president, for the sake of fairness but how can l, when even the Igbo leader/Lord of War (Ojukwu) is not in support of his own people? Very Ironical, you will agree.

bTW: I think we are derailing this thread unnecessarily. Its not about South-South Vs. Ndigbo, it was about Kaduna, abi? Lets stick to that and shift the Ndigbo/Biafra/South-South, e.t.c to another thread.
I hear that Yekowa has been sworn-in as Guv'nor of Kaduna