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Confessions Of God by simmy(m): 4:10pm On May 13, 2010 |
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Re: Confessions Of God by Nobody: 6:21pm On May 13, 2010 |
simmy: Mary couldn't have been referring to either Joseph or Nicodemus, Did they tell Mary that 'they' we going to take jesus and which could have made Mary to say they i.e Joseph and Nicodemus actually did what they had said? We can say logically that 'they' as said by Mary could have been referring to the authorities that actually persecuted him. Jesus' tomb wasn't in the hidden that even the authorities couldn't have reached if they wanted. Also mary could have been refering to the jews or the authories because of these Mark 14:58 "We heard Him say, 'I will destroy this temple made with hands, and in three days I will build another made without hands.'" Jesus replied, "Tear down this temple, and I'll rebuild it in three days." Mark 15:29 Those passing by were hurling abuse at Him, wagging their heads, and saying, "Ha! You who are going to destroy the temple and rebuild it in three days, Matthew 26:61 and said, "This man stated, 'I am able to destroy the temple of God and to rebuild it in three days.'" Its very possible that the Jews could have wanted to prevent Jesus' statements from coming to pass. isnt it possible that the they as said by Mary could be in response to the above quotes? As said by the OP, this is my own personal view as regards the 'they' |
Re: Confessions Of God by Nobody: 6:49pm On May 13, 2010 |
@ OP, let me also give the following explanation as i read some where SOLDIERS VERIFY JESUS' DEATH The Jews didn't want the bodies on the cross during their special Sabbath (Passover), so they asked Pilate to have their legs broken to hasten death. When the soldiers came to Jesus, they realized He was already dead. To ensure that He was dead the soldiers thrust a spear into His side. "But when they came to Jesus and found that he was already dead, they did not break his legs. Instead, one of the soldiers pierced Jesus' side with a spear, bringing a sudden flow of blood and water, These things happened so that the scripture would be fulfilled: "Not one of his bones will be broken," and, as another Scripture says: "They will look on the one they have pierced." John 19:33-37 PILATE AND THE CENTURION CERTIFY JESUS' DEATH "Pilate was surprised to hear that he was already dead. Summoning the centurion, he asked him if Jesus had already died. When he learned from the centurion that it was so, he gave the body to Joseph." -- Mark 15:44-45 JOSEPH AND NICODEMUS PREPARE JESUS FOR BURIAL Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus took Jesus' body to prepare it for burial. "Later, Joseph of Arimathea asked Pilate for the body of Jesus. Now Joseph was a disciple of Jesus, but secretly because he feared the Jews. With Pilate's permission, he came and took the body away. He was accompanied by Nicodemus, the man who earlier had visited Jesus at night. Nicodemus brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy- five pounds." -- John 19:38-39 WAS JESUS' BODY STOLEN? ----------------------- Although some theorize that Jesus' body was stolen from the tomb, this was highly unlikely. The tomb was totally secured for the following reasons: - it was hewn from solid rock - the tomb entrance was enclosed with a one-to-two ton bolder1 - a Roman seal was placed on the entrance - a Roman guard unit was posted to secure the tomb SOLID ROCK TOMB WITH TWO TON DOOR Jesus was buried in a solid rock tomb. This solid enclosure would make robbery impossible without notice. The entrance to the tomb was enclosed with a large disc-shaped rock that could roll along a sloped groove to rest in front of the entrance. It has been estimated that a stone large enough to adequately cover this entrance would weigh approximately one to two tons.(1) "As evening approached, there came a rich man from Arimathea, named Joseph, who had himself become a disciple of Jesus. Going to Pilate, he asked for Jesus' body, and Pilate ordered that it be given to him. Joseph took the body, wrapped it in a clean linen cloth, and placed it in his own new tomb that he had cut out of the rock. He rolled a big stone in front of the entrance to the tomb and went away." -- Matthew 27:57-60 also see Mark 15:46 The women who came to complete the burial of Jesus the following morning were also impressed by the size and weight of the entrance stone. "and they[the women] asked each other, 'Who will roll the stone away from the entrance of the tomb?' But when they looked up, they saw that the stone, which was very large, had been rolled away." -- Mark 16:3-4 ROMAN SEAL WARNED POTENTIAL THIEVES The official Roman Seal was placed upon the tomb of Jesus to authenticate it and secure it. The seal could only be placed on the entrance to the tomb in the presence of the Roman guards who would be responsible for securing it. To break this seal would cause the power and authority of Rome to fall upon you. When caught, you would be punished by being crucified upside down! Someone would knowingly be risking severe torture and their life to attempt to steal Jesus' body. "Take a guard," Pilate answered. "Go, make the tomb as secure as you know how." So they went and made the tomb secure by putting a seal on the stone and posting the guard. Matthew 27:65-66 The Roman Seal probably consisted of a cord suspended across the entrance affixed by a waxy seal at each end into which the official would stamp an insignia identifying their authority and warning potential thieves who dared break it |
Re: Confessions Of God by SisiKill1: 6:56pm On May 13, 2010 |
[Quote], while recuperating on a psychiatric hospital bed on the Isle of Patmos[/quote] Yep, that totally convinced me this guy knows what he's saying. |
Re: Confessions Of God by Nobody: 7:18pm On May 13, 2010 |
Sisi_Kill:Any relevance of the above to the subject? |
Re: Confessions Of God by simmy(m): 7:27pm On May 13, 2010 |
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Re: Confessions Of God by Nobody: 8:55pm On May 13, 2010 |
simmy:I dnt think i did any extraordinary. I gave my view in countering the word 'they' as alleged by the author of the book to have been referring to joseph&Nicodemus,based on the Roman law&bible quotes. |
Re: Confessions Of God by solababy: 11:41am On May 14, 2010 |
simmy, how do you know that the writer is a Nigerian? i was interested in the book and i made enquiries i was told that the book is not yet available. i don't think a Nigerian will write a book like that. but i think that the writer had a point. if you read the place he quoted about Mary Magdalene you will see that there is continuity in the verses which suggest that Mary was talking about Nicodemus and Joseph but of course there is no proof. i would really like to read that book to see the writer's full argument. |
Re: Confessions Of God by simmy(m): 12:41pm On May 14, 2010 |
@ solababy err, i sort of know the writer, (lol), even tho i totally disagree with him, but i think the writing is good sha, i've read the book already, didnt know its niot available on the net yet |
Re: Confessions Of God by solababy: 2:02pm On May 14, 2010 |
who is he? is johnthomas didymus his is real name? i saw an article he wrote somewhere where i clicked a link to his (www.johnthomasdidymus..com) he seems a nerd though and his writing judging from his blogposts looks professional. is he based abroad? many nigerian writers live abroad. if you know him i will like to know when the book will be available. |
Re: Confessions Of God by simmy(m): 2:13pm On May 14, 2010 |
yer, he is sort of a nerd, (lol),,, he is based in ibadan. his writings are based on years and years of research. i can find out when the book will be available |
Re: Confessions Of God by SisiKill1: 3:23pm On May 14, 2010 |
And he came up with the idea when he was hospitalized in a Psych Hospital, eh? |
Re: Confessions Of God by simmy(m): 4:00pm On May 14, 2010 |
yeah, on the isle of Patmos |
Re: Confessions Of God by SisiKill1: 10:02am On May 15, 2010 |
Hmmmmmm. . . |
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