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Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by GistRealm: 1:31am On Apr 19, 2018
Gimba Kakanda, a Muslim twitter user shares poem they were made to recite during primary school

He called it 'dangerous' because according to him, students were being radicalized without knowing it.
Many other twitter Muslims user who saw the song were surprised as they just sang it without knowing it'd lyrical content.

One of those that retweet even said its the anthem of popular Muslim organisation, MSS.

The song goes thus:
I pledge to Islam my religion, to be faithful loyal and honest, to save Islam with all my power, and I pray for Allah assistance,
I have testified that there is no God except Allah and His prophet Rasul Allah.
I have promise to be a muslim, I have promise to work for Islam I have promise to serve for Islam, so that we may get internal rest
We want Quran as constitution we want Hadith as constitution we will no more accept theory, human theories are bad priestess, human theories aimless theory, oh!
You brothers jihad is coming oh! You Sisters jihad is coming we will no more accept theory."




https://www.gistrealm.com/muslim-man-share-islamic-poem-they-were-made-to-recite-in-primary-school-says-it-is-dangerous/




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Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by GistRealm: 1:33am On Apr 19, 2018

Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by Octaves(m): 1:35am On Apr 19, 2018
Ain't that very pissful of them.

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Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by budaatum: 2:04am On Apr 19, 2018
Any Muslims here still recite this?
Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by TFLAME(m): 2:19am On Apr 19, 2018
shocked shocked shocked damn !!

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Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by noblealuu: 2:53am On Apr 19, 2018
Jesus is the ONLY way, the truth and the life. No man cometh unto the Father except by me (JESUS).

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Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by YOUNGELDER1(m): 4:33am On Apr 19, 2018
Religion of Peace Pieces angry

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Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by Gggg102(m): 5:33am On Apr 19, 2018
How is this different from making a pledge of allegiance to your country. It follows the manner any pledge of allegiance would. It's not different from the national pledge except Muslim's see Islam as a higher authority to man's government.

The see man's work as fallible and god's work as perfect. They see any other government/theory that is not god given as an imperfection. This is not so different from how a Christian sees god.

The Christians see god's way as perfect and the way of man at best is foolishness and sinful.

The Muslim accepts god's way as the only way and the Quran as the only perfect standard.

The same way a Christian accepts god's way as the only way and the Bible as the perfect standard. A Christian would not do anything that goes against the principles of Christianity, to the Christian, the Bible is the ultimate guide and truth. Any thing against the principles of the Bible is against the principle of god. same way the Muslims pledge not to go against the principles of Islam, anything against the principle of Quran is against the principle of god.


What this pledge is stating is equivalent to the Christian praying 'thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.'

Or 'to serve Nigeria with all my strength, to uphold its unity, its honour and glory'

They want Allah's kingdom to be the only kingdom, the same way the Christians want Yahweh's kingdom to be the only kingdom.

They want to uphold the honour and glory of Islam.

They pledge allegiance to god's Kingdom the same way a Christian pledges allegiance to god's Kingdom.

How is a pledge of allegiance to the authority over you dangerous?

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Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by Gggg102(m): 5:34am On Apr 19, 2018
noblealuu:
Jesus is the ONLY way, the truth and the life. No man cometh unto the Father except by me (JESUS).



This is not different from that pledge of allegiance.


You pledge your allegiance to Jesus, they pledge their allegiance to Allah.

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Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by Butterflyleo: 7:27am On Apr 19, 2018
Gggg102:
How is this different from making a pledge of allegiance to your country. It follows the manner any pledge of allegiance would. It's not different from the national pledge except Muslim's see Islam as a higher authority to man's government.

The see man's work as fallible and god's work as perfect. They see any other government/theory that is not god given as an imperfection. This is not so different from how a Christian sees god.

The Christians see god's way as perfect and the way of man at best is foolishness and sinful.

The Muslim accepts god's way as the only way and the Quran as the only perfect standard.

The same way a Christian accepts god's way as the only way and the Bible as the perfect standard. A Christian would not do anything that goes against the principles of Christianity, to the Christian, the Bible is the ultimate guide and truth. Any thing against the principles of the Bible is against the principle of god. same way the Muslims pledge not to go against the principles of Islam, anything against the principle of Quran is against the principle of god.


What this pledge is stating is equivalent to the Christian praying 'thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.'

Or 'to serve Nigeria with all my strength, to uphold its unity, its honour and glory'

They want Allah's kingdom to be the only kingdom, the same way the Christians want Yahweh's kingdom to be the only kingdom.

They want to uphold the honour and glory of Islam.

They pledge allegiance to god's Kingdom the same way a Christian pledges allegiance to god's Kingdom.

How is a pledge of allegiance to the authority over you dangerous?


Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth talks about peacefulness and purpose.

God is love and the bible says that the wisdom which is from above IS FIRST PEACEABLE.

The difference here is at the end of that anthem in the OP.

It says Jihad is coming 3 times.


'Jihad' is the Arabic word meaning 'holy war'. In this context, jihad refers to the use of violence, including paramilitary action against persons, governments deemed to be enemies of the fundamentalist version of Islam

This is in essence what bokoharam has been doing and even the Muslims who spoke about this in shock understand the implications and you can read their reactions from the OP.

There is a huge difference between thy kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven and this one. They are not the same.

The last guy in the OP summed it up nicely when he said IT WAS CLEARLY A WAR SONG.....

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Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by Gggg102(m): 7:37am On Apr 19, 2018
Butterflyleo:


Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth talks about peacefulness and purpose.

God is love and the bible says that the wisdom which is from above IS FIRST PEACEABLE.

The difference here is at the end of that anthem in the OP.

It says Jihad is coming 3 times.




This is in essence what bokoharam has been doing and even the Muslims who spoke about this in shock understand the implications and you can read their reactions from the OP.

There is a huge difference between thy kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven and this one. They are not the same.



https://www.google.com/url?q=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjQtpbw2sXaAhXC0qQKHcAIDDUQFjAGegQIChAB&usg=AOvVaw2GrdOWIp4hVGf4Fsrgo8bg


full link to your quote on jihad.


jihad can also be peaceful

jihad doesn't necessarily mean war. it can also mean personal struggle to do what's right or intellectual conversation with unbelievers with the aim of achieving god's Kingdom.

jihad is for a praiseworthy cause. 'that same link you got your quote from.'


even so, violence has been part of both major religion's advancement.
there were several holy wars and even interdominational wars between the religions.

so the advancement of both religion involved violence. Christianity wasn't as peaceful as you might think.

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Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by Butterflyleo: 7:41am On Apr 19, 2018
Gggg102:



https://www.google.com/url?q=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjQtpbw2sXaAhXC0qQKHcAIDDUQFjAGegQIChAB&usg=AOvVaw2GrdOWIp4hVGf4Fsrgo8bg


full link to your quote on jihad.


jihad doesn't necessarily mean war. it can also mean personal struggle to do what's right or intellectual conversation with unbelievers with the aim of achieving god's Kingdom.

jihad is for a praiseworthy cause. 'that same link you got your quote from.'


even so, violence has been part of both major religion's advancement.
there were several holy wars and even interdominational wars between the religions.

This should help you.


Jihad (English: /dʒɪˈhɑːd/; Arabic: جهاد‎ jihād [dʒɪˈhaːd]) is an Arabic word which literally means striving or struggling, especially with a praiseworthy aim.[1][2][3][4] It can have many shades of meaning in an Islamic context, such as struggle against one's evil inclinations, an exertion to convert unbelievers, or efforts toward the moral betterment of society,[1][2][5] though it is most frequently associated with war.[6] In classical Islamic law, the term refers to armed struggle against unbelievers,[2][3] while modernist Islamic scholars generally equate military jihad with defensive warfare.[7][8] In Sufi and pious circles, spiritual and moral jihad has been traditionally emphasized under the name of greater jihad.[9][3] The term has gained additional attention in recent decades through its use by terrorist groups.

Even regarding Islamic response to others who are not of Islam, the Quran is detailed regarding how to violently handle them which is an aspect of Jihad.

You used the word Christianity WASNT as peaceful....

That's the past. Is is not peaceful today? That is the effect of Jesus and the new testament.

Islam continues till tomorrow to be violent and their Quran supports it till date.

Muhammad was asked about the best jihad. He said: "The best jihad is the one in which your horse is slain and your blood is spilled."
— cited by Ibn Nuhaas and narrated by Ibn Habbaan
Ibn Nuhaas also cited a hadith from Musnad Ahmad ibn Hanbal, where Muhammad states that the highest kind of jihad is "The person who is killed whilst spilling the last of his blood" (Ahmed 4/144).

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Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by Gggg102(m): 7:51am On Apr 19, 2018
Butterflyleo:


This should help you.




Even regarding Islamic response to others who are not of Islam, the Quran is detailed regarding how to violently handle them which is an aspect of Jihad.

You used the word Christianity WASNT as peaceful....

That's the past. Is is not peaceful today? That is the effect of Jesus and the new testament.

Islam continues till tomorrow to be violent and their Quran supports it till date.

The word jihad appears frequently in the Quran with and without military connotations,[10] often in the idiomatic expression "striving in the path of God
(al-jihad fi sabil Allah ) ". [1



In the modern era, the notion of jihad has lost its jurisprudential relevance and instead given rise to an ideological and political discourse. [7] While modernist Islamic scholars have emphasized defensive and non-military aspects of jihad, some Islamists have advanced aggressive interpretations that go beyond the classical theory. [7]
Jihad is classified into inner ("greater"wink jihad, which involves a struggle against one's own base impulses, and external ("lesser"wink jihad, which is further subdivided into jihad of the pen/tongue (debate or persuasion) and jihad of the sword. [1






violent jihad was also in the past. it was during a time of war, now Islam emphasizes peaceful jihad.

also Christianity's violent propagation happened after the new testament.
so it isn't that past. it is part of Christian history.


saying the Quran supports violence today is equivalent to saying the Bible supports violence today because of the recorded violence in them.

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Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by abduljabbar4(m): 7:57am On Apr 19, 2018
GistRealm:
Gimba Kakanda, a Muslim twitter user shares poem they were made to recite during primary school

He called it 'dangerous' because according to him, students were being radicalized without knowing it.
Many other twitter Muslims user who saw the song were surprised as they just sang it without knowing it'd lyrical content.

One of those that retweet even said its the anthem of popular Muslim organisation, MSS.

The song goes thus:
I pledge to Islam my religion, to be faithful loyal and honest, to save Islam with all my power, and I pray for Allah assistance,
I have testified that there is no God except Allah and His prophet Rasul Allah.
I have promise to be a muslim, I have promise to work for Islam I have promise to serve for Islam, so that we may get internal rest
We want Quran as constitution we want Hadith as constitution we will no more accept theory, human theories are bad priestess, human theories aimless theory, oh!
You brothers jihad is coming oh! You Sisters jihad is coming we will no more accept theory."




https://www.gistrealm.com/muslim-man-share-islamic-poem-they-were-made-to-recite-in-primary-school-says-it-is-dangerous/




CC lalasticlala

1) define Jihad for me

2) As a muslim why shouldnt one prefer the laws od his religion?
Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by abduljabbar4(m): 8:05am On Apr 19, 2018
Gggg102:
How is this different from making a pledge of allegiance to your country. It follows the manner any pledge of allegiance would. It's not different from the national pledge except Muslim's see Islam as a higher authority to man's government.

The see man's work as fallible and god's work as perfect. They see any other government/theory that is not god given as an imperfection. This is not so different from how a Christian sees god.

The Christians see god's way as perfect and the way of man at best is foolishness and sinful.

The Muslim accepts god's way as the only way and the Quran as the only perfect standard.

The same way a Christian accepts god's way as the only way and the Bible as the perfect standard. A Christian would not do anything that goes against the principles of Christianity, to the Christian, the Bible is the ultimate guide and truth. Any thing against the principles of the Bible is against the principle of god. same way the Muslims pledge not to go against the principles of Islam, anything against the principle of Quran is against the principle of god.


What this pledge is stating is equivalent to the Christian praying 'thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.'

Or 'to serve Nigeria with all my strength, to uphold its unity, its honour and glory'

They want Allah's kingdom to be the only kingdom, the same way the Christians want Yahweh's kingdom to be the only kingdom.

They want to uphold the honour and glory of Islam.

They pledge allegiance to god's Kingdom the same way a Christian pledges allegiance to god's Kingdom.

How is a pledge of allegiance to the authority over you dangerous?


Nigerian christians are full of double standards. They are even worse in this aspect because the way they demonize traditionalists and atheists is way too much for me and yet they are the only tolerant ones. They say that jesus is the ONLY way but you dare not say that Islam is the only way. isnt this hypocrisy?

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Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by Primesky(m): 8:06am On Apr 19, 2018
Gggg102:
How is this different from making a pledge of allegiance to your country. It follows the manner any pledge of allegiance would. It's not different from the national pledge except Muslim's see Islam as a higher authority to man's government.

The see man's work as fallible and god's work as perfect. They see any other government/theory that is not god given as an imperfection. This is not so different from how a Christian sees god.

The Christians see god's way as perfect and the way of man at best is foolishness and sinful.

The Muslim accepts god's way as the only way and the Quran as the only perfect standard.

The same way a Christian accepts god's way as the only way and the Bible as the perfect standard. A Christian would not do anything that goes against the principles of Christianity, to the Christian, the Bible is the ultimate guide and truth. Any thing against the principles of the Bible is against the principle of god. same way the Muslims pledge not to go against the principles of Islam, anything against the principle of Quran is against the principle of god.


What this pledge is stating is equivalent to the Christian praying 'thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.'

Or 'to serve Nigeria with all my strength, to uphold its unity, its honour and glory'

They want Allah's kingdom to be the only kingdom, the same way the Christians want Yahweh's kingdom to be the only kingdom.

They want to uphold the honour and glory of Islam.

They pledge allegiance to god's Kingdom the same way a Christian pledges allegiance to god's Kingdom.

How is a pledge of allegiance to the authority over you dangerous?


That's true, everybody wants his way of worship to supersede that of others. But should you use force?

If a Muslim converts to Christianity, the Koran admonishes that the person be killed. But is not so with Christians! Shouldn't people choose which God and how to worship? A marriage made by force is not genuine and doesn't last. So also is a forceful faith.

The song in question is radical in that, it clearly calls on the boys and girls to prepare for Jihad. Let me ask you, is Jihad not a war against non Muslims? Convert or be killed? Now, should Christians also adopt that lifestyle of convert or be killed now, where will both you the Muslims and Christians stay to worship their God? How many persons will be alive to worship what?

This is nothing but wicked mind programming.

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Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by nans24(m): 8:09am On Apr 19, 2018
Gggg102:
How is a pledge of allegiance to the authority over you dangerous?

What are you saying? Did you even read the poem at all? Did you read the tweets and how shocked must of them were to realize what they were signing?

They want their Quran to be the Constitution...and not laws made by men.Is that not rebellion? And from what we know about
the jihad loyalists, they are ready to kill any who doesn't follow that law from the Quran.They are ready to kill for their kingdom.This is a direct contrast with what the Christians believe. They are told to be in subjection to their Superior authority. They Respect those in authority and they don't attack or kill anyone who doesn't believe in the Bible or in their kingdom.

Please don't compare the allegiance of a jihadist to that of a Christian.

angry

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Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by Anas09: 8:11am On Apr 19, 2018
abduljabbar4:


Nigerian christians are full of double standards. They are even worse in this aspect because the way they demonize traditionalists and atheists is way too much for me and yet they are the only tolerant ones. They say that jesus is the ONLY way but you dare not say that Islam is the only way. isnt this hypocrisy?
There can not be two 'only ways'.

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Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by abduljabbar4(m): 8:15am On Apr 19, 2018
Primesky:


That's true, everybody wants his way of worship to supersede that of others. But should you use force?

If a Muslim converts to Christianity, your Koran admonishes that the person be killed. But is not so with Christians! Shouldn't people choose which God and how to worship? A marriage made by force is not genuine and doesn't last. So also is a forceful faith.

The song in question is radical in that, it clearly calls on the boys and girls to prepare for Jihad. Let me ask you, is Jihad not a war against non Muslims? Convert or be killed? Now, should Christians also adopt that lifestyle of convert or be killed now, where will both you the Muslims and Christians stay to worship their God?

This is nothing but wicked mind programming.

What is the penalty for treason? your post reeks of ignorance. Islam is attached to the state and leaving Islam is treated as treason in Islamic countries.

You also showed ignorance in your definition of jihad. It means striving in the cause of Allah (fighting against evil thoughts, defending Islam or attracting people to Islam through peaceful preaching)
Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by Butterflyleo: 8:15am On Apr 19, 2018
Gggg102:


The word jihad appears frequently in the Quran with and without military connotations,[10] often in the idiomatic expression "striving in the path of God
(al-jihad fi sabil Allah ) ". [1



In the modern era, the notion of jihad has lost its jurisprudential relevance and instead given rise to an ideological and political discourse. [7] While modernist Islamic scholars have emphasized defensive and non-military aspects of jihad, some Islamists have advanced aggressive interpretations that go beyond the classical theory. [7]
Jihad is classified into inner ("greater"wink jihad, which involves a struggle against one's own base impulses, and external ("lesser"wink jihad, which is further subdivided into jihad of the pen/tongue (debate or persuasion) and jihad of the sword. [1






violent jihad was also in the past. it was during a time of war, now Islam emphasizes peaceful jihad.

also Christianity's violent propagation happened after the new testament.
so it isn't that past. it is part of Christian history.


saying the Quran supports violence today is equivalent to saying the Bible supports violence today because of the recorded violence in them.


There is no violence in Christianity. There is in Judaism. Learn to draw the line. Anyone who claimed to be violent AS A Christian is simply deceiving himself.

Do you wish to read what the Quran says about Jihad directly?

Muslims themselves know they do not joke with the teachings of Muhammad and they cannot deny the violence inherent in it. This is why Isis, bokoharam and other terror organisations say other who do not practice the full version of the Quran is not a true Muslim and they are right and this is why the will always have people willing to join them in their jihad.

They back this up with the below verse from the Quran

The (true) believers are those only who believe in Allah and His messenger and afterward doubt not, but strive (jihad) their wealth and their lives for the cause of Allah. Such are the sincere.
Quran 49:15

Chapter 9 of the Quran is the last major chapter of the Quran to be composed, and its most expansively violent chapter. the context of the Quranic verse says “Slay the infidels wherever you find them” on pages 617-619.

There it makes clear that not just the one tribe of polytheists who broke a treaty, but all polytheists would have to leave Arabia or be slaughtered. Those who had broken the treaty and shown hostility with Muslims “should be killed for it,” those who had a general truce with Muslims would be given four months, and those who had a treaty with Muslims for a set term would be allowed to complete their term, but after that they were at risk of being slain by the command of the Quran.


The history of Muhammad and his message was all about aggression and holy war (jihad) and a core of those who call themselves (true Muslims) know this and cannot deny it. What you see happening today regarding intellectual jihad is them simply trying to pait Islam in a good light due to its many bashings. However even those who try to paint it so will not hesitate to be violent with anyone who calls Muhammad names.

This evidence is all over the world.

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Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by abduljabbar4(m): 8:17am On Apr 19, 2018
Anas09:

There can not be two 'only ways'.

So does that mean its right for you to say that your way is the right path but im being a violent criminal for saying that my own way is right? come on
Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by Butterflyleo: 8:20am On Apr 19, 2018
abduljabbar4:


So does that mean its right for you to say that your way is the right path but im being a violent criminal for saying that my own way is right? come on

You are showing your way is not the way due to your violent conducts towards any who is not Muslim and even to anyone who was once Muslim and openly recants.

What is the punishment for apostasy according to Islam?

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Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by Gggg102(m): 8:27am On Apr 19, 2018
nans24:


What are you saying? Did you even read the poem at all? Did you read the tweets and how shocked must of them were to realize what they were signing?

They want their Quran to be the Constitution...and not laws made by men.Is that not rebellion? And from what we know about
the jihad loyalists, they are ready to kill any who doesn't follow that law from the Quran.They are ready to kill for their kingdom.This is a direct contrast with what the Christians believe. They are told to be in subjection to their Superior authority. They Respect those in authority and they don't attack or kill anyone who doesn't believe in the Bible or in their kingdom.

Please don't compare the allegiance of a jihadist to that of a Christian.

angry


they are MUSLIMS, the Quran is their authority. they want to live by the law god made himself not by manmade laws.


the Israelites were living by the laws god gave them not manmade law.


the Christian lives by god's law. god's law is the ultimate to the Christian. manmade laws are secondary. that's the meaning of 'thy kingdom come '. they want to be ruled according to god's Kingdom. if Nigeria legalizes homosexuality for instance, Christians won't follow that law because it goes against their primary constitution, which is god's law.

the Muslims have god's law as their primary constitution.


it is not rebellion, they are showing their first and highest allegiance. their Quran is god's word, man's law cannot be superior.

answer this:

are you Nigerian before Christian or are you Christian before nigerian?



nobody says it is violent. jihad can be peaceful.
the time of violent jihad was in Quranic times.

Christians also killed for god's kingdom. do you hold it against them. Christians had their jihad.

lol! Christians don't attack people who don't believe in their religion.
what about the Muslims?
what about pagans?
what about homosexuals?

where is the respect in denying the rights of homosexuals?

where is the respect in destroying shrines of pagans?

where is the respect in calling other beliefs evil because they are not the same with the Bible?


both allegiances are the same.
the allegiance never mentioned violence or hinted at violence.
Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by Dalam0n: 8:37am On Apr 19, 2018
The virulent type of Islam practiced in the northern part of Nigeria is almost on the same level with countries like Pakistan and Afghanistan.

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Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by abduljabbar4(m): 8:52am On Apr 19, 2018
Butterflyleo:


You are showing your way is not the way due to your violent conducts towards any who is not Muslim and even to anyone who was once Muslim and openly recants.

What is the punishment for apostasy according to Islam?

so what about the pastors that go about destroying shrines? the bloody crusades? The destruction of the canaanutes? we all have bad eggs. The Quran teaches muslims to be kind to others so you cant blame Islam because of some criminals that misquote it and go about killing people. There are 1.6 billion muslims in the world and the actions of a few thousand terrorists cant represent Islam unlesd you want to display your usual hypocrisy

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Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by Gggg102(m): 9:08am On Apr 19, 2018
Butterflyleo:


There is no violence in Christianity. There is in Judaism. Learn to draw the line. Anyone who claimed to be violent AS A Christian is simply deceiving himself.

Do you wish to read what the Quran says about Jihad directly?

Muslims themselves know they do not joke with the teachings of Muhammad and they cannot deny the violence inherent in it. This is why Isis, bokoharam and other terror organisations say other who do not practice the full version of the Quran is not a true Muslim and they are right and this is why the will always have people willing to join them in their jihad.

They back this up with the below verse from the Quran



Chapter 9 of the Quran is the last major chapter of the Quran to be composed, and its most expansively violent chapter. the context of the Quranic verse says “Slay the infidels wherever you find them” on pages 617-619.

There it makes clear that not just the one tribe of polytheists who broke a treaty, but all polytheists would have to leave Arabia or be slaughtered. Those who had broken the treaty and shown hostility with Muslims “should be killed for it,” those who had a general truce with Muslims would be given four months, and those who had a treaty with Muslims for a set term would be allowed to complete their term, but after that they were at risk of being slain by the command of the Quran.


The history of Muhammad and his message was all about aggression and holy war (jihad) and a core of those who call themselves (true Muslims) know this and cannot deny it. What you see happening today regarding intellectual jihad is them simply trying to pait Islam in a good light due to its many bashings. However even those who try to paint it so will not hesitate to be violent with anyone who calls Muhammad names.

This evidence is all over the world.


lol! no violence in Christianity...

it's like you've never heard of the middle ages.

what happened between AD 33 and AD 2018


'I am a radical for Jesus' is a pledge of allegiance that implies violence.


you believe that isis and Boko Haram are the true muslims because that's what furthers your agenda.

the Muslims say bokoharam and Isis are not Muslims but brainwashed people who misinterpret the Quran.


it seems quoting out of contest is not an issue when you are the one doing it.


well, the Bible says:

the violent takes the kingdom of god by force.

if you have a stubborn child, stone him to death.

if someone worships another god, stone him to death.

happy are those who dash the unbelievers against the rocks.

slay infants and men and women who have not known men but preserve virgins for yourselves.

the lord causes good and evil.

god in the bible incited wars against nations that were doing their own thing and even wiped out some of them completely. e. g Jericho.

god wiped out a nation because the people said no out of fear when the Israelites asked to pass.
how is this different from Fulani herdsmen killing people who told them they can't graze on their land out of fear?


Christian missionaries forced people to convert and punished those who refused conversion.

so it's bad when Allah does it but it is good when Yahweh does it.

when Yahweh chased the indigenous people of a land out of their land and killed them so that Israelites can move in was it different?

when Yahweh instructed Israelites to go to war with neighboring nations and destroy them except they agree to become slaves was it different?

when Christian missionaries took over lands by conquest in the name of god and forced people to convert was it different?

haven't followers of god; Israelites, jews and Christians all killed those who don't believe in the same god as them?


the history of the Israelites and the spread of Christianity is filled with conquest and war.
the Israelites dominated by wars in the old testament and complete hatred for other nations, Christianity dominated by conquest, forced conversion by making only Christianity legal and outlawing all other religions and holy wars.
Christians know this and cannot deny it. the false narrative of a peaceful Christianity is a mask to cover up what happened in the middle ages.
Christians won't hesitate to bash anyone who disrespects their beliefs while bashing other beliefs.

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Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by Gggg102(m): 9:15am On Apr 19, 2018
Primesky:


That's true, everybody wants his way of worship to supersede that of others. But should you use force?

If a Muslim converts to Christianity, the Koran admonishes that the person be killed. But is not so with Christians! Shouldn't people choose which God and how to worship? A marriage made by force is not genuine and doesn't last. So also is a forceful faith.

The song in question is radical in that, it clearly calls on the boys and girls to prepare for Jihad. Let me ask you, is Jihad not a war against non Muslims? Convert or be killed? Now, should Christians also adopt that lifestyle of convert or be killed now, where will both you the Muslims and Christians stay to worship their God? How many persons will be alive to worship what?

This is nothing but wicked mind programming.


you are lucky to be born in this time.

if you were born a thousand years ago, you wouldn't live to tell the tale of how you converted from Christianity.

Christianity was a state religion. being a Christian was compulsory.

Yahweh advocated compulsory religion for the Israelites also. so you could not convert if you were born before Christ. you would have been killed.


jihad isn't necessarily violent.

I am a radical for Jesus is a radical song.

'onward Christian soldiers marching unto war' is a radical song it calls Christians to prepare for war.

so is 'hold the fort' a war song.


'wall of jericho' glamorizes the death of innocent people.

so do other Christian songs.
Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by Gggg102(m): 9:17am On Apr 19, 2018
Anas09:
There can not be two 'only ways'.

then muslims say Islam is the only way.
so that should mean Christianity is a fraud.
Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by Gggg102(m): 9:21am On Apr 19, 2018
Butterflyleo:


You are showing your way is not the way due to your violent conducts towards any who is not Muslim and even to anyone who was once Muslim and openly recants.

What is the punishment for apostasy according to Islam?


the punishment for apostasy was death in the old testament. does that means the old testament is not the way and was a fraud?

the punishment for apostasy in Christianity in the middle ages was death. does that mean the middle ages showed Christianity isn't the way and also a fraud?

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Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by Anas09: 10:30am On Apr 19, 2018
abduljabbar4:


So does that mean its right for you to say that your way is the right path but im being a violent criminal for saying that my own way is right? come on
I didn't say, Jesus said. If you have a problem with that. take it out on Him

Your way is killing and maiming people to establish it. look around the world.

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Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by Anas09: 10:31am On Apr 19, 2018
abduljabbar4:


So does that mean its right for you to say that your way is the right path but im being a violent criminal for saying that my own way is right? come on
Re: Man Share Dangerous Islamic Poem They Were Made To Recite In Primary School, by Primesky(m): 10:50am On Apr 19, 2018
abduljabbar4:


What is the penalty for treason? your post reeks of ignorance. Islam is attached to the state and leaving Islam is treated as treason in Islamic countries.

You also showed ignorance in your definition of jihad. It means striving in the cause of Allah (fighting against evil thoughts, defending Islam or attracting people to Islam through peaceful preaching)

Oh really?, wow! Please tell me more.

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