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Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by finalboss(m): 5:17pm On Aug 18, 2019
A better question would be why would a loving God kill children in the first place.

This is what the bible says.

(4 Kings 2:23-24)

2.So the waters were healed unto this day, according to the saying of Elisha which he spake.

23 And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.

24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.

If I thought that story was anything more than a myth, I would be aghast. How could modern Christians believe in a God who would do this to little children?

Some people realise how embarrassing this passage is for theism and seek to mitigate the impact by saying that the victims were youths or young men, not little children — as if that should make a difference.

Although I believe this event never really happened, I do not support a religion that would delight in a story about the divine killing of little children angry

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Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by MuttleyLaff: 5:29pm On Aug 18, 2019
finalboss:
A better question would be why would a loving God kill children in the first place.

This is what the bible says.

(4 Kings 2:22-24)
22.So the waters were healed unto this day, according to the saying of Elisha which he spake.
23 And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.
24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.
1/ Where do you read in all there, that God sent two bears to maul them kids to death, erhn?
2/ A much better question would be, is God less, a loving God, watching as Jews and Co, planned and then eventually killed His Son in the first place?

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Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by budaatum: 5:33pm On Aug 18, 2019
finalboss:

This is what the bible says.
You lie sir! The Bible never said anything! What you have is what someone wrote in a book called the Bible and which you read and now claim was an action by God.

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Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by finalboss(m): 5:38pm On Aug 18, 2019
budaatum:

You lie sir! The Bible never said anything! What you have is what someone wrote in a book called the Bible and which you read and now claim was an action by God.

someone ?? grin

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Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by MuttleyLaff: 5:45pm On Aug 18, 2019
finalboss:
someone ?? grin
The hunter becomes the hunt grin
Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by budaatum: 5:46pm On Aug 18, 2019
finalboss:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.biblegateway.com/passage/%3fsearch=2%2bKings%2b2:23-24&version=KJV&interface=amp
I happen to know you are intelligent, and not lazy. Is it not true that what is written there are the words of some human? Would you in fact deny that it is the sort of thing that the sort of lazy person I responded to here might write? Have you been infected with that persons disease?

Explain to me where God was involved.
Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by Chidorx60(m): 6:48pm On Aug 18, 2019
budaatum:

I happen to know you are intelligent, and not lazy. Is it not true that what is written there are the words of some human? Would you in fact deny that it is the sort of thing that the sort of lazy person I responded to here might write? Have you been infected with that persons disease?

Explain to me where God was involved.
oga budataaum are u making sense na,
Please reread your post again

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Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by Chidorx60(m): 6:52pm On Aug 18, 2019
budaatum:

I happen to know you are intelligent, and not lazy. Is it not true that what is written there are the words of some human? Would you in fact deny that it is the sort of thing that the sort of lazy person I responded to here might write? Have you been infected with that persons disease?

Explain to me where God was involved.
oga budataaum are u making sense now
Please reread your post again and check if their is any atom on sense their,


For the question ,God is a loving God but he is also one to execute judgement on defaulters and also at that period their really was no special grace available to people as Jesus had not done his messiach work ,so their punishment was passed immediately.

I advise u all to repent and stop Battering words,the end time is near whether u believe or not.

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Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by budaatum: 6:53pm On Aug 18, 2019
Chidorx60:
oga budataaum are u making sense na,
Please reread your post again
Why should I reread my own post again when I wrote it, read it and posted it? Does it not make sense to you, or just don't you like the sense it makes?

You read it and tell me what you understand by it.
Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by budaatum: 6:57pm On Aug 18, 2019
Chidorx60:


For the question ,God is a loving God but he is also one to execute judgement on defaulters and also at that period their really was no special grace available to people as Jesus had not done his messiach work ,so their punishment was passed immediately.

I advise u all to repent and stop Battering words,the end time is near whether u believe or not.
Don't advise me. It is very clear that the wages of sin is death, but God does not go about killing sinners so I don't know why anyone would be peddling some juvenile theology as if the person they talk to were two years old! If you can't communicate on adult level do let me know.

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Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by Chidorx60(m): 6:59pm On Aug 18, 2019
budaatum:

Why should I reread my own post again when I wrote it, read it and posted it? Does it not make sense to you, or just don't you like the sense it makes?

You read it and tell me what you understand by it.
your philosophies would have made sense if I was a shallow Christian,but I will put it to you straight I am not a shallow Christian,
I have seen the power behind the word u claim to have been written by people.

I have experienced the workings of Jesus Christ the righteous, I am not a religious fanatic but a declarer of the wonderful things I have seen and heard.

So their is no making sense from what you said Sir

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Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by Raysleek: 7:02pm On Aug 18, 2019
Were you there? And do you know the circumstances surrounding it? Can a clay dictate to the porter?
Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by Chidorx60(m): 7:06pm On Aug 18, 2019
budaatum:

Don't advise me. It is very clear that the wages of sin is death, but God does not go about killing sinners so I don't know why anyone would be peddling some juvenile theology as if the person they talk to were two years old! If you can't communicate on adult level do let me know.
despite the fact that u may lack the capacity to know the rhema of the word I will explain y the kids were destroyed.
Aside from non coverage of the forgiveness of all sins by the blood of Jesus ,

The offenses committed by the kids was one that was unforgivable because,the newly appointed prophet opened his mouth to curse them,God did not take action alone,due to his eagerness to make Elisha know that he has placed him on a powerful office ,God validated the words of his prophet,when a prophet pronounces a Curse it is a sure thing for it to come to being except God decides not to honour it,but in this case he did
Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by budaatum: 7:09pm On Aug 18, 2019
Chidorx60:
your philosophies would have made sense if I was a shallow Christian,but I will put it to you straight I am not a shallow Christian,
I have seen the power behind the word u claim to have been written by people.

I have experienced the workings of Jesus Christ the righteous, I am not a religious fanatic but a declarer of the wonderful things I have seen and heard.

So their is no making sense from what you said Sir
You mean, "it makes no sense to you", and so be it. You would not be the first to elevate the Bible to God status and bow down and worship it instead of reading and understanding what is written in it. If you did you would understand the Power of the Word and would not dare disobey the following rule!

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God [am] a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth [generation] of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

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Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by Shepherd00: 7:10pm On Aug 18, 2019
finalboss:
A better question would be why would a loving God kill children in the first place.

This is what the bible says.

(4 Kings 2:23-24)

2.So the waters were healed unto this day, according to the saying of Elisha which he spake.

23 And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.

24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.

If I thought that story was anything more than a myth, I would be aghast. How could modern Christians believe in a God who would do this to little children?

Some people realise how embarrassing this passage is for theism and seek to mitigate the impact by saying that the victims were youths or young men, not little children — as if that should make a difference.

Although I believe this event never really happened, I do not support a religion that would delight in a story about the divine killing of little children angry

Support God's actions? These kids really do not have the slightest idea of who God is, really.

Listen, even if it was God who sent the beast to kill those kids, He needs no man's approval.


The reason you ask this question is not because you care for those kids, but because you see yourself in those kids who insult God and the people of God, but wants no reprisal.

You want to commit your sins and get away with them.

Sorry sir. Though hand join in hand, the wicked shall not be unpunished
Proverbs 11:21a

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Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by Shepherd00: 7:12pm On Aug 18, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
1/ Where do you read in all there, that God sent two bears to maul them kids to death, erhn?
2/ A much better question would be, is God less, a loving God, watching as Jews and Co, planned and then eventually killed His Son in the first place?
Funny enough, Elisha didn't even invoke the power of God to destroyed the kids. He barely cursed them in the name of the Lord.

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Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by Chidorx60(m): 7:12pm On Aug 18, 2019
budaatum:

You mean, "it makes no sense to you", and so be it. You would not be the first to elevate the Bible to God status and bow down and worship it instead of reading and understanding what is written in it. If you did you would understand the Power of the Word and would not dare disobey the following rule!

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God [am] a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth [generation] of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by Chidorx60(m): 7:13pm On Aug 18, 2019
budaatum:

You mean, "it makes no sense to you", and so be it. You would not be the first to elevate the Bible to God status and bow down and worship it instead of reading and understanding what is written in it. If you did you would understand the Power of the Word and would not dare disobey the following rule!

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God [am] a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth [generation] of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
loooool
U think I am just obeying some bunch of rules strapped up together,for u info sir,I know the God I am serving,I am a saint bought by the blood of the lord Jesus and I know I have a place in the bosom of my father.

And sir who are u,your personal text is of that of a moslem,ur moniker is bhudist and here u are quoting the holy bible ,sir do u know ur stand
Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by Chidorx60(m): 7:17pm On Aug 18, 2019
Shepherd00:

Funny enough, Elisha didn't even invoke the power of God to destroyed the kids. He barely cursed them in the name of the Lord.

Its pretty much the same thing, anything done in GODS name by his prophet is calling for his intervention,
Except maybe u think invoking God is only calling out fiery fire balls from the heavens

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Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by Shepherd00: 7:21pm On Aug 18, 2019
budaatum:

Don't advise me. It is very clear that the wages of sin is death, but God does not go about killing sinners so I don't know why anyone would be peddling some juvenile theology as if the person they talk to were two years old! If you can't communicate on adult level do let me know.
The death that sin brings about is not the physical death, it's spiritual. What the Bible calls Second death. Everyone, including Christians die the physical dead, not the Second.

SIN DOES NOT KILL PHYSICALLY, IT KILLS SPIRITUALLY.

God does not need to go about killing Sinners, for anyone who is not in Christ is dead already.

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Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by Shepherd00: 7:27pm On Aug 18, 2019
Chidorx60:


Its pretty much the same thing, anything done in GODS name by his prophet is calling for his intervention,
Except maybe u think invoking God is only calling out fiery fire balls from the heavens
What I mean is, Elisha didn't tell God specifically the manner to response to his supplication.

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Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by budaatum: 7:28pm On Aug 18, 2019
Shepherd00:

The death that sin brings about is not the physical death, it's spiritual. What the Bible calls Second death. Everyone, including Christians die the physical dead, not the Second.

SIN DOES NOT KILL PHYSICALLY, IT KILLS SPIRITUALLY.

God does not need to go about killing Sinners, for anyone who is not in Christ is dead already.
No one is suggesting the death is physical, Shepherd, please get with the program!

The question I pose here is whether God goes about spiritually killing sinners, or whether the sin itself is the spiritual killer.
Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by budaatum: 7:34pm On Aug 18, 2019
Chidorx60:


And sir who are u,your personal text is of that of a moslem,ur moniker is bhudist and here u are quoting the holy bible ,sir do u know ur stand
You can make up who you want me to be if you so wish and if that is your concern here. I am not here to peddle my own righteousness or lack of thereof.

You might want to read about hubris here.

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Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by MuttleyLaff: 7:36pm On Aug 18, 2019
Shepherd00:
The death that sin brings about is not the physical death, it's spiritual. What the Bible calls Second death. Everyone, including Christians die the physical dead, not the Second.

SIN DOES NOT KILL PHYSICALLY, IT KILLS SPIRITUALLY.

God does not need to go about killing Sinners, for anyone who is not in Christ is dead already.
"When Adam sinned, sin entered the world. Adam’s sin brought death, so death spread to everyone, for everyone sinned."
- Romans 5:12

"So you see, just as death came into the world through a man, now the resurrection from the dead has begun through another man."
- 1 Corinthians 15:21

Everything you've so far written on this page I concur with except for this particular comment about physical death. The death that sin brought was both physical and spiritual death. It was delayed physical death and instantaneousness spiritual death. Death essentially, in both cases is a dividing line, a separation as it were to speak
Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by Chidorx60(m): 7:44pm On Aug 18, 2019
budaatum:

You can make up who you want me to be if you so wish and if that is your concern here. I am not here to peddle my own righteousness or lack of thereof.

You might want to read about hubris here.
Sir u identity is one out of the 7 billion or more people on planet earth, I shouldn't really be bortherd If you choose not to disclose anything about ur beliefs, so you are free to keep ur righteousness or unrighteousness to urself.
Thank you

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Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by orunto27: 7:51pm On Aug 18, 2019
They were 42 Demons. God punish The Wombs that bore them.
Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by budaatum: 7:53pm On Aug 18, 2019
Chidorx60:

Sir u identity is one out of the 7 billion or more people on planet earth, I shouldn't really be bortherd If you choose not to disclose anything about ur beliefs, so you are free to keep ur righteousness or unrighteousness to urself.
Thank you
You have not been here long enough to know buda, I take it. If you had, you'd know that buda is more of an Understander and a Knower or a Seek to Understand and Know, and most definitely not a believer, for I see no merit in what satan does!

Do note that this is a public forum where anyone is free to state their beliefs, opinions, ideas, crap, etc. And if you wish to not see it you are free to cover your eyes.

Here is a thread that expresses my view of belief.
Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by Shepherd00: 7:53pm On Aug 18, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
"When Adam sinned, sin entered the world. Adam’s sin brought death, so death spread to everyone, for everyone sinned."
- Romans 5:12

"So you see, just as death came into the world through a man, now the resurrection from the dead has begun through another man."
- 1 Corinthians 15:21

Everything you've so far written on this page I concur with except for this particular comment about physical death. The death that sin brought was both physical and spiritual death. It was delayed physical death and instantaneousness spiritual death. Death essentiall in both cases is a dividing line, a separation as it were to speak

Okay.
Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by MuttleyLaff: 7:54pm On Aug 18, 2019
Shepherd00:
Okay.

budaatum:
No one is suggesting the death is physical, Shepherd, please get with the program!

The question I pose here is whether God goes about spiritually killing sinners, or whether the sin itself is the spiritual killer.
When the electricity channelled to an iron is switched off after the iron is being hot, though there is no more electricity generating to the iron, it will still be hot due to residual heat. The heat that remains or lingers after turning off the electricity flow to the iron up to when it eventualy turns stone cold, is tantamount to physical death and the actual instance of turning off the electrictity flow to the iron, is tantamount to spiritual death

Sin leads to separation, death whether physical or spiritual is a separation and/or dividing line. There is no two ways to this rule. Ezekiel 18:20 states that: "The soul that sinneth, it shall die."

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Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by Shepherd00: 8:03pm On Aug 18, 2019
budaatum:

No one is suggesting the death is physical, Shepherd, please get with the program!

The question I pose here is whether God goes about spiritually killing sinners, or whether the sin itself is the spiritual killer.
Sin is the Spiritual killer.

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Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by MuttleyLaff: 8:04pm On Aug 18, 2019
Shepherd00:
Sin is the Spiritual killer.
Sin is both the physical and spiritual killer
Re: Do You Support God's Decision Of Sending 2 Bears To Maul 42 Kids To Death by Shepherd00: 8:07pm On Aug 18, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
Sin is both the physical and spiritual killer
Yes, if we must go the context you drew. But, the context with which the pages the " wages of sin is dead" was taken is Spiritual dead because wages are rewards.

Oh, Well. I give up.

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