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Replying An Atheist! by Udemeeyenabasi: 8:16am On Apr 27, 2018
QUESTION:
Let me learn from you, can you tell me what can happen to someone God has abandoned but can never happen to someone God hasn't? please give answers based on something testable and verifiable eg "Only someone God has abandoned would fail a school exam/get hit by stray bullet/be electrocuted/burn alive"


ANSWER:
It is true that the righteous, being in this corrupt world, may pass through difficult times just like the unrighteous do. It is what King David terms " passing through the valley of shadow of death" (Psalm 23:4). However, the difference between the righteous and the unrighteous is that God is with the righteous and all evils he may encounter are just as shadows, they can't hurt him or her because God is with him. The righteous may fall seven times but God will lift him up each time. When the unrighteous falls just once, he or she is consumed by the situation and cannot recover. I hope you realize soon enough that you need God in your life!

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Re: Replying An Atheist! by prinzfavian(m): 8:36am On Apr 27, 2018
Hmmmm
Re: Replying An Atheist! by falcon01: 8:41am On Apr 27, 2018
for once I thought I could see a reasonable answer.

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Re: Replying An Atheist! by Seun(m): 9:06am On Apr 27, 2018
Udemeeyenabasi:
QUESTION: However, the difference between the righteous and the unrighteous is that God is with the righteous and all evils he may encounter are just as shadows, [b]they can't hurt him or he[/b]r because God is with him.
What kind of hurt are you saying the righteous cannot experience? We all know that Christians can be physically and emotionally hurt. Even the Jesus of Mark was emotionally hurt when he faced crucifiction. He cried with a loud voice “My God, why have you forsaken me?”

The righteous may fall seven times but God will lift him up each time. When the unrighteous falls just once, he or she is consumed by the situation and cannot recover. I hope you realize soon enough that you need God in your life!
What about the millions of Christians who died as a result of their problems? If your situation leads to death, that means you did not recover.

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Re: Replying An Atheist! by Udemeeyenabasi: 9:13am On Apr 27, 2018
Hmmm...the problem some people have is that they make their arguments only from the one sided point of those who died or had difficult times rather than on the testimonies of those who God delivered.
Re: Replying An Atheist! by sKeetz(m): 11:43am On Apr 27, 2018
Udemeeyenabasi:
QUESTION:
Let me learn from you, can you tell me what can happen to someone God has abandoned but can never happen to someone God hasn't? please give answers based on something testable and verifiable eg "Only someone God has abandoned would fail a school exam/get hit by stray bullet/be electrocuted/burn alive"


ANSWER:
It is true that the righteous, being in this corrupt world, may pass through difficult times just like the unrighteous do. It is what King David terms " passing through the valley of shadow of death" (Psalm 23:4). However, the difference between the righteous and the unrighteous is that God is with the righteous and all evils he may encounter are just as shadows, they can't hurt him or her because God is with him. The righteous may fall seven times but God will lift him up each time. When the unrighteous falls just once, he or she is consumed by the situation and cannot recover. I hope you realize soon enough that you need God in your life!

Further information @ www.geraldinyang.blogspot.com

Re: Replying An Atheist! by Udemeeyenabasi: 12:44pm On Apr 27, 2018
That statue's posture...the posture of one who has lost an argument...Hahaha...
Re: Replying An Atheist! by awesomeJ(m): 3:37am On May 09, 2018
Seun:

What kind of hurt are you saying the righteous cannot experience? We all know that Christians can be physically and emotionally hurt. Even the Jesus of Mark was emotionally hurt when he faced crucifiction. He cried with a loud voice “My God, why have you forsaken me?”


Jesus' cry was not cos of the crucifixion. A proof of that is in the fact that all his talks about his death with his disciples conveyed glad anticipation on his part. He never talked about his death sadly. So it couldn't have been the death that got to him.

It was the fact that He would be made SIN, and consequently suffer a momentary separation from God that hurt him.


Seun:

What about the millions of Christians who died as a result of their problems? If your situation leads to death, that means you did not recover.

He apparently wasn't referring to those "Christians" who die from situations, rather he talked about the likes of us who are guaranteed utter, perfect, and perpetual safety from all of life's troubles-Those of us who live in the manifestation of the scripture "a thousand may fall at your left, ten thousand at your right hand side, but none reaches to you"

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Re: Replying An Atheist! by sKeetz(m): 4:54am On May 09, 2018
awesomeJ:


Jesus' cry was not cos of the crucifixion. A proof of that is in the fact that all his talks about his death with his disciples conveyed glad anticipation on his part. He never talked about his death sadly. So it couldn't have been the death that got to him.

It was the fact that He would be made SIN, and consequently suffer a momentary separation from God that hurt him.




He apparently wasn't referring to those "Christians" who die from situations, rather he talked about the likes of us who are guaranteed utter, perfect, and perpetual safety from all of life's troubles-Those of us who live in the manifestation of the scripture "a thousand may fall at your left, ten thousand at your right hand side, but none reaches to you"

You sound like you were an eye witness to these events or was it revealed to you by the Holy spirit?
Re: Replying An Atheist! by Udemeeyenabasi: 11:44am On May 09, 2018
sKeetz:


You sound like you were an eye witness to these events or was it revealed to you by the Holy spirit?

With faith you really don't need to ask if you were ever a foetus in your mother's womb cos you just know you were there even though you cannot give a eye witness account of events in your mother's womb...
Re: Replying An Atheist! by frank317: 2:47pm On May 09, 2018
awesomeJ:


Jesus' cry was not cos of the crucifixion. A proof of that is in the fact that all his talks about his death with his disciples conveyed glad anticipation on his part. He never talked about his death sadly. So it couldn't have been the death that got to him.

It was the fact that He would be made SIN, and consequently suffer a momentary separation from God that hurt him.
Did Jesus feel hurt or not when he was crucified? Did he feel pain? Did he suffer for u on the cross of calvery?

Pls can u prove how his cry was all about his momentary seperation from God and not the painful nails in his fingers



He apparently wasn't referring to those "Christians" who die from situations, rather he talked about the likes of us who are guaranteed utter, perfect, and perpetual safety from all of life's troubles-Those of us who live in the manifestation of the scripture "a thousand may fall at your left, ten thousand at your right hand side, but none reaches to you"

Yes thats whats everything in the bible is all about... guarantee of perfection and perpetual safety from all life trouble... however the op's reply to his own question shows that this guarantee is a mirage..."the righteous may actually fall 7times... we all know how falling feels... no one falls in happiness.

To me, from his reply there still is no difference from the life of the righteous and that of an atheist. Christians die, atheists die
Christians fall, atheist fall
Fallen Christians (who didnt eventually die) rise, fallen atheists (who didnt eventually die) also rise.

Can u once again tell us the difference between the life of a christian and an atheist?

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Re: Replying An Atheist! by frank317: 2:51pm On May 09, 2018
Udemeeyenabasi:


With faith you really don't need to ask if you were ever a foetus in your mother's womb cos you just know you were there even though you cannot give a eye witness account of events in your mother's womb...

Knowing u were in ur mothers womb as a foetus is faith?
I am sorry to say, this is silly.
Do u think a two years old knew he was in his mothers womb? U dont think the knowledge comes from learning?
Do u even know what faith is? Do u have faith that u have five fingers?
How long shall we continue in ignorance?

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Re: Replying An Atheist! by sKeetz(m): 3:50pm On May 09, 2018
Udemeeyenabasi:


With faith you really don't need to ask if you were ever a foetus in your mother's womb cos you just know you were there even though you cannot give a eye witness account of events in your mother's womb...

Hahaha

Nice try but it's not the same thing. We see babies been born everyday, it doesn't need faith to believe that unlike words of Stone Age Middle East Normads.

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