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Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by GooseBump: 7:12am On Apr 29, 2018
I really don't understand this anymore, why is it that almost everything that happened in the Bible also occurred inside the Quran. Like Solomon and his wives, Moses, Jesus and a lot of them.

When this things were happening at that period ot time, was it also happening at the quranic way?
Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by Heartbender: 7:17am On Apr 29, 2018
;Dhahaha na today you know German machine and shinco?
Just ask them about the Qiyamah and who kills the ad-Dajjal, and you go see confusion.

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Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by izzou(m): 7:25am On Apr 29, 2018
Christianity happened ages before Mohammed was born

I see Mohammed as a messenger or someone who brought the message of God to the Arabian world.

While we may have different beliefs, they still preach the same message. That's LOVE and PEACE

So, it's not a matter of copying.

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Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by hakeem4(m): 7:40am On Apr 29, 2018
Quran copied the bible, while the bible copied the Jewish book. These books are just Middle Eastern myths

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Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by hezy4real01(m): 7:58am On Apr 29, 2018
Seriously I'm an advocate of who copied who! The point is Are we following what the Holy books says?
Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by iamgenius(m): 8:05am On Apr 29, 2018
GooseBump:
I really don't understand this anymore, why is it that almost everything that happened in the Bible also occurred inside the Quran. Like Solomon and his wives, Moses, Jesus and a lot of them.

When this things were happening at that period ot time, was it also happening at the quranic way?
Both religion stream from Abraham. Only one of them is the pure truth, the Quran. Bible is mixed with truth and lies.

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Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by Nobody: 9:21am On Apr 29, 2018
hakeem4:
Quran copied the bible, while the bible copied the Jewish book. These books are just Middle Eastern myths
Not true! Ancient Greek and the Romans not Jewish.
Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by hakeem4(m): 9:39am On Apr 29, 2018
aaronson:
Not true! Ancient Greek and the Romans not Jewish.
okay thanks for the correction
Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by Nobody: 9:43am On Apr 29, 2018
I'm just gonna break it down just so you catch a glimpse of the entirety of the Bible.

* Beginning if the Ancient Greek, that was when writing started but not dated documation at the time.

* From Ancient Greek down to the Roman empire era, A lot of wars, ruins, missing scrolls, arson, real event, foklores, fairytales, mythology, mythical characters etc occurred and those documentation is what we told referred to as the Bible. It NOT accurate because there wasn't no witness to validate stories in the Bible. And the Bible was written haphazardly, for example - what happened in 1992 was written followed by what happen In 2017 then goes back to 1997 to continue with no clear explanation, this why, questions like God created Adam and eve but who were other people in the world is still unanswered.

Now back to your question, Why do most religion has has same text.

That's because they got their original text from the same source for example the story of Jesus is folklore and the real event is odysious (Not sure I spelt it right but do your research), It's a character of a figure been born by a virgin mom.

For the most part, Christians and Muslim also got many text from the same source in Egypt too filled with mythical creature characters etc. And till date there are rooms in the Vatican filled with books not accessible by the public and the room is highly guarded. If those books were out in the public you truly know how FAKE religion is.

To further prove my points.

Have you ever asked yourself , why is the words in the Bible spelt different from English? like come cometh, Say sayeth etc. This is because of the translation from Latin and Greek to English.

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Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by enilove(m): 10:03am On Apr 29, 2018
iamgenius:
Both religion stream from Abraham. Only one of them is the pure truth, the Quran. Bible is mixed with truth and lies.

Which one always comes first, ORIGINAL OR FAKE ?

Muhammad and his followers had copies of the Bible from which they copied those stories you read in the Quran.

Volume 1, Book 11, Number 578:

Narrated Ibn 'Umar:

When the Muslims arrived at Medina, they used to assemble for the prayer, and used to guess the time for it. During those days, the practice of Adhan for the prayers had not been introduced yet. Once they discussed this problem regarding the call for prayer. Some people suggested the use of a bell like the Christians, others proposed a trumpet like the horn used by the Jews, but 'Umar was the first to suggest that a man should call (the people) for the prayer; so Allah's Apostle ordered Bilal to get up and pronounce the Adhan for prayers.

Even their prayer call was not from God but from Umar .
You can see that Muslims wanted to copy the Christians or the Jews regarding call for prayers during the beginning of Islam.

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Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by enilove(m): 10:43am On Apr 29, 2018
aaronson:
I'm just gonna break it down just so you catch a glimpse of the entirety of the Bible.

* Beginning if the Ancient Greek, that was when writing started but not dated documation at the time.

* From Ancient Greek down to the Roman empire era, A lot of wars, ruins, missing scrolls, arson, real event, foklores, fairytales, mythology, mythical characters etc occurred and those documentation is what we told referred to as the Bible. It NOT accurate because there wasn't no witness to validate stories in the Bible. And the Bible was written haphazardly, for example - what happened in 1992 was written followed by what happen In 2017 then goes back to 1997 to continue with no clear explanation, this why, questions like God created Adam and eve but who were other people in the world is still unanswered.

Now back to your question, Why do most religion has has same text.

That's because they got their original text from the same source for example the story of Jesus is folklore and the real event is odysious (Not sure I spelt it right but do your research), It's a character of a figure been born by a virgin mom.

For the most part, Christians and Muslim also got many text from the same source in Egypt too filled with mythical creature characters etc. And till date there are rooms in the Vatican filled with books not accessible by the public and the room is highly guarded. If those books were out in the public you truly know how FAKE religion is.

To further prove my points.

Have you ever asked yourself , why is the words in the Bible spelt different from English? like come cometh, Say sayeth etc. This is because of the translation from Latin and Greek to English.

TOTAL NONSENSE.

The First Bible ( Torah or the Old Testament ) was originally written in Hebrew , the language of the Israelites. This was kept by the Israelites for more than 1,500 years b4 it was translated to Koine Greek in 2nd or 3rd century BC.

Ex. The word "Genesis" is a Hebrew language meaning "beginning" or " Origin".

The new Testament was in Koine Greek.

Also , God did not create other humans after Adam and Eve. If you have questions in this regard just ask and don't assume that the Bible is not complete or correct.
Everything that is in the Bible is correct and perfect words of God.


Had it been there was no written documents like the Bible you people would have asked why it was not written down. But now that it is written , you are still looking for something to say.

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Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by harbjar(m): 2:09pm On Apr 29, 2018
Surah Al-Ankaboot, Verse 48:
وَمَا كُنتَ تَتْلُو مِن قَبْلِهِ مِن كِتَابٍ وَلَا تَخُطُّهُ بِيَمِينِكَ إِذًا لَّارْتَابَ الْمُبْطِلُونَ

Neither did you (O Muhammad SAW) read any book before it (this Quran), nor did you write any book (whatsoever) with your right hand. In that case, indeed, the followers of falsehood might have doubted.
(English - Mohsin Khan
Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by Nobody: 2:13pm On Apr 29, 2018
enilove:


TOTAL NONSENSE.

The First Bible ( Torah or the Old Testament ) was originally written in Hebrew , the language of the Israelites. This was kept by the Israelites for more than 1,500 years b4 it was translated to Koine Greek in 2nd or 3rd century BC.

Ex. The word "Genesis" is a Hebrew language meaning "beginning" or " Origin".

The new Testament was in Koine Greek.

Also , God did not create other humans after Adam and Eve. If you have questions in this regard just ask and don't assume that the Bible is not complete or correct.
Everything that is in the Bible is correct and perfect words of God.


Had it been there was no written documents like the Bible you people would have asked why it was not written down. But now that it is written , you are still looking for something to say.
I have just two questions to make you look like, you talking in cycle.
1- who are the Israelites?
2- Where do they come from?
Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by harbjar(m): 2:34pm On Apr 29, 2018
Surah Al-Ankaboot, Surah Al-Ankaboot, cry Verse 48:

وَمَا كُنتَ تَتْلُو مِن قَبْلِهِ مِن كِتَابٍ وَلَا تَخُطُّهُ بِيَمِينِكَ إِذًا لَّارْتَابَ الْمُبْطِلُونَ

Neither did you (O Muhammad SAW) read any book before it (this Quran), nor did you write any book (whatsoever) with your right hand. In that case, indeed, the followers of falsehood might have doubted.
(English - Mohsin Khan)
For more information click on the link http://www.islam101.com/religions/christianity/faq.htm
Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by enilove(m): 5:03pm On Apr 29, 2018
aaronson:
I have just two questions to make you look like, you talking in cycle.
1- who are the Israelites?
2- Where do they come from?


They are the children of Jacob.

They were born in Israel ( former cannan land ) and live in Israel till date

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Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by Nobody: 5:08pm On Apr 29, 2018
enilove:



They are the children of Jacob.

They were born in Israel ( former cannan land ) and live in Israel till date
To put it straight, Descendants of the Jews. Right?
Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by trapQ: 5:29pm On Apr 29, 2018
Who told you both religions preach the same message?

Who told you islam preaches love? Where did you hear that?? What verse of the Quran are Muslims commanded to love?
izzou:
Christianity happened ages before Mohammed was born

I see Mohammed as a messenger or someone who brought the message of God to the Arabian world.

While we may have different beliefs, they still preach the same message. That's LOVE and PEACE

So, it's not a matter of copying.

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Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by Maamin(m): 6:06pm On Apr 29, 2018
aaronson:
To put it straight, Descendants of the Jews. Right?

No! Jews are rather descendants of Israel(Jacob)

Point of correction undecided

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Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by Nobody: 6:09pm On Apr 29, 2018
Maamin:


No! Jews are rather descendants of Israel(Jacob)

Point of correction undecided
Yeah, it's the same toilet, different sh1t. But it's not you to reply, I'm in a conversation with enilove and waiting on the fellow to reply. Not you!
Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by Maamin(m): 6:14pm On Apr 29, 2018
enilove:


TOTAL NONSENSE.

The First Bible ( Torah or the Old Testament ) was originally written in Hebrew , the language of the Israelites. This was kept by the Israelites for more than 1,500 years b4 it was translated to Koine Greek in 2nd or 3rd century BC.

Ex. The word "Genesis" is a Hebrew language meaning "beginning" or " Origin".

The new Testament was in Koine Greek.

Also , God did not create other humans after Adam and Eve. If you have questions in this regard just ask and don't assume that the Bible is not complete or correct.
Everything that is in the Bible is correct and perfect words of God.


Had it been there was no written documents like the Bible you people would have asked why it was not written down. But now that it is written , you are still looking for something to say.

At the bold, the word "Genesis" is not Hebrew word but rather Greek word that means 'Origin'. The Hebrew word for Genesis is "Bereshit".

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Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by Maamin(m): 6:17pm On Apr 29, 2018
aaronson:
Yeah, it's the same toilet, different sh1t. But it's not you to reply, I'm in a conversation with enilove and waiting on the fellow to reply. Not you!

I corrected your misunderstanding, try to put on a coat of humility for once. undecided

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Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by Maamin(m): 6:33pm On Apr 29, 2018
aaronson:
I'm just gonna break it down just so you catch a glimpse of the entirety of the Bible.

* Beginning if the Ancient Greek, that was when writing started but not dated documation at the time.

* From Ancient Greek down to the Roman empire era, A lot of wars, ruins, missing scrolls, arson, real event, foklores, fairytales, mythology, mythical characters etc occurred and those documentation is what we told referred to as the Bible. It NOT accurate because there wasn't no witness to validate stories in the Bible. And the Bible was written haphazardly, for example - what happened in 1992 was written followed by what happen In 2017 then goes back to 1997 to continue with no clear explanation, this why, questions like God created Adam and eve but who were other people in the world is still unanswered.

Now back to your question, Why do most religion has has same text.

That's because they got their original text from the same source for example the story of Jesus is folklore and the real event is odysious (Not sure I spelt it right but do your research), It's a character of a figure been born by a virgin mom.

For the most part, Christians and Muslim also got many text from the same source in Egypt too filled with mythical creature characters etc. And till date there are rooms in the Vatican filled with books not accessible by the public and the room is highly guarded. If those books were out in the public you truly know how FAKE religion is.

To further prove my points.

Have you ever asked yourself , why is the words in the Bible spelt different from English? like come cometh, Say sayeth etc. This is because of the translation from Latin and Greek to English.

The bible was not written haphazardly but rather in chronological order having a Genesis (origin) to Revelation (end)

The words cometh, sayeth are old style of literature common in the early 400 A.D

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Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by Maamin(m): 6:40pm On Apr 29, 2018
harbjar:

Surah Al-Ankaboot, Surah Al-Ankaboot, cry Verse 48:

وَمَا كُنتَ تَتْلُو مِن قَبْلِهِ مِن كِتَابٍ وَلَا تَخُطُّهُ بِيَمِينِكَ إِذًا لَّارْتَابَ الْمُبْطِلُونَ

Neither did you (O Muhammad SAW) read any book before it (this Quran), nor did you write any book (whatsoever) with your right hand. In that case, indeed, the followers of falsehood might have doubted.
(English - Mohsin Khan)
For more information click on the link http://www.islam101.com/religions/christianity/faq.htm


You are right he did not read any book before the quran but he use to learn the Jewish and Christian scriptures from the Jews around him in those days.

The bible was canonised 600 years before the quran was. How comes the stories in the bible were found in the quran with some added spice? Hun! grin

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Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by harbjar(m): 7:51pm On Apr 29, 2018
Maamin:


You are right he did not read any book before the quran but he use to learn the Jewish and Christian scriptures from the Jews around him in those days.

The bible was canonised 600 years before the quran was. How comes the stories in the bible were found in the quran with some added spice? Hun! grin
Not with some added spice bruh. With corrections and giving us the true story.... Stories which doesnt befit the prophets of God eg lot committing incest ....
Genesis 19:32-37
[32]Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
[33]And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
[34]And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
[35]And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
[36]Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.
[37]And the firstborn bare a son, and called his name Moab: the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day.
And other filthy dirty attributes of the prophets of God including jesus were corrected by God in his final revelation (Qur'an).. . So be careful of what you say and get your self the final testament of God to see the truth
Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by Uyi168(m): 8:00pm On Apr 29, 2018
hezy4real01:
Seriously I'm an advocate of who copied who! The point is Are we following what the Holy books says?
..There is nothing holy about the holybooks
Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by CodeTemplar: 8:24pm On Apr 29, 2018
iamgenius:
Both religion stream from Abraham. Only one of them is the pure truth, the Quran. Bible is mixed with truth and lies.
I think it is the other way. You see, the bible doesn't acknowledge Muslims but Quran acknowledges the existence of Christians. That shows that Christianity was already in existence when Islam was evolving and not the other way round.

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Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by iamgenius(m): 9:50pm On Apr 29, 2018
enilove:


Which one always comes first, ORIGINAL OR FAKE ?

Muhammad and his followers had copies of the Bible from which they copied those stories you read in the Quran.

Volume 1, Book 11, Number 578:

Narrated Ibn 'Umar:

When the Muslims arrived at Medina, they used to assemble for the prayer, and used to guess the time for it. During those days, the practice of Adhan for the prayers had not been introduced yet. Once they discussed this problem regarding the call for prayer. Some people suggested the use of a bell like the Christians, others proposed a trumpet like the horn used by the Jews, but 'Umar was the first to suggest that a man should call (the people) for the prayer; so Allah's Apostle ordered Bilal to get up and pronounce the Adhan for prayers.

Even their prayer call was not from God but from Umar .
You can see that Muslims wanted to copy the Christians or the Jews regarding call for prayers during the beginning of Islam.

You won't stop amazing me everytime with your posts. You always claim to know about Islam. Your knowledge about Islam is upside down.

Regarding the Hadith up there, Google is your friend to know the History of the Adhan.

The people of Makkah and Madinah were idolaters, Jews, Christians or magians, so what do you expect them to suggest since they were new to Islam.

Thanks.
Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by iamgenius(m): 9:57pm On Apr 29, 2018
CodeTemplar:
I think it is the other way. You see, the bible doesn't acknowledge Muslims but Quran acknowledges the existence of Christians. That shows that Christianity was already in existence when Islam was evolving and not the other way round.
Does the existence of Christianity before Islam indicate Christianity is right?

We Muslims believe in the prophet hood of Jesus, Abraham, Moses, Enoch, David, Joseph(peace be upon all of them) and all other prophets. Because they were all sent by God, my Creator and your Creator.
Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by marttol: 10:20pm On Apr 29, 2018
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Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by M0ron: 6:10am On Apr 30, 2018
GooseBump:
I really don't understand this anymore, why is it that almost everything that happened in the Bible also occurred inside the Quran. Like Solomon and his wives, Moses, Jesus and a lot of them.

When this things were happening at that period ot time, was it also happening at the quranic way?
Quran is that idiot student who cheats in an exam by copying your work so much that he copies your name!

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Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by Maamin(m): 7:06pm On May 01, 2018
harbjar:

Not with some added spice bruh. With corrections and giving us the true story.... Stories which doesnt befit the prophets of God eg lot committing incest ....
Genesis 19:32-37
[32]Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
[33]And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
[34]And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
[35]And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
[36]Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.
[37]And the firstborn bare a son, and called his name Moab: the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day.
And other filthy dirty attributes of the prophets of God including jesus were corrected by God in his final revelation (Qur'an).. . So be careful of what you say and get your self the final testament of God to see the truth

This is to show you that the Bible was not sugar quoted neither does the bible tried to hide any secrete. All stories and events were documented and told as it is. grin

As for your quran it was all spiced and garnished with fables grin

All what you wrote up there does not even amount to your prophet's paedophilia undecided
Re: Who Copied Who?(bible And Quran) by keentola(m): 10:40pm On May 01, 2018
iamgenius:
Both religion stream from Abraham. Only one of them is the pure truth, the Quran. Bible is mixed with truth and lies.
I laff in arabic, Allah sends his regards

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