Peacefullove:
There are many controversy surrounding the story of the rich Man and Lazarus which is the go to bible passage many fundamental Christian adhere to when trying to justify the existence of the imaginary hell.

But here is a shocker:


"The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried ." Luke 16 vs 22

Notice that while it was exclusively stated that the rich man was buried, It wasn't the case for Lazarus , Instead he was carried away by the angels .

The point:

How many Christians today has died and get angels carrying them away?

If the story is therefore a true life story, people won't get buried before angels carry them away.

If such doesn't happen, Why not admit the story wasn't real ?

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Peacefullove:
There are many controversy surrounding the story of the rich Man and Lazarus which is the go to bible passage many fundamental Christian adhere to when trying to justify the existence of the imaginary hell.

But here is a shocker:


"The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried ." Luke 16 vs 22

Notice that while it was exclusively stated that the rich man was buried, It wasn't the case for Lazarus , Instead he was carried away by the angels .

The point:

How many Christians today has died and get angels carrying them away?

If the story is therefore a true life story, people won't get buried before angels carry them away.

If such doesn't happen, Why not admit the story wasn't real ?

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enilove:



Your real you is not the body but the soul.

The body will be buried but the soul cannot be seen with the naked eyes. Tjere4 , you cannot tell whether a christian is taking to heaven or to hell.

The soul will either be taking by the demons to hell or by Angels of God to heaven after death.
The physical bodies of the righteous or the sinners will surely be buried. That of Lazarus was also buried .

greatnaija01:
Please NEXT TIME read your bible with THEASARUS and CONCORDANCE..... that is what STUDY actually means.

Those who were RIGHTEOUS will always END UP in ABRAHAM'S BOSOM as at that time..... but the unrighteous will only end up at the GRAVE

did is why JESUS when he became sin.... ended up at the grave(which depicts he went to HELL) .... before He rose again.
Please read your bible very well before jumping to conclusion else we can also say JESUS NEVER TOOK HIS BATH OR BRUSHED OR EVEN ATE because Chapters in the gospel will often say HE ROSE EARLY IN THE MORNING TO GO AND PRAY without mentioning whether he bathed or did anything else....

I am not defending the bible BUT there is no controversy there if you have studied it in the right original text-Greek.

NOW let me come down to your level to reason the matter... LAZARUS HAD NO ONE... no one really cared... BUT HE WAS NOT A SINNER.... so why not consider that Just as ELIJAH, ENOCH and MOSES(whose body was also carried by an angel)... so also is LAZARUS.

The story is true... but your schematics are not valid until you can prove from original texts that it was not true.


Luke 16:22-31

22 And it occurred that the man [reduced to] begging died and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died and was buried.
23 And in Hades (the realm of the DEAD), being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far away, and Lazarus in his bosom.

if Lazarus was DEAD then how did verse 23 separate the realm of the DEAD from Abraham's bosom.... Because they were righteous and only considered SLEEPING.



No MORTAL BODY was carried to Abraham's BOSOM.

Peacefullove:


@ highlighted, Despite you saw it clearly that the story says he wasn't buried but carried like that you can still say this.

Now tell me what exactly was Carried to Abraham Bossom if no mortal body goes there ?

Peacefullove:


@ highlighted, Despite you saw it clearly that the story says he wasn't buried but carried like that you can still say this.

Now tell me what exactly was Carried to Abraham Bossom if no mortal body goes there ?

Peacefullove:


The same old lines, So you mean only the soul goes to hell ? I need an answer.


Show the bold to me in that Chapter ?

And don't tell me it was omitted, cos it was mentioned regarding the rich man

So show me ?

sonofthunder:

who carried the rich man to hell?

sonofthunder:
obsolete thread...

Peacefullove:


@ highlighted, Despite you saw it clearly that the story says he wasn't buried but carried like that you can still say this.

Now tell me what exactly was Carried to Abraham Bossom if no mortal body goes there ?

sonofthunder:
who carried the rich man to hell?

Anas09:

What is your ish here? Is it death or burial? Which matters most to a man?
No mortal flesh can enter the realms of the Spirit


Have you considered those who die by fire, been burnt to ashes? Or those eaten by beats? What about those whose bodies are being used by medical doctors by tearing them to little pieces which ends up being poured chemicals to resolve? So becos they were not buried they won't enter heaven or hellfire?

Without death, no one can transcend into the realm of the Spirit. The most important thing is that they died.

Peacefullove:
Relax your mind



@ Bold, The Story says Lazarus died and angels Carry him ( the dead Lazarus) to Abraham bosom . Does that not tell you he went with his MORTAL FLESH ?

How many xristians today proceed with their mortal flesh if the story ain't fictional.

Tosinex:
Lazarus died and he was carried by Angels, what do you think they carry? The dead body? No! they carry the real him to Abraham's bosom. The flesh is from the earth and to earth it will depart to while the Real man, housed in the flesh, formed by the breath of God depart into eternity.

Peacefullove:
There are many controversy surrounding the story of the rich Man and Lazarus which is the go to bible passage many fundamental Christian adhere to when trying to justify the existence of the imaginary hell.

But here is a shocker:


"The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried ." Luke 16 vs 22

Notice that while it was exclusively stated that the rich man was buried, It wasn't the case for Lazarus , Instead he was carried away by the angels .

The point:

How many Christians today has died and get angels carrying them away?

If the story is therefore a true life story, people won't get buried before angels carry them away.

If such doesn't happen, Why not admit the story wasn't real ?

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Primesky:


There is no point trying to make an issue out of a non issue. The fact that the bible didn't categorically mention that the poor man was buried, doesn't mean he wasn't buried. While you focus on that particular verse to make your case, have you considered other cases?. What about Jesus Christ, the son of God, who came in the form of man to save mankind, wasn't he buried after he died on the cross, have you considered that also?. So if the son of God was buried too, what exactly is your point?. What about other men of faith in the bible?. The father Abraham, to whose bossom, the poor man was carried to by the angels, wasn't he buried?.

Genesis 25:10 The field which Abraham purchased of the sons of Heth: there was Abraham buried, and Sarah his wife.

1 Samuel 28:3 Now Samuel was dead, and all Israel had lamented him, and buried him in Ramah, even in his own city. And Saul had put away those that had familiar spirits, and the wizards, out of the land.

1 Kings 2:10 So David slept with his fathers, and was buried in the city of David.

2 Kings 13:20 And Elisha died, and they buried him. And the bands of the Moabites invaded the land at the coming in of the year.

Matthew 27:59 And when Joseph had taken the body, he wrapped it in a clean linen cloth, And laid it in his own new tomb, which he had hewn out in the rock: and he rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulchre, and departed.

Your point is a non issue here.

Stop trying so hard to give yourself an excuse as to why you shouldn't be accountable to God, because that is a waste of time. You have heard the gospel and you can't deny it, there will be no excuse on the final day. The choice however, is yours.

Hell is real and heaven is real. Just like prison is real and freedom is real. You choose where to go.

Jesus Christ is the way, and He still saves.

Peacefullove:


You lost the point: Next time ask if you are not cleared enough.

The point is: If the guy wasn't buried, Does that not prove he was carried away with his Fleshly body ? If yes, that shows the story is fictional since body doesn't go to hell according to church tradition .

If you insisit he was buried, FROM where does the fingers he possess from ? Or are fingers not a part of the body ?

Primesky:


Hahaha... I understand your confusion, because the question is coming from someone who doesn't believe in spirits and ghosts. My dear, spirits have hands, OK?.

Just as the real world is to us humans, so is the spirit world real to spirits as well. Spirits are conscious beings, they have emotions and feelings far higher than the physical body. Spirits can feel pain, hunger and thirst. But they eat spiritual foods which only God can supply. So you could better understand the sorry state of the rich man.

Also, the bible talks about God giving man angels food.

Psalms 78:24-25 And had rained down manna upon them to eat, and had given them of the corn of heaven.
Man did eat angels' food: he sent them meat to the full.

But for now, while we dwell in this flesh, our spirits eat the word of God. When we study God's word, the Bible, it becomes food for your spirit. It's not something you can touch, but you can experience it. You can feel both the Hunger and satisfaction.

Wait let me ask you, where was the poor man carried to by the angels, wasn't it Abraham's bossom?. And Abraham died and was buried. So, do you now suppose that flesh/human body, is now sitting/resting on a ghost? Hahaha... please, let the Holy Spirit guide and teach you. But that will only Happen when you make Jesus Christ the Lord of your life. You will easily understand this things.

The real you is a spirit and he lives in your body. Just like you are now putting on clothes. The clothes you're putting on, is shaped after the configuration of your body. The one God made, your body, is perfectly configured to fit and match your spirit. When the body (clothe) dies, the real person (spirit) is unaffected.

Be saved today. Love you.

Peacefullove:


you are the one saying what your bible didn't say ...


Did it say his body was buried? No, you are just confused.

Now if Lazarus didn't go with his FLESHLY body, where are his Fingers talked about in Luke 16:24 gotten from ? Is Fingers not part of his fleshly body ?

I want you to reply

Tosinex:
I'm not interested in replying your foolishness, please continue in it.

sonofthunder:
obsolete thread...

Peacefullove:


Further heartbreak for you.

Mat 10 vs 28 " ...both soul AND BODY in hell." , so if your bible doesn't deny fleshly body in hell, why are you trying to deny it ?



Because the church has programmed your mind that only one invisible something go to hell, Sorry bruh , the body is mentioned as well


Now a sensible person can see the facts already, tell me how many people have gone to hell with their body