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Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive / JOHESU Set To Embark On Indefinite Strike / Strike: "JOHESU is Selfish, They don't know what they want" must read!! (2) (3) (4)
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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by ayencoforequity: 11:54am On May 22, 2018 |
A nurse is now made the American surgeon general by Donald Trump Will nma be ready to build a team where everyone becomes strong and reliable ? See the attachment 2 Likes
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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by Thanks18(m): 12:29pm On May 22, 2018 |
PLEASE TAKE A LOOK TO OLD COMESS AND OLD CONHESS: COMESS 3 (which is the starting point for doctors) #260,865.58 CONHESS 7 (which is the starting point for some health workers like accountant etc) #118,765. (difference of #142,100.00) 120% difference. CONHESS 9 (which is another starting point for health workers eg pharmacist etc) #161,670.33. (difference 99,195.25) 61% difference. NOW LETS STILL COMPARE THE SALARY OF A NEWLY EMPLOYED DOCTOR ABOVE WITH A HEALTH WORKERS THAT HAVE SPENT 6 TO 9 YEARS IN SERVICE WHICH IS CONHESS 11. CONHESS 11:#223,345.58 (difference of #37,520.00) 17% difference. ABOVE IS FOR OLD CONMESS AND OLD CONHESS.... TAKE A LOOK AT THE NEW CONMESS AND PROPOSED CONHESS BY JOHESU, PLS SIR I WILL STILL WANT YOU TO COMPARE THIS NEW CONMESS WITH THE OLD CONHESS THAT JOHESU IS PRESENTLY RECEIVING NOW.... NEW CONMESS 3 :# 312,944.83. PROPOSED CONHESS 7: #165,541.08 (difference of #147,403.75) 89%difference. PROPOSED CONHESS 9: #190,227.25 (difference of #122,717.58) 65% difference. PROPOSED CONHESS 11: #255,184.83. (difference of #57,760.00) 23% difference. I WANT TO ALSO WRITE THAT OF THE ZENITH OF BOTH PROFESSION : OLD CONMESS 7: #704,209.08 OLD CONHESS 15: #476,855.00 (DIFFERENCE #227,354.08) 48% DIFFERENCE. NEW CONMESS 7: #999,698.50 PROPOSED CONHESS 15: #697,024,42. (difference of #302,674.08) 43% Difference now did NMA see the parity they have been singing with I TOOK OUT MY PRECIOUS TIME TO HIGHLIGHT THIS FIGURES OUT because WHEN I AM TALKING I LIKE WORKING WITH FACT because THE TRUTH CAN'T BE HIDDEN. Copied 1 Like |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by fitzfrankses7(m): 8:54pm On May 23, 2018 |
Some of us have seen and experienced the truth... We need to rise above petty tirades to save our ailing health sector Revisiting The NMA Strike -* The Candid Opinion Of A UK-Based Doctor By *Dr. Ijabla Raymond* Although I practise abroad, I should point out that this strike affects me too. My family and friends all live in Nigeria. I feel compelled to write on this subject because of its seriousness and the dearth of objective analyses on our social media. It is an emotive subject for both *NMA* and *JOHESU* members, and I can understand why punches fly around, but both parties must rise above petty and emotional considerations if we are to find a way forward. For clarification purposes, the *NMA* represents medical doctors whilst *JOHESU* is a union of all health workers who are not doctors. The NMA has a list of *24 demands* but I will limit myself to the most contentious ones. At this stage, it is probably best that I introduce myself. _*I am medical doctor of Nigerian heritage practising in the UK.*_ *WHO SHOULD HEAD THE HOSPITAL* There is no contention – the medical doctor is the head of the *clinical team.* He/she leads the ward rounds, clinics, surgical operations, multidisciplinary meetings and so on because the ultimate and final responsibility for patient care rests in his/her hands. The headship of the hospital is a different matter. This is an *administrative* office, which needs not be occupied by a medical doctor. This job is better in the hands of people who have administrative or business management skills. _This is the case in countries like the UK, Canada and the US,_ which heavily influence our health system. Therefore, it is difficult to reason with the NMA why this job should be the exclusive right of medical doctors. *NON-MEDICAL CONSULTANTS* The doctor-patient ratio in Nigeria is _dangerously low._ In my view, the roles of non-medical professionals such as nurses, physiotherapists, pharmacists etc need to expand to cope with the demands on doctors. It is important that this is done in a _safe way_ by providing the appropriate level of training for these individuals. *This is the case in countries such as the UK, Canada and the US where consultant nurses, pharmacists etc have existed for a few decades now.* I do not see any problem with non-medical consultants as long as these individuals are appropriately trained and can practise both competently and safely within an *agreed framework* . These professionals have separate (but complimentary) job descriptions and their roles are not designed to replace or dispense with the services of the doctor. If this arrangement enhances patient care, then where is the problem with it? The NMA needs to demonstrate to the public and to the government how the creation of these non- medical consultant positions will adversely affect patient care, otherwise, its demands will be perceived as obstructing the professional development of JOHESU members, and I don’t think this is helpful to anybody. *HAZARD ALLOWANCE* The types of hazard and the level to which healthcare workers are exposed vary considerably and depend on the type of job they do. For instance, psychiatrists are hardly exposed to body fluids and their risks for contracting diseases like HIV and hepatitis are much less than for a theatre scrub nurse. The risk of physical assault by a patient is higher for a psychiatrist than for a surgeon. And because psychiatric nurses spend more time with patients, their risks of assault are arguably higher than those of consultant psychiatrists. The people who work in radiology departments such as radiologists, radiographers, nurses, porters and so on have greater exposure to radioactive materials than everyone else in the hospital. The current health hazard allowance of N5,000 is unconscionable – it needs to increase. However, I think it is imperative to get an independent risk assessor for impartial advice. *MISCELLANEOUS* I have read far too many emotional arguments on these issues and very little of an objective discourse. It is important that I draw your attention to a few of these. What has become obvious is the lack of understanding of the *concept of teamwork* . There is a pervasive notion among doctors that the other healthcare workers are there to serve them. JOHESU members think that doctors have become too conceited for their own good and are determined to put them in their “places”. *The most important person in the hospital is the patient* – it is *not* the _doctor_ , _nurse_ , _pharmacist_ or _laboratory scientist_ or anyone else. Every team member is important and must be respected, including the people who do the least clinical jobs like cleaning. I don’t imagine that any hospital will remain open for longer than a week if its cleaners went on strike and dirt was allowed to accumulate to the point where it constitutes a health risk. I have heard so many anecdotal accounts of nurses not joining doctors on ward rounds or pharmacists altering prescriptions without first discussing these with the prescribing doctors or laboratory scientist slapping doctors; and these accounts are being given as reasons why doctors must continue to head hospitals. These are *disciplinary matters,* which should be managed according to existing procedures. These excuses are emotional and should not be used to block the professional development of others. The other reason I have heard doctors give for not wanting our non-medical colleagues to bear the "consultant" title is the fear that patients will confuse them or anybody else in a white-coat for a doctor and give such people an excuse for autonomous practice. This reason is *not good enough* because this problem can be solved by wearing names badges and/or colour coded uniforms. Also health professionals should introduce themselves to patients at the start of consultations. But more significantly, this can be an issue of regulation - any one found to be (criminally) practising over and beyond their job description, competence level or professional registration becomes liable to disciplinary procedures. Our health system suffers from poor regulation. This is why anyone can open a chemist and dole out antibiotics indiscriminately. It is the reason doctors are scared that consultant pharmacists, nurses and physiotherapists will steal their patients. But it is also the reason why doctors may recommend an operation to a patient where none is necessary just so they can charge more. This is a problem that is in urgent need of attention. I hope that this something both NMA & JOHESU will flag up in the near future. Another recurrent theme in these debates is the abuse of junior doctors by both medical and non-medical staff, which appears to be endemic. There is a consistent narrative of junior doctors being asked to do other people’s jobs such as collecting blood from blood banks, taking samples to laboratories etc. In extreme cases, these doctors are asked to undertake non-clinical tasks by more senior doctors. This is simply unacceptable! I think it is fair to place the blame for this at the hands of consultants who are supposed to be responsible for junior doctors. But this in itself is not a good argument for blocking JOHESU members from becoming consultants in their specialties or for stopping them from heading hospitals if they have the right qualifications. I am concerned that the NMA is losing public sympathy. Increasingly, I hear people describe doctors as selfish and heartless. This is very sad and rather unfortunate. They say doctors do not have any motivation to end the strike because patients are forced to pay exorbitant fees to them in their private hospitals. Those patients who cannot afford these fees are left to suffer or die. If the NMA has made any efforts to change this public perception, then these do not appear to have been effective. *CONCLUSION* The current strategy (i.e., recurrent strikes) is not working. Over the last decade or two, the NMA and non-medical health workers (more recently represented by JOHESU) have taken turns to go on strikes. Perhaps, it is time for both parties to sit together, talk to each other and resolve these contentious issues once and for all. _It’s pointless for the government to enter into agreements with one party knowing fully well that the other party will ask for a reversal of those agreements._ I think the time has come to incorporate Ethics, Teamwork and Communications into undergraduate curricula. The various online comments I have read from medical and non- medical colleagues show that whilst many easily mouth off "team work", a practical understanding of what this means is lacking. Disciplinary procedures are there for a reason. They must be followed when necessary. Although I practise abroad, I should point out that this strike affects me too. My family and friends all live in Nigeria. And who says I am not planning to come home to practise? Lastly, we must all be mindful of our own mortality. Most of us will be ill someday. And when this happens, the only thing that will matter to us is to be looked after by caring and competent health-workers regardless of their individual specialisation. We can create that environment if we forget our individual egos and work as a team. *Ijabla Raymond,* a medical doctor of Nigerian heritage writes from the UK. Contact: _ijabla.raymond@facebook.com._ 6 Likes |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by emekatheo: 6:31pm On May 24, 2018 |
[color=#990000][/color] The Pharmaceutical Society of Nigeria (PSN) heartily appreciates the dynamic gover nor of Lagos state, HE Akinwunmi Ambode for the creation of pharmacists’ consultancy cadre in the Scheme of Service of Lagos state, Nigeria. This is a milestone in the history of health care system in Nigeria in general and Lagos state in particular. The governor is surely in a march to advance mankind. This circular was, however, visited with an uncivilized growing dictatorship and cruel tyranny from the NMA where they threatened and requested for the withdrawal of the circular, with even a deadline. PSN ordinarily never wanted to join issues with NMA, considering the fact that NMA is in crisis with itself in an ego cocoon, complicated by gross ignorance, incompetence and clear display of deficiency of wisdom that lengthened the strike action with JOHESU. This has turned the health sector into ridicule, a situation any serious minded body will avoid as enshrined in the Hippocratic Oath. At times like this, when inter-professional collaboration is the way forward in International best practices, NMA has chosen the path of desperate destruction. For the sake of clarity, let me educate NMA on global best practices. The World Health Organization (WHO), is the highest body in the world which set or make a standard for international best practice on all issues of health. Just as other systems of the world are so dynamic, so is the healthcare delivery system-dynamic in all ramifications. And any government that proclaimed good governance should always refer to WHO standard on regular bases to meet the health needs of its nation. To buttress our precarious situation, let’s look at current International best practices according to WHO ranking (April 2018) under the following headings: The first 5 best hospital systems in the worldThe worst 5 hospital systems in the worldConsultancy/specialists status in the two systemsHealth administration in the two systems (best and worst) The first 5 best hospital systems in the world According to WHO ranking of 191 member countries April 2018, the following are the best 5 with effective healthcare delivery system FranceItalySan MarinoAndorraMalta The worst 5 hospital systems in the world The bottoms up ward, which are considered the worst 5 among 191 member countries are: Sierra LeoneMyanmarCentral African RepublicDemocratic Republic of the CongoNigeria Among the 191 WHO member countries, Nigeria is sadly ranked 189 in healthcare service provision. It’s is very obvious that in Nigeria, healthcare service delivery is averse to change. We are where we are today because of the cataclysmic barrier NMA catalysed by their poor choices in the health sector. These barriers prevent the policy makers from seeing reality from the international point of view. Lagos State Government is absolutely in line with harmony and inter-professional needs to attain International best practices in the healthcare delivery system. To understand global best practices, according to a 2017 report of the Economists Intelligence Unit, on the global access to healthcare index: UK, Canada, Australia and USA make the top 10. While Nigeria ranks among the bottom 6 overall of the 60 countries listed on the same global index. Let me take a drive with you to the practices in these countries Health administration in the two systems Health administration entails administrative structure in the health sector, the incumbent ministers and other heads down the structure and the bases or criteria of selection will be x-rayed to justify current positions in WHO ranking. CountryMinister of HealthSpecialtyFranceMorisol TouraineEconomicsItalyBeatrice LorenzinJournalism and politicsSan MarinoDidier GamerdingerLawAndorraCristina Rodriguez GalanMolecular BiologyMaltaChristopher FearneMedicineUSAAlex AzarLawGermanyJens SpahnLawSaudi ArabiaTawfiq Al RavishMathematicsIsrealYaakov LitzmanTorahSpainDolors MontserratLawIndiaJagat Prakash NaddaLawCanadaGenette Petitpas TaylorSocial works A look at the above appointments is a testimony that performance index is dependent on neutrality and administrative prowess and not on ‘medical qualification’ as commonly claimed by Nigerian medical doctors. Incidentally the Director General of World Health Organisation (WHO), Tedros Adhamon, an Ethiopian, studied Biology. If he, and all those above, were in Nigeria, NMA would have protested. This is the situation the NMA of Lagos is attempting, and writing to a Governor as knowledgeable as HE Ambode Akinwunmi- a distinguished administrator who knows his onions and is committed to advance mankind. The criterion for selection in these great and successful countries is based on professional and administrative experience and this is the same down the administrative structure. In Nigeria (‘International best practices’ epitome!!), the criteria for selection are solely based on MBBS qualification and it is also the same down the administrative structure. Does that tell you the reason(s) for failure? Yes indeed. What a shame!! Consultancy/Specialist status Specialists and consultants in various fields in healthcare are a common trend. They are mandated to train and award fellowships based on their skills and competences. These healthcare team members earn specialist allowances as they render services to the patients. In this current loggerhead, NMA said the consultancy cadre is sacred to only doctors (yet, citing certain international best practices). We run Fellowship in the West African Postgraduate College of Pharmacists to improve our knowledge, attitudes, skills and competences to promote and maintain a high standard of professional pharmacy practice. We have Primary level (1 year), Part One (Two years) and Part two (Two years). Pharmacists undergo a minimum of 12 months Residency training and present dissertation that are assessed by erudite academics (Professors and all PhD holders), before the award of Fellowship in various specialties. In fact, in the USA, a Nigerian (Dr Teresa Pounds- a consultant pharmacist) heads the Residency training and runs the consultancy program in one of the biggest Universities. I read with utmost dismay, as NMA has turned both Judge and jury in its case. Representing all parties in the health sector. Deciding the fate of everybody and declaring others as they will. This has messed up the sensibilities and sensitivities of the health sector by incessant and unrelenting relegation of others. What we have is a contradistinction to the labour law. NMA determining what others should get when NMA is not an employer of labour. This negates labour engagement and a breach of human rights. I all along thought the NMA was a serious union, until recently when the deficiency of purpose and leadership was obviously testified especially in this pharmacy consultancy cadre as embraced by a leading state in Nigeria. A profession regulating another? This is strange. Only in an indecent and decaying system can this happen. Can a Building engineer regulate the training of a civil engineer? Can an Architect tell government not to recognize the M.Sc of a Building engineer? Nigeria is not and should not sink so abysmally. Other health professional have the right to develop themselves in line with best international practices-sincere practices please; NOT the one only NMA has access to. The interference with growth and development of healthcare in this country is becoming an embarrassment to civility. The pharmacy consultancy cadre, as approved by Lagos State Government in the service of scheme is the best thing the health sector can achieve. PSN shall not relent in promoting the health sector in Nigeria. We commend the Lagos state Government for this bold action of International best practice. Pharm.Ahmed I Yakasai, FPSN, FNIM, FNAPharm, FCPharm President, Pharmaceutical Society of Nigeria (PSN) Pharm. Emeka C. Duru National Secretary Pharmaceutical Society of Nigeria (PSN) 2 Likes |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by lanxebony(m): 7:00pm On May 26, 2018 |
#THEY_RUINED_OUR_TEAM NB: Long post When we were admitted into the university, some of us were in Nursing Sciences, Optometry, Medical Laboratory Science, Medicine and Surgery, Physiotherapy, Dentistry, Pharmacy, Radiology etc. We were subjected to general studies (GST,GSS). We were taught by mathematicians, Education teachers, physicists and philosophers. Since they knew little or nothing about the slight differences in our course of study, they addressed us by a general name: Medical and Health Sciences. We made friends amongst one another. " What's your department? " I'd asked. " Nursing sciences. " " Wow! I 'm in Medicine and Surgery. Meet my friend, she's in Pharmacy." That way, we became bound by the cords of friendship, and we read at the Medical Laboratory Science block. We had one common goal: to pass our exams. We put our heads together in solving the past questions for that semester. Bunmi my Pharmacist friend, was good at Mathematics. Ekene the Nursing guy, was a wizard in Chemistry. I loved Biology, and Ahmed my Optometry friend taught us Physics. Together, we solved the past questions, taught and complimented each other. Now towards our third Year in school, things started to go sour, and South. Bunmi would pass and just wave. Ekene barely would talk to me, and whenever Ahmed picked my calls, I 'd feel like I owed God a testimony. Each of us had the key to our respective classes and we locked them against every other student that wasn't in our department. The center could no longer hold - things fell apart: " They should have considered it a privilege to be associated with me." " Oh, I didn't tell you? " Towards our third year in school, we had new lecturers with entirely different mindsets , behaviors and speech. They were our seniors in the profession. They'd availed themselves so we could be taught. Pharmacists taught the Pharmacy students. Doctors taught the student Doctors. Scientists taught the student Scientists. Matrons taught the student Nurses. Every thing went fine, until we were introduced to a strange course; a course not found in the curriculum. But we learnt it. It was injected into us, and it went straight into our heads and our minds absorbed them. They were injections of words. We were told to uphold our disciplines with great esteem and never to accept any humiliation from anybody. They told us that we were superior to other departments. Student laboratory scientists were told that without the laboratory, the hospital is handicapped. The Nursing students were told that they were indispensable. The student Doctors were told that they were general overseers. The Pharmacists assumed the appellation ; Bedrock of Medical Practice. These may not be entirely false, but the next words injected in us triggered the hatred, ego rise and envy. We were told of how other departments in the same medical field hated us; of the need to stand up and uphold the fight because other departments are jealous of ours and wants to humiliate us. We were told that medical doctors were arrogant and hence we'd give them no room for such display. We were told that nurses were insulting, hence, all relationships with them should be kept at a highly official level and with great consciousness of our ego; that the medical laboratory scientists were poke - nosing into our territory, so we must annihilate them as possibly as we can. We were taught to esteem our ego and defend our profession against our 'foes' in the same field. No wonder we now feel insecure amongst ourselves - the injection really worked. Sadly, as I bleed in my heart writing this, I recalled our first years, when our minds were like virgins. We were together and we all had one mind and one goal - The Exam. Now we are faced with a bigger goal - The patient. But, we aren't together. So, How can we Pass? They've ruined our team. Written by Isaiah Ugochukwu Obialor (Student Medlab Scientist) Reviewed by Iruke Kingsley Chuckwuebuka ( student optometrist) Edited by Wisdom Ngumoha (student doctor) Forwarded by Ogechi Blessing Godwin (student nurse ) And Ango Wisdom (student pharmacist) Nigeria medical sector: There is no "I" in a team. #copied 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by Dnaz(m): 7:10am On May 27, 2018 |
ayencoforequity:
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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by Dnaz(m): 7:11am On May 27, 2018 |
ayencoforequity:She was just Acting for like 2months before Trump appointed the Substantive Surgeon general who is a Doctor and she dropped back to assists
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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by AlphaT1(m): 1:22pm On May 27, 2018 |
funmisticqueen: This is praise abi? What was the truth? |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by AlphaT1(m): 1:23pm On May 27, 2018 |
funmisticqueen: This is another praise! |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by Thanks18(m): 2:25pm On May 27, 2018 |
Dnaz: she was not the only non physician to be appointed as surgeon general in US.It is a fact that her name is in the list of Surgeon General of US. Even a veterinarian and one other nurse had attained such positions. but can this happen in Nigeria? all the past and current ministers of health and ministers of state of health from 80s till date are all physicians with the resultant decay and rot in the sector. I repeat till Nigeria start appointing capable and competent hands drawn from all stakeholders(- JOHESU and NMA) with rich resume and track records to manage and lead our health sector from primary to tertiary level, we will still be witnessing a gigantic failed health system in the whole wide world. |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by Dnaz(m): 3:17pm On May 27, 2018 |
Thanks18:The nurse who attained the position before had a degree in nursing and then another in medicine. In other words it was a nurse turned physician 1 Like |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by danilmo: 4:44pm On May 27, 2018 |
Dnaz: am sure that guy will b dump and disappointed with this .. he's busy researching on how a nurse/Johesu are leaders/director in medical Field where doctors are still on sit.. wen people lost their Senses, they start dreaming infinite dream |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by Thanks18(m): 5:25pm On May 27, 2018 |
danilmo: You are daft. I am not here for secondary school debate and I must not be responding to all comments much especially ones that are full of bias. Once I made my point, I will not keep repeating and gesticulating it. I also made mention of a veterinary Dr becoming US Surgeon general. Kwara state has appointed a nurse to be the substantive commissioner of health. Leadership of health sector should be open to competent administrators drawn from all stakeholders. I am done with you. If you like keep pursuing shadow and reactive to the positive dawn coming to Nigeria's health sector. Dnaz: danilmo: You are daft. I am not here for secondary school debate and I must not be responding to all comments much especially ones that are full of bias. Once I made my point, I will not keep repeating and gesticulating it. I also made mention of a veterinary Dr becoming US Surgeon general. Kwara state has appointed a nurse to be the substantive commissioner of health. Leadership of health sector should be open to competent administrators drawn from all stakeholders. I am done with you. If you like keep pursuing shadow and reactive to the positive dawn coming to Nigeria's health sector. |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by Nobody: 8:59pm On May 27, 2018 |
AlphaT1:it is only a dunce that doesnt recognise an insult when he sees one |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by danilmo: 10:52pm On May 27, 2018 |
Thanks18: I guess ure a male nurse Pele.. |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by Thanks18(m): 11:17pm On May 27, 2018 |
danilmo:No I am not a nurse. I am a Physiotherapist. |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by danilmo: 11:26pm On May 27, 2018 |
Thanks18:u graduated from OAU I think |
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Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by nurain150(m): 12:44am On Nov 08, 2021 |
TempoJames:I can see your quakery Paracetamol for fever ofcourse why not. Have you treated witlow before? |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by nurain150(m): 12:58am On Nov 08, 2021 |
TempoJames: Lol u study Pharmacology in what ? Don't whine yourself |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by nurain150(m): 1:01am On Nov 08, 2021 |
danilmo:Lol you use trauma to qualify payment. |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by nurain150(m): 1:11am On Nov 08, 2021 |
TempoJames:Lol I write Pharmacology Theory + True and False. Theory where you are given 6 pages booklet to fill per question. 3 Questions answer All, so what's your justification.. I wrote like mad in exam. Lol. Immunosuppressant and drug restance. |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by nurain150(m): 1:13am On Nov 08, 2021 |
danilmo: Lol see your MBBS guys in Clinical Pharmacy doing masters Lol. You this People una no know anything oo. |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by nurain150(m): 1:15am On Nov 08, 2021 |
TempoJames: You should have take it out on a Chief Clinical Pharmacy consultant not on the poor boy. Guess what does guys are too busy for narialand, they are on LinkedIn. |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by nurain150(m): 1:18am On Nov 08, 2021 |
optm: Don't mind him, its like a small honey badger standing up and giving a Lion tough time. I admire my NYSC pharmacist courage to compete with a consultant Physician |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by danilmo: 12:27am On Dec 15, 2021 |
nurain150: Oga pharmacist. Dey ur dey.. Wetin come happen to people doing Masters in clinical pharmacy oh.. abi can u come and do residency in medicine then maybe ? We have Doctor's doing Masters in public health too.. Does that make them not to mellow wen grouped with student who av 1st degrees in Epideiology ni? Meanwhile , how come u rejuvenated this thread of how many years ago. U dug it out. Mehn.. Meanwhile, nobody is saying they have knowledge not drug more than pharmacist, afterall u guys produce it. But common, the application of the drug and using it to manage patient is where u LL have to hands up..don't come and bore us with some rare clinically irrelevant secret they bore u with in ur school.. I'm the one managing patient illness, I know what is wrong and what give for my patient to be fine, We've been doing that for long.. Study ur ready made formulas of making drug , read them and produce the drug in ur company , dispense and explain how to use the drug to my patient and dey he day.. If I need a pharmacist knowledge abt a drug, it's to ask for different brand or fake product advise. If u know drug usage better u would have been the one managing patient ke , Afterall in my day clinic, I've never heard any taught of asking pharmacist to come and review our patient as regard drug say wetin happen kwa Wetin concern pharmacist with how I want to manage a neonate having hyperbilirubinemia, or patient having immune reconstitution infalmatory syndrome. Biko avoid me with ur useless talk. |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by nurain150(m): 2:59am On Dec 15, 2021 |
danilmo: Lol Maybe you never hear say clinical Pharmacy dey. You wey no fit mention two formulation for the disease you diagonse lol . Well I won't say don't manage patient. Manage them when you write out drug interactions I would send the patient back to you. Then sense will come into your head. |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by nurain150(m): 3:01am On Dec 15, 2021 |
danilmo: Ofe shey masters clinical Pharmacy ole. Lol he thinks the faculty would allow that. Have you ever heard a Pharmacist doing masters in surgery. |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by danilmo: 5:29am On Dec 15, 2021 |
nurain150: Lol. Why won't i know formulation as regard my diagnosis The scenerio I gave u have excess breakdown of blood cells to heme and globin by heme oxygenase while NADP reductase convert biliverdin to bilirubin, ligadins convert unconjugated to conjugated bilirubin and I'm fully aware of the effect of glucoronidase complicating the effect. The said above formulation is what is needed which u don't know, and if u know u would have been been in the position of managing the patient.. comot body bro. Na we Sabi the physiology of the body, Sabi the needed drug.. Those who produce Jet fuel, does that make them know about building and flying a Jet? , Jet building are the Surgeons, Pilots are the Internal Medicine. Jet fuel producers/supplier/dispenser only need to tell aviation industry to buy jet fuel that has no lead, and can produce more powerful outcome. Wetin concern them with how they build the engine and piloting a jet.. The illustration I gave u is the exact different between Doctors and pharmacist. And the way u say drug interaction, u so much talk it like it's d order of the day, like Medics are mumu and novice of pharmacology that write prescription anyhow without considering their counter interaction.. Many of us exhausted Katzung Pharmacology as mandated ke.. Or u feel spending 12 Month in year 4 to study Pathology and Pharmacology is a joke in Medical sch?? I'm very sure uv loaded ur head with some funny rare drug interaction, rest bro.. its not the order of the day as u painted it .. How many drug prescription u don return this month I will one day set up some of u pharmacist up one day with prescription. Be like u just graduated self, the thing dey shark u.. |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by danilmo: 5:40am On Dec 15, 2021 |
nurain150: Taught u said u have Medics doing it before ni maybe na why u said Demn no know anything, was wondering why would medic wanted clinical pharmacy in the first place too,.. Beside oya tell us the job of clinical pharmacist consultant.. Are we expecting something new apart from what's going in the health/hospital settings? No b to just bear consultant pharmacist and dispense insulin, una must come ward come follow manage the Diabeticketoacidotic infant o. Let's watch the display and note of our latest titled clinical pharmacist consultant. Dnt mind my talks but what's the special job of a clinical pharmacist/consultant. |
Re: NMA Threatens To Embark On Strike If FG Yield To The Demands Of JOHESU by nurain150(m): 8:21am On Dec 15, 2021 |
danilmo: Google can be your help line. SAPA no suppose hold you reach that level abi na free mode u dey use for nairaland. |
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