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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Timiofak(m): 11:53am On Oct 13, 2020
CoronaVirusRelo:
McGrath: We need to hold Big Pharma accountable—he’s incapable of doing that b/c he took more $ from them than anyone else. And we must protect the ACA so ppl can get treatment.

Moderator: Sen McConnell would you like to respond?

Mitch: Nah—let’s move on.

Moderator: OK then...




grin grin grin



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLk9BPejvpk

Mcgrath finished him, the same way harrison finished lindsey.

This is what i have been trying to explain to this trumpsters, liberals have vibrant young people, men and women, that makes it obvious that these people would take over from these callous old men soon. The republican party is shrinking.

But yeah 94% grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by minnet: 11:54am On Oct 13, 2020
Konkoja:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0VDAQx1X8o

Like father, like son - absolute garbage!

He's better than a cocaine addict
shocked

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by minnet: 11:56am On Oct 13, 2020
salford1:
Isn't it funny how Trump tweets and only get few likes despite having over 80m followers. Even people with 500k followers are getting more likes than Trump's. And the comments are full of Americans cursing him out. The Russian Bots are not doing their jobs. grin

Anyways, I am just going to leave this here.

Your mumu can never be saved!
grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 11:58am On Oct 13, 2020
Timiofak:


Lmao, are you sure you are in America? That is the land of madness to be candid, they unpredictable happens like it’s nothing

Dont be shocked when you see a new scene of what happened in the 2000 election


Tipping Trump to win is an insult on the majority of Americans.

With the present status quo and awareness, Trump`s loss is sealed.

Cant you see he wakes up 5.00am everyday to rage tweet, It should tell you reality is dawning on him.

He has been rejected by every sane mind. Both nationally and internationally. He is a goner!

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Nobody: 12:00pm On Oct 13, 2020
Timiofak:


Mcgrath finished him, the same way harrison finished lindsey.

This is what i have been trying to explain to this trumpsters, liberals have vibrant young people, men and women, that makes it obvious that these people would take over from these callous old men soon. The republican party is shrinking.

But yeah 94% grin

The lots of Republicans we have today are not brilliant. Its an ailment from the top

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by obixcel(m): 12:10pm On Oct 13, 2020
What the Dems are doing to this man is so cruel....Elder abuse cry undecided

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9wrHTGQQ3Q

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by JuwonBobo(m): 12:11pm On Oct 13, 2020
Just a look at the polls spells DOOM for Trump

This is my advice to y'all Cultists! Your Grandmaster is losing in a landslide. STOP BEING A**LICKERS. Now, here is the truth, as much as you don't believe in polls (cos your Master found them useless) 2016 ain't 2020, also, Clinton ain't Biden. It's obvious this is beyond DAMAGE CONTROL. Nov 3rd is ARMAGEDDON!

If your Grandmaster ain't scared right now, why did he get back to the campaign trails so fast? If he is what he claims to be "THE BEST PRESIDENT'', why can't him sit comfortably and recover and let the campaign run itself since he'd done well for Americans?

Remember: When he goes down, he pulls the whole GOP with him. I pity Moscow Mitch and Lindsey Graham...political careers on deathbed already..Nov 3rd the Funeral

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ZooOga: 12:11pm On Oct 13, 2020
Remember, many American Black voters didn't vote back in 2016. Different story in 2020.

Black churches mobilizing voters despite virus challenges

Politics Oct 12, 2020 1:09 PM EDT
NEW YORK (AP) — For the Rev. Jimmy Gates Sr., the 2008 presidential election year was one to remember — and not just because it yielded a historic result as the nation elected its first Black president.

The pastor of Zion Hill Baptist Church in Cleveland recalls how, on the last Sunday of early voting before the general election, he and his congregation traveled in a caravan of packed buses, vans and cars to the city’s Board of Elections office and joined a line of voters that seemed to stretch a mile.

“What a sight to see,” Gates said. “Seniors, middle-aged people, young people.”

In recent election cycles, Black church congregations across the country have launched get-out-the-vote campaigns commonly referred to as “souls to the polls.” To counteract racist voter suppression tactics that date back to the Jim Crow era, early voting in the Black community is stressed from pulpits nearly as much as it is by the candidates seeking their support.

But voter mobilization in Black church communities will look much different in 2020, due in large part to the coronavirus pandemic that has infected millions across the U.S. and has taken a disproportionate toll on Black America.

Churches have organized socially distant caravans with greatly reduced transportation capacity for early voting and Election Day ballot-casting. Church volunteers are phone-banking and canvasing the homes of their members to ensure mail-in and absentee ballots are requested and hand-delivered to election board offices or drop boxes before the deadlines.

But outreach has been complicated because many churches have been holding services virtually for months, with some having only recently resumed worship in-person.

READ MORE: Biden meets with black leaders at local church amid unrest

Black Voters Matter, a national voting rights group that organizes in 15 states, is trying to help churches assist people who count on a “souls to the polls” ride on or before Election Day.

“It’s not whether there are enough votes out there,” said Cliff Albright, a co-founder of the group. “It’s whether we have the strategy, the resources and the election protection to make sure that the voters who want to show up are actually able to do so and be counted.”

The Associated Press interviewed pastors, congregants and voting rights advocates nationwide to get a sense of how efforts to mobilize Black voters would play out during a deadly pandemic when Black people have been disproportionately affected by virus-related layoffs, and issues of systemic racism are top of mind.

Black Americans have far higher rates of joblessness than the national average and the highest COVID-19 mortality rate of any racial group.

The turbulence of 2020 and fears of contracting the coronavirus have the potential to depress turnout even among reliable segments of Black voters, advocates say. So this year’s voter mobilization has to succeed at a level it didn’t in 2016, compared to 2008 and 2012, Gates said.

“We must vote like our life depends on it,” he said. “Yes, we know God takes care of us and is the supplier of all our needs. But God has given us a will to do the right thing. You didn’t listen to us in 2016. So my thing is, do you hear me now?”

Some pastors say the coast-to-coast unrest that followed the police killings of Black Americans this year have motivated their congregations. In Minneapolis, where a white officer held his knee to the neck of George Floyd, voters want to see policing reforms at the legislative level, said Bishop Divar L. Bryant Kemp, pastor of New Mount Calvary Baptist Church in North Minneapolis.

“I tell people all the time, ‘Don’t talk to me about what needs to be changed if you haven’t voted to make a change,’” he said.

The challenge for Kemp will be getting voters to the polls safely. A church van used in previous elections recently broke down.

Kemp also understands the pandemic risks all too well. He contracted COVID-19 in July and was hospitalized for five days, forcing him to stay away from his church for three weeks.

“We considered renting a van to take them to the polls, but either way we’re going to do it,” Kemp said.

“Souls to the polls” as an idea traces back to the civil rights movement. The Rev. George Lee, a Black Mississippi entrepreneur, was assassinated by white supremacists in 1955, after he helped nearly 100 Black residents register to vote in the town of Belzoni. The cemetery where Lee is buried has served as a polling place.

“There was a statement that he once made advocating voting rights: ‘Don’t cry for my mama and my daddy. They’re already gone. You need to cry for your children that will come along,’” said Wardell Walton, Belzoni’s first Black mayor, who served between 2005 and 2013.

Lee’s memory should “inspire us to continue to move forward despite the obstacles,” said Walton, 70.

Across the U.S., early voting rules vary state-to-state, but begin for the vast majority of eligible voters in October at an average of 22 days before the election, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

Initial signs suggest Black voters are indeed intent on casting a ballot this year. Steady traffic at early voting sites in states like Ohio and strong returns of mailed-in ballots in North Carolina, Georgia and elsewhere indicate an energized Black electorate.

Even without the hurdles of a pandemic, voter suppression is a persistent election year issue for Black Americans. The civil rights movement brought about passage of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, which prohibited racial discrimination in voting.

WATCH: Voter suppression and the impact of COVID-19 on people of color

Despite the law, efforts to thwart voting for minorities have required constant vigilance. In some states, suppression worsened because of a 2013 Supreme Court ruling that gutted a section of the law requiring states with a history of racially discriminatory voting rules to get federal approval before changing election laws.

Ahead of the 2012 general election, Republican-controlled state legislatures and local elections officials put limits on early voting periods that “souls to the polls” campaigns rely on.

“I’m now determined more than ever to go to the polls and cast my ballot in person, as opposed to by mail.”
– Jane Bonner, attends church at Walk of Faith Cathedral in Austell

Now, some Black Americans are wary of President Donald Trump’s false claims of widespread mail-in voter fraud, along with reported mail delivery problems within the U.S. Postal Service. Advocates have decried the president’s recent call for his most fervent supporters to monitor the polls on Election Day as an attempt at voter intimidation in the Black community, although Trump has denied this.

WATCH: The truth about vote-by-mail and fraud

Jane Bonner, a 53-year-old health care administrator who attends church at Walk of Faith Cathedral in Austell, just west of Atlanta, said her 91-year-old parents can recall their own experiences with disenfranchisement. Her mother was denied voter registration when she could not tell the registrar “the number of days, hours and minutes until her next birthday,” she said.

“I’m now determined more than ever to go to the polls and cast my ballot in person, as opposed to by mail,” Bonner said.

Keith White, a director of social justice initiatives at Christian Cultural Center, has been petitioning New York City elections officials to allow his predominantly Black church in Brooklyn to serve as a polling location. Whether or not that happens, the church will use its van and a charter bus to shuttle early voters between now and Election Day, he said.

“People are concerned about this election and the implication that it might have for our children’s future,” White said. “Folks will be out early. I don’t think they will be waiting until the last day before Election Day.”

Associated Press writers Skip Foreman in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, and Mohamed Ibrahim in Minneapolis contributed to this report. News researcher Jennifer Farrar in New York also contributed.

Left: To counteract racist voter suppression tactics that date back to the Jim Crow era, early voting in the Black community is stressed from pulpits.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/black-churches-mobilizing-voters-despite-virus-challenges

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 12:14pm On Oct 13, 2020
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/10/12/dr-fauci-says-trump-ad-featuring-him-should-taken-down/5972629002/

After all the lies and attacks against Fauci they have the mind to use him for their ads, shameless people

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 12:17pm On Oct 13, 2020
obixcel:
What the Dems are doing to this man is so cruel....Elder abuse cry undecided

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9wrHTGQQ3Q

Same Biden we saw at the debates? can't you people see this propaganda has exhausted and no longer working, if I was trump campaign team I will be pissed off by this, find new materials please.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Konkoja: 12:17pm On Oct 13, 2020
AmazonTopaz:

That is because they have been brainwashed and are blinded by religious sentiments and believe that Trumpolini was sent by God and is doing the work of God.
Also because they believe Obama did not support GEJ even FFK tweeted about it when Trumpolini won in 2016 that Obama got paod his karma for what he did to GEJ in 2015 I wonder the kind of proof they have that Obama interfered and that narrative stuck on their heads since they are still pained that Obama pledged to work with Buhari over GEJ's loss that is why the South east where I am from has a lot of Trump supporters and have been brainwashed by Kanu that Trumpolini supports their calls for Biafra.

Also on the issue of Abortion and same sex marriage as a result of religious beliefs they believe that Obama wanted to bring that to Nigeria they sat that on that narrative for years and when the senate in Nigeria passed sentences against it they somehow tied it to Obama wanting to immoralise the world and was an agent of 666 the devil etc.

All these supports even in America is not as a result of rationality,issues or policies but just blind sentiments and listening to conspiracy theories like Qanon people some Nigerians believe in those illuminati,devil church deep state nonsense and believe Trumpolini is against those things I know this because I had people around me that believes those nonsense.

Do not underestimate the influence of white evangelicals in church movement in Nigeria. They influence most church leaders in Nigeria. How do you explain a hitherto brilliant/intelligent pastor now promoting conspiracies on 5G, vaccination and new world order?
Secondly, most people who associate with church in Nigerian are only religious not actually Christians. That is why they will rather call for 'release of Barabas for Christ to be crucified'. They are pro life only in word of mouth, they are the most promiscuous ever. They are anti gay but mostly diabolical - oppressing the poor and shedding blood of the innocent. I hope you can see why Trump has support in Nigeria especially among church goers.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 12:25pm On Oct 13, 2020
sanpipita:


Same Biden we saw at the debates? can't you people see this propaganda has exhausted and no longer working, if I was trump campaign team I will be pissed off by this, find new materials please.
The Trump campaign is nothing but a failure.

Begging for donations with little impact meanwhile Biden's campaign keeps making money from donations.Act blue got 700 million dollars in just months to help senate races for the dems.

The Trump campaign has nothing they are just pulling back ads while Biden hammers ads on TV radio etc.The only thing keeping Trumpolini afloat is the fact that he is still using taxpayers money to travel on airforce one when he does not pay any taxes.
Oh please let Nov 3 reach let them kick that demagogue out of office

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 12:26pm On Oct 13, 2020
Konkoja:

Do not underestimate the influence of white evangelicals in church movement in Nigeria. They influence most church leaders in Nigeria. How do you explain a hitherto brilliant/intelligent pastor now promoting conspiracies on 5G, vaccination and new world order?
Secondly, most people who associate with church in Nigerian are only religious not actually Christians. That is why they will rather call for 'release of Barabas for Christ to be crucified'. They are pro life only in word of mouth, they are the most promiscuous ever. They are anti gay but mostly diabolical - oppressing the poor and shedding blood of the innocent. I hope you can see why Trump has support in Nigeria especially among church goers.

These are words on marble.
I couldn't have said it any better.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by JuwonBobo(m): 12:27pm On Oct 13, 2020
[i][/i]A landslide victory for Joe Biden is now a realistic possibility.

The Democratic nominee has a lead of around 10 percentage points over President Trump in national polling averages, and he is up across almost all the battleground states.

Trump faces low job approval ratings, bad marks for his handling of the coronavirus pandemic and an ever-decreasing number of opportunities to change the direction of the race.

The first debate has come and gone, and the second scheduled clash has been canceled. Only one more debate, set for Oct. 22, remains.

No challenger to an incumbent president since Bill Clinton almost 30 years ago has been in such a strong position as Biden with such a short period of time until Election Day.

Still, even Democrats are reluctant to talk out loud about a Biden landslide for fear of jinxing a monumental election or encouraging complacency. Many pundits are also hedging their bets, mindful of the 2016 experience.

The national polls four years ago were — contrary to public perception — not far off the eventual result. But state-level polls, especially in the Rust Belt and the Midwest, went seriously awry.

Democrat Hillary Clinton went into Election Day ahead in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by 3.4 points, 1.9 points and 6.5 points respectively in the RealClearPolitics (RCP) polling averages. Trump carried all three states.

Trump aide Corey Lewandowski — the president’s first campaign manager in the 2016 cycle, now back on board for the 2020 effort — contended that the polls that year and the media’s coverage of them had amounted to “enormous misinformation.”

In a conference call with reporters Monday morning, Lewandowski said, “Our internal numbers — and we are very confident of where our numbers are — continue to show a very different story” from the public polls.

Still, Biden’s lead in some key battlegrounds is greater than Clinton’s was four years ago. He is about 7 points ahead in the RCP averages in both Michigan and Pennsylvania. He is almost 4 points up in Florida. New polls on Monday from the New York Times/Siena College put Biden ahead by 10 points in Wisconsin and 8 points in Michigan.

Caution is still the watchword for many experts who acknowledge that the president cannot be counted out. But, the flip side — a Biden victory by a thumping margin — is also well within the realms of possibility.

“Neither of the outcomes that looks a bit of a reach right now is out of the question,” said Steve Kornacki, national political correspondent for NBC News and MSNBC. “We are always fighting the last war where everybody remembers the surprise of 2016. But if you apply that and think — as I think we should — that Trump could win this thing, you have to entertain the other possibility: that Joe Biden could win an emphatic victory.”

Among Democrats, there is acute fear that Trump could pull a surprise for any number of reasons, ranging from voter suppression or intimidation to less mendacious explanations like an unexpectedly high turnout from his supporters.

Biden “is in a very strong position, there is no question about that,” said Mark Mellman, a Democratic pollster who is also a columnist for The Hill. But Mellman added, referring to Trump’s perceived chances of victory, “I have spent most of the last four years trying to remind people that 25-percent events really happen once every four times, and 15 percent chances really do happen about 15 percent of the time.”

Data site FiveThirtyEight gave Trump just a 13 percent chance of prevailing in November as of Monday evening. By contrast, it assessed the chances of Biden winning an Electoral College margin of more than 100 electoral votes at greater than 60 percent.

The Trump campaign highlights a number of factors as to why assessments like that are wrong. They express general skepticism of the polls, especially surveys that do not provide the party identification of respondents or crosstabs with specific demographic information.

They also suggest that some of the voters who will back the president are not being picked up properly by pollsters, perhaps because they are newly registered, or are less inclined to declare their support.

Trump’s campaign manager, Bill Stepien, has noted how heavily the president’s 2016 victory rested on rolling up huge margins in the least populous counties of key swing states.

GOP pollster David Winston said that, even with Election Day so close at hand, it is important to be circumspect given the overall political landscape.

“In terms of COVID, the economy with things shut down, and the social unrest, there is a very volatile environment,” Winston noted.

Winston also took issue with the description of Biden as the “favorite” to win the election, noting that polls are snapshots of one moment of time, not a predictor of what could happen three weeks later.

“Biden at this point has the clear advantage, but that is different from the ‘favorite.’ You have one more debate. There are other things that can occur,” he said.

But with just three weeks to go, time is running out for Trump.

The president’s main hope, for now, is that the polls are wrong.

If, instead they are accurate — or even underestimating Democratic support, as was the case in 2012 — Trump is on course for a crushing defeat.

The Hill[i]A landslide victory for Joe Biden is now a realistic possibility.

The Democratic nominee has a lead of around 10 percentage points over President Trump in national polling averages, and he is up across almost all the battleground states.

Trump faces low job approval ratings, bad marks for his handling of the coronavirus pandemic and an ever-decreasing number of opportunities to change the direction of the race.

The first debate has come and gone, and the second scheduled clash has been canceled. Only one more debate, set for Oct. 22, remains.

No challenger to an incumbent president since Bill Clinton almost 30 years ago has been in such a strong position as Biden with such a short period of time until Election Day.

Still, even Democrats are reluctant to talk out loud about a Biden landslide for fear of jinxing a monumental election or encouraging complacency. Many pundits are also hedging their bets, mindful of the 2016 experience.

The national polls four years ago were — contrary to public perception — not far off the eventual result. But state-level polls, especially in the Rust Belt and the Midwest, went seriously awry.

Democrat Hillary Clinton went into Election Day ahead in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by 3.4 points, 1.9 points and 6.5 points respectively in the RealClearPolitics (RCP) polling averages. Trump carried all three states.

Trump aide Corey Lewandowski — the president’s first campaign manager in the 2016 cycle, now back on board for the 2020 effort — contended that the polls that year and the media’s coverage of them had amounted to “enormous misinformation.”

In a conference call with reporters Monday morning, Lewandowski said, “Our internal numbers — and we are very confident of where our numbers are — continue to show a very different story” from the public polls.

Still, Biden’s lead in some key battlegrounds is greater than Clinton’s was four years ago. He is about 7 points ahead in the RCP averages in both Michigan and Pennsylvania. He is almost 4 points up in Florida. New polls on Monday from the New York Times/Siena College put Biden ahead by 10 points in Wisconsin and 8 points in Michigan.

Caution is still the watchword for many experts who acknowledge that the president cannot be counted out. But, the flip side — a Biden victory by a thumping margin — is also well within the realms of possibility.

“Neither of the outcomes that looks a bit of a reach right now is out of the question,” said Steve Kornacki, national political correspondent for NBC News and MSNBC. “We are always fighting the last war where everybody remembers the surprise of 2016. But if you apply that and think — as I think we should — that Trump could win this thing, you have to entertain the other possibility: that Joe Biden could win an emphatic victory.”

Among Democrats, there is acute fear that Trump could pull a surprise for any number of reasons, ranging from voter suppression or intimidation to less mendacious explanations like an unexpectedly high turnout from his supporters.

Biden “is in a very strong position, there is no question about that,” said Mark Mellman, a Democratic pollster who is also a columnist for The Hill. But Mellman added, referring to Trump’s perceived chances of victory, “I have spent most of the last four years trying to remind people that 25-percent events really happen once every four times, and 15 percent chances really do happen about 15 percent of the time.”

Data site FiveThirtyEight gave Trump just a 13 percent chance of prevailing in November as of Monday evening. By contrast, it assessed the chances of Biden winning an Electoral College margin of more than 100 electoral votes at greater than 60 percent.

The Trump campaign highlights a number of factors as to why assessments like that are wrong. They express general skepticism of the polls, especially surveys that do not provide the party identification of respondents or crosstabs with specific demographic information.

They also suggest that some of the voters who will back the president are not being picked up properly by pollsters, perhaps because they are newly registered, or are less inclined to declare their support.

Trump’s campaign manager, Bill Stepien, has noted how heavily the president’s 2016 victory rested on rolling up huge margins in the least populous counties of key swing states.

GOP pollster David Winston said that, even with Election Day so close at hand, it is important to be circumspect given the overall political landscape.

“In terms of COVID, the economy with things shut down, and the social unrest, there is a very volatile environment,” Winston noted.

Winston also took issue with the description of Biden as the “favorite” to win the election, noting that polls are snapshots of one moment of time, not a predictor of what could happen three weeks later.

“Biden at this point has the clear advantage, but that is different from the ‘favorite.’ You have one more debate. There are other things that can occur,” he said.

But with just three weeks to go, time is running out for Trump.

The president’s main hope, for now, is that the polls are wrong.

If, instead they are accurate — or even underestimating Democratic support, as was the case in 2012 — Trump is on course for a crushing defeat.

The Hill[/i]A landslide victory for Joe Biden is now a realistic possibility.

The Democratic nominee has a lead of around 10 percentage points over President Trump in national polling averages, and he is up across almost all the battleground states.

Trump faces low job approval ratings, bad marks for his handling of the coronavirus pandemic and an ever-decreasing number of opportunities to change the direction of the race.

The first debate has come and gone, and the second scheduled clash has been canceled. Only one more debate, set for Oct. 22, remains.

No challenger to an incumbent president since Bill Clinton almost 30 years ago has been in such a strong position as Biden with such a short period of time until Election Day.

Still, even Democrats are reluctant to talk out loud about a Biden landslide for fear of jinxing a monumental election or encouraging complacency. Many pundits are also hedging their bets, mindful of the 2016 experience.

The national polls four years ago were — contrary to public perception — not far off the eventual result. But state-level polls, especially in the Rust Belt and the Midwest, went seriously awry.

Democrat Hillary Clinton went into Election Day ahead in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin by 3.4 points, 1.9 points and 6.5 points respectively in the RealClearPolitics (RCP) polling averages. Trump carried all three states.

Trump aide Corey Lewandowski — the president’s first campaign manager in the 2016 cycle, now back on board for the 2020 effort — contended that the polls that year and the media’s coverage of them had amounted to “enormous misinformation.”

In a conference call with reporters Monday morning, Lewandowski said, “Our internal numbers — and we are very confident of where our numbers are — continue to show a very different story” from the public polls.

Still, Biden’s lead in some key battlegrounds is greater than Clinton’s was four years ago. He is about 7 points ahead in the RCP averages in both Michigan and Pennsylvania. He is almost 4 points up in Florida. New polls on Monday from the New York Times/Siena College put Biden ahead by 10 points in Wisconsin and 8 points in Michigan.

Caution is still the watchword for many experts who acknowledge that the president cannot be counted out. But, the flip side — a Biden victory by a thumping margin — is also well within the realms of possibility.

“Neither of the outcomes that looks a bit of a reach right now is out of the question,” said Steve Kornacki, national political correspondent for NBC News and MSNBC. “We are always fighting the last war where everybody remembers the surprise of 2016. But if you apply that and think — as I think we should — that Trump could win this thing, you have to entertain the other possibility: that Joe Biden could win an emphatic victory.”

Among Democrats, there is acute fear that Trump could pull a surprise for any number of reasons, ranging from voter suppression or intimidation to less mendacious explanations like an unexpectedly high turnout from his supporters.

Biden “is in a very strong position, there is no question about that,” said Mark Mellman, a Democratic pollster who is also a columnist for The Hill. But Mellman added, referring to Trump’s perceived chances of victory, “I have spent most of the last four years trying to remind people that 25-percent events really happen once every four times, and 15 percent chances really do happen about 15 percent of the time.”

Data site FiveThirtyEight gave Trump just a 13 percent chance of prevailing in November as of Monday evening. By contrast, it assessed the chances of Biden winning an Electoral College margin of more than 100 electoral votes at greater than 60 percent.

The Trump campaign highlights a number of factors as to why assessments like that are wrong. They express general skepticism of the polls, especially surveys that do not provide the party identification of respondents or crosstabs with specific demographic information.

They also suggest that some of the voters who will back the president are not being picked up properly by pollsters, perhaps because they are newly registered, or are less inclined to declare their support.

Trump’s campaign manager, Bill Stepien, has noted how heavily the president’s 2016 victory rested on rolling up huge margins in the least populous counties of key swing states.

GOP pollster David Winston said that, even with Election Day so close at hand, it is important to be circumspect given the overall political landscape.

“In terms of COVID, the economy with things shut down, and the social unrest, there is a very volatile environment,” Winston noted.

Winston also took issue with the description of Biden as the “favorite” to win the election, noting that polls are snapshots of one moment of time, not a predictor of what could happen three weeks later.

“Biden at this point has the clear advantage, but that is different from the ‘favorite.’ You have one more debate. There are other things that can occur,” he said.

But with just three weeks to go, time is running out for Trump.

The president’s main hope, for now, is that the polls are wrong.

If, instead they are accurate — or even underestimating Democratic support, as was the case in 2012 — Trump is on course for a crushing defeat.

The Hill

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by pryme(m): 12:28pm On Oct 13, 2020
Lets see how long the MSM will remain silent on the viral video appearing on the internet that Obama committed Treason with Bin Laden.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Konkoja: 12:30pm On Oct 13, 2020
minnet:


He's better than a cocaine addict
shocked
You know, I rather have a cocaine addict who know his weaknesses and accept his limitations. Rather than a semi-literate guy, shamelessly telling the world how only his father could have created a non-existent vaccine.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by JuwonBobo(m): 12:30pm On Oct 13, 2020
Even The Stock Markets Are Gearing Up For A Biden Presidency

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 12:33pm On Oct 13, 2020
AmazonTopaz:

The Trump campaign is nothing but a failure.

Begging for donations with little impact meanwhile Biden's campaign keeps making money from donations.Act blue got 700 million dollars in just months to help senate races for the dems.

The Trump campaign has nothing they are just pulling back ads while Biden hammers ads on TV radio etc.The only thing keeping Trumpolini afloat is the fact that he is still using taxpayers money to travel on airforce one when he does not pay any taxes.
Oh please let Nov 3 reach let them kick that demagogue out of office

Exactly can't they see whatever they are doing isnt working, Biden's fund raising continues to break records, this reminds me of how PDP spent time attacking Buhari's health than changing strategy.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 12:37pm On Oct 13, 2020
sanpipita:


Exactly can't they see whatever they are doing isnt working, Biden's fund raising continues to break records, this reminds me of how PDP spent time attacking Buhari's health than changing strategy.
They keep saying that Biden has small rally and the polls are wrong.
I just laugh Biden supporters are voting in person and by mail and donating money to the campaigns they do virtual meetings etc to connect with people safely.
Do you see the black turnout in Georgia they are mobilising many Biden supporters are at the grassroots while many Trump supporters are just loud mouths.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 12:37pm On Oct 13, 2020
pryme:
Lets see how long the MSM will remain silent on the viral video appearing on the internet that Obama committed Treason with Bin Laden.

If theres anything that will kill some of you it will be conspiracy theories, you will go and feed your with far-right nonsense especially on YouTube and spill it as facts, anyway another strategy Obama isnt on the ballot come November 3rd

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by pryme(m): 12:41pm On Oct 13, 2020
And the say Biden is ahead, this video is in a democratic State.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1315970849053306880

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 12:44pm On Oct 13, 2020
AmazonTopaz:

They keep saying that Biden has small rally and the polls are wrong.
I just laugh Biden supporters are voting in person and by mail and donating money to the campaigns they do virtual meetings etc to connect with people safely.
Do you see the black turnout in Georgia they are mobilising many Biden supporters are at the grassroots while many Trump supporters are just loud mouths.

They can't think for themselves they just read stuffs from right wing media people and its facts to them, no curiosity to even check if what they are being told is true

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 12:45pm On Oct 13, 2020
sanpipita:


They can't think for themselves they just read stuffs from right wing media people and its facts to them, no curiosity to even check if what they are being told is true
Worry yourself not.
They will realise they have been duped in 21 days time wink

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by minnet: 12:47pm On Oct 13, 2020
Konkoja:
You know, I rather have a cocaine addict who know his weaknesses and accept his limitations. Rather than a semi-literate guy, shamelessly telling the world how only his father could have created a non-existent vaccine.

We know your type "SJW"
grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by pryme(m): 12:47pm On Oct 13, 2020
sanpipita:


If theres anything that will kill some of you it will be conspiracy theories, you will go and feed your with far-right nonsense especially on YouTube and spill it as facts, anyway another strategy Obama isnt on the ballot come November 3rd

Stop trying your best to sound stupid, this is NOT about the election, Its about what Obama did to Seal Team 6.

Its best you find out the story about who the 6 Seals were and what they did.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by minnet: 12:49pm On Oct 13, 2020
pryme:


Stop trying your best to sound stupid, this is NOT about the election, Its about what Obama did to Seal Team 6.

Its best you find out the story about who the 6 Seals were and what they did.

The guy has no clue on what you just said

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by kophschmerzenii: 12:51pm On Oct 13, 2020
DNC is out raising the GOP nationwide 3:1, Lindsey 'Lady' Graham is on fauxnews begging for his survival on getting out raised by Mr Harrison.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 12:54pm On Oct 13, 2020
pryme:


Stop trying your best to sound stupid, this is NOT about the election, Its about what Obama did to Seal Team 6.

Its best you find out the story about who the 6 Seals were and what they did.

You are the one being stupid to think an American president will commit treason especially with a terrorist, you believe Obama killed bin Laden's double and killed seal 6 team as cover up? I have no words

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by pryme(m): 12:56pm On Oct 13, 2020
sanpipita:


You are the one being stupid to think an American president will commit treason especially with a terrorist, you believe Obama killed bin Laden's double and killed seal 6 team as cover up? I have no words

Better.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 12:57pm On Oct 13, 2020
https://apnews.com/article/f53aeebcb0f64b76a2e2a54b2b002dad

Crux of their new propaganda is that Obama sent Iran money as part of cover up, but that never happened but let's say theres no surprised here Trump and his supporters are basically programmed to lie

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by pryme(m): 12:58pm On Oct 13, 2020
minnet:


The guy has no clue on what you just said

If he did, he would have known its not about the election.

2020, what a year.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 1:17pm On Oct 13, 2020
Timiofak:


Lmao, are you sure you are in America? That is the land of madness to be candid, they unpredictable happens like it’s nothing

Dont be shocked when you see a new scene of what happened in the 2000 election
2020 is not 2016. The candidates are different and the scenario are different. Trump was a political novice in 2016 and he lied and bragged his way to con Americans while Clinton ran her campaign poorly especially towards the end of the campaign. Her husband Bill being a former President who was hated by the Right Wing Evilgelical base didn't help too and many in African American and Hispanic communities were not enthusiastic about her like they did for Obama. Now 2020, 0ver 217.000 Americans are dead due to carelessness of trump not taking the deadly virus seriously as he told Bob Woodward that he doesn't want to scare Americans when he learnt about the virus in early February through the intelligence agencies. The Financial situation in 2016 was very good under Obama and now, over 20 million Americans are looking for jobs. There's is racial strife in America that equals the time of Jim Crow era and the President is a racial rabble rouser who happens to be a vile racist not to talk being an unapologetic pathological liar. Americans are ready and motivated to kick Trump to the garbage heap of history that he belongs to. As at now, over 9 million Americans have voted in 32 States and by the end of Oct, more than 50 million Americans would gave voted by mail in or early voting. Trump's done and there is nothing he or his Nazi supporters can do except moan and wet their mouths. The River Rubicon has been crossed and there's no going back.

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