benalvino3:


Ask wirinet and Enugurangers if they have said I am shaming women and putting responsibility only on women or I am punishing them for their sexual immorality and you specifically lied I said women who go to club for one night stand are abortionists.

You still can't lie properly despite it is what you love to do so much.

budaatum:


Can someone inform this lying idiot that no one is attacking him for the above! One can't say my body my choice, then expect some stranger one picks up in a club whom one would likely never see again to have a choice in one's body!

If ben understood anything at all he'd realise, "Husband, My body my choice"! Though I wouldn't be surprised if in ben's world husband is that random guy she picked up in a club and one night stood with, then waited way past the first couple of months to abort.

budaatum:


Why should I ask anyone when I already know you are a male chauvinistic pig? Did you not take the red pill ben?

budaatum:


My body my choice ben, so long as it is in my body.

There are thankfully already laws that clearly limit the time I have to decide to abort, and husband can even sue to court to stop abortion after a certain number of weeks, and apart from the difficulty of finding a place to abort after a certain number of months.

If you come into the real world instead of dwelling in your imaginary emotional one you'd know all this.

benalvino3:


You photo says keep your policy out.

Your body your choice should supercede the laws. That's what it means incase you don't know the meaning of what you say

budaatum:


My body my choice does not need to supercede the law if the law makers considered my opinion before making the law, which is what is being determined here. Hell, I'm even fighting to be a lawmaker myself so I can help make the law, or have you not noticed I'm now in the room?

If a law is passed saying, 'not my body after x weeks', you'd be dumb to think I wouldn't travel to a neighbouring state in week x+1.

benalvino3:


You keep saying I am interested in punishing women, I have been the only one talking about women and their safety, and responsibilities and taking measures so they don't get pregnant from a stranger, budaatum you and Enugurangers have attacked me for saying women who want to have fun should not rely on a stranger not to get her pregnant since he mostly does not hope to see her again or care about her well-being.

There are a lot of women who gets pregnant and did not abort the baby but they don't know who the father of the baby is. Some have 2 to 3 kids with different father and have no idea who the fathers of their baby is.

I have said if a woman is pregnant she has a window to do the abortion, I said before the heartbeat and most time it's during rape. Some people on the other hand see abortion as contraceptive. It's unacceptable.

wirinet:

This is one of your red herring fallacies. 99.9% of women who abort were not impregnated by one night stand strangers. Most women who procure abortion are women in relationships and even marriage, who for various reasons are not prepared to go through the rigours of pregnancy, childbearing and child caring. It may be due to finances, health, lack of support from their partner, career, schooling, not wanting any more chikdren, etc. The bottom line is the woman choose not to carry the pregnancy.

And I applaud those women who despite not getting any support from irresponsible men, birth and raise their babies by themselves. The bottom line is, it was their choice and was not forced upon them by benalvino3 and co.

How will a woman know when the heartbeat of the baby starts. Is there some kind of indicator?

Appleyard:


The fact that one Belize currency is more than 200 naira is one regrettable reality that I find very pathetic about my beloved kantry. In deed, the Bubu-led APC has brought a great change--a very destructive one.

wirinet:

This is one of your red herring fallacies. 99.9% of women who abort were not impregnated by one night stand strangers. Most women who procure abortion are women in relationships and even marriage, who for various reasons are not prepared to go through the rigours of pregnancy, childbearing and child caring. It may be due to finances, health, lack of support from their partner, career, schooling, not wanting any more chikdren, etc. The bottom line is the woman choose not to carry the pregnancy.


And I applaud those women who despite not getting any support from irresponsible men, birth and raise their babies by themselves. The bottom line is, it was their choice and was not forced upon them by benalvino3 and co.


How will a woman know when the heartbeat of the baby starts. Is there some kind of indicator?

budaatum:


After this I think I be done with him on this topic.

Kokobilo87:


ya donkey ya crying? Isa wipe tha floor with ya.

budaatum:


After this I think I be done with him on this topic.

benalvino3:


Please be done, you don't have an argument you just follow the trends. Texas says 6 weeks or so(not sure) when the heart starts to beat you(possibly) and others shouting Texas Taliban. Her body her choice blab upandan but before now you have said you think abortion should not occur whet fetal development is viable. You and Texas are saying the same thing. Just that theirs is a Lil bit early.

So budaatum, when does it stop becoming her body her choice? Trend follower

benalvino3:

So budaatum, when does it stop becoming her body her choice? Trend follower

budaatum:


She has a brain ben. So long as it's in her body.

In my opinion, abortions should not be happening if the foetus has reached the point of viability except in very extreme circumstances like the life of the mother is threatened. When you decide to fight for that, please call on me to support you.

basilico:


Budaatum will answer in 6 weeks time.Be patient.

budaatum:


You've been asked twice now ben. How old is the "embryo" in the picture you think you can blackmail with?

Goodvibes007:

He can't. At 3months, it's already almost too late to have an abortion except you go to quacks. The snip shot below is from planned parenthood. That picture Ben keeps posting is almost a full grown baby (8 - 9 months old). That could also be a picture of a baby already delivered. The data in the picture says 1957 or 1967. Maybe they abort such size and age of fetus in Nigeria, I do not know.

In my opinion, abortions should not be happening if the foetus has reached the point of viability except in very extreme circumstances like the life of the mother is threatened. When you decide to fight for that, please call on me to support you.

Evangelynn:
One year ago today.


A fierce advocate for women's rights and civil rights passed on.And was replaced with a handmaid, As she is being remembered on twitter I remember her here.

You are greatly missed by a lot of women and men because if you were not replaced with a handmaid Roe v Wade which won't be overturned wouldn't be under threat.All those people who were worried about your replacement have actually been vindicated because we can now see the difference.

Sleep on Lioness of justice.

benalvino3:
Do you have a clear stance about abortion or you just argue for the sake of it?

wirinet:

This is one of your red herring fallacies. 99.9% of women who abort were not impregnated by one night stand strangers. Most women who procure abortion are women in relationships and even marriage, who for various reasons are not prepared to go through the rigours of pregnancy, childbearing and child caring. It may be due to finances, health, lack of support from their partner, career, schooling, not wanting any more chikdren, etc. The bottom line is the woman choose not to carry the pregnancy.


And I applaud those women who despite not getting any support from irresponsible men, birth and raise their babies by themselves. The bottom line is, it was their choice and was not forced upon them by benalvino3 and co.



How will a woman know when the heartbeat of the baby starts. Is there some kind of indicator?

Dapcity007:

It baffles me that leftist wants us to be sympathetic to unplanned pregnancy, every so-called unwanted pregnancy happened by the conscious act of the perpetrators both male and female to have unprotected sex, with all the birth control options from mordern contraception that are very cheap and easily accessible why would a woman choose to go raw only to spill the blood of the innocent, infact you can even go raw and with pills prevent pregnancy

Just come out with your full chest, pro-death, pro-infanticide, you see the infant as intrinsically worthless piece of cell to be discarded because you hate children fundamentally, seeing them as oppressors against the progress of women

Dapcity007:
The left can never win the morality of Abortion, a new DNA was formed, contraception is easily accessible in these mordern era unlike the past, they should just own it,they see Infants as intrinsically worthless and derive sadistic pleasure in spilling their blood to glorify women and empower them to go against their maternal instincts of nuturing to seeing children as burden and problem

Very powerful social re-engineering and re-conditoning to Masculine women so they can be career oriented instead of family focused as their primal instincts evolved to be, making women easily exploited by the coporations since they are the largest consumerism base and also they prove cheap labor force making wages go down or stagnant

wirinet:


Abortion is not a moral question, it's an economic and social one. If you are against abortion no one will force you to do one.

wirinet:

We leftist accept that every so-called unwanted pregnancy happened by the conscious act of the perpetrators both male and female to have unprotected sex. We are also aware that there are a gazillion birth control options, but the reality is unwanted pregnacies still a fact of life. We are yet to see suggestions from rightist on what to do with unwanted babies. What system or contributions have rightist made to help unwanted babies live a meaningful life?



Please look for the definition of an infant. A zygote or a foetus does not fit that definition.

I have always been against bringing children into this world to suffer. The bane of sub Saharan Africa today is millions of unplanned and unproductive children roaming the streets. Whereas a youthful population is meant to be an assert, here it is a liability.

The Irony of your argument is that you that don't hate children don't have any children, is not taking care of any children. I that hate children have three children that are well taken care of and I take care of some of my uncles children.

Dapcity007:




Slavery was economical too, there is no ethical justification for killing unborn infants

wirinet:

Look for the dictionary and legal definition of infant.

Slavery is still rife in many parts of the world today, especially in ultra religious countries that criminalise abortion.

wirinet:

Look for the dictionary and legal definition of infant.

Slavery is still rife in many parts of the world today, especially in ultra religious countries that criminalise abortion.