I just read on the front page of Nairaland that JOHESU claims fresh entry doctors enter the system at Grade level 12,equivalent to CONMESS 3! That is totally false! Fresh level doc enter at CONMESS 2/3 I. e, CONMESS 2 step 3. To break it down further, the basic salary is about 130k per month. It is call duty allowance, which is about 60k which makes it close to 195k,plus other tiny allowances. The other health workers with grievances enter at grade 10 which is equivalent to 166k.

Please, why are they clamoring for parity with doctors? It's just a grade level difference, as in the civil service, after grade 10, is 12, no grade 11. The other health professionals run shift duty, and are paid shift duty, off duty as approved. Some of them also receive call duty allowance. They can not receive allowances as doctors, as they do not work the number of hours as doctors. Doctors run 24hr calls i.e if a doctor is on call on a Monday for instance, that doctor comes to work for his morning duty on Monday morning, continues his call duty that same Monday till the next day, you will think that that is the end for the day, but no! A doctor will continue work the next day(Tuesday) to make it about 32hrs stretch! This is because doctors are never enuf, so, they work extra hours. This is not so for other healthcare professionals who work shift duty, as soon as their shift is over, it is till the next day. Not only dat, they have off duty days and are paid for it. So in essence, a doctor, who is on a 24 HR call will work with 3 diff shift nurses in 24hrs!

The ratio of doctors to nurses is far higher. It is usually 6:1. Per time in the hospital, you can only meet 30-40% of nurses on duty. The rest are off duty or not their shift! But when it comes to meetings and gatherings, you see them enmass, herein lies their strength. In the same vane, when Government wants to increase salaries, they find it easier to increase medical doctors' than other health professionals, as testified by the summation of the allocations given to it (it tends to be so enormous, that they eventually shy away from it).

To the other issues JOHESU is clamouring about, like consultancy, it is not any issue at all. If any one has gone through the rigours of training, then, let such a one be conferred the relevant title. However, there should be no conflict of interest.

The heads of hospitals can be anyone who is QUALIFIED, as stipulated by the law. Personally, I propose that the Government goes into Public/Private partnership. This will lessen all the issues in the sector.

ifeyemi200:
I just read on the front page of Nairaland that JOHESU claims fresh entry doctors enter the system at Grade level 12,equivalent to CONMESS 3! That is totally false! Fresh level doc enter at CONMESS 2/3 I. e, CONMESS 2 step 3. To break it down further, the basic salary is about 130k per month. It is call duty allowance, which is about 60k which makes it close to 195k,plus other tiny allowances. The other health workers with grievances enter at grade 10 which is equivalent to 166k.

Please, why are they clamoring for parity with doctors? It's just a grade level difference, as in the civil service, after grade 10, is 12, no grade 11. The other health professional run shift duty, and are paid shift duty, off duty as approved. Some of them also receive call duty allowance. They can not receive allowances as doctors, as they do not work the number of hours as doctors. Doctors run 24hr calls i.e if a doctor is on call on a Monday for instance, that doctor comes to work for his morning duty on Monday morning, continues his call duty that same Monday till the next day, you will think that that is the end for the day, but no! A doctor will continue work the next day(Tuesday) to make it about 32hrs stretch! This is because doctors are never enuf, so, they work extra hours. This is not so for other healthcare professionals who work shift duty, as soon as their shift is over, it is till the next day. Not only dat, they have off duty days and are paid for it. So in essence, a doctor, who is on a 24 HR call will work with 3 diff shift nurses in 24hrs!

The ratio of doctors to nurses is far higher. It is usually 6:1. Per time in the hospital, you can only meet 30-40% of nurses on duty. The rest are off duty or not their shift! But when it comes to meetings and gatherings, you see them enmass, herein lies their strength. In the same vane, when Government wants to increase salaries, they find it easier to increase medical doctors' than other health professionals, as testified by the summation of the allocations given to it (it tends to be so enormous, that they eventually shy away from it).

To the other issues JOHESU is clamouring about, like consultancy, it is not any issue at all. If any one has gone through the rigours of training, then, let such a one be conferred the relevant title. However, there should be no conflict of interest.

The heads of hospitals can be anyone who is QUALIFIED, as speculated by the law. Personally, I propose that the Government goes into Public/Private partnership. This will lessen all the issues in the sector.

u re very much objective . i lyk u fr being unbiased

Thank you

optm:
u re very much objective . i lyk u fr being unbiased

ifeyemi200:
Thank you

your kind is rare Mam.

If you are not placed on CONMESS 3 on employment then know that your CMD is ripping you off. period.
The ratio of doctors to nurses is far higher. It is usually 6:1. Per time in the hospital, you can only meet 30-40% of nurses on duty. The rest are off duty or not their shift! But when it comes to meetings and gatherings, you see them enmass, herein lies their strength. In the same vane, when Government wants to increase salaries, they find it easier to increase medical doctors' than other health professionals, as testified by the summation of the allocations given to it (it tends to be so enormous, that they eventually shy away from it).
This is false. Job evaluation and years of study is used to calculate the pay.
Check out the World Health Organisation doctor to patient ratio and nurse to patient ratio. The number of the nurses should be more than any other professionals in the hospital as per nurse patient ratio of 1 patient to 4 nurses.

OK. Before I speak what is on my mind, can you provide evidence of your claim?
As far as I know, in Nigeria, all through the federation, NO GOVERNMENT hospital is paying a Medical Officer fresh entry upto 200k. I have evidence of my claim.

Theyoungmatron:
If you are not placed on CONMESS 3 on employment then know that your CMD is ripping you off. period.
The ratio of doctors to nurses is far higher. It is usually 6:1. Per time in the hospital, you can only meet 30-40% of nurses on duty. The rest are off duty or not their shift! But when it comes to meetings and gatherings, you see them enmass, herein lies their strength. In the same vane, when Government wants to increase salaries, they find it easier to increase medical doctors' than other health professionals, as testified by the summation of the allocations given to it (it tends to be so enormous, that they eventually shy away from it).
This is false. Job evaluation and years of study is used to calculate the pay.
Check out the World Health Organisation doctor to patient ratio and nurse to patient ratio. The number of the nurses should be more than any other professionals in the hospital as per nurse patient ratio of 1 patient to 4 nurses.

I do not dispute the fact that nurses are more world wide in the hospital, I just explained why they are more, because of their shift system, so naturally, where only 3-4 doctors ( because of the call nature of their work) are needed in a department, about 18- 36 nurses will be required in that same department.

Also, as you said, pay should be calculated by the amount of time invested into learning, and other technicalities.

Theyoungmatron:
If you are not placed on CONMESS 3 on employment then know that your CMD is ripping you off. period.
The ratio of doctors to nurses is far higher. It is usually 6:1. Per time in the hospital, you can only meet 30-40% of nurses on duty. The rest are off duty or not their shift! But when it comes to meetings and gatherings, you see them enmass, herein lies their strength. In the same vane, when Government wants to increase salaries, they find it easier to increase medical doctors' than other health professionals, as testified by the summation of the allocations given to it (it tends to be so enormous, that they eventually shy away from it).
This is false. Job evaluation and years of study is used to calculate the pay.
Check out the World Health Organisation doctor to patient ratio and nurse to patient ratio. The number of the nurses should be more than any other professionals in the hospital as per nurse patient ratio of 1 patient to 4 nurses.