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Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by Desyner: 1:57am On May 25, 2018 |
AZeD1:Sorry to disturb but do you know what inverters are? They store electrical energy chemically to battery. Power can be stored on a small To medium scale but not on a large scale. The there are over 6 methods of starring electrical power. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by AZeD1(m): 9:44am On May 25, 2018 |
Desyner:If you had constant power you would not need an inverter. Just you would not need a generator. 3 Likes |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by AZeD1(m): 9:52am On May 25, 2018 |
Desyner:I'm not confusing power generation with consumption. The guy was/is saying build bigger plants to make power cheaper and I'm saying power price is determined by the regulator not by the size of your plant so economy of scale is not a factor. 3 Likes |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by ba7man(m): 11:24am On May 25, 2018 |
CodeTemplar:Its not compulsory you take the tolled road. There are free alternate routes. I ply that route regularly and I plan my movement based on my pocket. 2 Likes |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by Belluchii: 11:45am On May 25, 2018 |
[color=#006600][/color]its a good thing that it has already being passed because it means that the journey to deregulate Nigeria has begun and i think when it commence, will make the lagos state ultimately achieve energy security for the state. |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by CodeTemplar: 3:45pm On May 25, 2018 |
AZeD1:If I understand what the poster you replied is saying, he is saying what I said earlier. Nobody is arguing that inverter will be needed if PHCN supplies power constantly. What he is saying is that power generated with CCGT gas plants come much cheaper because of proper reuse of the enormous heat given off. It is a well known phenomenon. Just humble yourself and admit you goofed. 3 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by CodeTemplar: 3:50pm On May 25, 2018 |
AZeD1:Stop using you proximity as a kid to noisy power plant to argue against well known industry standard blindly. Have you even read the CCGT thing at all? You are just plain stubborn and proud behind a keyboard. may be I should get on PC and start sampling screenshots for you. 4 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by AZeD1(m): 4:13pm On May 25, 2018 |
CodeTemplar:How does this relate of economics of scale? This was your initial post CodeTemplar: And I told you that the size of the power plant doesn't matter because the price of power is determined NERC so even if you build a 3000MW power plant, you would still sell at the same price with someone who builds a 200MW power plant. Economy of scale happens when production increase with fewer inputs cost (This usually happens when you buy in bulk) but when it comes to power, the gas required to power a 56MW turbine is different from what is required to power 132MW turbine. CCGT has no factor here because you can use CCGT in a small plant and a big one. 4 Likes |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by AZeD1(m): 4:15pm On May 25, 2018 |
CodeTemplar: Lol, if only you knew what I know. 3 Likes |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by aribisala0(m): 4:18pm On May 25, 2018 |
OkutaNla: Shove it? Where? |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by CodeTemplar: 4:36pm On May 25, 2018 |
AZeD1:You don't understand jack about power systems in Nigeria talkless of how power systems work. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by AZeD1(m): 4:38pm On May 25, 2018 |
CodeTemplar:Coming from someone that doesn't know the difference between Transmission and Distribution? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by CodeTemplar: 4:43pm On May 25, 2018 |
AZeD1:Stop using NERC as an excuse. Why do you think power in Northern Nigeria is generally more expensive than in the south? The cost of generation and transmission differs greatly due to factors like distance of transmission, distribution of last mile settlements, gas supply cost, and power plant size. 4 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by CodeTemplar: 4:50pm On May 25, 2018 |
AZeD1:You have proven to be a barefaced shameless liar so I won't bother myself proving to you I properly understand power transmission and distribution. If you wouldn't mind, why does power system use step up and step down transformers ? Let me see if you know that. 3 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by aribisala0(m): 4:52pm On May 25, 2018 |
CodeTemplar:That is easy naa If you are sending power upstairs you need step up but for downstairs you need step down transformer |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by AZeD1(m): 4:54pm On May 25, 2018 |
CodeTemplar:I don't know the price of power in the North but if its more expensive its because Nigeria runs a centralized transmission network. Power generated from Hydro power stations are cheaper than those generated from Gas and all the hydro power stations are located in the north. If Kanji and Shiroro didn't have to send to the National grid first, power would be cheaper in the North. As for the bold part, that's why Lagos is going for medium to small sized power plants, so they are closer to the people who need them. Also read what you wrote in the bold part and compare with this " Solution will be to build a large scaled power plant with good scale of economy to drive down price of the power that will be eventually sold to industries" The part in red is what brought our argument. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by CodeTemplar: 4:56pm On May 25, 2018 |
aribisala0:0 / 100. Try again Sir. I am sure that other guys is frantically consulting Google but can't grasp it due to many ignorant assumptions interfering with his assimilation of how power system works. 2 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by CodeTemplar: 4:58pm On May 25, 2018 |
AZeD1:What are you smoking sir. re-read what you just wrote and correct another ignorant post before I take you shine further. 3 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by aribisala0(m): 5:02pm On May 25, 2018 |
CodeTemplar:What do you know? Step up is for going upstairs and stepdown for coming down. If the current goes upstairs and downstairs that is alternating current 1 Like |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by AZeD1(m): 5:07pm On May 25, 2018 |
CodeTemplar:Two major sources of power in Nigeria, Water and GAS. Water or Hydro power plants generate electricity cheaper than gas (its common sense water is free, gas is not). The problem with hydro stations is its initially expensive to build (you have to build a dam) and also for Nigeria, were water levels vary during the year which limits the out put from the power station. Nigeria runs a centralized transmission network which means all power generated is first sent to the National grid. The national control centre is in Osogbo. NCC then sends the power to different parts of the country for onward transmission to end users. If you want, I would explain what happens in Nigeria when there's a system collapse, and the process for restoring it. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by AZeD1(m): 5:08pm On May 25, 2018 |
CodeTemplar: CodeTemplar: 1 Like |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by CodeTemplar: 5:10pm On May 25, 2018 |
aribisala0:So if I understand you perfectly step up and step down transformers are used to create AC right ? Pathetic answer. 4 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by CodeTemplar: 5:13pm On May 25, 2018 |
AZeD1: In a bid to prove you have something upstairs you have digressed and you also misfiring in your new direction of this discussion. Stop yarning trash about national grid. tell us the use of transformer. both step up and step down. tell us. since you say scale of economics doesn't influence power cost in Nigeria also tell us why northern region pay more for something that is regulated by NERC. 4 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by aribisala0(m): 5:13pm On May 25, 2018 |
CodeTemplar: The wiring is used to create AC if you need it If you need AC you send the wires upandan so you can get AC You know this na? This is elementary physics |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by AZeD1(m): 5:17pm On May 25, 2018 |
CodeTemplar:Lol point were I am misfiring. |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by CodeTemplar: 5:19pm On May 25, 2018 |
aribisala0:Haba Nigeria is finished. Oga which course did you study ? 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by CodeTemplar: 5:20pm On May 25, 2018 |
AZeD1:I have modified the post u quoted. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by aribisala0(m): 5:29pm On May 25, 2018 |
CodeTemplar: Maturity and adulthood. You nko? 1 Like |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by AZeD1(m): 5:30pm On May 25, 2018 |
CodeTemplar: 1) I don't know the cost of power in the north 2) This was my initial post, see the part in red. AZeD1: 2 Likes |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by CodeTemplar: 5:38pm On May 25, 2018 |
aribisala0:Hustle. School of Hard Knocks. Bsc in Hustle and Experience. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by aribisala0(m): 5:40pm On May 25, 2018 |
CodeTemplar:but no common sense? 2 Likes |
Re: Lagos To Begin Embedded Power Project In July 2018 by CodeTemplar: 5:44pm On May 25, 2018 |
aribisala0:Are we going personal now. Just answer that small introductory technology question and stop abusing me. 4 Likes 3 Shares |
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