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This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by BadBradley: 5:47pm On May 24, 2018
Why Tecno, Infinix And itel Don't sell in Europe And US!

After my factual evaluation of transsion Holdings products, namely Tecno, Itel, and infix,  http://lodega.com/community/phones-and-tablets/why-every-sensible-nigerian-should-avoid-tecno-infinix-and-itel-brands/ a lot of fan-boys blew their top with emotional reactions. Some deftly pointed out I was on a propaganda mission to kill off the brand, others claimed I was a Samsung fan boy even when I never extolled Samsung.

The  truth is Tecno, infinix and Itel are getting better daily, the only problem is they are using poor, ignorant Africans as beta testers of their subpar phones and getting richer for it by selling lies, using bloggers to claim features their phones don't have or hardware it isn't equipped with.

So the ugly truth is that Africans are testing these phones without any international standard certificate or FCC or EC seal of conformity.

This is why Tecno, Infinix is avoiding regions of the world where strict conformity in regulation are observed, e.g US and EU. Because not one single Transsion Holdings brand could be found in these countries!

But Alas, true global Chinese brands like Xaomi, ZTE, Huawei, Gionee etc are all over US and Europe, because unlike Tecno they all got their international standard conformity approved and verified both by EU and US regulatory bodies.

Worthy of note is that HTC originating from a tiny country like Taiwan built the first android phone, the G1 and it's a global brand.

So the big question is why is Tecno and infinix hiding in Africa and India? Why isn't Tecno or infinix carrying EC and FCC seals?

Notably, one overzealous fanboy went about to claim infinix, one of Transsion Holdings brands uses Corning Gorrila glass on its phone when a listing of  brands using Corning doesn't show any Transsion Holdings brand using its product or technology. Yet it is claimed that Infinix Zero 5 uses Corning Gorilla Glass 3.

Yes we found other Chinese brands like Huawei, Xaomi, ZTE, Gionee etc. But no Tecno or Itel or Infinix. To see list of devices using Corning Gorrila glass see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_devices_with_Gorilla_Glass

Also a list of OEMs and mobile manufacturers using Qualcomm chipset did not appear to list Transsion Holdings as using its chipsets. Yet Tecno claims an Infinix model uses Qualcomm's Snapdragon 400 series. It's a barefaced lie!

For list of companies using Snapdragon 400 series see here  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Qualcomm_Snapdragon_systems-on-chip

We cannot afford to take the claims of Transsion Holdings at face value when no reputable, globally acknowledged critic/journalist have listed or reviewed this devices for what they truly are. For what we know, Transsion Holdings is exploiting poor regions of the world with lies and false claims.

Source: www.lodega.com

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Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by Oyetboy(m): 6:02pm On May 24, 2018
Itel marketers food is ready.... grin grin grin same way you people infiltrated the other thread

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Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by Badookelzi(m): 6:11pm On May 24, 2018
This Guy Is Looking For Website Visitors, Nothing More

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Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by HunWI: 7:29pm On May 24, 2018
You are saying the truth...

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Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by OHIsIManuEL(m): 7:48pm On May 24, 2018
Badookelzi:
This Guy Is Looking For Website Visitors, Nothing More
But he said the sole truth and nothing but the truth

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Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by millomaniac: 7:51pm On May 24, 2018
Badookelzi:
This Guy Is Looking For Website Visitors, Nothing More

How? When the full story is already here. Just don't be biased and read again, he is absolutely right. Unfortunately the harsh economic reality wont let Nigerians have time for these type of things.

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Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by Drdreyy: 8:00pm On May 24, 2018

What is wrong with this guy Are you been paid to bring these phone brands down or what? Why do you keep creating threads to tarnish the image of these phone manufacturers?

Simply because you were unfortunate to purchase a defective unit from one of these manufacturers is not enough reason to come here and condemn all of them.... I can remember i bought one infinix some time in early 2015, and it's still working perfectly up till now even after falling severally. Although I have given it out and the person is still using it.

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Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by jetz(m): 8:08pm On May 24, 2018
BadBradley:
Why Tecno, Infinix And itel Don't sell in Europe And US!

After my factual evaluation of transsion Holdings products, namely Tecno, Itel, and infix,  http://lodega.com/community/phones-and-tablets/why-every-sensible-nigerian-should-avoid-tecno-infinix-and-itel-brands/ a lot of fan-boys blew their top with emotional reactions. Some deftly pointed out I was on a propaganda mission to kill off the brand, others claimed I was a Samsung fan boy even when I never extolled Samsung.

The  truth is Tecno, infinix and Itel are getting better daily, the only problem is they are using poor, ignorant Africans as beta testers of their subpar phones and getting richer for it by selling lies, using bloggers to claim features their phones don't have or hardware it isn't equipped with.

So the ugly truth is that Africans are testing these phones without any international standard certificate or FCC or EC seal of conformity.

This is why Tecno, Infinix is avoiding regions of the world where strict conformity in regulation are observed, e.g US and EU. Because not one single Transsion Holdings brand could be found in these countries!

But Alas, true global Chinese brands like Xaomi, ZTE, Huawei, Gionee etc are all over US and Europe, because unlike Tecno they all got their international standard conformity approved and verified both by EU and US regulatory bodies.

Worthy of note is that HTC originating from a tiny country like Taiwan built the first android phone, the G1 and it's a global brand.

So the big question is why is Tecno and infinix hiding in Africa and India? Why isn't Tecno or infinix carrying EC and FCC seals?

Notably, one overzealous fanboy went about to claim infinix, one of Transsion Holdings brands uses Corning Gorrila glass on its phone when a listing of  brands using Corning doesn't show any Transsion Holdings brand using its product or technology. Yet it is claimed that Infinix Zero 5 uses Corning Gorilla Glass 3.

Yes we found other Chinese brands like Huawei, Xaomi, ZTE, Gionee etc. But no Tecno or Itel or Infinix. To see list of devices using Corning Gorrila glass see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_devices_with_Gorilla_Glass

Also a list of OEMs and mobile manufacturers using Qualcomm chipset did not appear to list Transsion Holdings as using its chipsets. Yet Tecno claims an Infinix model uses Qualcomm's Snapdragon 400 series. It's a barefaced lie!

For list of companies using Snapdragon 400 series see here  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Qualcomm_Snapdragon_systems-on-chip

We cannot afford to take the claims of Transsion Holdings at face value when no reputable, globally acknowledged critic/journalist have listed or reviewed this devices for what they truly are. For what we know, Transsion Holdings is exploiting poor regions of the world with lies and false claims.

Source: www.lodega.com
bravo bruh you said it all, but naija no go ever gree o...sha everything in naija has kleg starting with d economy

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Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by grandstar(m): 8:14pm On May 24, 2018
BadBradley:
Why Tecno, Infinix And itel Don't sell in Europe And US!

After my factual evaluation of transsion Holdings products, namely Tecno, Itel, and infix,  http://lodega.com/community/phones-and-tablets/why-every-sensible-nigerian-should-avoid-tecno-infinix-and-itel-brands/ a lot of fan-boys blew their top with emotional reactions. Some deftly pointed out I was on a propaganda mission to kill off the brand, others claimed I was a Samsung fan boy even when I never extolled Samsung.

The  truth is Tecno, infinix and Itel are getting better daily, the only problem is they are using poor, ignorant Africans as beta testers of their subpar phones and getting richer for it by selling lies, using bloggers to claim features their phones don't have or hardware it isn't equipped with.

So the ugly truth is that Africans are testing these phones without any international standard certificate or FCC or EC seal of conformity.

This is why Tecno, Infinix is avoiding regions of the world where strict conformity in regulation are observed, e.g US and EU. Because not one single Transsion Holdings brand could be found in these countries!

But Alas, true global Chinese brands like Xaomi, ZTE, Huawei, Gionee etc are all over US and Europe, because unlike Tecno they all got their international standard conformity approved and verified both by EU and US regulatory bodies.

Worthy of note is that HTC originating from a tiny country like Taiwan built the first android phone, the G1 and it's a global brand.

So the big question is why is Tecno and infinix hiding in Africa and India? Why isn't Tecno or infinix carrying EC and FCC seals?

Notably, one overzealous fanboy went about to claim infinix, one of Transsion Holdings brands uses Corning Gorrila glass on its phone when a listing of  brands using Corning doesn't show any Transsion Holdings brand using its product or technology. Yet it is claimed that Infinix Zero 5 uses Corning Gorilla Glass 3.

Yes we found other Chinese brands like Huawei, Xaomi, ZTE, Gionee etc. But no Tecno or Itel or Infinix. To see list of devices using Corning Gorrila glass see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_devices_with_Gorilla_Glass

Also a list of OEMs and mobile manufacturers using Qualcomm chipset did not appear to list Transsion Holdings as using its chipsets. Yet Tecno claims an Infinix model uses Qualcomm's Snapdragon 400 series. It's a barefaced lie!

For list of companies using Snapdragon 400 series see here  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Qualcomm_Snapdragon_systems-on-chip

We cannot afford to take the claims of Transsion Holdings at face value when no reputable, globally acknowledged critic/journalist have listed or reviewed this devices for what they truly are. For what we know, Transsion Holdings is exploiting poor regions of the world with lies and false claims.

Source: www.lodega.com

From what you write, you don't seem to understand the issue itself.

There's loads of patent infringement by Techno and Infinix and theyd be in deep trouble were they to sell in the US or any country with strong copyright laws.

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Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by Drdreyy: 8:26pm On May 24, 2018
Badookelzi:
This Guy Is Looking For Website Visitors, Nothing More

Don't mind the pained nigga, he probably bought a defective unit from one of those phone manufacturers and he is here ranting and hating. This is not the first thread he will create to vent his anger/frustration.

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Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by BadBradley: 9:08pm On May 24, 2018
Badookelzi:
This Guy Is Looking For Website Visitors, Nothing More

Oh, man is wiki a personal website too? How come you're deflecting the facts with irrelevant issues.

These are the facts.

* Transsion Holdings announced its recent devices use Corning Gorrila glass and Corning doesn't list Tecno or infinix or Itel as OEMs using its technology or hardware

* Transsion Holdings says some of its devices use Qualcomm's Snapdragon chipset. Again Qualcomm didn't list Tecno or infinix or Itel using its Chipset.

* Two global bodies, the EC and FCC certify all global brands to affirm they comply with international standards. Transsion Holdings do not send their models to these bodies for certification.

I understand why you choose to avoid facts for cheap smear, afterall, it's not a nice realisation that you're a consequence of scam.

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Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by Bamz(m): 9:22pm On May 24, 2018
Lol so many salty posters. The truth is like Alomo bitters. grin

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Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by Dollywood(m): 9:39pm On May 24, 2018
Don't u have better things to do... u wanna promote ur site ?/...
Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by Dopenigga(m): 9:39pm On May 24, 2018
hihihi..xiaomi or gionee all the way mehn
Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by eki2000(m): 9:44pm On May 24, 2018
I realized this earlier and dumped their sorry ass for Gionee. Gionee is same as samsung, imagine my X1s beat my Former Camon cx in camera and display.

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Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by Nobody: 10:24pm On May 24, 2018
fake inferior products. Person go come. Now say, infinix and tecno are cheap, and that nobody can afford Samsung or HTC, LG. Etc. The truth is most of these phones are old but cheaper and better. Example. LG g5 now goes for 50k with snapdragon 820.bring the highest tecno phone, can't compete with it. So why buy fake inferior things at price u can buy better older phones whig still performs better than the recent tecno or infinix?
Phones to buy include
Giomee
Xiaomi
Honor series. The hone 7x cost 200 bucks on amazon. That 62k
Older versions of phones such as
Lg g5
Lg g6
Samsung s6, s6 edge
Samsung s7 s7 edge
HTC 10
HTC ull
Google pixel
Nubia z11
Sony Xperia xz, xz premium. Etc
All these are phones you can get below 100k right now from amazon new or used.

We have tecno phones costing 60k or 70k.why no buy honor 8 or 7x.
Or even xiaomi mi 5?



Cc greenhulk Oya appear here. grin

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Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by ThatIgboBoy: 10:26pm On May 24, 2018
this article is filled with the gospel truth. I replied team Gionee

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Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by typicalgamer(m): 10:29pm On May 24, 2018
Drdreyy:
What is wrong with this guy Are you been paid to bring these phone brands down or what? Why do you keep creating threads to tarnish the image of these phone manufacturers?

Simply because you were unfortunate to purchase a defective unit from one of these manufacturers is not enough reason to come here and condemn all of them.... I can remember i bought one infinix some time in early 2015, and it's still working perfectly up till now even after falling severally. Although I have given it out and the person is still using it.

so says the guy who spends all of his time in romance section

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Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by MrRichmond: 10:38pm On May 24, 2018
looking at things from an objective pov, this guy just said the pure truth.
We have to realize that using these phones can be dangerous, we cannot be sure if the radio waves they emit conforms to global standards.
Cancer is real.

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Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by HunWI: 11:12pm On May 24, 2018
Some annoying users supourti these brands will come comment good of them whereas they know the truth one was telling he knows but he earns his living advertising for them
MrRichmond:
looking at things from an objective pov, this guy just said the pure truth.
We have to realize that using these phones can be dangerous, we cannot be sure if the radio waves they emit conforms to global standards.
Cancer is real.

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Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by polimaf(m): 11:45pm On May 24, 2018
You don't understand international business yet @op. what will you say about Oppo in India, Imobile in France, and other phones in several countries that are not global?

You don't understand the whole phone business thing, just drop your pen and go to sleep.
Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by Amaechi5(m): 12:15am On May 25, 2018
Badookelzi:
This Guy Is Looking For Website Visitors, Nothing More
This your comment is very disappointing bro

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Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by Olasum(f): 5:46am On May 25, 2018
okk
Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by Sharon6(f): 5:49am On May 25, 2018
Truth, truth and nothing but the TRUTH. Team Huawei all the way.




PLEASE CHECK MY SIGNATURE.

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Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by Drdreyy: 6:24am On May 25, 2018
typicalgamer:


so says the guy who spends all of his time in romance section


shut the fvck up and check my profile, i rarely visit nairaland and that is why I have few posts considering the fact i registered since 2016. Even my active sections doesn't show romance.

The few topics i created under romance are NOT about asslicking women or boyfriend/girlfriend relationship talk like most dudes do. Infact i choose to create topics there because of traffic like the last one on Trump's ice bucket challenge.

Do your research properly before you criticize.

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Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by Nobody: 7:27am On May 25, 2018
CHESTER48:
fake inferior products. Person go come. Now say, infinix and tecno are cheap, and that nobody can afford Samsung or HTC, LG. Etc. The truth is most of these phones are old but cheaper and better. Example. LG g5 now goes for 50k with snapdragon 820.bring the highest tecno phone, can't compete with it. So why buy fake inferior things at price u can buy better older phones whig still performs better than the recent tecno or infinix?
Phones to buy include
Giomee
Xiaomi
Honor series. The hone 7x cost 200 bucks on amazon. That 62k
Older versions of phones such as
Lg g5
Lg g6
Samsung s6, s6 edge
Samsung s7 s7 edge
HTC 10
HTC ull
Google pixel
Nubia z11
Sony Xperia xz, xz premium. Etc
All these are phones you can get below 100k right now from amazon new or used.

We have tecno phones costing 60k or 70k.why no buy honor 8 or 7x.
Or even xiaomi mi 5?



Cc greenhulk Oya appear here. grin

Hmm, You can't live without me u had to mention my name. Anyway let me make this brief.

Yes Tecno, Infinix and Itel don't market their phones in the US, I don't even think they intend to, at least not in the nearest future. The US smartphone market is saturated and the US are critical of Chinese phones. Tecno is just a small company. Before u attack Tecno, first answer this question. Why is it that Xioami, Oppo, Huawei, ZTE don't sell their phones in the US. These are bigger names than Tecno. Aha.. so there is ur answer. So if those big guns can't enter the US, who come be small Tecno?

And to answer ur questions about alternative phones to buy.. first I need to make it clear. I don't use any Transsion phone. Though my wife uses Infinix hot 4 Pro which has been serving her since 2016. I also bought an infinix hot s same time she bought hers which was my second phone while Galaxy s6 was my main phone. I've long sold mine. It was a decent phone, though I had to change the charging port once, and my wife has also changed her charging port, but phone is still serving her. Now that we have gotten that out of the way, as a lot of people already know, my daily driver right now is LG V20 which has been phenomenal and I don't have any reason to change it right now. But there are lots of things people look for in a phone. Because I'm a heavy user doesn't mean everyone has to be a heavy user. Because I can buy a used flagship doesn't mean everyone has to buy a used phone, some people want their phones brand new.

Let's see some of the phones u mentioned
LG G5: u said its 50k, show me the shop where it is sold for 50k brand new. Good specs, poor design, crap battery.
LG G6: Again show me where it is sold, LG didn't even sell this phone in Nigeria. The used one is sold for around 100k and above

Samsung galaxy s6: I can't even recommend this for my enemy. Very poor battery life, still over 50k for used one
Samsung galaxy s7/edge: Brand new one is still over 170k, used one between 80-120k
HTC 10: This one no even dey market, show me where it is sold
HTC U11: bro are u just mentioning phones for the sake of it? HTC didn't sell this phone in Nigeria, the used one is still over 100k
Sony Xperia XZ and XZ premium: I give up. Do u have any of these for sale at 60k? I will buy 3

I know u can order for these phones from overseas but how many people do u think have the time to order phones. So someone cannot enter a shop and buy a phone to start using immediately again abi? Me I don't have a problem ordering phone any product, but everyone cannot be like me, majority still prefer to enter shop buy what they want. And not everyone will like used phones.

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Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by Nobody: 7:30am On May 25, 2018
BadBradley:
Why Tecno, Infinix And itel Don't sell in Europe And US!

After my factual evaluation of transsion Holdings products, namely Tecno, Itel, and infix,  http://lodega.com/community/phones-and-tablets/why-every-sensible-nigerian-should-avoid-tecno-infinix-and-itel-brands/ a lot of fan-boys blew their top with emotional reactions. Some deftly pointed out I was on a propaganda mission to kill off the brand, others claimed I was a Samsung fan boy even when I never extolled Samsung.

The  truth is Tecno, infinix and Itel are getting better daily, the only problem is they are using poor, ignorant Africans as beta testers of their subpar phones and getting richer for it by selling lies, using bloggers to claim features their phones don't have or hardware it isn't equipped with.

So the ugly truth is that Africans are testing these phones without any international standard certificate or FCC or EC seal of conformity.

This is why Tecno, Infinix is avoiding regions of the world where strict conformity in regulation are observed, e.g US and EU. Because not one single Transsion Holdings brand could be found in these countries!

But Alas, true global Chinese brands like Xaomi, ZTE, Huawei, Gionee etc are all over US and Europe, because unlike Tecno they all got their international standard conformity approved and verified both by EU and US regulatory bodies.

Worthy of note is that HTC originating from a tiny country like Taiwan built the first android phone, the G1 and it's a global brand.

So the big question is why is Tecno and infinix hiding in Africa and India? Why isn't Tecno or infinix carrying EC and FCC seals?

Notably, one overzealous fanboy went about to claim infinix, one of Transsion Holdings brands uses Corning Gorrila glass on its phone when a listing of  brands using Corning doesn't show any Transsion Holdings brand using its product or technology. Yet it is claimed that Infinix Zero 5 uses Corning Gorilla Glass 3.

Yes we found other Chinese brands like Huawei, Xaomi, ZTE, Gionee etc. But no Tecno or Itel or Infinix. To see list of devices using Corning Gorrila glass see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_devices_with_Gorilla_Glass

Also a list of OEMs and mobile manufacturers using Qualcomm chipset did not appear to list Transsion Holdings as using its chipsets. Yet Tecno claims an Infinix model uses Qualcomm's Snapdragon 400 series. It's a barefaced lie!

For list of companies using Snapdragon 400 series see here  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Qualcomm_Snapdragon_systems-on-chip

We cannot afford to take the claims of Transsion Holdings at face value when no reputable, globally acknowledged critic/journalist have listed or reviewed this devices for what they truly are. For what we know, Transsion Holdings is exploiting poor regions of the world with lies and false claims.

Source: www.lodega.com

Simople question is why don't Xiaomi, Huawei, ZTE, Oppo, etc sell their phones in the US. At least these are bigger names. If those ones no fit enter who come be small Tecno?

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Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by Riogeese(m): 7:37am On May 25, 2018
sad
Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by slawomir: 7:38am On May 25, 2018
am never a fan of all those brands like tecno, infinix

those people are using Africa to sell their stupid product especially infinix

imagine infinix hot 5 and hot 3 have the same ram

I was like what da Bleep. why produce infinix hot 5 when you not going to step up the ram
Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by johnmattew: 7:38am On May 25, 2018
copyright infringement,quality and safety are the major reasons

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Re: This is Why Tecno, Infinix Will Never Try Selling Its Models In US Or Europe! by Revolva(m): 7:38am On May 25, 2018
5 Features Of Nokia 7 Plus That will make you Ditch Your Phone

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