Neoteny:


There is no military where illegal orders are to be blindly followed. Even the military has rules of engagement which are a sort of codified ethics.

In Nuremberg so many Nazis tried to walk that path, known as 'the Nuremberg defense', but they quickly found out their folly.

The Nuremberg Principle IV states:

"The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him."

This is what nailed Dostler.

Gentlesniper:

Depends on what you mean by Illegal orders. The case of Sgt Rogers is not an illegal order as far as the power in command then was concerned, but you might call it a morally unjustified one. Sgt Rogers only followed orders

QuietHammer:


Hmmm. I have a lot to learn about the two great war

EMMAUGOH:
lol, this ur post eh.. Imagine we just need one looter

Alhajiemeritus:
I am not sure there is anything like moral justification in the military book.

I think they go by the sayings 'Orders are Orders and Obey the Last Order.

zombieHUNTER:



Children of hate
Spreading falsehood on social media just because of religious affiliation to the caliphate and ethnic sentiments.... Enjoy your 30k.. you have been noticed.

Neoteny:


Any order that goes against the Nuremberg Principle is an illegal order, else the Nazis would not have been hanged.

Violation of fundamental human rights is not excused by any military policies.

A non-combatant or a combatant who surrenders is protected by international law and the common rules of engagement.

Gentlesniper:

like someone rightly asked, who tried the Americans for the war crimes perpetrated? or are we to believe that they stuck all through to the rules of engagement?
Had Sgt Rogers rejected that order then, he would have been six feet down and nothing would have happened.
How many of such violations of human rights and military rules of engagement in Nigeria have been tried ranging from the Asaba massacre, odi massacre, even the execution of some military operations in Nigeria, and so many of them.
Disobey a millitary order and get your ass court marshalled.

CaptJeffry:
Read the beginning of my second paragraph well before raising unnecessary tribal sentiment.

Killing is bad and condemnable especially that of the innocent but when a soldier is given an order by a superior, he is not to be blamed for following the order.

Unluckrees:
Imagine if his name was Sgt. Onyebuchi.

azimibraun:
Hit Man indeed... Somebody just hide for corner shoot an unarmed woman and he was hailed for precision and deadliness more than the Man who took out JKF from the window of a storey building. As a kid, I thought the so called Sgt Rogers could shoot down an angel in heaven the way those old newspaper men and lawyers described him. I wonder what they wold have called the Goons who worked for Pablo Escobar. Hide shoot woman run with federal government backing and he is a deadly hitman. Story.

Khd95:
He ends up with spinal cord injurys , karma na dope bissssh

Lipscomb:
Jonathan stupid man released mustapha for political gain.

Paperwhite:
This man was really a die-hard killer with lots of blood on his hands.

Mynd44:

In the military, orders that are not morally justified or in line with the military's morals are not to be followed no matter who gives you such order.

Bundaweber:


if I hear. if today the lotus orders a nuclear strike are you telling me the military officer is allowed to decline? there is a reason for saying obey the last order. militaries are built on the obedience of orders irrespective of how morally bankrupt such order is.

Mynd44:

In the military, orders that are not morally justified or in line with the military's morals are not to be followed no matter who gives you such order.

CaptJeffry:
Speak of what you are sure bro. I'm yet to see one Igbo man that celebrates Hamza Mustapha.

Personally, I may abhor unjustified killings but I respect intelligent and disciplined men. In the military, order is one thing that must be followed whether morally justified of not and I guess Mustapha was disciplined enough to do that.

ehinmowo:



So we shud nt hold d millitary respobsible for the Asaba Massacre of d Igbos then?

Neoteny:


You're talking about something else completely different.

Just because you stand the risk of being punished for obeying an illegal order does not legalize it in any way.

And when you talk about US military excesses, in most cases it was not an organized, systematic blitzkrieg..it is most often either collateral damage, or the excess of a few whom in many cases were investigated, court-martialed and jailed.

The US has among the most disciplined, propaganda-averse military.

Alariiwo:
Hamza Al Mustapha that the buffoon released and is celebrated by Igbos till date.

Well thanks to MKO and other freedom fighters who laid down their lives so we can have democracy.
They are the true heroes we will never forget.

SlayerForever:




Though I understand your angle you are terribly ignorant I swear down. It stinks to high heavens. The US is almost just as guilty as Germany when it comes to war crimes.

Neoteny:

Ok sir.
I'm sure I'm not as educated as you, so I defer my position.
But there's a difference between Germany and the Third Reich.
Just saying.
But what do I know, right?

SlayerForever:
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What is the connection between this garbage you spilled here and the comment he posted?

ehinmowo:


Hey brain dead! I dnt waste my time on idiot like u. Read what he said. If u still cnt find correlation, then it's not my fault u hv brain paralysis.

davillian:
He was just doing his job.
Rejecting abachas orders is a death sentence.

phase1:


But you yorubas today agree with Buhari that Abacha was a fantastic man.

1miccza:


He doesn't understand that he's talking to someone in the ''know'', someone in the ''thick of things''...

maasoap:


And that's exactly what people are saying here, he had options. If had given the order to kill his immediate family, wouldn't he have preferred a death sentence?

davillian:

If abacha wants his family dead he will have to do it.
Because if he refuses he is going to die and his family will also be killed
But its a tough decision for any man to make though