Martinez19:
Given the following:
1) you suddenly saw #547,000,000 in your bank account.
2) you can take the money secretly, no one will found, the money would be yours forever and there won't be any consequences.

Would you take the #547m or will you give it back to the rightful owner?

1stola:

Senseless question

tartar9:
Why direct it specifically to atheists as if the average Christian won't pocket the money without giving a second thought.

tartar9:
Why direct it specifically to atheists as if the average Christian won't pocket the money without giving a second thought.

hopefulLandlord:
In a perfect world I'd definitely send it back, inafct the mistake of sending money to your account couldn't have happened in that world

But in this imperfect world, What I'd do is return it to the rightful owner but I'd make sure its the rightful owner I'm returning it to not a criminal who would take advantage of it like if you return found money to the Nigeria police you're just making who you handed over the money to rich as he's not the rightful owner and all they'll tell you is that they would return the money to whoever reports missing money but that's the end of it

For such a big amount of money like you stated its too big for you to even run away with as its close to $2M which means you can be rest assured it would be rectified unless it was intentionally put there by a generous person who just wanted to dish you such an amount and you can always trace such to the sender if you so desire

I'd wait for a few days to see if bank would contact me or rectify it. if they don't I'd presume someone really just sent me the money, although I'd consult my lawyer to find out the legality of my possessing the money to avoid legal troubles and if I'm in the clear its mine


Note that what you think you'd do when imagining such scenario and what you'd do if such scenario comes up might actually differ from each other

Martinez19:
Given the following:
1) you suddenly saw #547,000,000 in your bank account.
2) you can take the money secretly, no one will found, the money would be yours forever and there won't be any consequences.

Would you take the #547m or will you give it back to the rightful owner?

DontBeStupid:
Very senseless question.
Lazy youths everywhere... Smh

Martinez19:
Given the following:
1) you suddenly saw #547,000,000 in your bank account.
2) you can take the money secretly, no one will found, the money would be yours forever and there won't be any consequences.

Would you take the #547m or will you give it back to the rightful owner?

hopefulLandlord:
In a perfect world I'd definitely send it back, inafct the mistake of sending money to your account couldn't have happened in that world

But in this imperfect world, What I'd do is return it to the rightful owner but I'd make sure its the rightful owner I'm returning it to not a criminal who would take advantage of it like if you return found money to the Nigeria police you're just making who you handed over the money to rich as he's not the rightful owner and all they'll tell you is that they would return the money to whoever reports missing money but that's the end of it

For such a big amount of money like you stated its too big for you to even run away with as its close to $2M which means you can be rest assured it would be rectified unless it was intentionally put there by a generous person who just wanted to dish you such an amount and you can always trace such to the sender if you so desire

I'd wait for a few days to see if bank would contact me or rectify it. if they don't I'd presume someone really just sent me the money, although I'd consult my lawyer to find out the legality of my possessing the money to avoid legal troubles and if I'm in the clear its mine


Note that what you think you'd do when imagining such scenario and what you'd do if such scenario comes up might actually differ from each other

johnydon22:


I'm taking it.

Why?

Martinez19:
so you won't give the owner? Na to start balling in Enugu be the way forward?

johnydon22:
You know it.

Which owner?

As owu dey blow me reach? Nonsense and ingredients

Martinez19:
Given the following:
1) you suddenly saw #547,000,000 in your bank account.
2) you can take the money secretly, no one will found, the money would be yours forever and there won't be any consequences.

Would you take the #547m or will you give it back to the rightful owner?

AgentOfAllah:


I agree with the assessment that this question does not convey any sense because it is not self-consistent. My reasons are laid out as follows:

(1) To suggest there would be no consequence, as the second clause does, implies that the sudden remission would neither have a positive nor a negative effect. In other words, no one will suffer any harm by the remission, and at the same time, the money won't be useful to anyone in any way. This is an absurd clause that immediately makes the question of no practical relevance.

(2) Let's say we address the absurdity with the axiom that "for every event, there is a consequence". We would then be able to reframe the second clause of the question with a more appropriate predicate; that is, there would be no NEGATIVE consequence. This then exposes the paradoxical nature of the question because there still remains the problem of certainty which is imposed by the second clause. Here, it is implied that the recipient is certain that there is an absence of harm. The only pathway through which this is humanly possible is if the previous owner voluntarily ceded ownership to me, the recipient, and made me aware of this concession. In this case, the question of returning it to its "rightful owner" makes no sense because I am now the rightful owner.

I see no other way through which my certainty of the absence of harm can coexist with the idea that I am not the rightful owner, but it is also possible that I may not have been exhaustive in my reasoning. So maybe op can make further clarifications.

Martinez19:
Given the following:
1) you suddenly saw #547,000,000 in your bank account.
2) you can take the money secretly, no one will found, the money would be yours forever and there won't be any consequences.

Would you take the #547m or will you give it back to the rightful owner?

hopefulLandlord:


Note that what you think you'd do when imagining such scenario and what you'd do if such scenario comes up might actually differ from each other

Martinez19:
lol. I am an atheist. I am very aware of the hypocrisy of christians.

budaatum:

Well, perhaps just be aware of the hypocrisy of human beings in future!

budaatum:
Silly, really. Ordinary, I'm walking down the street and find a 1000 Naira note.
How many of us of any ideology would shout "na who get dis 1000 Naira!?"

If the money is in my account, I will leave it there unless in the imperfect world of your analogy 2) really applies.
Though, how I would know it does confounds me.
Do I get a note perhaps saying "no one will know if you secretly take the money" ?
And what constitutes "secretly" ? And how the heck do I know the "rightful owner"?
And why isn't the "rightful owner" asking for their money back?

After a while, like a few weeks, though I bet no more than 3 days, I'll take 10million.
And if nothing happens, then 100 and so on until I have taken it all.

If some sort of guilt sets in, I might become a Christian just so I can ask for forgiveness,
but trust that I would have made sure to have utilised a large portion of the money so that repentance does not mean paying it all back.
I might move to a country that has no extradition rights with the country my account is in before that though.
I am sure that when I am basking in the sun on an Hawai beach (if it has no extradition rights, mind, and I will check first!), remorse is the last thing I'd feel.
If I do, a Pina Colada would quickly cure me of it!

budaatum:

What you think you'd do is different from what you'd actually do? What lies! What I'd actually do is exactly what I'd do once I get over the fear of being caught! Not many would consider not keeping the money. And even if I considered giving it back, it would be after negotiating a finders fee of 50% And that would be only because for some reason, my finders fee is not a hundred percent!

Martinez19:
Calm down. This philosophy is way too much. When I said "have no consequences", I simply meant no consequences to you if you abscond with the cash. You won't be caught and no one would know you stole the money. That's the meaning of the assumption.

hopefulLandlord:


What I mean is that how you'd think you'd do in theory might not be what you'd do if the situation really comes up. I spoke generally and not just restricted to the OP's question

for instance you'd hear someone say they'd run and tackle a shooter shooting up a school then say those that froze and didn't do anything while the shooter kept killing people are cowards. Such person calling others cowards may have frozen too if he were in that situation but sitting at the comfort if his own laptop with his heart pumping normally and his head totally clear made him think he would've been the hero

Martinez19:
Given the following:
1) you suddenly saw #547,000,000 in your bank account.
2) you can take the money secretly, no one will found, the money would be yours forever and there won't be any consequences.

Would you take the #547m or will you give it back to the rightful owner?

Martinez19:
Eg. Those that once told themselves "no matter what happens, I will never commit suicide" and some years later things happened in their lives and they understood the state of mind of suicide victims.