DaLover:

This is the context in which I wrote
According to become Kobojunkie, what is good for the Geese is not good for the gander,

Again, STOP LYING!!!

DaLover:

FG can force shell deep offshore design office to leave huston and come to lagos but not to ND.
He 4gets that the argument that Lagos has more and better qualified graduates than ND also applies to Lagos VS Huston

This is the third time I am asking you to provide information on this claim you keep making above. Lagos FORCING Shell , again, What? Do you mind shining more light on exactly what you mean there? I have asked this two times already and I am tired of asking. Did the same Lagos FORCE other companies to do the same?

Kobojunkie:

Were they really denying Nigerians this skill or were Nigerians denying themselves these skills by refusing to educate their own in this and do all possible to INVITE them to take advantage of the skills we have, not skills we do not have, to offer?

I really hate the way we continue to analyze issues -- always placing ourselves in position of victim in it all. Countries around the world have seen fit to train their own and INVITE investors from all over to come take advantage of skills and services available. China is a classic example of this. China has to invite thousands with tantalizing packages and today, it is become the center of the global economy essentially. Even America today has seen fit to offer incentives upon incentives to help bring companies and investors back to America. What are ND Governor's and people doing? Why should the companies be IN CHARGE of sending your own people to school just because they are drilling the area? Why are we always to quick to play victim when it is all too clear what the problem is
But ever consider that Lagos offers what the ND areas do not? Why should Lagos be denied these investors just because ND, which probably cannot offer what Lagos does currently does, wants them? Please we need to start putting sentiment aside and see things as they really are. Can ND offer these companies a better package than they currently get in Lagos today? Please, we need to start thinking like educated people do and not continue to try to play victim, even after we know how it all works.

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What is the special thing Lagos can offer that the ND can't?[/size] Is it oil? I demand to know, because you are not sounding smart.
The only reason, oil coys are based in Lagos is because of majority groups exploiting minorities. Period!

They should all return to Niger Delta!!!

do you people think moving oil companies from lagos (as if na only there dem dey) will cripple lagos?

think again.

and while you're at it, learn to demand accountability from your elected representatives instead of whining everywhere with your neverending symphony of how others are always responsible for every single problem you have.

bad belle is not good!

Just imagine the Refinery in kaduna, thats a big joke itself and I hear someone say bad belle.

^^ whatever!

keep assuming people didnt know what they were doing, and na only your group get sense!

if they move the single refinery to niger delta nko?

what would happen then?

instead of griping over a refinery in kaduna, what stops you from asking for additional refineries for your area?

She's right. WIth the millions of dollars the states get, most each month, you would expect by now that there would be serious development going on in these areas. . .  from clean up, to push for more investors and requests to build refineries and what not. Instead, what we keep hearing of are how money is wasted on white elephant projects and how everyone else is to blame for the continued decay experienced in most of the area. It is disgusting at this point.

About a year and a half ago, we would probably not be this critical but we are talking more than a billion dollars later now. And what still? More finger pointing and less substance to show for all that money. COme on!!

tpiah:

do you people think moving oil companies from lagos (as if na only there dem dey) will cripple lagos?

think again.

and while you're at it, learn to demand accountability from your elected representatives instead of whining everywhere with your neverending symphony of how others are always responsible for every single problem you have.

bad belle is not good!

Cripple Lagos? . . .Please! The whole of Nigeria is built on ND wealth, even your beloved Lagos gets a monthly wage from Abuja. Have you demanded accountability from your elected representatives as to why the whole of the country is parasitic on ND oil while the ND is the most polluted wetland and oil producing area in the World? Have you asked your governor why your state is a parasite?

We are talking about equity from the FG and you sit down to ask daft questions. With a little thought, you will find that everybody will benefit from justice in the ND.

^^let me leave you to your daydreams about where the [not your] oil money is going.

while you're busily listening to the cash register jingling in your visions, be sure to calculate the percentage of this same oil money which is outside nigeria.

na only lagos dey hungry you?

Why are people here thinking like cave men ALOT OF COMPANIES ARE BASED IN NEW YORK YET THEIR FACTORIES AND PLACES OF PRODUCTION ARE OTHER PLACES AROUND AMERICA AND ALSO IN CHINA AND INDIA !!!!

This is 2010 Oil Companies have offices in ND states- NDELTANS should be concerned about job creation in the ND not where companies are based.

Companies have their own right to be based anywhere they like and THATS all companies- [size=13pt]Obatoil owned by Prince (Dr.) F.E.O. Akinruntan FROM ESE ODO/ ILAJE Oil producing area and his Oil company is headquatered in Ikoyi Lagos.[/size]

So fagget beaf dont make it about tribe or region- companies would rather be based in Lagos and Abuja-

tpiah:

^^let me leave you to your daydreams about where the [not your] oil money is going.

while you're busily listening to the cash register jingling in your visions, be sure to calculate the percentage of this same oil money which is outside nigeria.

na only lagos dey hungry you?

I simply turned your question back on you. People foolishly remember "your elected representatives" and other inanities when it come to the ND; forgeting that the whole country is shamefully 100% dependent on oil and they should be asking their "elected representatives", why.

If the oil money was properly managed, nobody would be asking questions today. In fact, Nigeria would have been a developed country, instead we are populated with folk that ask questions about "your elected representatives" through their arseholes.

^^keep positing imbecilic responses thinking you sound wise.

you actually sound daft and local, but that's never bothered you in the past, so why should it worry you now.

and on that note, i leave you and your fellow whiners to your griping!

crank it up a notch!

post a few s.tupid pictures while you're at it.





"the whole country is dependent on oil"

what an idiotic and utterly retarded statement. hiss.

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Sad old woman. It is never too late to learn. So you want to deny that the whole country is dependent on oil? Ok its dependent on high tech industry, computer chip manufacturing etc. Ode. . . A fool at 40+ is fool forev. . . 

sjeezy8:

Why are people here thinking like cave men ALOT OF COMPANIES ARE BASED IN NEW YORK YET THEIR FACTORIES AND PLACES OF PRODUCTION ARE OTHER PLACES AROUND AMERICA AND ALSO IN CHINA AND INDIA !!!!

This is 2010 Oil Companies have offices in ND states- NDELTANS should be concerned about job creation in the ND not where companies are based.

Companies have their own right to be based anywhere they like and THATS all companies- Obatoil owned by Prince (Dr.) F.E.O. Akinruntan FROM ESE ODO/ ILAJE Oil producing area and his Oil company is headquatered in Ikoyi Lagos.

So fagget beaf dont make it about tribe or region- companies would rather be based in Lagos and Abuja-

Listen bonehead, Indian companies whose business is in India are not based in new York. Same goes with Chinese or any other nationality companies. Do you get?

Another thing, we are not talking about indegenious oil coys like "Obatoil owned by Prince (Dr.) F.E.O. Akinruntan". Read before making comments, it helps you sound smart, you know. . . like you had your fruit and veg at the right age. Ode.

and s/he blows hot gas.

beaf no get sense-

If an indigenous company and a man from a Oil producing area doesnt want to base his company in his own militant Area-what would make a multinational company full of whites(who are more likely to be kidnapped) want to base it there?

lol- you better concern yourselves with federalism and not where companies are based.

yeye boy

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Frederick Enitiolorunda Obateru Akinruntan does not sound like an ND name, so he is free to base himself in his own place or wherever. We don't care.
All foreign oil companys with 40% FG contracts must be based where the oil is.

Run along to bed now, its quite clear you are tired.

No mind them , Do you know anybody from the south south who has money and can put his oil company in the south south. If they would not blow it up.

They would blow it up. Is that what you want, for some people to blow it up. ?? Where is warri and delta. 90% of the oil company are already in the Niger delta. Is it the empty building in lagos you are talking about.

Why dont you go and see what they have built in Abuja.

That is oil company in abuja and centre bank, That is where you oil company offices are located , not lagos state.  Go to abuja.


So change the topic , to if they would move the oil company from abuja to niger delta.



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everytime na lagos lagos.

abeg leave lagos alone and look to your east abi you never heard of fernado po.

Is it the empty building in lagos you are talking about

i dont know for them nah.


the slave trade ended centuries ago. Lagos is no longer a slave market competing with other slave markets. Some people should get this into their thick heads and stop acting as if they're in a time warp.

If peace and stability comes to the Niger Delta, then there should not be any problem with forcing the oil companies to relocate to the Niger Delta.

But there is no peace and security.

And the refinery in Kaduna is quite crazy. Most oil is refined near the source of oil. Look at Saudi Arabia.

EzeUche:

If peace and stability comes to the Niger Delta, then there should not be any problem with forcing the oil companies to relocate to the Niger Delta.

But there is no peace and security.

And the refinery in Kaduna is quite crazy. Most oil is refined near the source of oil. Look at Saudi Arabia.

Tell me about it! Oil is pumped all the way from Warri to be refined in Kaduna, wasting money that could be better utilised elsewhere. How much sense does it make?
I get your point about peace in the ND, but the oil companies are better off facing up to their responsibilities and accepting any consequences shoddiness or oppression might bring (like BP is doing in the US). No point allowing them create problems, ruin lives and then run off elsewhere.

Beaf:

Tell me about it! Oil is pumped all the way from Warri to be refined in Kaduna, wasting money that could be better utilised elsewhere. How much sense does it make?
I get your point about peace in the ND, but the oil companies are better off facing up to their responsibilities and accepting any consequences shoddiness or oppression might bring (like BP is doing in the US). No point allowing them create problems, ruin lives and then run off elsewhere.

That is true, the oil companies are a major factor in why there is so much instability in the region. The degradation of the environment needs to be stopped.

The oil companies need to be held accountable but too bad the Nigerian government is in bed with these crooks. You see how BP is coming under fire in the states. The same thing needs to happen with Shell.

Pumping oil to Kaduna is quite crazy. Why not refine oil in the Niger Delta? It is not like that refined oil cannot be distributed around the country.

Nigeria is a cursed nation.

nothing is new under the sun!

Oil is pumped all the way from Warri to be refined in Kaduna, wasting money that could be better utilised elsewhere. How much sense does it make?

The Druzhba pipeline (Russian: нефтепровод «Дружба»; also had been referred as the Friendship Pipeline and the Comecon Pipeline), according to foreignpolicy.com, is the world's longest oil pipeline in fact one of the biggest oil pipeline networks in the world. It carries oil some 4,000 kilometres (2,500 mi) from the eastern part of the European Russia to points in Ukraine, Belarus, Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, Czech Republic, and Germany.

The network also branches out into numerous pipelines to deliver its product throughout the Eastern Europe and beyond. The name "Druzhba" means "friendship", alluding to the fact that the pipeline was intended to supply oil to the energy-hungry western regions of the Soviet Union, to its "fraternal socialist allies" in the former Soviet bloc, and to western Europe. Today, it is the largest principal artery for the transportation of Russian (and Kazakh) oil across Europe.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druzhba_pipeline

EzeUche:

That is true, the oil companies are a major factor in why there is so much instability in the region. The degradation of the environment needs to be stopped.

The oil companies need to be held accountable but too bad the Nigerian government is in bed with these crooks. You see how BP is coming under fire in the states. The same thing needs to happen with Shell.

Pumping oil to Kaduna is quite crazy. Why not refine oil in the Niger Delta? It is not like that refined oil cannot be distributed around the country.

Its not just that. All oil depo's in the ND where not allowed to distribute products (other areas could), it is only after Jonathan came in that the rubbish was stopped; that is why fuel prices have come down drastically. You have to ask, why these foolish and wicked polices?
The only answers one can come up with are that some Hausa - Fulani cabals were prostituting the country for peanuts (if you recall, all our gas is sold until 2015, while we have none for domestic use). Yoruba people are just being used as much as ND people, but some like Tpia can't see it that all Nigerians are being flogged on foreign markets in a new slavery; she's thinking about grand buildings they don't benefit from. In the past, some were sold with mirrors, these days, its for a drop of oil.

you people arent even serious.

i just checked, and nigeria actually has a minimum of three state owned refineries.

one in kaduna, one in warri and one in port harcourt.

yoruba and lagos wey dey disturb una sleep, do not have any refineries at all.

so what exactly is the problem here if not bad belle.

I've said it that if readjustments and restructurings for justice is the achievement of a Goodluck Jonathan term in office, that is all we need. Nigeria can never develop without justice.

This fuel depot thing is a big eye popper for me!  

No wonder why some Lagos based local oil companies suddenly boomed during the OBJ era.

Until these economic sabotages fueled by conqueror mentality is addressed, Nigeria will remain an economic midget.

Nigeria, China sign $23 bln refinery deal
(AFP) – May 14, 2010


Nigeria and a Chinese state firm have signed a 23 billion dollar deal to build three refineries and a petrochemical complex in one of Africa's biggest tie ups with China, officials said Friday.

China is already the number one investor in Africa -- ranging from oil in Algeria to mines in Zambia -- and a senior NNPC official told AFP the new deal might be the biggest that China has made in the continent.

"NNPC aims to accelerate the construction of new refineries in Nigeria to stem the flood of imported refined products into the country, currently estimated at 10 billion dollars," the statement said.President Goodluck Jonathan arrived Friday in Nigeria's oil capital of Port Harcourt for an official visit to inaugurate gas and oil projects.

The construction of the new refineries "will reinforce the ongoing oil and gas reforms in Nigeria", as envisaged in legislation which has been before the Nigerian parliament for almost a year and imminent deregulation of the downstream sector the country's oil industry, the NNPC statement said.

Anglo-Dutch oil group Shell in February criticised the bill, saying mistakes in it, if passed into law, will take years to correct.

Shell's vice president for Africa Ann Pickard has warned that the country could lose 50 billion dollars in investment in the next decade if the bill was passed in its current form.

Jonathan has promised to pursue government reforms of the oil sector to make it profitable and end corruption.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gMFTqMPAD1RJhjW4qGyV16ZXK7Ww


and this is aside from the private refineries on ground.

tpiah:

you people arent even serious.

i just checked, and nigeria actually has a minimum of three state owned refineries.

one in kaduna, one in warri and one in port harcourt.

yoruba and lagos wey dey disturb una sleep, do not have any refineries at all.

so what exactly is the problem here if not bad belle.

I am shocked!!!! Every kid knows the number and location of refineries in Nigeria.
You don't even know whats going on in Nigeria and you're arguing? You should be thoroughly ashamed.
I now understand where your crazy positions come from; you better come back home before you are totally lost abroad.

oh shut up.

someone on this thread was griping about an oil refinery in kaduna as if there are none elsewhere and that's what i was responding to.

you people should try to sound informed when you type.

the fact remains: there are no refineries at all in the southwest, so carry your giraffe eyes to your own backyard.

Why should he shut up?

what a daft question.

What a daft answer you gave.