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Re: Video Gaming Desperately Needs It's "Black Panther" Moments by Gmajor(m): 3:02pm On Jul 24, 2018
Horus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYdVutCKigQ

'Black Panther' becomes top-grossing superhero film of all time
SMH. This is obviously outdated
Re: Video Gaming Desperately Needs It's "Black Panther" Moments by blaksril(m): 3:05pm On Jul 24, 2018
pyxon:



Check again!
Please lets not be beguiled by sentiment Black Panther is number 9 on the top grossing movies which is a worthy achievement. But in true terms of top grossing what is used is "adjusted for inflation" i.e where the amount the movie grossed at that time when converted to present value is ascertained. This is where you find "gross smashers" like Gone with the wind, Jaws, Sound of Music etc. Black Panther is nowhere.
Re: Video Gaming Desperately Needs It's "Black Panther" Moments by PotatoSalad(m): 3:17pm On Jul 24, 2018
Marcus from Watch Dogs 2 is black
Franklin from GTA 5 is black

There are black game developers, check video game credits. Even, most of game developers are Asians.

Normally, it's the black mentality. Nobody wants to sit down in front of the computer for 3 years modeling, animating and coding. Instead, we want sharp money to buy Benz, Gucci and latest iPhones. If you want more black developers or 3D animators, parents should get their kids gaming consoles at a younger age. It'll build that fire. Also, we need 3d animation schools in Nigeria. Availability of rigs to people and at cheaper prices too. That way we could do something.
Animation and game development are difficult and requires lot of finance and resources.

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Re: Video Gaming Desperately Needs It's "Black Panther" Moments by MobileGees: 3:18pm On Jul 24, 2018
blaksril:

Please lets not be beguiled by sentiment Black Panther is number 9 on the top grossing movies which is a worthy achievement. But in true terms of top grossing what is used is "adjusted for inflation" i.e where the amount the movie grossed at that time when converted to present value is ascertained. This is where you find "gross smashers" like Gone with the wind, Jaws, Sound of Music etc. Black Panther is nowhere.


So a movie that reached no 9 top grossing movie of all time is "no where". You think say he easy to get to that stage
Re: Video Gaming Desperately Needs It's "Black Panther" Moments by Horus(m): 3:20pm On Jul 24, 2018
teewhydope:


don't be ridiculous. where will u put titanic, avatar, star wars, avengers 1& 2

I am not the author of the video, but the answer to your question is in the video
Re: Video Gaming Desperately Needs It's "Black Panther" Moments by franklingud(m): 3:23pm On Jul 24, 2018
sureteeboy:
Lol. Black Panther grossed less than 1.4 Billion.
1. Avatar (2009) $2,787,965,087
2. Titanic (1997) $2,187,463,944
3. Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015) $2,068,223,624
4. Avengers: Infinity War) 2018) $2,043,009,571
5. Jurassic World (2015) $1,671,713,208
Black Panther is the 9th highest grossing film of all time with a worldwide gross of $1,346,596,927

Yea. Yea I have seen it. Black panther didn't disappoint. It's not as if I got a dime from their million dollar movie.
Re: Video Gaming Desperately Needs It's "Black Panther" Moments by cao(f): 3:43pm On Jul 24, 2018
Vasaratti16:
[img]https://1.bp..com/-5QdU4jJ-Ic8/WGMjSNDvhoI/AAAAAAAAAYk/qUnhQgmFZ_MQCY3mHG4JdmoARsctxq3iACLcB/s1600/black-video-game-characters-2016.jpg[/img]

Once upon a time in 2005, I saw my brother playing a game he called Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas . I shouldn't have been watching this game since I was only eight and there were massive amounts of violence and profanity. But there was something that really resonated with me at that time: my brother was playing as someone that was black.



This was surprising since in most games I would play, it was either an animal-like character or a white person that I controlled. The only games that I can remember playing from that time that had black playable characters were Beyond Good and Evil and the WWE games. But I felt like Carl Johnson, the main character in GTA: San Andreas, resonated with me because he looked like me.

Using the movie as a reference, the Hollywood movie industry has been shy of black protagonist for decades until the advent of the ground breaking Black Panther. In case you're having trouble keeping up Black Panther is currently the fourth top grossing movie of all time that just how profitable the potrayal of the black culture in movies could get.



But why can't we get same in video games?




Modern gaming is certainly guilty of playing things too safe. For every Lucio, CJ, Lee Everett or an RPG where you have free reign over skin colour and gender, there are endless white protagonists.
There’s nothing WRONG with this, but try and list any well-known black protagonists, or female black protagonists. We’re in desperate need of projects that not only exude interest and engagement through everything I’ve mentioned, but to create games that wear these qualities on their sleeve, empowering, educating and progressing society in tow.


I remember the first time I played Mass Effect when I was 14, and I looked up to the character David Anderson. He was just this father figure and sort of a mentor to Commander Shepard, and he went against all the stereotypes of a black male in gaming at the time. I feel like he was a great representation of what a black male can be without verging into stereotype territory.

And let me not forget to say he was so damn cool.





I didn't get into the Final Fantasy series until just a few years ago, but I will always remember Final Fantasy VII because of how turned off I was from the game due to Barrett Wallace. He was loud, as the speech text would make him seem. He would curse at people like Cloud when he was mad, and he was also big and muscular. This seriously disappointed me, because it is not uncommon to find black stereotypical characters in Japanese media.


Understanding what makes these things offensive and not playing into stereotypes of black people is something Japanese developers and anime writers need to learn before feeding into it.




Developers also have a problem with making black people the main antagonist or an "evil character" in games. One of the biggest offenders in this regard is Resident Evil 5. Since this game takes place in Africa, you are expecting to see a lot of black people. The problem is, you are playing as Chris Redfield , a white man cry , in the game who is killing a multitude of black people throughout.


This led to controversy and backlash when the game was first shown to the public. I remember being on the playground in school back when I was in Jss3 talking about this to friends, because I was such a big Resident Evil fan and this came as a huge shock.


The same can even be said for Resident Evil 4, which has you killing a bunch of Spanish people as a gruff, white man.






We need developers to start adding more black, playable characters in gaming, be they black males or females. We need more characters like Lincoln Clay and Marcus Holloway because there aren't many, and that is a shame.


https://www.gameskinny.com/0nwmx/we-need-more-black-protagonists-in-gaming
Imma need you to start writing your own stuff...see how you're claiming somebody else's life...that's the real shame.

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Re: Video Gaming Desperately Needs It's "Black Panther" Moments by blaksril(m): 3:44pm On Jul 24, 2018
Please read my comment again and see where i stated "adjusted for inflation". That is criteria for of " all time". Black Panther is not the 9th grossing of all time. Its nowhere.
MobileGees:



So a movie that reached no 9 top grossing movie of all time is "no where". You think say he easy to get to that stage
Re: Video Gaming Desperately Needs It's "Black Panther" Moments by zealadjay(m): 3:46pm On Jul 24, 2018
Must me always use google Google dis, google dat!!! Why can't we MAMA it (mama search engine)...
Heheheheheheheheheheheheheh

Re: Video Gaming Desperately Needs It's "Black Panther" Moments by phemmyfour: 3:51pm On Jul 24, 2018
usmanktg2:
The blacks kill its own. I developed a game "The Sky Island", 12 years ago when I was in JSS3. No sponsorship, No support even from family members. I ended up being the only player of my game cheesy cheesy cheesy
grin grin
Re: Video Gaming Desperately Needs It's "Black Panther" Moments by MrRichmond: 4:07pm On Jul 24, 2018
usmanktg2:
The blacks kill its own. I developed a game "The Sky Island", 12 years ago when I was in JSS3. No sponsorship, No support even from family members. I ended up being the only player of my game cheesy cheesy cheesy

Kudos to you bro!
What game engine did u use for your project?
I was also a 'pseudo' game developer, in that I created and coded characters for mugen game engine back in SS1.
I wanted to pursue game development, but lost interest along the way....
cry
Re: Video Gaming Desperately Needs It's "Black Panther" Moments by Nobody: 4:24pm On Jul 24, 2018
"I have not finish thinking of how to steal millions and go to Europe, buy the latest car and house, its to develop game for the children of people that are thinking of how to kill me and rape my wife and turn my children to house help"

That's the thinking of an average BLACK MAN...

Sorry to say this but we will always be black... always...
Re: Video Gaming Desperately Needs It's "Black Panther" Moments by thedondada(m): 5:04pm On Jul 24, 2018
usmanktg2:
The blacks kill its own. I developed a game "The Sky Island", 12 years ago when I was in JSS3. No sponsorship, No support even from family members. I ended up being the only player of my game cheesy cheesy cheesy

Put it on play store
Re: Video Gaming Desperately Needs It's "Black Panther" Moments by websuccess(m): 5:18pm On Jul 24, 2018
There is konyi keyboard for most Nigerian language

Premiumwriter:
exactly.

Imagine one dude was arguing that why don't we have a keyboard in our local language, saying the white art turning us into "intellectual slaves"

I was like, so it's the white that'll invent keyboards for every African language
Re: Video Gaming Desperately Needs It's "Black Panther" Moments by LucemFerre: 6:04pm On Jul 24, 2018
usmanktg2:
The blacks kill its own. I developed a game "The Sky Island", 12 years ago when I was in JSS3. No sponsorship, No support even from family members. I ended up being the only player of my game cheesy cheesy cheesy

Do you still develop games?
Re: Video Gaming Desperately Needs It's "Black Panther" Moments by LucemFerre: 6:06pm On Jul 24, 2018
MrRichmond:


Kudos to you bro!
What game engine did u use for your project?
I was also a 'pseudo' game developer, in that I created and coded characters for mugen game engine back in SS1.
I wanted to pursue game development, but lost interest along the way....
cry

Why una dey quit na, shoo... What if Jack Ma had quitted?
Re: Video Gaming Desperately Needs It's "Black Panther" Moments by jantavanta(m): 8:21pm On Jul 24, 2018
Interesting question. There was a time someone asked "Why don't we make our own home videos?" Today, we have Nollywood.

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Re: Video Gaming Desperately Needs It's "Black Panther" Moments by LucemFerre: 9:28am On Jul 25, 2018
jantavanta:
Interesting question. There was a time someone asked "Why don't we make our own home videos?" Today, we have Nollywood.



Nollywood isn't a film industry it's a drama industry. A fvcking not-funny skit industry of you will. Even the name wasn't original. And later y'all complain about slavery when y'all are the ones who continually and intentionally enslave yourselves. Nollywood is a joke. Over 20 years and they still can't film a proper accident scene (That's like one of the easiest scenes in vfx these days). Don't even get me started on the story. It's something to cry for.

And I hope and pray when we have our gaming industry it doesn't, in any way turn out like the "drama" industry we have.
Re: Video Gaming Desperately Needs It's "Black Panther" Moments by Offixialsecret(m): 1:41pm On Jul 25, 2018
usmanktg2:
The blacks kill its own. I developed a game "The Sky Island", 12 years ago when I was in JSS3. No sponsorship, No support even from family members. I ended up being the only player of my game cheesy cheesy cheesy

kk let be patterner then
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Re: Video Gaming Desperately Needs It's "Black Panther" Moments by cao(f): 1:58pm On Jul 25, 2018
LucemFerre:


Nollywood isn't a film industry it's a drama industry. A fvcking not-funny skit industry of you will. Even the name wasn't original. And later y'all complain about slavery when y'all are the ones who continually and intentionally enslave yourselves. Nollywood is a joke. Over 20 years and they still can't film a proper accident scene (That's like one of the easiest scenes in vfx these days). Don't even get me started on the story. It's something to cry for.

And I hope and pray when we have our gaming industry it doesn't, in any way turn out like the "drama" industry we have.
It is still the second highest after Bollywood.
Re: Video Gaming Desperately Needs It's "Black Panther" Moments by LucemFerre: 2:38pm On Jul 25, 2018
cao:

It is still the second highest after Bollywood.

Hehe... Highest in what? Quality of movies, number of films/year, or what?
Re: Video Gaming Desperately Needs It's "Black Panther" Moments by jantavanta(m): 10:34am On Jul 31, 2018
LucemFerre:


Nollywood isn't a film industry it's a drama industry. A fvcking not-funny skit industry of you will. Even the name wasn't original. And later y'all complain about slavery when y'all are the ones who continually and intentionally enslave yourselves. Nollywood is a joke. Over 20 years and they still can't film a proper accident scene (That's like one of the easiest scenes in vfx these days). Don't even get me started on the story. It's something to cry for.

And I hope and pray when we have our gaming industry it doesn't, in any way turn out like the "drama" industry we have.

Ha! Ha! I like that. A Drama Industry. Observe closely that I called Nollywood products "Home Video" and not "Film".

Hollywood celebrates America. Bollywood celebrates India. Nollywood does not celebrate Nigeria, even if it is the "3rd largest".

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Re: Video Gaming Desperately Needs It's "Black Panther" Moments by cao(f): 10:04pm On Jul 31, 2018
jantavanta:


Ha! Ha! I like that. A Drama Industry. Observe closely that I called Nollywood products "Home Video" and not "Film".

Hollywood celebrates America. Bollywood celebrates India. Nollywood does not celebrate Nigeria, even if it is the "3rd largest".

Actually, it's the 2nd largest.

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Re: Video Gaming Desperately Needs It's "Black Panther" Moments by Mckandre(m): 7:15am On Aug 03, 2018
Vasaratti16:
https://www.gameskinny.com/0nwmx/we-need-more-black-protagonists-in-gaming

[img]https://1.bp..com/-5QdU4jJ-Ic8/WGMjSNDvhoI/AAAAAAAAAYk/qUnhQgmFZ_MQCY3mHG4JdmoARsctxq3iACLcB/s1600/black-video-game-characters-2016.jpg[/img]

Once upon a time in 2005, I saw my brother playing a game he called Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas . I shouldn't have been watching this game since I was only eight and there were massive amounts of violence and profanity. But there was something that really resonated with me at that time: my brother was playing as someone that was black.



This was surprising since in most games I would play, it was either an animal-like character or a white person that I controlled. The only games that I can remember playing from that time that had black playable characters were Beyond Good and Evil and the WWE games. But I felt like Carl Johnson, the main character in GTA: San Andreas, resonated with me because he looked like me.

Using the movie as a reference, the Hollywood movie industry has been shy of black protagonist for decades until the advent of the ground breaking Black Panther. In case you're having trouble keeping up Black Panther is currently the fourth top grossing movie of all time that just how profitable the potrayal of the black culture in movies could get.



But why can't we get same in video games?




Modern gaming is certainly guilty of playing things too safe. For every Lucio, CJ, Lee Everett or an RPG where you have free reign over skin colour and gender, there are endless white protagonists.
There’s nothing WRONG with this, but try and list any well-known black protagonists, or female black protagonists. We’re in desperate need of projects that not only exude interest and engagement through everything I’ve mentioned, but to create games that wear these qualities on their sleeve, empowering, educating and progressing society in tow.


I remember the first time I played Mass Effect when I was 14, and I looked up to the character David Anderson. He was just this father figure and sort of a mentor to Commander Shepard, and he went against all the stereotypes of a black male in gaming at the time. I feel like he was a great representation of what a black male can be without verging into stereotype territory.

And let me not forget to say he was so damn cool.





I didn't get into the Final Fantasy series until just a few years ago, but I will always remember Final Fantasy VII because of how turned off I was from the game due to Barrett Wallace. He was loud, as the speech text would make him seem. He would curse at people like Cloud when he was mad, and he was also big and muscular. This seriously disappointed me, because it is not uncommon to find black stereotypical characters in Japanese media.


Understanding what makes these things offensive and not playing into stereotypes of black people is something Japanese developers and anime writers need to learn before feeding into it.




Developers also have a problem with making black people the main antagonist or an "evil character" in games. One of the biggest offenders in this regard is Resident Evil 5. Since this game takes place in Africa, you are expecting to see a lot of black people. The problem is, you are playing as Chris Redfield , a white man cry , in the game who is killing a multitude of black people throughout.


This led to controversy and backlash when the game was first shown to the public. I remember being on the playground in school back when I was in Jss3 talking about this to friends, because I was such a big Resident Evil fan and this came as a huge shock.


The same can even be said for Resident Evil 4, which has you killing a bunch of Spanish people as a gruff, white man.






We need developers to start adding more black, playable characters in gaming, be they black males or females. We need more characters like Lincoln Clay and Marcus Holloway because there aren't many, and that is a shame.


seems like u haven't played
assassins creed liberation and assassins creed blackflag (freedom cry) both has Aveline and Adéwalé as black protagonists. wink

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