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|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by afroxyz: 1:46pm On Jul 31, 2018|
You guys are a hypocritical lot. It's your type that wouldn't give a guy a job because he smokes or drinks. Focus on what the person can deliver. Is that not the core. Does using an email tell a lot about my dreams or aspirations? And yes, I would tell him how to do his job since he decided to bring his parochial shit to social media
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by Nobody: 1:46pm On Jul 31, 2018|
LaudableXX:email depicts professionalism and personality. Are you a HR personnel? Don't tell people how to do their jobs when they have been trained on how to do it!
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by LaudableXX: 1:48pm On Jul 31, 2018|
boladez:Oga, wake up and smell the coffee. Only lazy recruiters insist on using a myopic, irrelevant criteria like an e-mail address, to disqualify a potential candidate. It shows the level of their irrationality and thinking. It is not business ethics, it is just a lazy unethical approach to addressing a HR situation.
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by souljaboi51(m): 1:49pm On Jul 31, 2018|
Amen. God bless you too.
See this is one of the problems with all these small Nigerian companies. They think they are gods and they treat people anyhow. I pray the OP gets a job in my organisation or one similar. They will clear your doubt anf if he continues like this, he will lose his job cos he will be reported.
Imagine the OP saying he didnt give a candidate clearance because the person did not acknowledge properly.
Such myopic behaviour.
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by Nobody: 1:51pm On Jul 31, 2018|
afroxyz:the essence of a CV is to get you to the interview stage. There are over a ten of Cvs to review for a position, some get over a thousand. The least you can do is help yourself. This is common sense. Okay, keep debating. Until you understand that some rules don't actually make sense but they need to be followed, you will keep having this mentality of "value". Disclamers are about race, religion, sexual preference, social status, gender, geographical location.. they are never about how you present yourself on your CV. If you present yourself as unprofessional, you are kicked out!!
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by afroxyz: 1:51pm On Jul 31, 2018|
Don't mind all these useless recruiters. They believe that the are doing a favour fir the applicant forgetting that they themselves are employed
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by LaudableXX: 1:54pm On Jul 31, 2018|
thewritingtodo:Using a myopic irrelevant excuse like an e-mail address, to discard potential candidates or disenfranchise applicants, is wrong! Companies like Amazon, Vodacom, and many top firms were able to get the best people for the job, because their HR people looked past such irrelevant stuff, to hire the best candidates to fill their job roles.
You cannot read anybody's character from an e-mail address, sir! The applicant might have been in a humorous mood, when he selected that e-mail address years ago. How can you now use that to discard his application, simply because you are too lazy to scrutinise his CV? Apart from that, a person name appears in the sender's field of an e-mail sent to you, before his e-mail address even shows up in the body of the mail. So what are you talking about?
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by boiz2men(m): 1:54pm On Jul 31, 2018|
Wow.. You seem like the real HR
I got an invite one time and wasn't in town. I replied the mail saying I couldn't make it the following day since I wasn't in town and suggested Skype and gave my phone number if they wanted to do over the phone interview.
I also gave them a time I will be in town. Guess what, they sent me another invite a day to the time I have them... I attended this time and got that job.
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by afroxyz: 1:55pm On Jul 31, 2018|
Helping yourself by using under-handed tactics? If the recruiter is overwelmed by the number of applications he should hire more hands, take more time to peruse or resign from the job. We apply sentiments to a lot of things in this part of the world.
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by souljaboi51(m): 1:55pm On Jul 31, 2018|
You are a recruiter and you are handling 11,000 cvs when there are applications and algorithms imbeded in websites that can narrow it down for u. Lmaooo is this a joke?
Continue giving yourself unecessary headache in the 21st century. Smh
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by souljaboi51(m): 1:59pm On Jul 31, 2018|
Congratulations on the job. This is how HR is practiced!!!
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by Nobody: 2:00pm On Jul 31, 2018|
souljaboi51:you are a HR officer with little comprehension skills. I ll ask, is it better to be underdressed or over dressed.. this is OP point. You are HR personnel without Bias on email address, there is another HR personnel with bias on the issue. As a smart individual which would you do? Simple, put yourself in that position where you clear all Bias. So for you whether I used an unprofessional or professional, you care not. For the other he wants a professional email. Common sense will tell me to always use a professional email. Since it ticks the box for the two of you. This is Op"s point. It's so simple. You don't have to debate it. Key thing is being familiar with the organisation and their expectations.
For the acknowledgement, some companies will ask you to confirm attendance. I want to think this is what OP meant by acknowledgement. We should always see deep into posts before we make our judegements!
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|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by OfficialAPCNig: 2:00pm On Jul 31, 2018|
Avoid Entering The Room First or Last
I don't know how you would do this but it works.
We found out that most of those we interviewed that fell within the 3rd quartile tend to be employed.
In fact we have a documented report to that effect and we worked to correct that.
So for some organisations that doesn't know this yet, you can take advantage.
Recruiters have expectations entering the Hot Room and unfortunately, most times those expectations are high and unreasonable.
The first quartile might suffer for this and as the interview progresses the Recruiter would lower those expectations but would never compromise the basic expectations.
Again, Recruiters are much more alert when interviewing the first set of people. The way you dressed, your hair, the way you speak, anxiety and first interviews tend to be longer than the entire interview average.
As the second and third set starts going in, the alertness might start reducing and expectations would definitely fall. If you can sell yourself at this point, you have the job.
That impression will be on the mind of the Recruiters when the last set starts coming in. You are now the new standard and the later comers would have to beat that. But most times they won't because the Recruiter would be tired and now a bit bias.
Since I started working as a Recruiter for over 6 years, we had only employed 1 late comer.
Before you call me names, our interview panel is made up of at least 3 Recruiters.
We did something silly I still haven't forgiven myself up till now. On our of those occassion when we had gotten our Star Guy, and we still have about 4 outside. We interviewed them without even inviting them.
What I did was to compare their CV with our guy and concluded within ourselves that our guy was better.
We asked them to write their names and we sent them away.
It is purely unprofessional and shits do happen. It was already late and we were not impressed with the other 16 we had interviewed, the 17th guy impressed and the 19-21, didn't impressed, so we sent the last 4 home.
Any Recruiter that tells you he is not a bit off-key does the end of the interview and also biased after seeing a Star guy is not being totally sincere.
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by LaudableXX: 2:03pm On Jul 31, 2018|
You are too correct, my brother. In fact the last multinational that hired me, I was the last candidate to be interviewed and I got the job!
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by souljaboi51(m): 2:04pm On Jul 31, 2018|
You claim i have little comprehension and i dont have to debate with the op yet you are debating with me. Oga pls practice what you preach.
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by LaudableXX: 2:04pm On Jul 31, 2018|
OfficialAPCNig:Look at this pompous joker! Were you not the same person that said you would not accept figures in an e-mail address before, in your previous post? LMAO!
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by Nobody: 2:09pm On Jul 31, 2018|
afroxyz:either you have no work experience or you just want to be funny. Hire more hands?? For who? You?? When there are a thousand and one candidate that have been professional with the right skills and can do the job better than you. Lols.. you see why they say many of you ar unemployable. You are not ready to learn. Who told you its just this part of the world .
Put unprofessional email address in CVS on Google and see results for yourself
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by souljaboi51(m): 2:09pm On Jul 31, 2018|
Honestly im tired of the OP
First or last? Really? If the interviewers are properly trained then it wouldnt matter.
Bias is a serious matter that needs to be addressed when it comes to recruitment. My colleague told me a lady was hired just cos she spoke queens english in one company. Guess what na only english she sabi. She no sabi the work
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by LaudableXX: 2:11pm On Jul 31, 2018|
majekdom2:Don't be silly. And stop arguing blindly. The only thing that should concern a HR person, is the candidate's CV or resume. End of story! Only lazy HR recruiters major in minor inconsequential rubbish, like e-mail addresses. Was he employed to hire e-mails or to hire candidates, like someone asked earlier?
And I keep repeating that the first thing that shows up when you receive an e-mail, is the person's name and not his e-mail address! Do I have to repeat this in your native dialect, for you to get it? Any recruiter that goes hunting for an e-mail address, to disqualify a candidate is just shallow!
Your e-mail address has very little bearing on your ability to do the job!
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by Nobody: 2:12pm On Jul 31, 2018|
LaudableXX:how did you get your UN job? You have zero attention to detail. He said he will not allow figures for email as this lekan18 but will allow for lekanidris18. Go back and read
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by Nobody: 2:14pm On Jul 31, 2018|
souljaboi51:again, low comprehension. I meant do you have to debate on how to deal with bias. Answer my question not with what you preach.
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by Nobody: 2:18pm On Jul 31, 2018|
LaudableXX:what is professionalism? How are you contacted? With name or email. Google this thing and see responses from international recruiters. Op's advice is to be on th safe side. Why the argument really??
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by afroxyz: 2:18pm On Jul 31, 2018|
Employable you say? Of course I'm not employable. How much una fit pay me. I'm already an employer. If there are 1001 people with the right skills and can do the job, then the op should leran from them. As for you digging the trenches in another man's dream, keep learning on how to be a good employee.
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by LaudableXX: 2:18pm On Jul 31, 2018|
majekdom2:I got it by sending them my CV and a cover letter. In fact, I applied directly on their online platform. Anything else?
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by badinfluence: 2:28pm On Jul 31, 2018|
OfficialAPCNig:Your firm is a joke sha..
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by Heemcelph: 2:30pm On Jul 31, 2018|
LaudableXX:Uhm! You get change to spare
Any per time slot for a graduate waiting for NYSC?
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by solelymade: 2:31pm On Jul 31, 2018|
Great brother, you nailed it perfectly. I did not read it all but immediately I have to rush and type this. Absolutely fantastic. Bless you
Please, can you put that on the opening page by editing the post.
Let he who have ear, make him hear.
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by Heemcelph: 2:33pm On Jul 31, 2018|
The Op wasn't given any breathing space, bashing from all angles. I followed everything from page one, read every comment and I must say I've learnt somethings from the op and from responses as well.
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by LaudableXX: 2:35pm On Jul 31, 2018|
Heemcelph:Lol! First, get a skill and some good certifications, preferably in an ICT field. Learn as much as you can, about the career field you wish to specialise in. Then volunteer if possible, on different projects. Add value to yourself, by reading and taking free online courses, or trainings if you can find any. It helps you get prepared, for the future.
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by Heemcelph: 2:37pm On Jul 31, 2018|
LaudableXX:Okay, thanks a lot.
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by solelymade: 2:40pm On Jul 31, 2018|
Not arguing further too. This is where I quit.
|Re: Interview Etiquette 101: My Personal Experience As A Recruiter by OfficialAPCNig: 2:41pm On Jul 31, 2018|
Like I said before, I work for HR Agency, we recruit, train and appraise for top companies.
As a recruiter I handle thousands of applications for each position and it is a standard practice in my organisation to invite only 25 people to the interview for each position.
So how do you eliminate to get the best 25 if you 11,000 applied?
We import into our system and it will start the eliminations.
First, by emails.
Second, by checking if the Subject complied with our adverts. It filters by Keywords.
Just this 2 will reduce that number to 5000-9000. I don't know why our youths keep making this mistakes.
The remaining ones would be forwarded to the Team handling the recruitments.
That is where we start checking cover letters and CVs.
Even dots where it is not supposed to be can disqualify a CV, your state of origin can even disqualify you. That is why it is advisable never to put it your CV unless you are asked, a single page CV are discarded, and a maximum of 4 are discarded for entry positions.
But once you adhere to the standard practices, nobody would reject you.
Personally I love tiny fonts, Verdana 11, this is not a standard practice, so whether you use it or not, but it doesn't matter. But if I see it on a CV I would take a second look at it, but won't do shit if the person doesn't meet the basic requirements.
So what I am saying is that we don't disqualify because we love or hate something, but because we are following an established standard practice.
A situation we couldn't get those 25 without being biased, then we run tests. At this point there is nothing we could do to reduce them because their qualifications are just similar and hard to differentiate.
Sometimes, we send invite for the test at night while the test is tomorrow morning by 8. We use this to disqualify a lot of people.
Those that made it would be tested in areas they won't even imagine.
Sometimes we run an endurance test where we pack them into a room with CCTV and monitor them without attending to them and then conduct a test late in the afternoon.
We might give them a simple task to do and submit or start looking at their Social Media.
But one thing is we must get at most 25 for the interview.
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