Kingosytex:
APC have no regards for the constitution, their 'god' buhari has disobeyed the constitution countless times and nothing happened. if they decide to impeach saraki in the dark, nothing will still happen but the truth here is that saraki still has loyalists in APC so impeaching saraki is gonna be pretty difficult

12Monkeys:


They can not impeach saraki outside the Senate floor and the sitting can only be duly recognised with Ekeramadu present.

Why do you think Ekeramadu was asked to remain at home to be arrested by the police when both the SP and DSP's homes were besieged?

Saraki was very smart by going to the Senate without Ekeramadu as he can not preside over his own impeachment but must step down for his deputy.

When the APC senators noticed Ekeramadu's absence their plot collapsed.

The original plan was to arrest Saraki and force Ekeramadu to the Senate to oversee Saraki's impeachment under threat and blackmail of arrest.

Or have you forgotten why the EFCC finally let him go when they heard Saraki was presiding over the Senate?

Guy, Saraki is playing all of these idiots in APC chess while blindfolded.

12Monkeys:
Prof Itse Sagay has proved with his recent rants that he is either a drunk or a senile old fool or both to assume that a quorum can be held on the floor of the red chambers without any of the principal executive officers of the Senate presiding over the house.


Before a Senate sitting can be legal, the Senate President or his deputy most preside over the house.

All impeached legislative principal officers were removed because either the deputy or the speaker was present.

The APC will need Ekeramadu to preside over their quorum in order to remove Saraki and vice-versa.

Even if they can smuggle Ekeramadu into the house against his will, they will still need Ekeramadu to allow the motion of Saraki's impeachment to go on.

The proceedings can not be done in secrecy or behind a closed session so how will they react if Ekeramadu opposes their motion? At best Ekeramadu can postpone the motion for another day to allow the Senate president to be present for his own impeachment. Will Saraki also be kidnapped to attend his own impeachment?

As I said earlier, impeachment process can not be done behind closed doors and will require an open session with journalist beaming proceedings live.

How then will the APC be able to achieve this without exposing themselves as anti-democratic?

Donjazzy12:
Two of them can be removed in one fell swoop.

FOLYKAZE:


Who is going to preside when there is a motion to impeach both Saraki and his Deputy, Ekweremadu?

12Monkeys:
Prof Itse Sagay has proved with his recent rants that he is either a drunk or a senile old fool or both to assume that a quorum can be held on the floor of the red chambers without any of the principal executive officers of the Senate presiding over the house.


Before a Senate sitting can be legal, the Senate President or his deputy most preside over the house.

All impeached legislative principal officers were removed because either the deputy or the speaker was present.

The APC will need Ekeramadu to preside over their quorum in order to remove Saraki and vice-versa.

Even if they can smuggle Ekeramadu into the house against his will, they will still need Ekeramadu to allow the motion of Saraki's impeachment to go on.

The proceedings can not be done in secrecy or behind a closed session so how will they react if Ekeramadu opposes their motion? At best Ekeramadu can postpone the motion for another day to allow the Senate president to be present for his own impeachment. Will Saraki also be kidnapped to attend his own impeachment?

As I said earlier, impeachment process can not be done behind closed doors and will require an open session with journalist beaming proceedings live.

How then will the APC be able to achieve this without exposing themselves as anti-democratic?

BabaRamota1980:


There is nothing wrong in being anti-democratic for one day to achieve a dire political goal.

When soldiers entered Afaraukwu and snatched Kanu and his clan, was that democratic? But the deed was done amidst international outcry.

Saraki himself knows the power of a sitting government and thats why he is careful and quickly shut down the Senate.

If a chaos can be staged to facilitate robbing the Senate of its symbol of authority, the mace...and nothing happened to those who carried out the undemocratic act, I will not under-estimate when the party says they will get him out.

Nigerians worship doctrines of Western ideologies religiously. If not we should know there is no rule or order constituted as law that is immune to infringement.

Oblang:
So why then was the PDP accusing the APC of wanting to invade the NA to impeach Saraki with the DSS?

12Monkeys:


For that to happen two of them must be present.

Do you think that will happen without PDP and r-APC senators storming the Senate?

Where will the minority APC senators then get the votes?

12Monkeys:
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Democracy can not thrive without the rule of law.

All you wrote up there shows how evil you APC supporters are.

BabaRamota1980:


Democracy itself is an evil system. What are you talking about?

12Monkeys:



Because that was their second desperate attempt at illegality.

Their legal advicer Sagay has come out to defend a forger (Kemi).

They will stop at nothing to push their evil agenda

ba7man:
Withdraw Saraki's security details, freeze his accounts and bundle him forcefully out of the Senate.

Lots of Nigerian politicians still need that treatment.

Donjazzy12:

Show me where that is a requirement of the constitution.

12Monkeys:
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Democracy can not thrive without the rule of law.

All you wrote up there shows how evil you APC supporters are.

12Monkeys:


Yes we know how democracy is anti Islam

Pray tell, will you prefer an Islamic theocracy instead?

buhariguy:
the simple thing to do is to simply remove both of them anyhow, then you go to court to decide whether he was remove by quorum or by majority,
And the case will end till 2023.

Meanwhile, the jobless aggressive lazy idiotic pigs of Biafra terrorist party PDP applaud the removal of Benue presiding officers even when the house was on recess.

BabaRamota1980:


Dude, you are derailing your own thread. I can help you with that.

Stay focused.
Do not under-estimate when the ruling party say they will remove Saraki. There are laws that say they cannot. There are also laws that say you cannot hold a person indefinitely in prison without trial and conviction. This government had continously flouted those laws and the citizens did not rise up. They will flout the law that say they cannot remove Saraki and there is nothing anyone can do after his removal. Nothing! ...as clearly undemocratic as it would be carried out.

PDP messed up in 2014 and left Tambuwal in as Speaker after defection. What APC is getting ready to do is what democracies all over the world do, flout the law and then apologize later.

12Monkeys:
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Saraki is Nigeria's number 3 citizen and the face of the legislative branch.

You think he is hoping on only the masses or courts?

You must be a dreamer.

And what do you think is responsible for the mass defections you are witnessing?

If only you know the backing Saraki has with powerful external forces. Same forces that made your Buhari president are about to remove him.

The people who are in the know are already re-alligning. Even Buhari knows his game is up. It is only the criminals in his cabinet that are desperate in not getting served the same dose of their vindictive govt that are running about telling Buhari that they will deliver elections for him.

Do you hear Amaechi talking again?

Tinubu and Oshiomole know they are going to jail when Saraki emerges president.

Even northerners in Buhari's camp who stepped on Saraki's toes know they can negotiate a settlement with an Amir to beg saraki.

Who will beg for Oshiomole and Tinubu?

Guy, you are a spectator in a very complex game of 5-D chess. I suggest you sit down and learn a thing or two.

mukhcech:


And you are the referee abi.

12Monkeys:


The court can easily declare their removal an illegality.

That means you failed in the democratic coup and then a legal coup.

What next?

Just give up, the more fixated you are in removing Saraki the more people begin to align with his woes and they will ask why is he being persecuted.

Have you not failed enough?

12Monkeys:


Can the Senate be in plenary without any of her principal officers?

It is only under a plenary session presided by one or both of the principal officers that a motion of impeachment can be moved.

Don't be an ignoramus.

Donjazzy12:

If both Senate President and Deputy are not available Nko? Does that mean that the Senate will never seat?

12Monkeys:


Nah you go go open Senate abi

Donjazzy12:

The Senate Leader can preside.

12Monkeys:


What is Senate leader?

Stop showcasing ignorance.

There are Senate minority or majority leaders and their positions are not constitutionally recognised.